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Not sure if people have heard of Kevin Samuels but he's been making waves in the US for telling women their standards are not realistic, how they have been misled by feminism and been the voice of average working men everywhere. I've seen some of his videos and he makes a lot of sense. I think this is the only interview on him that I have seen so far.

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Not sure if people have heard of Kevin Samuels but he's been making waves in the US for telling women their standards are not realistic, how they have been misled by feminism and been the voice of average working men everywhere. I've seen some of his videos and he makes a lot of sense. I think this is the only interview on him that I have seen so far.

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I'm a big fan. Let's see if they try and water him down if he makes it to the networks.

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I'm a big fan. Let's see if they try and water him down if he makes it to the networks.

When I first saw him I was abit skeptical because there's too many frauds on youtube, then I watched some of his videos and was like oh...he's the real deal lol.

I don't think he'll make mainstream news, to be honest I am surprised he has gotten as far as he has with his content. I guess the situation has really become that bad that his voice is now able to travel so far. Many other men have been saying the same things for years all the way back in 2010. I remember rollo tomasi being one of them and I read his book back when I was at uni then, he never got such traction. Perhaps it's Kevin Samuels energy and delivery that set him apart from the others.

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Yeah he is great I enjoy watching his show, found his lane and is running with it. Don't think he will become mainstream unless he is given a really good offer by a tv network. The thing is Kevin is his own master so to speak so he can be blunt and say controversial things without the repercussions, I don't think mainstream media and the people at home are ready for this.

Quite different and funny but this guy also points out the high expectations average women set, dating apps are riddled with women like this.

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Not sure if people have heard of Kevin Samuels but he's been making waves in the US for telling women their standards are not realistic, how they have been misled by feminism and been the voice of average working men everywhere. I've seen some of his videos and he makes a lot of sense. I think this is the only interview on him that I have seen so far.

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Yeah I know Kevin Samuels very well. Used to watch him when he only did fragrance reviews and male version of what he does with females years ago. He had great advise for men to move up in the corporate ladder, fashion style and being best version of yourself. Though I stopped listening to him when he tried to convince men that you need to get marriage to reach the top % of guys and being a head of CEO company. That and most of his stuff got monotonous and they was less fragrance reviews as time continued. So I was little surprised that Kevin Samuels has moved to the female audience though I think I get it.

When he was doing his thing with guys, most guys take the advise and move on. Most of his male audience are willing to take accountability and really want to improve their life and do the work.

But when he decided to focus on the female audience you see gas lighting him, name calling, being delusional on their position in life and their looks, not taking accountability and being crazy from these post wall unstable females. All shown in full display to everyone. And seeing many females behaving so poorly = more views/eyes on his channel and therefore = $$$$. His male audience rarely behaved in such a manner and fragrance reviews rarely reach 100k views unless your Jeremy Fragrance. So Kevin Samuels youtube income never made that money. Now he will milk that train till money stop coming in but unlikely to happen as these females who are 35 year old plus keep calling in to prove him wrong. That or they are sadist.

As to watching his new videos, I will admit they are fun to watch here and there but again they get monotonous. I can guess what will happen in most of his livestreams. A delusional 40 year old Woman with 3 kids from different men calls in and now want to know how to get a high value man because she feels like it and want security. Even though she has never done the work to attract a high value man and wasted her 20's (her prime) to whore around with the wrong guy, partying/doing drugs and likely dumped that high value man in the past as he was to busy working on his business/career = he was no fun.

You guys should thank me for summaries Kevin Samuels livestreams and saving you hours watching them.

 

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When I first saw him I was abit skeptical because there's too many frauds on youtube, then I watched some of his videos and was like oh...he's the real deal lol.

I don't think he'll make mainstream news, to be honest I am surprised he has gotten as far as he has with his content. I guess the situation has really become that bad that his voice is now able to travel so far. Many other men have been saying the same things for years all the way back in 2010. I remember rollo tomasi being one of them and I read his book back when I was at uni then, he never got such traction. Perhaps it's Kevin Samuels energy and delivery that set him apart from the others.

The thing is that Kevin Samuels portrays himself as a high value man. He dress very well, speaks well, works for himself, good looking and fit, has style, shown recipes of the hot ladies he dates (unlike many PUA coaches) and go out in fancy events. So females will be attracted to that and want to shit test him. If average red pilled guy who is hiding behind youtube avatar (probably doing so that he won't lose his job) said the same thing as Kevin Samuels, these females and blue pilled guys will say stuff he live with his mums house (well he is saving money on rent/mortgages if that is true), he is ugly (and reason why he is using avatar), he is a bitter man and other terrible shaming languages they will use. That and sometimes the guy will get anger when being attacked with such arguments not making him look good.  The funny thing is that all of that got nothing to do with the argument but most people are dumb and think those shaming languages are legit arguments. Therefore stop bothering with that red pilled guy.

Guys like Kevin Samuels remove all that and these bitter females and blue pilled guys are naked as they got nothing to say to his arguments. You will see it when they trying to argue with Kevin Samuals and got blank when Kevin gives a great point to them calmly making them look stupid. In one of his livestreams he did ages ago for us male audience, he said your looks, appearance and how you behave matters. That is one of many reason why he is successful.
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The thing is that Kevin Samuels portrays himself as a high value man. He dress very well, speaks well, works for himself, good looking and fit, has style, shown recipes of the hot ladies he dates (unlike many PUA coaches) and go out in fancy events. So females will be attracted to that and want to shit test him. If average red pilled guy who is hiding behind youtube avatar (probably doing so that he won't lose his job) said the same thing as Kevin Samuels, these females and blue pilled guys will say stuff he live with his mums house (well he is saving money on rent/mortgages if that is true), he is ugly (and reason why he is using avatar), he is a bitter man and other terrible shaming languages they will use. That and sometimes the guy will get anger when being attacked with such arguments not making him look good.  The funny thing is that all of that got nothing to do with the argument but most people are dumb and think those shaming languages are legit arguments. Therefore stop bothering with that red pilled guy.

Guys like Kevin Samuels remove all that and these bitter females and blue pilled guys are naked as they got nothing to say to his arguments. You will see it when they trying to argue with Kevin Samuals and got blank when Kevin gives a great point to them calmly making them look stupid. In one of his livestreams he did ages ago for us male audience, he said your looks, appearance and how you behave matters. That is one of many reason why he is successful.

