Murder investigation.

[David1970]

Well you should care.   

The media shouldn't give the thumbs up to some demonstrations and not others.

No Jimmy I don’t take sides on the issue of demonstrations, during this pandemic, they are all wrong. Just because you support one cause and think it should get positive media coverage means fuck all, all demonstrations should get zero or negative coverage.   

[Markus]

The suggestions of banning all men from being outside after 6pm or whatever is stupid.  We live in the 21st century where everyone has a mobile phone or some sort of device with a GPS signal. Surely they could come up with some alert system for women if they are feeling unsafe or attacked. A push button system if they wanted to make it simple. 

Part of me thinks that this she knew the copper in question but it is a absolute horrific thing to happen nonetheless.

[David1970]

The suggestions of banning all men from being outside after 6pm or whatever is stupid.  We live in the 21st century where everyone has a mobile phone or some sort of device with a GPS signal. Surely they could come up with some alert system for women if they are feeling unsafe or attacked. A push button system if they wanted to make it simple. 

Part of me thinks that this she knew the copper in question but it is a absolute horrific thing to happen nonetheless.

Agree with your post, just one question, how long do you think it would take the cops to turn up?
(I know police resources can be tied up with arsehole demonstrators but how long on a normal day or night.)

[badsin]

Only just seen that the 'police officer' involved had been caught exposing himself in a takeaway a few days before this young lady was abducted. Seems the Met new it was this guy, and took no action, and have now reported themselves for further investigation.
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[David1970]

Only just seen that the 'police officer' involved had been caught exposing himself in a takeaway a few days before this young lady was abducted. Seems the Met new it was this guy, and took no action, and have now reported themselves for further investigation.
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Hope how ever took the decision to do nothing losses their job and police pension. There also need to be a full investigation by a truly independent outside organisation, not the usual cops covering cops backs.

[badsin]

No wonder he's self harming in the cell's. An ex-cop, murderer and nonce isn't goin to enjoy prison....

[Corus Boy]

It depends where you come from, in some parts it's quite normal.  In fact in Leeds even the blokes have been heard to call each other "luv" 

The checkout girl in my local minimarket calls me and most other customers 'Luv'.

I'm terribly offended. 

Mind I did get in trouble when a Barista, who I knew, handed my coffee and said, "See you later."

When I replied great I'll pick you up at seven and we can start with dinner, unless you want to go straight back to mine?"

I was probably forty years older than her.  She replied, "You'll never keep up!" We laughed, the relief manager went balistic.

Back to the fallout from last night's vigil.  On Radio Wales call in programme this morning a photographer was be moaning that none of the media were interested in purchasing any of his pictures of the women jostling the Police, spitting at them, surrounding them and attempting to seperate them from their colleagues, no face masks or social distancing, all they wanted were those of the Police pushing, arresting and dragging the women away!  It is there that the media coverage started, hopefully the Police will have some bodycam footage that they are allowed to release.

[David1970]

I see Kate turned up at the makeshift memorial for Sarah Everard to pay her respects according to the some media reports.

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[David1970]

Back to the fallout from last night's vigil.  On Radio Wales call in programme this morning a photographer was be moaning that none of the media were interested in purchasing any of his pictures of the women jostling the Police, spitting at them, surrounding them and attempting to seperate them from their colleagues, no face masks or social distancing

They got one photo of someone without a mask at the memorial and published it

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[advent2016]

They got one photo of someone without a mask at the memorial and published it

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Are masks mandatory outside now?

[David1970]

Are masks mandatory outside now?

Replying to Corus Boys post about lack of photos of woman no face masks

[King Nuts]

I cannot believe you are still trying to drag this up again after last time. Falsely using a family’s unbelievably tragic event for political ends. Shame on you.

I am not using anything for 'political ends'.

Seems that grief is getting very selective these days. Dozens of women are getting killed every year, and yet we're not seeing vigils every time.

It's now clear that last night, the usual rent-a-mob of troublemakers turned up.

THEY are the people using tragedy for 'political ends'. Not me.

[Jimmyredcab]

Back to the fallout from last night's vigil.  On Radio Wales call in programme this morning a photographer was be moaning that none of the media were interested in purchasing any of his pictures of the women jostling the Police, spitting at them, surrounding them and attempting to seperate them from their colleagues, no face masks or social distancing, all they wanted were those of the Police pushing, arresting and dragging the women away!  It is there that the media coverage started, hopefully the Police will have some bodycam footage that they are allowed to release.

The media are always selective of what photos they publish, that’s why live You-Tube is so useful. 



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[Jimmyredcab]

It's now clear that last night, the usual rent-a-mob of troublemakers turned up.

THEY are the people using tragedy for 'political ends'. Not me.

100% correct, these anarchists taunted the police for hours before they took action. 

[Yankee21]

Kate should've never been anywhere near there.

If she goes - others will quite rightly say - well a member of the Royal family went why can't we?

