TS SPs ...what the deal, what's the attraction?

[winkywanky]

I believe for males that pre op male TS SPs are for homosexual and bisexuals.

You're partly right.

Gay blokes don't care for Trannies, they provide little or no attraction for them. Ask any Trans girl, they will tell you the guys that come to see them are 'straight'. As for Gay guys, I knew a couple platonically in my workplace and they confirmed this. Some Gay guys actually hate them (so much for the Gay community demanding liberal attitudes towards them).

On the scale of male sexuality, with limp-wristed, knock-kneed, mincing and lisping ( ) at one end, and Burt Reynolds at the other, I think guys who see Trans girls are probably somewhere in the middle.

[ah333]

I've not been with a TS but would definitely try it. I'm an anal enthusiast so it definitely piques my interest. I've looked at a few but, having had various SPs stick things up my bum I know that's not really for me so I'd have to find a TS girl who is content with bottom only. I'm sure there's a few.

Nope. Nothing small about my penis.
And I've never fucked a "cisgirl."
Keep up with the ad hominems though, speaks volumes about you.

This is the best post I've ever read on here 

[TheMagnet]

As a red blooded male I’m attracted to the female form.

With some TSs being so stunning and giving many cis girls a run for their money, naturally I was going to give it a try at some point.

Also once you’ve had 3 somes, done anal and participated in orgies etc I think you also start looking for new kinks.

Initially started as a top only and not going anywhere near the cock, eventually you want them to enjoy the experience and you return the favour.

Then being bottomed was tried with overall preference to a versatile experience, it’s very intense especially if they’re dominant.

I think if society accepted men having sex with TSs and not as a taboo, more guys would be doing it because it would be a regular thing that wouldn’t be frowned upon.

I also find that TSs are heavily sexualised by men in general, mixture of them being the forbidden fruit and their overall scarcity in comparison to cis girls.

[Ali Katt]

I hope this does not offend anyone
but why go with a TS?
is it forbidden fruit?
is it a BI thing
i don't understand or see the attraction?
Again not trying to offend , trying to understand

Why are you posting hit and run posts? Sharing baths, rimming etc. Either you want to try all the things or you are trying to get a reaction.

[Ali Katt]

You're partly right.

Gay blokes don't care for Trannies, they provide little or no attraction for them. Ask any Trans girl, they will tell you the guys that come to see them are 'straight'. As for Gay guys, I knew a couple platonically in my workplace and they confirmed this. Some Gay guys actually hate them (so much for the Gay community demanding liberal attitudes towards them).

On the scale of male sexuality, with limp-wristed, knock-kneed, mincing and lisping ( ) at one end, and Burt Reynolds at the other, I think guys who see Trans girls are probably somewhere in the middle.

A lot of gay men are only attracted to masculine guys. I think the circle has turned were there are a lot of straight metrosexual men, the Toni and Guy model types. I also think gay men have it sussed I was going to post a thread on off topic about this, but gay men never whinge about sexless relationships or being able to find hook ups. Apart from breast feed I believe a male same sex couple are as powerful as a straight couple.

We are living in the age of self identification if someone fucks ts and considers themselves straight that's fine with me. Other's have mentioned it, but there is a scale from the bloke who crossdresses to the man who has had the chop and is female by deed poll.

[90125]

Also note how Punter S. Hithead disappeared until he sensed some form of support. Classic pathetic wanker behaviour  .

He can no longer see any Topic Categorised as TS.

[tynetunnel]

Excellent work 

[Silencio]

A lot of this depends what you think your sexual preference means. It is about the sexual organ or how they look?

I'm attracted to people who look like women, have feminine features, boobs, curvy ass, pretty face, long hair. I don't much care whether they have a cock or a pussy, though I do prefer pussy.

If you think your sexual preference is about the sexual organ, that's fine, but you gotta then ask yourself how you'd feel about having sex with a Trans Man? (someone with female sexual organs but who looks traditionally masculine)

[winkywanky]

He can no longer see any Topic Categorised as TS.

Good, thanks for that 90125  .

I know the possibility of this has been discussed on here before, I don't know whether that is a recent site feature but if it is, a very welcome addition.

[winkywanky]

Some of these are you/you must be Gay to want to see a tranny posts are teasing, poking fun, it goes with the territory (and why would I care, this place is anonymous).

