Help me plan my Eastern Euro fuck fest!

[jkrieg]

Ok lads, post covid I am planning a bit of a punting marathon while driving through central/eastern europe.

I'll be starting off in Amsterdam, heading over Belgium way, south to Prague->Vienna->Bratislava->Budapest... I'll consider the drive out to Bucharest depending on how I'm doing for time... Then back towards Italy (undecided on which cities) before going north again through Switzerland->Paris->Belgium then getting the ferry home. I may explore a bit of southern France... but typically I find the French a bit... well... French!

The trip isn't set in stone but that gives you a rough idea of the route. I'll be doing it over the span of a few months too, so I'll have plenty time to explore the "local delicacies".

What I'm looking for is advice on any key hotspots that you think I should be looking for based on your experiences in any of these areas.

The 2 big ones I have on my list at the moment are Artemis in Berlin and I remember reading about similar saunas in Prague which I'd be looking to give a bash.

It doesn't have to be saunas or window girls etc... If a place has an easy way to find freelancers working out of flats like here, then I'm game for that too.

Hopefully this isn't too generalised. I know a lot of this will be information thats available by looking into each area individually. But I'm sure some of you out there have some expert punting knowledge that will help me plan this trip out!

[jkrieg]

Just spotted a mistake that I can no longer fix. When I said I'll be heading over Belgium way I meant Berlin.

[Malvolio]

Switzerland is expensive, but if you're doing a punting trip over several months I'm assuming funds aren't a problem for you.

In which case, you should call into FKK Globe in Zurich - here is a link to my review from a couple of years ago.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=251027.0

[jkrieg]

Switzerland is expensive, but if you're doing a punting trip over several months I'm assuming funds aren't a problem for you.

In which case, you should call into FKK Globe in Zurich - here is a link to my review from a couple of years ago.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=251027.0

Thanks for the input, I'll definitely give that a look.

I'm by no means rich, It will be a combination of hostels and airbnb to keep the cost down, but yeah a fair whack will end up going on punting!

[Auldbugger]

A man after my own heart. Would like to do a similar post-COVID tour but I would travel by train and go as far as Kiev and return via Southern Europe. Just need the green light from the government.

[KeenPunter]

You'll have to plan a few 2 week quarantine breaks along the way, some of these countries have high rates at the moment and if you've visited them you can't enter other countries, or if you do you have to quarantine, these rules are of course very fluid at the moment.  For example if you've been to Praque you're not getting back into Germany in a hurry.  You'll also need to factor in lots of PCR tests along the way.

I hope though that it comes off

[vindici]

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If you're looking for EE punts at decent rates, you'd be better of flying to Prague, then onwards to Budapest, Warsaw/Krakow, Kiev and finishing in Moscow.

Punting in those places is cheap, readily accessible and good value for money.

[jkrieg]

If you're looking for EE punts at decent rates, you'd be better of flying to Prague, then onwards to Budapest, Warsaw/Krakow, Kiev and finishing in Moscow.

Punting in those places is cheap, readily accessible and good value for money.

Aye this is more because I'm driving it anyway so will punt along the way. The trip isn't solely for punting otherwise I'd be inclined to fly like you say.

[jkrieg]

You'll have to plan a few 2 week quarantine breaks along the way, some of these countries have high rates at the moment and if you've visited them you can't enter other countries, or if you do you have to quarantine, these rules are of course very fluid at the moment.  For example if you've been to Praque you're not getting back into Germany in a hurry.  You'll also need to factor in lots of PCR tests along the way.

I hope though that it comes off

Aye I'll not be able to do this trip while covid is kicking about. I wouldn't want to either since what's the point in travelling to places where everything is closed.

[KeenPunter]

Aye I'll not be able to do this trip while covid is kicking about. I wouldn't want to either since what's the point in travelling to places where everything is closed.

It depends, I had a business trip to Turkey last summer and went to see some of the sights with a US colleague.  We went to Efes and there were only 10 people there, he's never seen it with less than 2000 so we got a unique experience.  Same trip we went to some of the resorts where you normally get loads of UK tourists, nobody to speak to at all of course.  The weird thing was that no prices had been adapted to the lack of demand, touts trying to get you to go paragliding, boat trips etc but no discount at all.  I imagine this is the same with WGs.

I work alot in Turkey but haven't managed to suss out the scene.  It has a young population, there's hot women in their 20's everywhere and advertising all over Instagram and Twitter but I can't figure out what's risky or genuine and there's little on the forum to help compared to other places.

