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In most newspapers today pictures of a very attractive, sexy looking blonde teacher, found guilty of having sex with a 15 years old male pupil.

You'll all have your own ideas about these reports.

All I know is that when I was 15,  that was probably one of my biggest fantasies, except for the fact that Miss Snodgrass and Miss Witherspoon were definitely more akin to Ann Widdecombe.
In the unlikely event that anyone else remembers Miss Snodgrass and Miss Witherspoon, you'll know which school I attended :unknown:

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Offline mr.bluesky

Why do these teachers never learn that when they shag a schoolboy and send him topless pictures of themselves it's all gonna come out into the open. The first thing he will do is brag about it to his mates who won't believe him until they've seen the evidence so he shows them the photos who will share them round with all and sundry and now the cats out of the bag. You have to think that modern day teachers are not that bright.  :dash: What's even more remarkable is that her soft sap of a husband is standing by her whilst the shit hits the fan. :wacko:
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Offline george r

When I was at school most female teachers were boilers, but one or two were  fit enough to wank over  :thumbsup:

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about 40 years ago, a female teacher observed to me that many female teachers had a thing about their male pupils, seems she was right,  though  this lady is a teaching assistant i think, teenagers are terrible blabbermouths.

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Although I'd experienced all the usual fumbles, fiddles,gropes and knee tremblers with girls in my early teens, my first pathetic attempt at intercourse as a 15 year old was when I as seduced by a 20 years old girl from the Girl Guides called Rhona (but known as Flossie The Bike), who took me to the local football field by a railway embankment one night.

Of course it was doomed to failure. Being the young gentleman, I placed my new grey shorty coat on the mud for her to lie on, but as expected, as soon as she pulled my cock out I ejaculated all over the inside of my coat, just as the 9.30 Liverpool to London express steamed past illuminating my total embarrassment.
God knows how I explained all the mud and snail tracks to my mum the next day.

I wonder how many lads reading those media reports about those glamorous young teachers would think...'wish that was me?'
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Offline The0neAnd0nly

I remember a English teacher at our school who was a absolute tease.

Low cut tops, revealing skirts and knee high boots and tights. She she also a terrible flirt borderline inappropriate. We always used to joke she wanted to shag a student but nothing has come out... yet!

Of course all the lads fantasised about her back then and we still talk about her now. However whether anything would have ever happened i seriously doubt it.

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We  had  a  similar   over-dolled one  at  Fettes  College  in  Edinburgh    >  Frenh  A  Level teacher  called  "Tartie  "  and  she  looked  like  one  of  the  WG  s  in  Down  and  Out  In  Paris  and  London .
Bizarrely  ,  I  usually  sat  next  to  Tilda  Swinton  in  that  class  ,  and the  combination  of these two  early  sexual  stimulations  has  left me where  I am  now  ....    confused  and  bereft  of   amy  concept  of  femal beauty
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Well played to the 15 yr old involved

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The kid should start playing the lottery as soon as he is 16.

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We  had  a  similar   over-dolled one  at  Fettes  College  in  Edinburgh    >  Frenh  A  Level teacher  called  "Tartie  "  and  she  looked  like  one  of  the  WG  s  in  Down  and  Out  In  Paris  and  London .
Bizarrely  ,  I  usually  sat  next  to  Tilda  Swinton  in  that  class  ,  and the  combination  of these two  early  sexual  stimulations  has  left me where  I am  now  ....    confused  and  bereft  of   amy  concept  of  femal beauty
 :cry:

.”......  left me where  I am  now  ....    confused  and  bereft  of   any  concept  of  female beauty”

A bit like your school buddy Blair (major)




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The official viewpoint is that the lad was raped.  Technically of course.
You either go along with that, or take the view that it's entirely different to a male teacher taking advantage of a 15 yr old girl.
I take the latter view.