But many are pointed and obviously designed to be offensive. And that is blatant trolling, like we saw form Mr. S Hithead  .

Nice to know that it's possible to exclude members from TS threads if need be, and the next time the above happens they can ask to be excluded, or it might be suggested to them that they request to be.

[s0whatsnew?]

My own reason for seeing a TS was curiosity about my own sexuality.  It did nothing for me, doubt (but never say never) I'll do it again, but am glad to have checked out that particular experience.

At the same time, I'm aware of some pretty weird stuff in my subconscious which I can never quite put my finger on.  So the more permutations of human relationships i can get into, the better.  Its more fun than going to a bloody psychotherapist, anyway !

[cotton]

A lot of this depends what you think your sexual preference means. It is about the sexual organ or how they look?

I'm attracted to people who look like women, have feminine features, boobs, curvy ass, pretty face, long hair. I don't much care whether they have a cock or a pussy, though I do prefer pussy.

If you think your sexual preference is about the sexual organ, that's fine, but you gotta then ask yourself how you'd feel about having sex with a Trans Man? (someone with female sexual organs but who looks traditionally masculine)

Presumably its about both , sexual organ and how they look.
If your hetero you want the sexual organ to be a vagina and for them to look like a woman , simple.
If you want them to look like a woman but arnt bothered by the sexual organ then to me that would suggest you gravitate towards women but also like cock and like acts of a homosexual nature , nothing wrong with that of course, i guess its kindof like homosexuality-light or homosexuality wrapped in a veneer of femininity.  Is that fair 
In terms of sexual nomenclature , i would think if you only see ts , people who look like women but have cocks , that would be homosexual.
Whereas if you see women , blokes , ts whatever then that would be bisexual.

[69Luvva]

Presumably its about both , sexual organ and how they look.
If your hetero you want the sexual organ to be a vagina and for them to look like a woman , simple.
If you want them to look like a woman but arnt bothered by the sexual organ then to me that would suggest you gravitate towards women but also like cock and like acts of a homosexual nature , nothing wrong with that of course, i guess its kindof like homosexuality-light or homosexuality wrapped in a veneer of femininity.  Is that fair 
In terms of sexual nomenclature , i would think if you only see ts , people who look like women but have cocks , that would be homosexual.
Whereas if you see women , blokes , ts whatever then that would be bisexual.

As I said I'm definitely not at all attracted to men or masculinity or watching men fuck men but I am curious about cocks since I enjoy mine a lot.  Tried my damnedest to suck it myself over the years but never was flexible enough!   
So I'm definitely bicurous even though I'd never seriously thought about doing anything with a guy.
But yes I agree with what you say about it being wrapped in a veneer of femininity.  For me it has to be a very convincing venner, but I am definitely very curious about it. 
And there is something kind of taboo about the whole thing which is a big draw.
Biologically of course they're still men, but with hormone treatment and a boob job and cosmetic enhancements they can be every bit as feminine as a woman.  Let's face it, how many female escorts these days aren't rocking boob jobs, lip filler and all kinds of other cosmetic tweaks to make them more appealing?  There really isn't that much difference. Except for a cock. 

[pa5151]

As one of the straightest guys in the forum you eventually come full circle after banging dozens of women and realise there is nothing better than a woman with tits and a hard on.

I have retired from the TS game but will keep it as a fantasy. 

[Captainhowdy666]

Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.
I’m here for a good time, not a long time.

[Mick2342234]

A lot of this depends what you think your sexual preference means. It is about the sexual organ or how they look?

I'm attracted to people who look like women, have feminine features, boobs, curvy ass, pretty face, long hair. I don't much care whether they have a cock or a pussy, though I do prefer pussy.

If you think your sexual preference is about the sexual organ, that's fine, but you gotta then ask yourself how you'd feel about having sex with a Trans Man? (someone with female sexual organs but who looks traditionally masculine)

That’s pretty much nail on head for me. I like people who overall look feminine. Be that a cis woman or a transgender woman (Cis men don’t do it for me, even feminine ones). The sexual organ involved is largely moot, if there’s a pussy I’ll bury my face in it, play with it and fuck it. If it’s a cock I’ll suck it, play with it and get fucked by it. I’m very much of the opinion that sex should just be a pleasurable physical meeting of two people, specifics be dammed. I prefer cis women but every now and then a trans woman scratches an itch that cis women can’t.