Yeah you're right, in his interview he really did make an emphasis on image. Your previous post about his videos are spot on lol. When I read the comments though, I felt like the audience are taking what he says and seeing it as extremes like, if you are not a "high value man" then you ain't shit. Which is a bit concerning because of what he regards as "high value" it's not possible through pure numbers alone for everyone to be that. There is not an infinite amount of six figure jobs, not everyone will possess that sort of character, and he does make reference to this but I felt like that got lost in his delivery because his new audience is obessed with "high value men" and women in the "danger zone" with unrealistic standards. I am curious to see where his message goes so I still check his videos every now and then. 
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Yeah you're right, in his interview he really did make an emphasis on image. Your previous post about his videos are spot on lol. When I read the comments though, I felt like the audience are taking what he says and seeing it as extremes like, if you are not a "high value man" then you ain't shit. Which is a bit concerning because of what he regards as "high value" it's not possible through pure numbers alone for everyone to be that. There is not an infinite amount of six figure jobs, not everyone will possess that sort of character, and he does make reference to this but I felt like that got lost in his delivery because his new audience is obessed with "high value men" and women in the "danger zone" with unrealistic standards. I am curious to see where his message goes so I still check his videos every now and then.

That the thing. Right now I am reading a book called "The millionaire next door". And the book states (from what I am reading in the early chapters) that having a 6 figure job does not mean your rich. You have to account for what that person is spending, if he has debt or other activities that is wasting money instead of making it work for him. 

Like the guy making £50K is putting most of the money in investment in stocks, savings, using coupons on his shopping, not going out to fancy restaurants, not spending to much on clothes and other wasteful activities who will be 3 - 4 years he is made £200K - £300K in his money. So yeah the 6 figure jobs guy is not everything to make a high value guy. But many females will walk past boring hard working guy who is careful on how much he spends and instead be attractive to the guy who is showing off not knowing he is in a £100K debt. Therefore the baller will have £60k in the bank instead of 100K. Meanwhile boring hard working guy has £200K in the bank in 5 years.

And the thing is that people who make 6 figures in the USA is around 9% - 15%. So these ladies looking for 6 figures won't ever meet one in there life and the 6 figure high value guy will have a pick of very attractive women he can choice from. And worst these ladies who call in to Kevin Samuels show aren't in the gym getting fit, know how to be a lady, has kids, has student loan debt for a worthless degree, not looked after themselves in regards of eating right and hitting the alcohol to much, has mental health due to there decisions and has fucked every tom dick and Harry. What high value man would want to deal with such a woman.

So yeah while I find Kevin Samuals work boring most of the time, he is doing good work.

P.S. Payyourwaymate have you seen the video of that crazy model who called in to Kevin Samuels show? That video was funny.

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That the thing. Right now I am reading a book called "The millionaire next door". And the book states (from what I am reading in the early chapters) that having a 6 figure job does not mean your rich. You have to account for what that person is spending, if he has debt or other activities that is wasting money instead of making it work for him. 

Like the guy making £50K is putting most of the money in investment in stocks, savings, using coupons on his shopping, not going out to fancy restaurants, not spending to much on clothes and other wasteful activities who will be 3 - 4 years he is made £200K - £300K in his money. So yeah the 6 figure jobs guy is not everything to make a high value guy. But many females will walk past boring hard working guy who is careful on how much he spends and instead be attractive to the guy who is showing off not knowing he is in a £100K debt. Therefore the baller will have £60k in the bank instead of 100K. Meanwhile boring hard working guy has £200K in the bank in 5 years.

And the thing is that people who make 6 figures in the USA is around 9% - 15%. So these ladies looking for 6 figures won't ever meet one in there life and the 6 figure high value guy will have a pick of very attractive women he can choice from. And worst these ladies who call in to Kevin Samuels show aren't in the gym getting fit, know how to be a lady, has kids, has student loan debt for a worthless degree, not looked after themselves in regards of eating right and hitting the alcohol to much, has mental health due to there decisions and has fucked every tom dick and Harry. What high value man would want to deal with such a woman.

So yeah while I find Kevin Samuals work boring most of the time, he is doing good work.

P.S. Payyourwaymate have you seen the video of that crazy model who called in to Kevin Samuels show? That video was funny.

Very valid points. One thing that is hard to knock once income goes up is lifestyle inflation. I have come across people that earn 6 figs on paper but their expenses were too much. Private school for the kids, big mortgage, excessive spending etc. It's all more than meets the eyes. It's unfortunate that many do not bother to see past the surface level so that person doing "lifestyle" looks like they have it all when they do not, whilst one that appears bland may have more than it seems. Although, there are also cases of the person doing "lifestyle" really actually having money and the other person being bland not having the funds there aswell, so I suppose there is that aswell.

With women ignoring the boring guy, men do that aswell. Lots of men when they are on their face no one cares, both men and women ignoring the man and not caring for their struggles. I think it's more a people thing. It's just more pronounced with some women as people pay more attention to womens actions than men in general from my view. As soon as the guy becomes something or a "somebody" they all want to know, some guys want brings in and some women want him for potential benefits. The guy will end up trusting no one.

I have not seen that video, what was the model saying?

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Very valid points. One thing that is hard to knock once income goes up is lifestyle inflation. I have come across people that earn 6 figs on paper but their expenses were too much. Private school for the kids, big mortgage, excessive spending etc. It's all more than meets the eyes. It's unfortunate that many do not bother to see past the surface level so that person doing "lifestyle" looks like they have it all when they do not, whilst one that appears bland may have more than it seems. Although, there are also cases of the person doing "lifestyle" really actually having money and the other person being bland not having the funds there aswell, so I suppose there is that aswell.

I personally don't see it that unfortunate if many people don't bother with the bland person. Personally I don't want to bring in people very materialist and likely want to deal with people who are show offs. And end of the day you can spot them a miles off and if you don't you can tell what a person that guy is once you get to know them.

As for show off guys actually having the money, yes they are out their but I think that is rare to see. Just look at Dan Blitzerman. Recently it was known that his lifestyle was mostly from his trust fund money he got from his Dad rather than being this amazing poker player or business"alpha" man. That and the models were all paid for rather.

With that in mind the amount of bland/struggling guys not having the funds is more common. Just look at the amount of youtube videos on Minimalist life style, minimalist style lookbook, minimalist EDC, minimalist food diet and minimalist etc..... While I don't think the minimalist lifestyle is bad (I think it is good lifestyle take up), the amount of minimalist videos can of tell me it is a big cope as most of these people are doing this lifestyle to survive rather than saving up money. Remember you rarely see rich people living minimalist lifestyle do we?