[petermisc]

Ok lads, post covid I am planning a bit of a punting marathon while driving through central/eastern europe.
I'll be starting off in Amsterdam, heading over Belgium way, south to Prague->Vienna->Bratislava->Budapest... I'll consider the drive out to Bucharest depending on how I'm doing for time...

It is quite awhile now since I went to Bucharest, but unless things have changed dramatically I honestly wouldn't bother.  The place is a dump, nothing worth seeing really, perhaps the most tourist unfriendly city I have visited, and the girls have all the enthusiasm of, well, Romanians.

Prague is still a good place to punt, as well as being well worth visiting.  Vienna is also worth visiting on both counts.  Budapest is also worth visiting, but the punting scene nowhere near as good.  Avoid the tourist rip-off joints, particularly in Budapest.

[jkrieg]

It is quite awhile now since I went to Bucharest, but unless things have changed dramatically I honestly wouldn't bother.  The place is a dump, nothing worth seeing really, perhaps the most tourist unfriendly city I have visited, and the girls have all the enthusiasm of, well, Romanians.

Prague is still a good place to punt, as well as being well worth visiting.  Vienna is also worth visiting on both counts.  Budapest is also worth visiting, but the punting scene nowhere near as good.  Avoid the tourist rip-off joints, particularly in Budapest.

Thanks. The only way I was going to Bucharest is if you guys told me it was some sort of punting heaven since it would add a fair amount to the journey... Looks like I'll just give it a miss!

Thanks for the input though, Prague does sound pretty good from what I have read so far.

[alabama1]

I punted in Prague in 2019. Spent 4 days there. Had one massage/he, and 2 independent girls (separately) back to my apartment. Can't remember the local site i booked them through. Worked out cheaper than the UK for 1 hour, both top quality girls too !

[Pikston]

Bucharest is definitely a no for me. Romania is great in the transylvania region and carpathian mountains, you can find some decent punts on forums but it's not as accessible as you might think. Unless you're happy with truck stop pick ups.

My tips would be to search laufhaus as you go through Germany and Austria. A bit like window girls but all in one building. They're the easiest for quick punts on your way through.

For a longer session, if definitely recommend Wellcum club in Austria (close to Italian border).

I got myself a room in the attached hotel, arrived at opening and got through 7 girls in the day (one threesome so 6 rounds).

Expensive but it really was a day to remember!

[Pikston]

Also I'd give bratislava a miss. Eastern European cities do get pretty generic after a while, and that has neither the sights or the punting. Maybe stop for a day, but you're better off in Vienna for both tourism and punting.

Also, south of Slovenia is amazing for scenery but pretty dry for punting, so if you do decide to head down there, get your fill in Austria first (I once drove from halfway down Croatia, through Slovenia and into Austria for a punt and a McDonald's, then all the way back to Croatia to my hotel in Zagreb).

[Pikston]

One more from me, in Austria and Switzerland, the better girls and clubs tend to be close to the Italian borders to cater for northern Italians who drove over for the night.

Further north, I found the better places were in Germany although short map distances can take a very long time to cover due to mountains, so don't be tempted to go for the first place you see as the Crow flies.

La Rose in Schwaz was a particular one that stood out for me from memory and had great scenery if you pass that way

[basquebrumie]

If you can travel further east then Kiev is good, lots of enthusiastic free lancers at cheap prices and often hot so long as you take time and don’t book when you have your cock in your hand. I noted you mostly staying in Airbnb’s and hostels but hotels there don’t care if you bring a prossy back although they might have to show ID it is neither a big deal to reception or the girl. Hell, I once had the girl on reception ask me if I wanted her to book a girl for me.

Bratislavia tends to be for stag so scene so decent for a cheap pump and dump but that’s all. To be fair, the girls have to deal with pissed up young brits abroad so no wonder they hate us.

No real idea about “organised” scene but ex Yugoslavia countries (Bosnia,Serbia etc), I am fairly youngish and used tinder. It’s more a sugar baby scene when you get to negotiating so to speak.

Well those were my experiences anyway. Plenty more experienced punters.

[mradventures]

i really liked being in the mountains in france, and lyon but its worth pointing out france is basically shit for punting, as is italy.
I think theres some medival semi venice like town not far from lyon thats a nice to visit too (ive not been, but travel video's recommended it)
if your driving it might be better to stay outside the cities and get a transport link in.

[jkrieg]

i really liked being in the mountains in france, and lyon but its worth pointing out france is basically shit for punting, as is italy.
I think theres some medival semi venice like town not far from lyon thats a nice to visit too (ive not been, but travel video's recommended it)
if your driving it might be better to stay outside the cities and get a transport link in.

