Author Topic: New £50 note. (Read 2636 times)

Jimmyredcab · « **on:** March 25, 2021, 11:20:52 am »

The new £50 note will enter circulation on 23rd June, the old design will still be legal tender for the time being, old notes can always be exchanged at The Bank of England but you have to show a couple of forms of ID.

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Ghost89 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2021, 11:24:10 am »

A £50 note?! What’s one of those??

Jimmy83 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2021, 11:31:47 am »

Wish they released a £60 note. Would make it easier for those half an hour bookings.

Markus · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2021, 11:33:05 am »

I'm glad he got the recognition he finally deserves and is immortalized on our highest denomination banknote. Appalling it took until 2009 for this country to issue an apology for the treatment he received.

If only Apple would admit that the bite out of the apple in their logo is a nod to Turing who had one at his bedside when they found him.

Great looking note.

lostandfound · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2021, 11:43:00 am »

Still working my way through a stash of £50s I got to take with me to Thailand a couple of years ago. No punting for the last year hasn't helped, as that's about all I use cash for.

Jimmyredcab · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2021, 11:53:03 am »

Quote from: lostandfound on March 25, 2021, 11:43:00 am

Still working my way through a stash of £50s I got to take with me to Thailand a couple of years ago. No punting for the last year hasn't helped, as that's about all I use cash for.

Yes, I take them to Thailand, you get a slightly higher rate for fifties, they must be pristine though, no writing on them.

Xtro · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2021, 12:01:22 pm »

Quote from: Jimmy83 on March 25, 2021, 11:31:47 am

Wish they released a £60 note. Would make it easier for those half an hour bookings.

I like your thinking.

winkywanky · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2021, 12:29:10 pm »

Quote from: Markus on March 25, 2021, 11:33:05 am

I'm glad he got the recognition he finally deserves and is immortalized on our highest denomination banknote. Appalling it took until 2009 for this country to issue an apology for the treatment he received.

If only Apple would admit that the bite out of the apple in their logo is a nod to Turing who had one at his bedside when they found him.

Great looking note.

Wow, didn't know that, interesting

David1970 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2021, 12:38:55 pm »

Alan Turing was a great man, deserves all the recognition he gets, it’s a national shame the way he was treated.

DrGFreeman · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2021, 01:31:22 pm »

Quote from: Markus on March 25, 2021, 11:33:05 am

I'm glad he got the recognition he finally deserves and is immortalized on our highest denomination banknote. Appalling it took until 2009 for this country to issue an apology for the treatment he received.
If only Apple would admit that the bite out of the apple in their logo is a nod to Turing who had one at his bedside when they found him. ..

thought that was interesting so looked it up - urban myth sadly
the apple is a nod to Newton, but the bite is for scale according to the designer

winkywanky · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2021, 01:34:27 pm »

Quote from: DrGFreeman on March 25, 2021, 01:31:22 pm

thought that was interesting so looked it up - urban myth sadly
the apple is a nod to Newton, but the bite is for scale according to the designer

Seems a bit weird, why would something as obvious as an apple logo need a bite to show you how big it was?

Xtro · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2021, 01:54:19 pm »

Quote from: winkywanky on March 25, 2021, 01:34:27 pm

Seems a bit weird, why would something as obvious as an apple logo need a bite to show you how big it was?

Maybe they hoped they could get away with copying The Beatles record label logo by changing it slightly.......
......Hence the byte! (See what I did there?)

PunterNumber69 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2021, 01:55:45 pm »

Quote from: Markus on March 25, 2021, 11:33:05 am

I'm glad he got the recognition he finally deserves and is immortalized on our highest denomination banknote. Appalling it took until 2009 for this country to issue an apology for the treatment he received.

If only Apple would admit that the bite out of the apple in their logo is a nod to Turing who had one at his bedside when they found him.

Great looking note.

He was treated so badly.

I'm glad to see that he is finally getting the recognition he deserves.

Jimmyredcab · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2021, 01:57:36 pm »

Quote from: David1970 on March 25, 2021, 12:38:55 pm

Alan Turing was a great man, deserves all the recognition he gets, it’s a national shame the way he was treated.