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With women ignoring the boring guy, men do that aswell. Lots of men when they are on their face no one cares, both men and women ignoring the man and not caring for their struggles. I think it's more a people thing. It's just more pronounced with some women as people pay more attention to womens actions than men in general from my view. As soon as the guy becomes something or a "somebody" they all want to know, some guys want brings in and some women want him for potential benefits. The guy will end up trusting no one.

I agree but I think it is more damaging with women these days. That and I rarely see men fucking over rich guys over that much compared to women fucking over rich guys when they don't get their ways. Especially blue pilled high value guys who aren't to knowledgeable on female nature which I believe most high value guys are blue pilled/left wing in the west. Only thing that guys can do to fuck over a high value guy is either try to do business with that high value guy which either fails or was part of fraud to drain his money, ask the guy money if that high value guy is very generous or drop that high value guy as a friend if he no longer rich (to take you to exclusive events/parties anymore) due to losing the money or getting canceled.

As for women fucking over a high value man they can ask the guy money if that high value guy is very generous as well (this happens more often with amount of rich blue pilled high value guys buying these women gucci bags and etc....), drop that high value guy as a friend/boyfriend if he no longer rich (to take her to exclusive events/parties/holidays/restaurants anymore) due to losing the money or getting canceled, but more commonly some these gold diggers that target these blue pilled high value guys normally metoo that guy, divorce him to take half or let him put a baby in her for that child support once she leave him which both divorce and child support will yielded a lot of money to her for 18 years or life time alimony if these high value guys live in California which most of these high value guys live. Yes finding out a guy you once thought of as a friend actually fucked you over with money or disappeared once you stop giving him money, gone broke or stop taking him to those crazy parties is bad. But being portrayed as a monster due to a false accusation, paying life time alimony to a woman that divorced you who you once thought of as love of your life or never get to see your kids grow up thanks to child support laws is far more painful. And most men don't recover from something like that. 

End of the day the best thing to do is keep you friend circle close, try to keep friends you have grown up, known you before you became high value or are good people close, only invite new people in your inner circle once they past your "friendship test"(e.g. share common interest, got your back, aren't bad people and etc...) and mostly having friends who themselves are high value. That and do what Leonardo DiCaprio/Mike Pence do when dealing with ladies as a high value man. 

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I have not seen that video, what was the model saying?

Man you not seen the video? It is one of his most popular ones beside "your average at best".
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I personally don't see it that unfortunate if many people don't bother with the bland person. Personally I don't want to bring in people very materialist and likely want to deal with people who are show offs. And end of the day you can spot them a miles off and if you don't you can tell what a person that guy is once you get to know them.

As for show off guys actually having the money, yes they are out their but I think that is rare to see. Just look at Dan Blitzerman. Recently it was known that his lifestyle was mostly from his trust fund money he got from his Dad rather than being this amazing poker player or business"alpha" man. That and the models were all paid for rather.

With that in mind the amount of bland/struggling guys not having the funds is more common. Just look at the amount of youtube videos on Minimalist life style, minimalist style lookbook, minimalist EDC, minimalist food diet and minimalist etc..... While I don't think the minimalist lifestyle is bad (I think it is good lifestyle take up), the amount of minimalist videos can of tell me it is a big cope as most of these people are doing this lifestyle to survive rather than saving up money. Remember you rarely see rich people living minimalist lifestyle do we?

I agree but I think it is more damaging with women these days. That and I rarely see men fucking over rich guys over that much compared to women fucking over rich guys when they don't get their ways. Especially blue pilled high value guys who aren't to knowledgeable on female nature which I believe most high value guys are blue pilled/left wing in the west. Only thing that guys can do to fuck over a high value guy is either try to do business with that high value guy which either fails or was part of fraud to drain his money, ask the guy money if that high value guy is very generous or drop that high value guy as a friend if he no longer rich (to take you to exclusive events/parties anymore) due to losing the money or getting canceled.

As for women fucking over a high value man they can ask the guy money if that high value guy is very generous as well (this happens more often with amount of rich blue pilled high value guys buying these women gucci bags and etc....), drop that high value guy as a friend/boyfriend if he no longer rich (to take her to exclusive events/parties/holidays/restaurants anymore) due to losing the money or getting canceled, but more commonly some these gold diggers that target these blue pilled high value guys normally metoo that guy, divorce him to take half or let him put a baby in her for that child support once she leave him which both divorce and child support will yielded a lot of money to her for 18 years or life time alimony if these high value guys live in California which most of these high value guys live. Yes finding out a guy you once thought of as a friend actually fucked you over with money or disappeared once you stop giving him money, gone broke or stop taking him to those crazy parties is bad. But being portrayed as a monster due to a false accusation, paying life time alimony to a woman that divorced you who you once thought of as love of your life or never get to see your kids grow up thanks to child support laws is far more painful. And most men don't recover from something like that. 

End of the day the best thing to do is keep you friend circle close, try to keep friends you have grown up, known you before you became high value or are good people close, only invite new people in your inner circle once they past your "friendship test"(e.g. share common interest, got your back, aren't bad people and etc...) and mostly having friends who themselves are high value. That and do what Leonardo DiCaprio/Mike Pence do when dealing with ladies as a high value man. 

Man you not seen the video? It is one of his most popular ones beside "your average at best".
Here is the link to the video: External Link/Members Only

Dan bilzerian was a big fraud of a poker player. When I went on the poker forums all of them were saying they've never heard of him in the big games in macau. Although the big private games are harder to trace. He was a social media genius though, I've never seen anyone else use instagram the way he did. I've never seen minimalist youtubers, I did not even know that was a thing. I've read of people doing that to get to FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) but I did not know it was a trend. That is shocking, why would anyone want to live with very little on purpose to the point of borderline poverty if they can get more is beyond me. I suppose with womens actions towards rich men you are right there, not really much I can say about that. Fair points.

I watched that Kevin Samuels video just now. She must be trolling she can't be that stupid in real life FFS  :dash:. Her dad is a pastor and she wants a millionaire? She said she deserves money as she is intelligent and then said she is not financially literate. Nahhh LOL, she called for attention, she had too have done.