[TheMagnet]

That’s pretty much nail on head for me. I like people who overall look feminine. Be that a cis woman or a transgender woman (Cis men don’t do it for me, even feminine ones). The sexual organ involved is largely moot, if there’s a pussy I’ll bury my face in it, play with it and fuck it. If it’s a cock I’ll suck it, play with it and get fucked by it. I’m very much of the opinion that sex should just be a pleasurable physical meeting of two people, specifics be dammed. I prefer cis women but every now and then a trans woman scratches an itch that cis women can’t.

+1 Well said, you nailed it!

[JPin]

Tried my damnedest to suck it myself over the years but never was flexible enough!

I can do this. Did it A LOT when I was in my teens.

[winkywanky]

Lucky old you.

It used to be a recurring dream of mine to be able to suck myself off (true) .

Do you find yourself going right off the idea just as you cum?

[Rick2468]

I see adverts for TS's and think some are amazingly attractive but no matter how feminine they look I just can't shake the fact that there used to be a man. Some of them look great for good prices too. Just not for me.

[69Luvva]

I can do this. Did it A LOT when I was in my teens.

Lucky bastard! 
Yes, I can imagine if I'd been lucky enough to bend that way I'd have spent half my time with my cock in my mouth instead of just my hands! 

[Gch1965]

I think i posted this previously but i love going with woman i love going with feminine trans but male on male and male porn i actually find repulsive so i don't class my self as gay more straight slightly leaning to the other side.

[69Luvva]

I think i posted this previously but i love going with woman i love going with feminine trans but male on male and male porn i actually find repulsive so i don't class my self as gay more straight slightly leaning to the other side.

Same here! Sometimes I watch a bit of trans porn - but if they're even slightly masculine to me I get that same feeling of repulsion.
That's why I haven't yet bit the bullet and seen a Trans escort...always that concern that they won't be as feminine in person!

[cotton]

Same here! Sometimes I watch a bit of trans porn - but if they're even slightly masculine to me I get that same feeling of repulsion.
That's why I haven't yet bit the bullet and seen a Trans escort...always that concern that they won't be as feminine in person!

Yeh not a decision to be taken lightly thats for sure , and just how feminine can it be when they whip out the old meat and 2 veg 

[donnybob]

I have not met a TS SP but I have taken a TS to a swingers club

When I met her she had a slightly masculine look in her face but I could see she had a great figure

Once in the club and changed apart from swinging her shoulders in a masculine way she looked every inch a woman

She had great boobs and they felt very realistic, tied to a st andrews cross in the dungeon and later on in a room I was closely acquainted with her pussy and I for one could not tell her vagina had once been a dick

We did play with another couple and as I was giving her oral he was fucking my TS friend then suddenly stopped started swearing in some foreign language and jumped off swiftly followed by the lady I was entertaining so god knows what made him suddenly realise lol

Does that make me gay ? well for one I don't believe in labels, but she looked like a woman, felt like a woman, and fucked like a woman, so you decide

[69Luvva]

Yeh not a decision to be taken lightly thats for sure , and just how feminine can it be when they whip out the old meat and 2 veg 

As others have said - it's not the cock that turns me off about men, it's the masculine features. I love my own cock and I'm very curious about playing with one - so as long as she's very feminine I'm sure I'll be turned on. 

I think if she was as feminine as these ladies look I'll definitely cope. 

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[69Luvva]

I have not met a TS SP but I have taken a TS to a swingers club

When I met her she had a slightly masculine look in her face but I could see she had a great figure

Once in the club and changed apart from swinging her shoulders in a masculine way she looked every inch a woman

She had great boobs and they felt very realistic, tied to a st andrews cross in the dungeon and later on in a room I was closely acquainted with her pussy and I for one could not tell her vagina had once been a dick

We did play with another couple and as I was giving her oral he was fucking my TS friend then suddenly stopped started swearing in some foreign language and jumped off swiftly followed by the lady I was entertaining so god knows what made him suddenly realise lol

Does that make me gay ? well for one I don't believe in labels, but she looked like a woman, felt like a woman, and fucked like a woman, so you decide

Of course it doesn't make you gay. One swallow does not make a summer! 
If you almost exclusively fuck women and once had an experience with a TS that is just one act and hardly defines you sexually.  And as it was with a post-op TS as opposed to pre-op it is hard to argue there is even a homosexual act going on. Of course technically a TS is still a man genetically even if in every other way they look and act like a woman, but so what? It sounds to me like you had a good time so who cares what anyone else thinks? 