I'll be going by motorbike, so driving in cities will be a bit easier than by car.

[jkrieg]

Thanks for the input guys. All useful stuff!

[Pikston]

Might want to look at doxyspotting for Italy, it's basically a google streetview of streetwalkers. Italy and Bulgaria in particular seem to have a very high number so guess that could be an option (I've done a run to the Swiss or Austrian border whenever in Italy so can't advise any further)

[jkrieg]

Might want to look at doxyspotting for Italy, it's basically a google streetview of streetwalkers. Italy and Bulgaria in particular seem to have a very high number so guess that could be an option (I've done a run to the Swiss or Austrian border whenever in Italy so can't advise any further)

Wow I had no idea something like that existed!. Streetwalkers always seemed a bit sketchy to me but I suppose it would be a good way to get a cheap fuck.

[vindici]

It could be good to develop some local contacts before you go.

I have a guy in Poland, Kiev and Moscow.

If I want an indie punt that doesn't use WhatsApp/etc, they make all the calls for me and negotiate the local language.

Invaluable help!

[Greenchilli]

Streetwalkers always seemed a bit sketchy to me but I suppose it would be a good way to get a cheap fuck.

I would highly recommend that you stay clear from streetwalkers as the health care system in East and central european countries especially Ukraine and Russia suppress the real outbreak and number of people with STIs . Dont risk your health for price difference of 20-30 $ 

[jkrieg]

I would highly recommend that you stay clear from streetwalkers as the health care system in East and central european countries especially Ukraine and Russia suppress the real outbreak and number of people with STIs . Dont risk your health for price difference of 20-30 $ 

Aye thats what I suspected 

[HS4000Kestral]

Bit similar to what I have planned - but am going via rail - you can now do inter-rail whatever your age - and you can select x days in a month.

My route is:

Cardiff-London-Ostend-Amsterdam-Hamburg-Zurich-Milan-Marsailles-Barcelona-Paris-London-Cardiff

10 travel days is £365 plus then accommodation on top although one or two maybe overnight trains anyway.

[mradventures]

theres a really nice canal area in milan, and plenty of gelato places , i stayed at a hotel that was decent, was a refurbished nunnary or religious building, reasonable rates.

fort/castle thing is impressive too. think you can see all the major tourist bits in a day or day and abit

[jkrieg]

theres a really nice canal area in milan, and plenty of gelato places , i stayed at a hotel that was decent, was a refurbished nunnary or religious building, reasonable rates.

fort/castle thing is impressive too. think you can see all the major tourist bits in a day or day and abit

Aye a stop off in milan will be likely. Hoping lockdown fucks off so I can crack on with this trip ASAP

[MilleMiglia]

Also I'd give bratislava a miss. Eastern European cities do get pretty generic after a while, and that has neither the sights or the punting. Maybe stop for a day, but you're better off in Vienna for both tourism and punting.

Also, south of Slovenia is amazing for scenery but pretty dry for punting, so if you do decide to head down there, get your fill in Austria first (I once drove from halfway down Croatia, through Slovenia and into Austria for a punt and a McDonald's, then all the way back to Croatia to my hotel in Zagreb).

The advice I got from a Slovakian Ski Bunny was to stay in Vienna, and do Bratislava as a day trip.

[DaVINCI]

If going to Prague, Showpark Market is a must, hopefully Post Covid it opens back up as there was an ongoing dispute with the Local Government.

I'd recommend FKK Sharks, Darmstadt not far from Frankfurt, especially if going at the weekend. About 100 Nude WG walking about the club, a sight to behold. One of my best punting experiences.

[jkrieg]

Aye I'm not sure if I'll be heading back up through Germany or France yet, but sharks is definitely on the list of I end up going through Frankfurt!

How does it compare to Artemis in Berlin?

[DaVINCI]

Aye I'm not sure if I'll be heading back up through Germany or France yet, but sharks is definitely on the list of I end up going through Frankfurt!

How does it compare to Artemis in Berlin?

Not been into Artemis but been in the area  from what I have read it is more expensive than Sharks.

Artemis was €80 entrance with €80 per pop, sure it has went up €10 on each cost  Sharks was €65 entrance plus €50 per pop, Good food, Sun Loungers, Pool, Sauna, what a place 

[jkrieg]

Not been into Artemis but been in the area  from what I have read it is more expensive than Sharks.

Artemis was €80 entrance with €80 per pop, sure it has went up €10 on each cost  Sharks was €65 entrance plus €50 per pop, Good food, Sun Loungers, Pool, Sauna, what a place 

Thats quite some difference... I think this might have made my mind up on Frankfurt!