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Dan bilzerian was a big fraud of a poker player. When I went on the poker forums all of them were saying they've never heard of him in the big games in macau. Although the big private games are harder to trace. He was a social media genius though, I've never seen anyone else use instagram the way he did. I've never seen minimalist youtubers, I did not even know that was a thing. I've read of people doing that to get to FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) but I did not know it was a trend. That is shocking, why would anyone want to live with very little on purpose to the point of borderline poverty if they can get more is beyond me. I suppose with womens actions towards rich men you are right there, not really much I can say about that. Fair points.

I have seen videos of evidence of him buying fake instragram users and focusing most of clients on instragram users instead of actually weed smokers. On top of that during the lockdown he lost lot of money while every other Weed company was making tons of money. Think about that, he lost money during the time were everyone are spending most of their time at home (well supposedly) and when weed smokers got time to smoke weed at home while looking for a job, have time to buy weed products and smoke weed during their break from their remote job.  :lol: :lol: :lol: Some genius.

Yeah minimalist life style is a thing. Not as big but is a thing. Again while a certain number of them are doing it for FIRE reasons while doing midden-high value job for financial independence, many of whom I can tell most of them are coping and doing so for survival from looking at their lifestyle - e.g. paying off debt from a worthless degree, living in big city like London, LA, New York and etc instead of small town or city that don't have high taxes (nor regular everyday goods being more expensive than usual) .... and having a job that won't pay you above £30K - £40K annually on top of all that to have FIRE lifestyle to begin with. Only people that are doing the minimalist lifestyle right is someone like techlead who yes lives in Silicon Valley but use his money wisely. E.g. he don't buy fancy cloths, buys what is needed, lives in a moderately nice flat and is worth around £1 - £2 million.

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I watched that Kevin Samuels video just now. She must be trolling she can't be that stupid in real life FFS  :dash:. Her dad is a pastor and she wants a millionaire? She said she deserves money as she is intelligent and then said she is not financially literate. Nahhh LOL, she called for attention, she had too have done.

I doubt she is trolling. She was same model from a couple of years ago who claimed she was Trans when actually she was not. Was only doing so to to win minority/SJW points and get notice more. So she is known for shit like this. That said ladies like that woman (Afropunk/BLM kind of women) and alternative/goth type ladies are the type of women I like (don't judge - they are bloody good under the sheets). The bad thing is that most these women are Lefties/feminist, broke, have debt from a worthless degree, entitled and some are bat shit crazy like this woman. On the plus side I deal with sane ladies who are moderate/right wing who won't go crazy over going half on a date who are as attractive or better looking than ladies in that Kevin Samuels video.

That said ladies like one in the Kevin Samuels video are growing which is crazy. But from the looks of it I think she is done career wise after that trans issue years ago. No major fashion company want to hire her as she got cancelled as sjw/modern left wing twitter believed her actions was Transphobic/problematic and left to make herself look like a fool in front of Kevin Samuels as she has worthless degree in African history to fall back on.

Anyways the video was funny as hell and another classic Kevin Samuels video. And another reason why we don't deal with women like one in the video for a relationship besides a pump or dump or paying her as an escort for her services  ;).
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Not sure if people have heard of Kevin Samuels but he's been making waves in the US for telling women their standards are not realistic, how they have been misled by feminism and been the voice of average working men everywhere.

always interesting to hear the perspective of the manosphere

he seems to be telling men their expectations are unrealistic too, but I guess thats not a popular opinion to those who took their red pill

do you think his youtube views are really women seeking dating advice or men liking seeing the women taken down a peg or two ?

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always interesting to hear the perspective of the manosphere

he seems to be telling men their expectations are unrealistic too, but I guess thats not a popular opinion to those who took their red pill

do you think his youtube views are really women seeking dating advice or men liking seeing the women taken down a peg or two ?

Yes, he started out with men first but when he focused with women his channel got more traction. I think it is a bit of both, some women seek advice, some women attention, some men are happy to see the women get a reality check and some of both genders probably just watch for the entertainment.

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always interesting to hear the perspective of the manosphere

he seems to be telling men their expectations are unrealistic too, but I guess thats not a popular opinion to those who took their red pill

Yeah he used to do mostly videos geared towards black men but don't anymore. That said it looks like they is some push back on some of red pill talking points mainly from the black pill community. I do agree though that some men have some unrealistic expectations on what women they think they should date or fuck, men age like fine wine without looking after himself nor hitting the gym and to a degree I agree that women who "hit the wall" can still get some attention from the opposite sex unlike most men in their 40's plus who aren't got the 666's (though most of the time the attention is from blue pilled guys and young guys using them for practice as most high value guys want to deal with next hot, young thing. It is only rarely you see one high value guy getting with someone his age or older but that's rare) .

But what I don't agree with the black pill community is that it is over for most men who aren't a Chad or Tyrone as most men can do better by getting fit, dress better and doing the work to improve yourself (though it is kind of over if your in your 50's + and started doing those things at that age and never done any exercises in your life as it is hard to lose that weight in that age nor get your money up at 60). You just have to be realistic though - you won't get 9/10 or 10/10 lady being your girlfriend or be smashing 7/10's or higher everyday like Drake.

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do you think his youtube views are really women seeking dating advice or men liking seeing the women taken down a peg or two ?

I honestly believe that most of the views are from men seeing delusional women taken down a peg or two. Of course they are a few women watching the videos to seek dating advise but let be honest, people are mainly watching these videos to see the latest trainwreck being destroyed by Kevin Samuels (ask Jerry Springer or Jeremy Kyle). If women really want to watch videos about good dating advise they would watch channels like Anthony Spades, Jay de black, Rom Willis and etc who aren't as agressive as Kevin Samuels and more informative that most Kevin Samuels youtube video (though I think Kevin Samuels private videos is more geared on one on one advise). But I honestly think women know how to have a good relationship but they choice not to as society don't give them accountability to their mistakes (while till they hit the wall).
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Yes, he started out with men first but when he focused with women his channel got more traction. I think it is a bit of both, some women seek advice, some women attention, some men are happy to see the women get a reality check and some of both genders probably just watch for the entertainment.

Payyourwaymate. Have you heard of the recent drama with Kevin Samuals? Apparently the haters claim he has abuse his ex wife, don't have an actually business (which is only claim that has some legs), don't pay child support and a dead beat father. Don't know anything about the claims being true but it sad that the haters are dragging up what ever they can find to make Kevin Samuels look like a fool and lock him up (one of the haters want him to go to jail for sharing his opionon) and attack him instead of using evidence and facts to debunk him.