Yes, a great man for sure, but let's not forget that it was a crime to be homosexual up until 1967, you are a believer that laws should be obeyed no matter how unjust they are.

winkywanky · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2021, 02:34:51 pm »

Quote from: Xtro on March 25, 2021, 01:54:19 pm

Maybe they hoped they could get away with copying The Beatles record label logo by changing it slightly.......
......Hence the byte! (See what I did there?)

Wouldn't surprise me if the Beatles' Apple was subliminally in play there Xtro.

catweazle · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2021, 02:45:13 pm »

Quote from: DrGFreeman on March 25, 2021, 01:31:22 pm

thought that was interesting so looked it up - urban myth sadly
the apple is a nod to Newton, but the bite is for scale according to the designer

Steve Jobs was asked about this, and he said "No, it's not a tribute to Turing, but we wish it had been".

Bonker · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2021, 04:21:53 pm »

Quote from: Jimmy83 on March 25, 2021, 11:31:47 am

Wish they released a £60 note. Would make it easier for those half an hour bookings.

Wish they would release a £1 note that paid for an hour

Blackpool Rock · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2021, 08:05:32 pm »

Thought the film about him "The imitation game" was good, no doubt he was a difficult person to get along with but very often people with his sort of intelligence operate on a totally different level which makes normal human interaction with them hard.

A genius who shortened the war and saved countless lives was rewarded with chemical castration to avoid a prison sentence.
Yes it was against the law at the time but let's be honest here how many other rich high ranking members of society; politicians; royalty etc were doing the same thing or even worse with children but the authorities turned a blind eye

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DrGFreeman · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2021, 10:01:03 pm »

Quote from: winkywanky on March 25, 2021, 01:34:27 pm

Seems a bit weird, why would something as obvious as an apple logo need a bite to show you how big it was?

Cos the size of the bite (from a human mouth) gives you scale, so you know fruit is not a tomato or a cherry, apparently

Xtro · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2021, 10:23:22 pm »

Quote from: DrGFreeman on March 25, 2021, 10:01:03 pm

Cos the size of the bite (from a human mouth) gives you scale, so you know fruit is not a tomato or a cherry, apparently

Funny you should say that..... There's a new tech company just started up calling themselves Tomato.
It's reported that initially, their computers will be a little bit behind the current offerings from Apple and Microsoft but it won't take them long to ketchup!

smiths · « **Reply #20 on:** March 26, 2021, 01:12:02 am »

Quote from: Blackpool Rock on March 25, 2021, 08:05:32 pm

Thought the film about him "The imitation game" was good, no doubt he was a difficult person to get along with but very often people with his sort of intelligence operate on a totally different level which makes normal human interaction with them hard.

A genius who shortened the war and saved countless lives was rewarded with chemical castration to avoid a prison sentence.
Yes it was against the law at the time but let's be honest here how many other rich high ranking members of society; politicians; royalty etc were doing the same thing or even worse with children but the authorities turned a blind eye

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Indeed, Turing was a great Briton in my book, a hero who the state hounded due to views that were totally outdated and unjust. It took people like Roy Jenkins to reform social issues and bring this country into the 20th century. Some called it the permissive society at the time, I see it as very late just human rights given to millions of people. Allowed to be what they were, Turing was racked with guilt and embarrassment at being gay.

It is NOT the states business if a person is gay or not, fortunately many of us have moved on and accept if someone is gay that's their right and business. Personally the more men who are gay the better as that gives me more of a chance with women.

tesla · « **Reply #21 on:** March 26, 2021, 05:39:31 am »

Quote from: smiths on March 26, 2021, 01:12:02 am

Indeed, Turing was a great Briton in my book, a hero who the state hounded due to views that were totally outdated and unjust. It took people like Roy Jenkins to reform social issues and bring this country into the 20th century. Some called it the permissive society at the time, I see it as very late just human rights given to millions of people. Allowed to be what they were, Turing was racked with guilt and embarrassment at being gay.

It is NOT the states business if a person is gay or not, fortunately many of us have moved on and accept if someone is gay that's their right and business. Personally the more men who are gay the better as that gives me more of a chance with women.