I have been to Frankfurt before but was with the OH and couldn't sneak away for any "extra curricular" activities. Lovely city though.

[jkrieg]

Looking at this I think I may have got the title wrong. It's more of a Central Europe Fuck fest!

I can see me doing Eastern Europe at some point though, once I have this one ticked off the list!.

[pusfunman]

Aye I'm not sure if I'll be heading back up through Germany or France yet, but sharks is definitely on the list of I end up going through Frankfurt!

How does it compare to Artemis in Berlin?

I like both Artemis and Sharks. They are a bit different and as stated in this thread Artemis is more expensive. The difference for me is more just the feel of the 2 places - Sharks is much more of a big open space warehouse where as Artemis is maybe a bit more cosy I guess. As you will read in many threads here and in other places, there are definitely more plastic girls at Artemis.

Overall my own preference is for Artemis, and that is probably going against the grain. I prefer the atmosphere in Artemis and also prefer Berlin as a city. In the past I have done trips to Berlin with a short hop over to Frankfurt for a night or two to get the best of both.

For me I am wanting to try Oase as I have never been.

Also good to see someone else is thinking along the same lines as me and having a damn good mongering period once all this is over. Lord knows I've sure got the funds for it having worked through all this with little needing money spent on it. Its going to be mongering unhooked at the end of it all

[The Night King]

Austrian clubs apparently reopening May 19 : External Link/Members Only 

UK Government will supposedly announce which countries are Red / Green / Amber on May 17  but not sure Austria will be allowed based on current stats 

[jkrieg]

Austrian clubs apparently reopening May 19 : External Link/Members Only 

UK Government will supposedly announce which countries are Red / Green / Amber on May 17  but not sure Austria will be allowed based on current stats 

Good stuff. I'm getting more an more hopeful that I'll be able to get away for around August assuming Europe can get the finger out with the vaccine.

[jkrieg]

I like both Artemis and Sharks. They are a bit different and as stated in this thread Artemis is more expensive. The difference for me is more just the feel of the 2 places - Sharks is much more of a big open space warehouse where as Artemis is maybe a bit more cosy I guess. As you will read in many threads here and in other places, there are definitely more plastic girls at Artemis.

Overall my own preference is for Artemis, and that is probably going against the grain. I prefer the atmosphere in Artemis and also prefer Berlin as a city. In the past I have done trips to Berlin with a short hop over to Frankfurt for a night or two to get the best of both.

For me I am wanting to try Oase as I have never been.

Also good to see someone else is thinking along the same lines as me and having a damn good mongering period once all this is over. Lord knows I've sure got the funds for it having worked through all this with little needing money spent on it. Its going to be mongering unhooked at the end of it all

Looks like I'll just have to try both!. I didn't realise Artemis was 90 euro a pop now too though!. I was planning to do 3-4 girls in the one day, but I think Ill chop that back to 2 and fit more in at Sharks.

I guess just relaxing at one of these places and enjoying the "views" is part of the experience! 

[pantywetter]

One more from me, in Austria and Switzerland, the better girls and clubs tend to be close to the Italian borders to cater for northern Italians who drove over for the night.

Further north, I found the better places were in Germany although short map distances can take a very long time to cover due to mountains, so don't be tempted to go for the first place you see as the Crow flies.

La Rose in Schwaz was a particular one that stood out for me from memory and had great scenery if you pass that way

Do you have any other clubs to check out in this region?  I travel there a lot but didn’t realise there were any options.

[Malvolio]

Reading this article has made me consider Austria as a punting destination.

External Link/Members Only

[pusfunman]

Looks like I'll just have to try both!. I didn't realise Artemis was 90 euro a pop now too though!. I was planning to do 3-4 girls in the one day, but I think Ill chop that back to 2 and fit more in at Sharks.

I guess just relaxing at one of these places and enjoying the "views" is part of the experience! 

I did hear that entry and standard 30 min service went up at Artemis when it was briefly open in autumn last year, but I hadn't heard €90 per half hour. I certainly hope that isn't true... Last I was there tail end of 2019 it was €80 entry and €60 half hour.

On a potentially related note, as a fairly regular attendee at Artmis I'd say that I'd noticed the girls' behaviour improving in the last year or so before COVID. I think management had gotten wind of a lot of the negative talk online.

[jkrieg]

I did hear that entry and standard 30 min service went up at Artemis when it was briefly open in autumn last year, but I hadn't heard €90 per half hour. I certainly hope that isn't true... Last I was there tail end of 2019 it was €80 entry and €60 half hour.