I mean last time I was at his livestream and debunked him with others on marriage statistics we got him shock as we used evidence and data. But these haters going at him like this is only making them look bad. And it's mostly black women doing this.

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Payyourwaymate. Have you heard of the recent drama with Kevin Samuals? Apparently the haters claim he has abuse his ex wife, don't have an actually business (which is only claim that has some legs), don't pay child support and a dead beat father. Don't know anything about the claims being true but it sad that the haters are dragging up what ever they can find to make Kevin Samuels look like a fool and lock him up (one of the haters want him to go to jail for sharing his opionon) and attack him instead of using evidence and facts to debunk him.

I mean last time I was at his livestream and debunked him with others on marriage statistics we got him shock as we used evidence and data. But these haters going at him like this is only making them look bad. And it's mostly black women doing this.

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I had no idea. Those people are just looking for clout and trying to tear him down as he does not push the general narrative that men should just be happy with their situations no matter how shit it is and their struggles mean nothing compared to the oppression women constantly face in "1st world/western" countries. People done the same thing with Jordan Peterson the moment they deemed he did not fit their snowflake ideologies. I think he'll get through it, alot of people have energy over the internet but will not carry that same energy in real life lol.
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I had no idea. Those people are just looking for clout and trying to tear him down as he does not push the general narrative that men should just be happy with their situations no matter how shit it is and their struggles mean nothing compared to the oppression women constantly face in "1st world/western" countries. People done the same thing with Jordan Peterson the moment they deemed he did not fit their snowflake ideologies. I think he'll get through it, alot of people have energy over the internet but will not carry that same energy in real life lol.

That's very true. But I will hold my judgement till the evidence comes (if any evidence comes for that matter).

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This discussion and how Kevin Samuels ripped them to shreds is great. These entitled modern "feminists" are delusional, cannot back up their arguments, it's all emotions, Kevin Samuels laying down straight facts and all they can do is deflect from the original point.

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This discussion and how Kevin Samuels ripped them to shreds is great. These entitled modern "feminists" are delusional, cannot back up their arguments, it's all emotions, Kevin Samuels laying down straight facts and all they can do is deflect from the original point.

Yes I seen this video. All those women on that live stream are a mess and only useful for a pump and dump frankly. Alpha Female my ass. If I hear a woman calming such things it indicates to me that she is a pain in a ass and someone to not get into an relationship.

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Yes I seen this video. All those women on that live stream are a mess and only useful for a pump and dump frankly. Alpha Female my ass. If I hear a woman calming such things it indicates to me that she is a pain in a ass and someone to not get into an relationship.

13:50 was point where it hits, I had a similar discussion with a civvie on how easy we have it living in a 1st world country, also the point he made on the modern woman especially those in their 30s being damaged goods, they wonder why men don't want to settle down now, especially since a lot of these women on the dating marketplace have high body counts, abortions, mental issues to go with their tattoos and brightly coloured hair etc...they try to pass themselves off as new fresh virgins lol. Their high paid jobs and degrees has no value to us, means nothing to what we want from a gf/wife.

Modern feminism is women having their cake and eating it.

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13:50 was point where it hits, I had a similar discussion with a civvie on how easy we have it living in a 1st world country, also the point he made on the modern woman especially those in their 30s being damaged goods, they wonder why men don't want to settle down now, especially since a lot of these women on the dating marketplace have high body counts, abortions, mental issues to go with their tattoos and brightly coloured hair etc...they try to pass themselves off as new fresh virgins lol. Their high paid jobs and degrees has no value to us, means nothing to what we want from a gf/wife.

Modern feminism is women having their cake and eating it.

Indeed. I would add that women having this entitled attitude like on the show is a big turn off as well. But the biggest turn off which I mentioned on another thread is marrying these women then having sex on tape all of sudden turned off after first few years of marriage then get divorced after 8 years of marriage because she feel unhappy and want her party years back before her looks goes. Which result into losing half of your earnings and not seeing your kids that often anymore. All three of those women on the show would do that with the men they would marry (if any man would marry such women).

End of the day what is the point of dating these type of "alpha" Women who will likely make your life miserable.

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Sorry to bring this up but I been watching Dayz of Noah recent videos on Kevin Samuels.

Unlike the usually beta/simp/feminist criticism of Kevin Samuel which never attack his talking points/arguments/view points well but always attack his history, age, race, past mistakes and anything surface level, the guys in the Dayz of Noah actually give great constructive criticism on Kevin Samuel's High value man view point and his arguments in a society that rather us each other for our own needs instead of build something together. E.g. Kevin Samuel's saying that High value man can cheat but women can't which if you know me I am against and find it funny that he is saying that while promoting marriage.

“Part of masculinity is being productive. Part of masculinity is being able to survive. Part of masculinity is being able to be bold, be courageous, overcome adversity, and persevere. And not have this spirit of weakness of fear. Women are going to be drawn to that. Hardships in my life have actually made me realize things about myself that improved me as a man. The byproduct of that is that women value who I've become.” —Spiritual Logic aka Hulk

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I've never really agreed with his perspective on a "high value man". I value people for their character more so personally, not their credentials. He on the otherhand comes from a more strigent material criteria of what can the man do? What can they provide? Who do they know? Do they have a superfical status of "power" in their social circle or society? It's more tangible what he places on the value of a "high value man". There are plenty of men with good characters that do not earn the 1% salary range or are in positions of power, or have a high power social network to make "power moves" and they are better on a character basis than a lot of these so called "high value men" that people would look at which put the world into shit i.e the last recession, politicians carrying on fukery with corruption, disconnect with general society etc. Does it now mean these men are "low value"? No, and you can see when he always defends the "average" hard working man against anyone that bashes them he does place great importance in the normal hard working guy. However, I think all this high value theory is just a feature of his brand. I would not let someone tell me if I am high value or not, I'll tell them to fuck off with that shit.

I think some of his audience confuse his overall message with his exclaimation of what makes a man "high value" and forget that group of men have been shown to be more likely to exhibit borderline sociopathic behaviours or have some sort of antisocial characteristics to get to such a position lol. I wish I could find the study for it, I know I read a few sources in the past stating similar conclusions. Not everyone can be a "high value man" of his criteria, firstly...there is not enough 6 figure jobs to go around LOL. As for cheating on women, I think what he means by they can cheat is that they are more likely to get away with it as the woman may depend on him financially or just plain flat out cannot get another man of that caliber, not in terms of character; but in terms of what the man can provide from a tangible standpoint.