Roy Jenkins was also a Bletchley Park codebreaker, though doubtful he ever met Turing there

WASA38 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 26, 2021, 09:53:04 am »

The note's design features GCHQ's hardest ever puzzle. ( See External Link/Members Only)

Anyone up to solving it ? According to The Times's article it's quite a challenge. Don't think I'll even try.

winkywanky · « **Reply #23 on:** March 26, 2021, 11:16:01 am »

Quote from: tesla on March 26, 2021, 05:39:31 am

Roy Jenkins was also a Bletchley Park codebreaker, though doubtful he ever met Turing there

I heard he got the sack, apparently this is one of his translations: Opewation Bawbawossa into Wussia, more gwenades urgently wequired

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Bertiebeenthere · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:47:26 am »

Quote from: tesla on March 26, 2021, 05:39:31 am

Roy Jenkins was also a Bletchley Park codebreaker, though doubtful he ever met Turing there

Also there were rumours about his sexuality,

BBT

Chorley · « **Reply #25 on:** April 02, 2021, 11:06:41 am »

Alan Turing was a genius and a visionary. He was apparently a difficult individual to be around- there has been speculation he had Asperger's Syndrome-

This is touched on several times in The Imitation Game. The scene at his boarding school where he divides his food-meat, potatoes, carrots into sections which do not touch. L

Later when being interviewed by Charles Dance's character, who remarks that Turing doesn't understand humour and is overly serious.

The fact that he is aloof, incredibly blunt and tactless towards colleagues.

When his colleague states that "Everyone is going for lunch" which is ignored. It's only when said colleague explicitly asks whether he would like to come to lunch that the penny drops, but even then, because he is so engrossed in his work-a trait of Autism /Asperger's- he dismissively says he has more important things to do and asks for some soup to be brought back without any sense of irony.

Bertiebeenthere · « **Reply #26 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:40:23 pm »

Quote from: Chorley on April 02, 2021, 11:06:41 am

Alan Turing was a genius and a visionary. He was apparently a difficult individual to be around- there has been speculation he had Asperger's Syndrome-

Of course he was on the spectrum, as was Leonardo da Vinci, Isaac Newton et al.

PunterNumber69 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 03, 2021, 02:42:55 am »

Quote from: Bertiebeenthere on April 02, 2021, 10:40:23 pm

Of course he was on the spectrum, as was Leonardo da Vinci, Isaac Newton et al.

We could all do with being more understanding of people on the spectrum. They have a lot to contribute. We just need to give them the chance.

Some people have said that I sometimes exhibit traits of autism, so I decided to learn more about the subject to understand and be better with autistic people and try to figure out if I have autism myself. I started by watching all the seasons of ATypical on Netflix and the Temple Grandin movie (she is a wonderful spokesperson for autistic people), reading lots of books on the subject and watching YouTube channels such as Purple Ella. My employer has also started recruiting some autistic people as some of them have unique skills that are ideal for the kind of work we do. Through my employer I volunteered to attend some diversity training which included meeting several autistic people and hearing from them about the challenges they have faced in the workplace and how autism affected each of them in different ways. It was pretty shocking to hear some of the things they have gone through and how they have left jobs because of discrimination. What I learned is that every autistic person is unique just like neurotypical people and autism affects them all differently. As a society we can make the lives of autistic people a little easier by making tweaks in how we do things to make the workplace a less stressful environment for them.

I was watching a documentary about Greta Thunberg (she has autism) a couple of months ago and it featured a clip where a journalist asked her about her suffering from autism. Greta handled the question very well and said yes she had autism, but she didn't agree that she suffered from it. Greta seems very aware of how autism affects her and is very open about it and the positive and negative things it gives her. Greta is another great spokesperson for autistic people.