But then she maybe trying ti deflect the bad press around Meghan&Harry-gate.

[Yankee21]

100% correct, these anarchists taunted the police for hours before they took action. 

Hours? No they didn't.

[David1970]

Kate should've never been anywhere near there.

If she goes - others will quite rightly say - well a member of the Royal family went why can't we?

But then she maybe trying ti deflect the bad press around Meghan&Harry-gate.

Can you imagine the headlines if it had been Megan going there not Kate?

[Markus]

Agree with your post, just one question, how long do you think it would take the cops to turn up?
(I know police resources can be tied up with arsehole demonstrators but how long on a normal day or night.)

Depends where you live.  The only recommendation I've heard so far was the CPS looking at increasing sentences for violence against women.  Doesn't really address the issue.  I live near a train station and routinely women walk home around midnight after work/night out and we have never had an issue with a case of a woman being attacked.  The council replaced the old lamppost lights to LED ones which are more energy efficient (saving them huge sums of money) but they also have an additional benefit in that it is clearer, covers a wider area thereby eliminating dimly lit areas.  I'd like to think that the introduction of cheap ride services like Uber has also reduced attacks against women as its become less costly to take a ride home and there is an identification system for drivers and passengers.

[David1970]

100% correct, these anarchists taunted the police for hours before they took action. 

Doesn’t matter if they were anarchists, anti-Facemask nutters or who ever, they should not have been there. We are in a pandemic and we have lockdown laws.

[David1970]

Depends where you live.  The only recommendation I've heard so far was the CPS looking at increasing sentences for violence against women.  Doesn't really address the issue.  I live near a train station and routinely women walk home around midnight after work/night out and we have never had an issue with a case of a woman being attacked.  The council replaced the old lamppost lights to LED ones which are more energy efficient (saving them huge sums of money) but they also have an additional benefit in that it is clearer, covers a wider area thereby eliminating dimly lit areas.  I'd like to think that the introduction of cheap ride services like Uber has also reduced attacks against women as its become less costly to take a ride home and there is an identification system for drivers and passengers.

Good interesting post and what you write makes sense

[Jimmyredcab]

Hours? No they didn't.

I watched it live from the start on You-Tube, did you.   

[Jimmyredcab]

Kate should've never been anywhere near there.

If she goes - others will quite rightly say - well a member of the Royal family went why can't we?

I agree, she set a bad example.

[David1970]

I agree, she set a bad example.

Should have sent Andrew 

[Apu]

Lockdown or not.
In a democratic country people are allowed to demonstrate, protest even it is a anti lockdown protest.
I believe the courts didn't get involved for a reason....

Nottingham police clearly taught London Met a lesson in compassion and organisation.

If I were the family of Sarah, you feel terribly let down by the police.

The Met Police.... Shame on you.

[Apu]

Should have sent Andrew 

He was busy on fuck Island.... Baby sitting duties.

[David1970]

Lockdown or not.
In a democratic country people are allowed to demonstrate, protest even it is a anti lockdown protest.
I believe the courts didn't get involved for a reason....

Nottingham police clearly taught London Met a lesson in compassion and organisation.

If I were the family of Sarah, you feel terribly let down by the police.

The Met Police.... Shame on you.

Courts did get involved.

[daviemac]

Lockdown or not.
In a democratic country people are allowed to demonstrate, protest even it is a anti lockdown protest.
I believe the courts didn't get involved for a reason....

Nottingham police clearly taught London Met a lesson in compassion and organisation.

If I were the family of Sarah, you feel terribly let down by the police.

The Met Police.... Shame on you.

Not if it means breaking another law to do it and the current lockdown trumps any demonstration.

[David1970]

Are masks mandatory outside now?

She wore a mask one last week outside, but then again what’s the point of doing a publicity stunt if no one recognises you

[Jimmyredcab]

Lockdown or not.
In a democratic country people are allowed to demonstrate, protest even it is a anti lockdown protest.

Once again, totally wrong.
Under emergency laws demonstrations are not allowed and organising one can get you a £10,000 fine.

[David1970]

Once again, totally wrong.
Under emergency laws demonstrations are not allowed and organising one can get you a £10,000 fine.

Quite correct Jimmy and needs to be enforced, problem is The Mets boss is now getting involved and not on the side of the police.

[martini2429]

It was obvious that when the vigil was banned there would still be a large presence and an opportunity for factions from extreme left and right to use it for their own ends.

I went to the vigil and had sight of the bandstand and during the day it was all quite peaceful later on it looked to me that activists and their camera-people (didn't want to use the word  "cameraman") deliberately tried to cause trouble and were inevitably restrained by the police and taken away. The woman with red hair was very photogenic and refused to leave peacefully.

I might be unduly cynical but it looked very staged to me.

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Her name is Patsy Stevenson, actress and Left Wing Activist, apparently she said afterwards:

After what happened today at Clapham Common I want to redirect the focus away from the police and towards what actually happened. We need to be seen and heard and that's why I'm calling for everyone to meet up at 5pm on the 15th March outside Parliament Square. See you then."