He is not promoting marriage for men specifically, he seems to be promoting it for the community of black people, in order to raise nuclear families which would promote better development of individuals than the ones that come from a single parent household. It's a bit different in the US where it's known the "black family" and black people in general have faced serious obstacles of being undermined and marginalised, going back from discriminatory policies and gov interventions ect from way back when slavery ended in the US until now. To now the common scenario in black households being single parent households where their kids may not do as well as those from two parent households.  Anyone with a brain knows that marriage in the US is worse than going to prison if it goes wrong and you have kids. If anything he's trying to help black women more now than men.

I think Kevin samuels target audience is not men as a whole anymore. It's the black community, it just so happens subject matters on what he talks about overlaps which allows other demographics of men and women to also tune in.
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As for cheating on women, I think what he means by they can cheat is that they are more likely to get away with it as the woman may depend on him financially or just plain flat out cannot get another man of that caliber, not in terms of character; but in terms of what the man can provide from a tangible standpoint.


Men cheat as we succumb to our primal urges, men have the urge to go out and fuck as we have the hunting instinct. Saw a good point about this on the F&F podcast, about traditional marriages, yes a man may cheat but is still carrying out his role as the provider, main breadwinner, making saw everything is in check in the household and the wife can live an easy life. When you look at high earning men say a football player, they cheat like crazy, the wife's know it but are so accustomed to the life they have, they would rather turn a blind eye to it rather than go through the hassle of breaking that up.

When a woman cheats it is more emotional, having been 'the other guy' and listened to all the woman had to say on her dying relationship and deadbeat bf I could understand the why.

In most traditional cultures where marriage is a big thing it is expected for a man to have a mistress or 2 as long as he is providing for the household this is not an issue.

The amount of people coming after KS because of his new found fame and success is crazy.

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I suppose this is an example of what kevin samuels is talking about, in terms of delusional individuals.

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I've never really agreed with his perspective on a "high value man". I value people for their character more so personally, not their credentials. He on the otherhand comes from a more strigent material criteria of what can the man do? What can they provide? Who do they know? Do they have a superfical status of "power" in their social circle or society? It's more tangible what he places on the value of a "high value man". There are plenty of men with good characters that do not earn the 1% salary range or are in positions of power, or have a high power social network to make "power moves" and they are better on a character basis than a lot of these so called "high value men" that people would look at which put the world into shit i.e the last recession, politicians carrying on fukery with corruption, disconnect with general society etc. Does it now mean these men are "low value"? No, and you can see when he always defends the "average" hard working man against anyone that bashes them he does place great importance in the normal hard working guy. However, I think all this high value theory is just a feature of his brand. I would not let someone tell me if I am high value or not, I'll tell them to fuck off with that shit.

I think some of his audience confuse his overall message with his exclaimation of what makes a man "high value" and forget that group of men have been shown to be more likely to exhibit borderline sociopathic behaviours or have some sort of antisocial characteristics to get to such a position lol. I wish I could find the study for it, I know I read a few sources in the past stating similar conclusions. Not everyone can be a "high value man" of his criteria, firstly...there is not enough 6 figure jobs to go around LOL. As for cheating on women, I think what he means by they can cheat is that they are more likely to get away with it as the woman may depend on him financially or just plain flat out cannot get another man of that caliber, not in terms of character; but in terms of what the man can provide from a tangible standpoint.

He is not promoting marriage for men specifically, he seems to be promoting it for the community of black people, in order to raise nuclear families which would promote better development of individuals than the ones that come from a single parent household. It's a bit different in the US where it's known the "black family" and black people in general have faced serious obstacles of being undermined and marginalised, going back from discriminatory policies and gov interventions ect from way back when slavery ended in the US until now. To now the common scenario in black households being single parent households where their kids may not do as well as those from two parent households.  Anyone with a brain knows that marriage in the US is worse than going to prison if it goes wrong and you have kids. If anything he's trying to help black women more now than men.

I think Kevin samuels target audience is not men as a whole anymore. It's the black community, it just so happens subject matters on what he talks about overlaps which allows other demographics of men and women to also tune in.

Fair enough I just feel people are taking this “high value man” thing to much. Both male and female. But I agree that if your are looking for such a man or women you will need to reach their stringent criteria. As you see, many males understand that and try to reach those criteria’s for a high value female but from the KS videos most women don’t get it and get offended when asked what they bring to the table to get such a man. They expect to have this man no matter what which is crazy and just shows that most women have a totally different view of life compared to men which is scary. And instead of settling with a man of good character that earn a decent amount of money they ignore him or worst marry him for security reasons (not love as he was likely her only option left) then divorce him ruining his life.

Funny you mention that most of the high value men are politicians as these will be same politicians that most these feminist hate but somehow want to be with. Anyways yeah KS does put some respect to the average hard working man as he being doing that even before him blowing up. He only bashes the guys that refuse to put in the work and act like the females on the show. Funny how some of his critics say he never give the same smoke to males but when actually he does.

I will say it is ok to try and reach the high value man mark as even if you fail to reach it, you still be making high 5 figures (£75K – £90K) and from studies I read (same like you I can’t find it) most people happiness don’t increase past £75K in earnings for most people. That and you can invest and save some of that money to earn more, make that money work for you and finally reach that past £100K in your bank account. That said I do think they are enough 6 figure jobs/businesses about. Certain fields like IT/computer programming and etc… don’t have many high level people in that field that people would be happy pay you a large amount of money to help them. It just that it is hard to get those jobs which is reason for not many people doing those jobs.

To the cheating thing, I think KS should of said he don’t agree with it or find it wrong from that video. He just came off like most manosphere guys saying its ok for a man to cheat and it is not morally wrong but if a woman cheat she is a whore. I understand that men and female are not the same but it is still a double standard. That said I understand why husband would cheat if the wife decides to not have sex with him anymore like most guys on UKP in similar situations. But I think KS thinking is old thinking. Divorce is still a thing and if wife of this high value man gets evidence of him cheating, the courts will be happy to destroy him and give her large % of his money. And these women will likely do such a thing after 10 years of marriage to get that sweet alimony.