[winkywanky]

Of course it doesn't make you gay. One swallow does not make a summer! 

 

[Sebstyles7]

Like many on here, my TS tendancies only come from very feminine looking TSs.  It had always been women and never, ever men growing up and not until my early 30's and seeing a bit of TS porn that tweaked my interest.  We are only here once so why not give it a go I thought?  And Yes really enjoyed the encounters mainly.  Some more than others of course but that was down to the individual meeting and escort rather than the fact they were in fact a TS escort with a cock (not particularly intrigued by post op at this point).  Some I've seen you woudn't have believed they had a hidden surprise between their legs.

As for how I see myself, then it's straight with a kink I suppose.  I have seen a mistress on a couple of occasions and enjoy the power play and anal play/pegging but prefer the full encounter with a real cock on a sexy feminine TS girl TBH.  With the mistresses I end up just wanting to fuck them which most don't allow.

[Stevelondon]

Of course it doesn't make you gay. One swallow does not make a summer!

I defintely could not swall...........Oh I see....the bird.....sorry 

[lillythesavage]

Lots of over thinking and labelling going on, if the dick rises, it turns you on, give it a go, if it does not then stick to what makes it rise. 

[Stevelondon]

Perhaps the clue to the OP question is actually in the question.......Attraction.

Surely I must be like a lot of others on here and turned up at a punt only to find the SP is nowhere near as attaractive as I thought she might be. But your there, you go through with it and put it down to just part of punting life.

I am absolutely sure I would have preferred a blow job from a beautiful TS rather than some of the SP's I've been unlucky to have met.

Plus as Lilly says....far too much of a label thing going on nowadays.
Its all about pleasure and enjoyment........I should really extend myself and give it a go.

[Colston36]

Perhaps the clue to the OP question is actually in the question.......Attraction.

Surely I must be like a lot of others on here and turned up at a punt only to find the SP is nowhere near as attaractive as I thought she might be. But your there, you go through with it and put it down to just part of punting life.

I am absolutely sure I would have preferred a blow job from a beautiful TS rather than some of the SP's I've been unlucky to have met.

Plus as Lilly says....far too much of a label thing going on nowadays.
Its all about pleasure and enjoyment........I should really extend myself and give it a go.

The older I get (I'll be 85 in 5 days) the more I am inclined to try new things, or variations on old themes. And the more they fall into the category of "forbidden" the more interested I become.

Two years ago a girl I was seeing in a MFF threesomem got me to join her in nibbling a guy's cock - though I got no pleasure when he had a go at mine. Around the same time I went with another girl to see a TS and had a great time. To mark  my birthday I am contemplating seeing a TS with an 8.5" weapon.

None of these things interested me 5 years ago

[PunterNumber69]

TS seems to be a growing area for porn too. I think a few years ago it was a niche area and now major stars are regularly doing TS scenes. I am curious as to why it had suddenly grown. Maybe guys like the idea of there being two cocks in the scene?

[Band1t]

My first contact with a TS was at a “fashion show” in Bugis st Singapore in 1979 as a 22 year old. In a classic scene there was a mega brawl at the end. Some guy “dropped the hand” with the wrong girl  It wasn’t until 2018 that I had my first real experience with one in Thailand and have hooked up with a couple since.  It’s different and fun and they tend, in my experience, to have less inhibitions.
I don’t class myself as being gay, or bi, not that it really matters.

[Colston36]

My first contact with a TS was at a “fashion show” in Bugis st Singapore in 1979 as a 22 year old. In a classic scene there was a mega brawl at the end. Some guy “dropped the hand” with the wrong girl  It wasn’t until 2018 that I had my first real experience with one in Thailand and have hooked up with a couple since.  It’s different and fun and they tend, in my experience, to have less inhibitions.
I don’t class myself as being gay, or bi, not that it really matters.

Ha! I visited Bugis street in 1977, Went to loo and a hand came from behind me and grasped my Todger. Not my idea of fun!