As they say in the Temple Grandin movie, autistic people are different, but not less. We should give them a chance, be less judging and a bit more understanding. Without autistic people we'd be missing many great discoveries and inventions.

tesla · « **Reply #28 on:** April 03, 2021, 06:46:06 am »

Quote from: Chorley on April 02, 2021, 11:06:41 am

Alan Turing was a genius and a visionary. He was apparently a difficult individual to be around- there has been speculation he had Asperger's Syndrome-

This is touched on several times in The Imitation Game. The scene at his boarding school where he divides his food-meat, potatoes, carrots into sections which do not touch. L

Later when being interviewed by Charles Dance's character, who remarks that Turing doesn't understand humour and is overly serious.

The fact that he is aloof, incredibly blunt and tactless towards colleagues.

When his colleague states that "Everyone is going for lunch" which is ignored. It's only when said colleague explicitly asks whether he would like to come to lunch that the penny drops, but even then, because he is so engrossed in his work-a trait of Autism /Asperger's- he dismissively says he has more important things to do and asks for some soup to be brought back without any sense of irony.

you do realise the Imitation Game film was a work of fiction based loosely on truth, if you want to learn about Turing read the Hodges biography or the one written by his Nephew Dermot Turing or visit Bletchley Park on veterans reunion day and talk to some people who actually knew him

advent2016 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 03, 2021, 10:03:18 am »

Another mostly forgotten Bletchley genius was Gordon Welchman who goes unmentioned in that travesty "Imitation Game"

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David1970 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 03, 2021, 10:10:53 am »

Quote from: advent2016 on April 03, 2021, 10:03:18 am

Another mostly forgotten Bletchley genius was Gordon Welchman who goes unmentioned in that travesty "Imitation Game"

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Don’t forget Tommy Flowers, the man who designed and built Colossus

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Jonestown · « **Reply #31 on:** April 03, 2021, 10:11:58 am »

Quote from: advent2016 on April 03, 2021, 10:03:18 am

Another mostly forgotten Bletchley genius was Gordon Welchman who goes unmentioned in that travesty "Imitation Game"

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And not to forget the GPO engineer, Thomas Harold Flowers, who did most of the technology heavy lifting.

tesla · « **Reply #32 on:** April 03, 2021, 12:33:27 pm »

Quote from: advent2016 on April 03, 2021, 10:03:18 am

Another mostly forgotten Bletchley genius was Gordon Welchman who goes unmentioned in that travesty "Imitation Game"

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Welchman actually recruited Joan Clarke, not a crossword puzzle like in the Irritation Game

tesla · « **Reply #33 on:** April 03, 2021, 12:40:46 pm »

Quote from: Jonestown on April 03, 2021, 10:11:58 am

And not to forget the GPO engineer, Thomas Harold Flowers, who did most of the technology heavy lifting.

not strictly true, Flowers built Colossus, to help break the Lorenz teleprinter cipher, or Fish as it was known by it's code name, much tougher than Enigma.
but Harold "Doc" Keen and the British Tabulating Machine Co. built the Bombes that Turing and Welchman designed to attack Enigma.

rebuilt fully working Bombe and Colossus can be seen (when open) at The National Museum of Computing on the Bletchley Park site but not part of the BP Museum

Chorley · « **Reply #34 on:** April 03, 2021, 12:59:51 pm »

Quote from: tesla on April 03, 2021, 06:46:06 am

you do realise the Imitation Game film was a work of fiction based loosely on truth, if you want to learn about Turing read the Hodges biography or the one written by his Nephew Dermot Turing or visit Bletchley Park on veterans reunion day and talk to some people who actually knew him

Wow, who'd have thought there were son many Alan Turing experts on a punting site?

Xtro · « **Reply #35 on:** April 03, 2021, 01:17:15 pm »

Quote from: Chorley on April 03, 2021, 12:59:51 pm

Wow, who'd have thought there were son many Alan Turing experts on a punting site?

Alan Turin was an expert at cracking.

UKP members are experts on cracks!

dubs · « **Reply #36 on:** April 03, 2021, 01:19:46 pm »

Quote from: Chorley on April 03, 2021, 12:59:51 pm

Wow, who'd have thought there were son many Alan Turing experts on a punting site?

I bet WGs wouldn’t be surprised given the number of socially inept IT nerds that visit them.