Jet keep it real. Women these days can find ways to support themselves financially without a man. Whether or not they are happy doing it all by themselves or settling with a man they don’t really like/love is another thing. Only high value man that can get away with it is the single high value man which I sure KS would not approve or believe such man exist. But even then that single high value man can get metoo or tricked into getting a woman pregnant if he don’t do his background checks on these women.
Moving on. I understand why KS is promoting marriage for black community as like you said raising the nuclear family rate would help blacks a lot which I 100% agree with. But I honestly think Black community is over. Just look at the last USA election and BLM movement. Blacks supported BLM, a group of females that think that nuclear family is evil and part of the evil white patriarchy. And if KS is getting most of the smoke for pointing facts but BLM is not for using a died black man to buy mansions for herself and her family, then I don’t see how KS can fix the black community alone.
I just hope the black men like myself and you PYOWM will listen to the core message of KS though.


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I suppose this is an example of what kevin samuels is talking about, in terms of delusional individuals.

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Bruh I remember watching this video. That woman don't know what she is talking about and is a P&D at best. I mean she said what she bring to the table is usually BS that don't equal  what a high value man brings.

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I wonder if Kevin Samuels will say anything about this.

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She used the NBA player for a baby and split as soon as the kid was born. Hard times for him, 18 years, 18 years... :dash:.

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She used the NBA player for a baby and split as soon as the kid was born. Hard times for him, 18 years, 18 years... :dash:.

I know. Why would right minded person would put a baby in Brittany Renner in USA?

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I know. Why would right minded person would put a baby in Brittany Renner in USA?

According to the comments she swooped him when he was 18 and fresh in the NBA like a predator. She's got it made now, never needs to work an office job or any sort of job again, the NBA child support money will have her living nice. Poor guy, I would say he did not know any better and a lack of guidance, now he's stuck with a harpy for life. She's a known 304 lol.



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According to the comments she swooped him when he was 18 and fresh in the NBA like a predator. She's got it made now, never needs to work an office job or any sort of job again, the NBA child support money will have her living nice. Poor guy, I would say he did not know any better and a lack of guidance, now he's stuck with a harpy for life. She's a known 304 lol.



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Have to agree but it's 18 years child support. 18 year is long but child support does end. He will just need to focus on his basketball career and use his money wisely as Britney and child support courts will be on his ass for 18 years.

That is unless he married Britney Renner which then he is truly fucked if he was married in California for example.

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She used the NBA player for a baby and split as soon as the kid was born. Hard times for him, 18 years, 18 years... :dash:.

It’s sad that there are women out there treat this as a business and not having a family life.

I’m sure he was warned about her, he ignored it and now regards it. I won’t be harsh on him because his only 22 years old if he was in his 30’s I won’t have sympathy for him and it will be his fault for not picking a right women.

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It’s sad that there are women out there treat this as a business and not having a family life.

I’m sure he was warned about her, he ignored it and now regards it. I won’t be harsh on him because his only 22 years old if he was in his 30’s I won’t have sympathy for him and it will be his fault for not picking a right women.

I am very sure he was warned too, she's well known for her activities. She even wrote a book telling all her stories called "judge this cover". I think NBA players get sessions on how to avoid women that seek them only for money and how to deal with the pitfalls of the lifestyle because it got so bad.  She really just preyed on him as a young male at 18 who did not know any better and played the long game with him. A shame really.

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Is this what Kevin Samuels meant when he said winter is coming I wonder.

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Comments from a site on a subject matter related to what Kevin Samuels talks about now but these comments were before he blew up with his discussions and on a completely different platform years ago.

"There is something seriously wrong with modern Western culture where women (especially educated and intelligent women who should be contributing to the gene pool) put off marriage until their window of fertility is gone or almost gone. … Western women seem to think they have all the time in the world so they spend their 20s and 30s pursuing education and career and avoiding long term committed relationships. But they don’t – life is short and the window of fertility (not to mention the age of peak attractiveness to mates) even shorter. Feminist ideology has convinced women that they can do everything that men can do (and if they can’t it’s only due to sexism) but biology doesn’t care about feminism."


"These women show poor life-planning strategies. But in fairness to them, they were just following the pre-ordained feminist narrative they are told to follow. The next generation (current 20-somethings) is going to be absolutely devastated by the time they reach their late 30s. The logical conclusion for all of this is a complete breakdown number of marriages, a society fillled with state-sponsorsed single mothers, a batchelor tax on single men to get them to pay for these single mothers, and a lot of very sexually frustrated beta and omega males. It won’t be pretty."

"If I wanted to commit genocide against a population the first thing I would do would be to encourage their women to pursue high debt college degrees in their fertile years while handicapping the men in employment via an affirmative action type program. Then I would push for laws to make birth control free and push TV shows that show how "happy" single 40 year old women are while they pursue imaginary careers in manhattan for women’s fashion magazines all while being pursued by high income tall attractive men… just like Sex and the City come to think of it….. I would then pass laws that make it insane for any man to marry. … I would also then push for open borders of higher fertility populations to finish them off….. This is how I would commit genocide against a group i didn’t like…"

"Sure men like young women. Duh. Women like young men too. A 55 year old man wants to get young women but he can’t unless he’s rich. So young women may have sex with him but secretly hate him. All these men who think that they are sexually attractive to females forever are delusional. Men have an expiration date as well. … Young women are attracted to young, virile males because they produce healthy offspring. All these women who have children with older men compromise the health of their offspring. In the wild, healthy young males get to have all the females. Old bucks are driven out. That’s life."

I guess KS is only reinventing the wheel with his delivery.

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According to the comments she swooped him when he was 18 and fresh in the NBA like a predator. She's got it made now, never needs to work an office job or any sort of job again, the NBA child support money will have her living nice. Poor guy, I would say he did not know any better and a lack of guidance, now he's stuck with a harpy for life. She's a known 304 lol.



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She got $200K a month for the next 18 years in child support. She's made it LOL. The guy done no research, there was even a video where she states if you want to make money fuck a dumb rich athlete, how did he not see it :lol:.

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She got $200K a month for the next 18 years in child support. She's made it LOL. The guy done no research, there was even a video where she states if you want to make money fuck a dumb rich athlete, how did he not see it :lol:.

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Hopefully it's fake news in terms of the amount, though it is very possible.

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She got $200K a month for the next 18 years in child support. She's made it LOL. The guy done no research, there was even a video where she states if you want to make money fuck a dumb rich athlete, how did he not see it :lol:.

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If that is true, the guy is done for unless he becomes the big NBA Star making a couple of £10milliion per year. Though the child support could always increase it if Britney decides to. Yeah he should of done his research as they are tons of videos of her saying how many dudes she has sleep with, her writing a WHOLE BOOK about her bedroom actions and saying how mean those men were  :lol: :lol: :lol: or seeing what kind of people she was hanging about. I mean one of her best friends is a porn star (Teanna Trump). Remember Birds of a feather flock together in regards to women. 