[finn5555]

Around 20 years ago I saw, what I thought, was a woman doing a guy anally in a Dutch swinging club then realised it was a TS 

She/he was stunning 

20 years on I wouldn’t hesitate to have some fun but back then I was like woah! No No No 

[Ali Katt]

TS seems to be a growing area for porn too. I think a few years ago it was a niche area and now major stars are regularly doing TS scenes. I am curious as to why it had suddenly grown. Maybe guys like the idea of there being two cocks in the scene?

Women watching it as well as countries were the internet is more recent than the West i.e. North Africa, India etc.

[winkywanky]

Around 20 years ago I saw, what I thought, was a woman doing a guy anally in a Dutch swinging club then realised it was a TS 

She/he was stunning 

20 years on I wouldn’t hesitate to have some fun but back then I was like woah! No No No 

C'mon Finn, you can't get away with telling us that story without telling us what happened when it was your turn? 

 

[winkywanky]

Women watching it as well as countries were the internet is more recent than the West i.e. North Africa, India etc.

Many women would like to see guys get fucked, that's normal  .

[finn5555]

C'mon Finn, you can't get away with telling us that story without telling us what happened when it was your turn? 

 

I was meant to ‘man up’ but alas 

[winkywanky]

Go on, take it like a man (ie up the chuff  ).

[Ali Katt]

Many women would like to see guys get fucked, that's normal  .

There's been research that indicates women are the biggest consumers of male on male porn. Let's be honest gay men are to busy having sex to waste time cranking one out.

[Band1t]

Ha! I visited Bugis street in 1977, Went to loo and a hand came from behind me and grasped my Todger. Not my idea of fun!

That’s right, they made a point of grabbing at people’s todgers etc and being outrageous. It’s was great fun but always seemed to be on a knife edge waiting for a row to erupt. Singapore was so so different back then (I even had to cut my hair to get in via Malaysia) and Bugis st was its last bastion of unorganised chaotic behaviour. It was great.

[winkywanky]

There's been research that indicates women are the biggest consumers of male on male porn. Let's be honest gay men are to busy having sex to waste time cranking one out.

Men are generally more sexually proactive than women. Fact.

So for instance if men were twice as proactive, when you put two of them together (gaysters) then you get likelihood of sex squared. It's basic Maths.

As for women enjoying watching men at it, my ex was keen for me to purloin another male for some threesome fun, to include some interaction between him and me. At that point I hadn't 'discovered' trannies, if I had I suspect all hell would have broken loose    .

[Nagilum]

I remember my late grandfather came out with an amusing anecdote once. He said "Remember the one who shags is not gay, its the one getting shagged." This is a very Mediterranean attitude mind you. He was telling me about a story once when he fell asleep working as a kitchen porter, when suddenly he came about to a gay guy sucking him off. He was quite the deviant when younger and the ladies man.

I can see how he was partially right after the rise of TS punting. Especially, with what psychologists have suggested about the attraction of hetero males to trans women.

Some blokes like it and some don't. To each his own, ones sexuality is far more complex than what appears on the surface 

[winkywanky]

I remember my late grandfather came out with an amusing anecdote once. He said "Remember the one who shags is not gay, its the one getting shagged." This is a very Mediterranean attitude mind you.

Also I believe, in jails across the country.

[Nagilum]

Also I believe, in jails across the country.

Different world in the 60s.

[Ali Katt]

Men are generally more sexually proactive than women. Fact.

So for instance if men were twice as proactive, when you put two of them together (gaysters) then you get likelihood of sex squared. It's basic Maths.

As for women enjoying watching men at it, my ex was keen for me to purloin another male for some threesome fun, to include some interaction between him and me. At that point I hadn't 'discovered' trannies, if I had I suspect all hell would have broken loose    .

I can't deny that. Loads of escorts and maybe a few civvies undoubtedly have a higher sex drive than some men. I think with men there's less gameplaying, but even then some women who do OLD say otherwise. I would say at least with a man if a Melvyn Bragg is on offer you will get just that, not a cup of tea and a chat.

[myredsass]

I like women, I like dominant woman who tie you down and fuck you with a strap on, the jump to TS girls was not a big one.

I admit I do only look for the attractive feminine TS's though but I am almost at a point where I'd rather see a TS than a CIS, does that make me bi or gay, I don't know nor do I care, life is to short to worry about things like that