Chorley · « **Reply #37 on:** April 03, 2021, 01:59:34 pm »

Quote from: dubs on April 03, 2021, 01:19:46 pm

I bet WGs wouldn’t be surprised given the number of socially inept IT nerds that visit them.

markeewould · « **Reply #38 on:** April 03, 2021, 02:46:38 pm »

imagine if they did bank notes like the do stamps so theyre worth a service at any point in time rather than a value ... you could stock up on blow jobs for when you are older but do it in your twenties ....

just thought ....

Quote from: winkywanky on March 25, 2021, 12:29:10 pm

Wow, didn't know that, interesting

Matrix · « **Reply #39 on:** April 03, 2021, 03:38:06 pm »

Quote from: Markus on March 25, 2021, 11:33:05 am

I'm glad he got the recognition he finally deserves and is immortalized on our highest denomination banknote. Appalling it took until 2009 for this country to issue an apology for the treatment he received.

If only Apple would admit that the bite out of the apple in their logo is a nod to Turing who had one at his bedside when they found him.

Great looking note.

RBS still issue £100 notes.

Jimmyredcab · « **Reply #40 on:** April 03, 2021, 05:30:01 pm »

Quote from: Matrix on April 03, 2021, 03:38:06 pm

RBS still issue £100 notes.

They would be almost impossible to spend down South.

Many shops won’t even accept English £50 notes.

Blackpool Rock · « **Reply #41 on:** April 03, 2021, 05:56:49 pm »

Quote from: Jimmyredcab on April 03, 2021, 05:30:01 pm

They would be almost impossible to spend down South.

Many shops won’t even accept English £50 notes.

In fact no Scottish banknotes are legal tender in the UK (including Scotland) but they are legal currency, it's an historical "Technicality"

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cideruk · « **Reply #42 on:** April 04, 2021, 07:32:04 pm »

Glad Turing is on a note, although I'd have liked Maggie to have been on the fifty if only to annoy the professionally offended

winkywanky · « **Reply #43 on:** April 05, 2021, 11:43:05 am »

Quote from: cideruk on April 04, 2021, 07:32:04 pm

Glad Turing is on a note, although I'd have liked Maggie to have been on the fifty if only to annoy the professionally offended

Another way to look at it, is why would you put someone on a banknote who polarises opinion so much? She is hated by many. For that reason she'll never be on a banknote.

But you must try not to be offended by that

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For the record, personally I think she did some hateful things, she did some very good things, and in the end her stubbornness and inability to listen to even her friends and allies is what finished her off. She went out with a whimper, which did her reputation no good either.

Back to the main point though, you're only ever going to see someone on a bank note who is universally loved or respected (even if that's only for a relatively few people who know who the fuck they are).

cideruk · « **Reply #44 on:** April 05, 2021, 05:04:02 pm »

Maggie only disliked by life failures
But maybe better to keep her for a tenner or twenty as the haters won't see any fifties

Plenty dislike the likes of Nightingale, Churchill and Turing

Xtro · « **Reply #45 on:** April 05, 2021, 05:13:13 pm »

Banknote character - speech by Andrew Bailey (Given at the unveil of the Alan Turing £50 polymer Banknote)
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Jimmyredcab · « **Reply #46 on:** April 05, 2021, 05:20:47 pm »

Quote from: cideruk on April 05, 2021, 05:04:02 pm

Maggie only disliked by life failures
But maybe better to keep her for a tenner or twenty as the haters won't see any fifties

So hated that she won three general elections by a landslide.

cideruk · « **Reply #47 on:** April 05, 2021, 05:25:49 pm »

Quote from: Jimmyredcab on April 05, 2021, 05:20:47 pm

So hated that she won three general elections by a landslide.

Yep and the haters still are obsessed with her, despite being dead for ages

Always someone else's fault init

Blackpool Rock · « **Reply #48 on:** April 05, 2021, 05:27:30 pm »

This thread appears to have crossed well over the "No politics" border

Chorley · « **Reply #49 on:** April 05, 2021, 05:51:07 pm »

Quote from: Blackpool Rock on April 05, 2021, 05:27:30 pm

This thread appears to have crossed well over the "No politics" border

I was just about to comment exactly this.

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Author Topic: New £50 note. (Read 2636 times)