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If that is true, the guy is done for unless he becomes the big NBA Star making a couple of £10milliion per year. Though the child support could always increase it if Britney decides to. Yeah he should of done his research as they are tons of videos of her saying how many dudes she has sleep with, her writing a WHOLE BOOK about her bedroom actions and saying how mean those men were  :lol: :lol: :lol: or seeing what kind of people she was hanging about. I mean one of her best friends is a porn star (Teanna Trump). Remember Birds of a feather flock together in regards to women.

Either way he is screwed, child support payments in the US can ruin any man no matter how much they earn, especially if they are in a state which favours the mother who usually has primary custody of the child to give the maximum allowance. Too many men have been thrown into prison due to not making payments even if they could not afford it genuinely. Some states are more draconian than others in terms of alimony, custody, payments etc so time will tell what happens.

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Either way he is screwed, child support payments in the US can ruin any man no matter how much they earn, especially if they are in a state which favours the mother who usually has primary custody of the child to give the maximum allowance. Too many men have been thrown into prison due to not making payments even if they could not afford it genuinely. Some states are more draconian than others in terms of alimony, custody, payments etc so time will tell what happens.

100% agree I here you. One thing I do want to know, is that NBA basketball player from California or a liberal state? If so I believe he will be more screwed than having a regular child support at any other USA state.

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100% agree I here you. One thing I do want to know, is that NBA basketball player from California or a liberal state? If so I believe he will be more screwed than having a regular child support at any other USA state.

The team he plays for is based in the state of North Carolina, he was born in the Kentucky state when I had a quick look. I am sure that plantiffs can sue defendants on what state they reside but were not born in so I am not sure what the implications of being in that state are in terms of payment consequences in relation to child support to be honest.

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"States offer financial incentives to have children with multiple partners, to marry and divorce multiple partners, and to have children with high-income sex partners who are already married. This is sometimes characterized as an attack on human tradition, but from a genetic point of view this is helping to return the human race to its origins. "Genetic Evidence for Unequal Effective Population Sizes of Human Females and Males" (Wilder, et al. 2004; Molecular Biology and Evolution, 21:11) concludes that the ratio of females to males in our genetic history is roughly 2:1. In other words, for every 100 women who had at least one baby there were only 50 men whose genetic material has survived. Assuming that fewer than 100 percent of women were able to have a child, that means more than half of men never reproduced. "A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture" (Karmin, et al. 2015; Genome Research) suggests that, 8000 years ago, the ratio was as high as 17:1.

The era of "there's someone for everyone," a prohibition on polygamy, and people pairing up for life meant that many women were precluded from having children with the partners of their choice, e.g., because the chosen partner was already married to a different woman and there was no reliable mechanism for getting financial compensation for an out-of-wedlock child. An anthropologist told us that "rising divorce rates turned the U.S. into what is effectively a polygamous society. The higher-quality males will have multiple female partners and sets of children, but serially rather than in parallel. The lower-quality males will have their babies aborted, if they are even conceived in the first place."

Statistics support the theory that removing the stigma against single parenting and enacting a reliable system of child support guidelines and enforcement enables women to reject low-income men. For example, "The Marriage Gap: The Impact of Economic and Technological Change on Marriage Rates" (Greenstone and Looney 2012; Brookings) notes that 83 percent of men who were among the top 10 percent of earners in 2010 were married (it was 95 percent in 1970) while only 50 percent of men at the 25th percentile of earnings were married, compared to 86 percent in 1970. The authors note that "while the share of men who have been divorced has increased across the earnings distribution, an increase in the share of men who have never been married is the largest contributor to lower marriage rates."

"I've never understood why a woman planning children would marry a low-income father," said one attorney. "If she has a kid with a successful guy who's already married, her claim to his income will take precedence over the wife and kids' claims. What's not to like about that deal?"

The source is not kevin samuels but topic area is similar. The source is from real world divorce.

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The Effects of Paternal Disengagement on Women’s Sexual Decision
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"An abundance of research demonstrates a robust association between father absence— or low-quality paternal involvement—and daughters’ accelerated sexual development, promiscuity, and sexual risk taking. Although recent natural experiments provide support for fathers playing a causal role in these outcomes, these effects have not been examined using a randomized experimental design to eliminate genetic and environmental confounds inherent in previous studies. We redressed this empirical gap by experimentally testing the effects of primed paternal disengagement cues on women’s sexual decision making. Across 5 experiments, reminders of paternal disengagement increased women’s activation of sexual thoughts (Experiment 1), sexual permissiveness (Experiments 2-4), and negativity toward condom use (Experiment 5). Moreover, these effects were specific to women’s sexual decision making, as paternal disengagement cues failed to influence women’s willingness to take nonsexual risks (Experiment 4) or men’s risky sexual attitudes (Experiment 5). These results provide the first true experimental evidence supporting a causal relationship between paternal disengagement and changes in women’s psychology that promote risky sexual behavior."


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According to the comments she swooped him when he was 18 and fresh in the NBA like a predator. She's got it made now, never needs to work an office job or any sort of job again, the NBA child support money will have her living nice. Poor guy, I would say he did not know any better and a lack of guidance, now he's stuck with a harpy for life. She's a known 304 lol.





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Off The Record: Brittany Renner Goes Ballistic When Answering Claims of Trapping PJ Washington!

Can't lie I was laughing the whole time.

I can't stand her now. Imagine if the gender was reverse and Brittany Renner was a man doing what she is doing today? World would go crazy.

But somehow we give her a past for trapping talented young men (potential future sport stars) with child support. Also I don't see how guys find her attractive. Ok she has a nice ass but her face is not all that (especially without her make up) and has terrible personality. 

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I can't stand her now. Imagine if the gender was reverse and Brittany Renner was a man doing what she is doing today? World would go crazy.

But somehow we give her a past for trapping talented young men (potential future sport stars) with child support. Also I don't see how guys find her attractive. Ok she has a nice ass but her face is not all that (especially without her make up) and has terrible personality.

I fully agree. She made some valid points funnily enough. I'm sure so many guys told him and showed videos of her talking about who to trap and how to trap men. She did not hide who she was  :lol:. Does not change the foulness of her actions though.  I just want to know who called her R shelly 😂😂😂

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Just found out Kevin Samuels is dead. Damn. RIP.

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