On a potentially related note, as a fairly regular attendee at Artmis I'd say that I'd noticed the girls' behaviour improving in the last year or so before COVID. I think management had gotten wind of a lot of the negative talk online.

Aye I thought it was €60 for the HH too.. I'm sure I read the entry went up to €90 though. €60 for HH is a hell of a lot more reasonable if thats still the case.

[petermisc]

I did hear that entry and standard 30 min service went up at Artemis when it was briefly open in autumn last year, but I hadn't heard €90 per half hour. I certainly hope that isn't true... Last I was there tail end of 2019 it was €80 entry and €60 half hour.

Those prices don't sound much of a bargain if you only want or can only manage one pop.

[jkrieg]

Those prices don't sound much of a bargain if you only want or can only manage one pop.

Well aye but I'd be making a day of it and using the spa/food. I'd want to get at least 2-3 pops in etc...

[DrGFreeman]

over the years ive punted over quite a bit of europe :
germany / poland / czechia / hungary / estonia / latvia
my view remains you get more for your money staying in germany where prices are reasonable and you are less likey to get ripped off
that really eastern europe at the end of the day isnt any cheaper

I like to go to an interesting city where there is also punting
so I do get the attraction of the adventure of driving round
but everyone thinks it will be cheap, 20 years ago yes not now

[pusfunman]

Well aye but I'd be making a day of it and using the spa/food. I'd want to get at least 2-3 pops in etc...

I generally visit Germany for 3 or 4 nights and make 3 FKK evening trips. To me it is disposable income and if it's €10 extra entry and €10 extra per half hour then I am not too fussed. There is of course a limit. Over 3 nights I'd generally have 3 or 4 pops a night, sometimes 2. I'd say I am generally there from around 7 to 2 or 3 in the morning. As it's something I do maybe 3 times a year it is worth it, ah the memories. It's a pretty unique experience and only a 2 hour or so plane journey away.

I'd say the food is certainly not what you see on the website/promo videos. It's hit and miss, but definitely not an amazing banquet. Fuel for the fucking in my view.

[vindici]

over the years ive punted over quite a bit of europe :
germany / poland / czechia / hungary / estonia / latvia
my view remains you get more for your money staying in germany where prices are reasonable and you are less likey to get ripped off
that really eastern europe at the end of the day isnt any cheaper

Estonia & Latvia are a joke.

Hungary is as expensive if not more than Germany.

However I notice that Ukraine & Russia are absent from your list. Pricing wise it's considerably cheaper than Germany and my experience has been generally good in terms of getting what you pay for (Ukraine, I've not managed Russia yet, but will as soon as the border is open again).

[DrGFreeman]

Estonia & Latvia are a joke.
Hungary is as expensive if not more than Germany.
However I notice that Ukraine & Russia are absent from your list. Pricing wise it's considerably cheaper than Germany and my experience has been generally good in terms of getting what you pay for (Ukraine, I've not managed Russia yet, but will as soon as the border is open again).

my baltic trip was 10 years ago, it was ok, ethnic russian girls, I would not recommend it for a punting trip
hungary I also found didnt have much of a scene like prague, the hotel receiptist had a photo album under the desk and made a few calls for me, I dont remember how much i paid, budapest is a cool city to visit

I do like the idea of Ukraine
I always thought russia would be more expensive ?

[vindici]

...hungary I also found didnt have much of a scene like prague, the hotel receiptist had a photo album under the desk and made a few calls for me, I dont remember how much i paid...

I always thought russia would be more expensive ?

Russia is cheap as chips, and they also have a UKP style forum for discussing the scene. Language barrier will however be a problem for the less experienced, more faint hearted types.

Pricing in Ukraine is higher than in Russia, often due to the extras i.e. OWO, 69 (yes this is often charged extra) Kissing, Anal etc.

Hungary and especially Budapest has a vibrant punting scene, just check the threads here for some links and you'll finds hundreds of profiles to hotlist.

[DrGFreeman]

Russia is cheap as chips, and they also have a UKP style forum for discussing the scene. Language barrier will however be a problem for the less experienced, more faint hearted types.
Pricing in Ukraine is higher than in Russia, often due to the extras i.e. OWO, 69 (yes this is often charged extra) Kissing, Anal etc.
Hungary and especially Budapest has a vibrant punting scene, just check the threads here for some links and you'll finds hundreds of profiles to hotlist.

(at the risk of repeating myself)
id be interested on your view on cost
its exciting to travel to explore a new city and fuck some locals to complete the experience
but is it really cheaper when factoring in travel costs ?
lots of posters on here seem think eastern europe = cheaper shagging, not sure thats true