Expect more trouble outside Parliament tomorrow

 

[Apu]

Once again, totally wrong.
Under emergency laws demonstrations are not allowed and organising one can get you a £10,000 fine.

Legality and morality don't come hand in hand otherwise slavery and dictatorship would still be upheld today.

There is no reason why a vigil couldn't go ahead. Nottingham ( read on it).

Good thing alot of good people came to pay their respects.

In the words of Ice Cube.... Fuck the police.

If they did their job, Wayne Couzens would have been arrested and investigated on the 28fh February. Any backlash is justified.

[Yankee21]

I watched it live from the start on You-Tube, did you.   

wife and eldest were there.

Youtube -lol.

 

[Jimmyredcab]

wife and eldest were there.

Youtube -lol.

 

Proof that you are totally biased if your wife attended an illegal gathering. 

[sanchez]

From what I can gather the courts chucked the case back to the Met and the Met did a reasonable job of policing it until members of the crowd approached the bandstand. At which point they were asked to stop and disperse as they weren’t allowing speeches to take place or for the vigil to turn into a protest. At this point a number of women got arrested after the police tried to talk them down and they refused to move. You can clearly see this happening in one of the videos. From those arrests came the pictures that feature on the front pages.

It’s such a shame that the death of this young girl has been hijacked in this way. It’s seems that any well meaning movement gets thoroughly embroiled in a social and mainstream media shit storm.

[Markus]

She wore a mask one last week outside, but then again what’s the point of doing a publicity stunt if no one recognises you

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I thought the same thing.  She wore a mask last week to that school they visited.  Clearly that interview with M&H has rattled them.

[Jimmyredcab]

Her name is Patsy Stevenson, actress and Left Wing Activist, apparently she said afterwards:

After what happened today at Clapham Common I want to redirect the focus away from the police and towards what actually happened. We need to be seen and heard and that's why I'm calling for everyone to meet up at 5pm on the 15th March outside Parliament Square. See you then."

Expect more trouble outside Parliament tomorrow

 

Yes, I heard her on the radio this morning, she should be arrested and fined £10,000 for organising an illegal demonstration.

[Apu]

It's a shame police don't police their own. Wayne Couzens for example.  Working and killing while breaking the law on 28th Feb and living as normal for 11 days without police intervention.

Well I guess the outrage is justified.

Defund the police? 

[Jimmyredcab]

+1

I thought the same thing.  She wore a mask last week to that school they visited.

If she was INSIDE the school then a mask would be appropriate, slightly different to being in the open air of Clapham Common.   

[Yankee21]

Proof that you are totally biased if your wife attended an illegal gathering. 

Bias - And of course people act completely normal when a camera is pointed at them when they are on YT

you do make me laugh Jimmy.

You are VERY out of touch.

[Yankee21]

It's a shame police don't police their own. Wayne Couzens for example.  Working and killing while breaking the law on 28th Feb and living as normal for 11 days without police intervention.

Well I guess the outrage is justified.

Defund the police? 

they are skint anyways.

20,000 police taken off the streets under May's watch.

[David1970]

If she was INSIDE the school then a mask would be appropriate, slightly different to being in the open air of Clapham Common.   

No Jimmy she walked outside with William for quite a time, that’s when he said the family was not racist, both had masks on.

[Blackpool Rock]

Should have sent Andrew 

Perhaps Kate feels safer walking the streets than being in the palace with a sex pest 

[Jimmyredcab]

20,000 police taken off the streets under May's watch.

I am unable to comment as politics is a banned subject.     

[Jimmyredcab]

No Jimmy she walked outside with William for quite a time, that’s when he said the family was not racist, both had masks on.

Then that’s their personal choice, just like the idiot I saw yesterday wearing a mask while driving his own car. 

[Markus]

Then that’s their personal choice, just like the idiot I saw yesterday wearing a mask while driving his own car. 

We know you love the Royal family but don't try and justify Kate going yesterday as anything other than a publicity stunt.   Wearing a mask while driving your car is acceptable - most people don't like to continually keep taking it off and on especially if the elasticated strap on them keeps snapping.

[David1970]

Then that’s their personal choice, just like the idiot I saw yesterday wearing a mask while driving his own car. 

Take it the man in the car was not involved in a PR stunt?

[David1970]

We know you love the Royal family but don't try and justify Kate going yesterday as anything other than a publicity stunt.   Wearing a mask while driving your car is acceptable - most people don't like to continually keep taking it off and on especially if the elasticated strap on them keeps snapping.

Megan went to the scene of a rape and murder of a female in South Africa without the press to show her solidarity.

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[Jimmyredcab]

Wearing a mask while driving your car is acceptable .

Only if you are mentally unstable.     

[Paris69]

Well you should care.   

The media shouldn't give the thumbs up to some demonstrations and not others.

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