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yes ...  claim  to  fame  that  Tony  Blair  also  lived  in  Carrington  House ,  Fettes  , and   I  vividly  recall  being  locked  up  every night  in  a 20-bed  dormitory with  little  sleep  due  to  the  creakings  ,  groans  and  fantasy   moans  of  so  many  frustrated   ( abused  ?)  adolescents   ....and  then exposed  to  Tilda Swinton all  day   ,  already  5  foot  11  in  height    ( and  not  dissimilar  to  Shrek  in  many  ways )  ...  wonder  what  percentage  of  us  were subject  to  the institutionalisation  of  The  British Public  School  ? 
Not  going   into anything   here  about  Bedales  School  , QE 2  The  Second's  nephew ,  niece  and  Lawrence  Oliviers*  Ted  Hughes    etc   .....
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The official viewpoint is that the lad was raped.  Technically of course.
You either go along with that, or take the view that it's entirely different to a male teacher taking advantage of a 15 yr old girl.
I take the latter view.

Technically no. Rape involves penetration of the mouth vagina or anus by a penis and without consent. Only someone with a penis can rape someone.

All other offences be it male or female fall under various categories of Section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003. External Link/Members Only

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We  had  a  similar   over-dolled one  at  Fettes  College  in  Edinburgh    >  Frenh  A  Level teacher  called  "Tartie  "  and  she  looked  like  one  of  the  WG  s  in  Down  and  Out  In  Paris  and  London .
Bizarrely  ,  I  usually  sat  next  to  Tilda  Swinton  in  that  class  ,  and the  combination  of these two  early  sexual  stimulations  has  left me where  I am  now  ....    confused  and  bereft  of   amy  concept  of  femal beauty
 :cry:

You never went to Fettes, you can't even spell the word French correctly. Stop taking the piss!    :rolleyes:

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The official viewpoint is that the lad was raped.  Technically of course.
You either go along with that, or take the view that it's entirely different to a male teacher taking advantage of a 15 yr old girl.
I take the latter view.

Had it been a 15 year old girl most on here would have been calling for the death penalty.    :unknown: :unknown:

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I wonder if her sentence will mirror that of a male teacher in the same situation.
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Offline The0neAnd0nly

Had it been a 15 year old girl most on here would have been calling for the death penalty.    :unknown: :unknown:

Oh its completely wrong regardless of whether the perpetrator was a Male or Female. I was just speaking about my experience as a youth and how attractive some teachers were as a schoolboy fantasy. Its not even a guy thing as even schoolgirls found some teachers hot whatever.

I wonder if this was happening as much back then or is it something becoming more of a issue over the last 10 or 15 years. Its certainly in the news more but is that because its actually happening more or now more people are coming forward? (as they rightly should)

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A sixth former from the comprehensive school I went to married the music teacher, there were rumours of an affair and they did marry as soon as he left school. That was 35 years ago and they are still together

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I wonder if her sentence will mirror that of a male teacher in the same situation.

Broadly yes although sentencing is complex and difficult to compare 'like with like' because of the categories within the guidelines in terms of the sexual activity. External Link/Members Only

The reports are a little confusing, but from what I can gather she has been found guilty of one charge of abuse of position of trust sexual activity with a child. The position of trust means that proof of consent or otherwise is irrelevant. The maximum sentence is 5 years.

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President Macron married his teacher Brigitte, she is 24 years older than him, but their relationship never started until he left school, so no big deal.

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I wonder if this was happening as much back then or is it something becoming more of a issue over the last 10 or 15 years. Its certainly in the news more but is that because its actually happening more or now more people are coming forward? (as they rightly should)

It mirrors the rise in the scale of importance of child protection generally. This has to cover anyone in a position of trust with under 18s  ... be it residential, healthcare, education or sport etc. Anyone who works in such positions of trust will be well aware of the potential consequences.


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Broadly yes although sentencing is complex and difficult to compare 'like with like' because of the categories within the guidelines in terms of the sexual activity. External Link/Members Only

The reports are a little confusing, but from what I can gather she has been found guilty of one charge of abuse of position of trust sexual activity with a child. The position of trust means that proof of consent or otherwise is irrelevant. The maximum sentence is 5 years.

Thanks will be interesting to compare when she is sentenced,I'm always amazed a grown woman finds boys attractive though and her husband needs his head looking at.
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Had it been a 15 year old girl most on here would have been calling for the death penalty.    :unknown: :unknown:

Exactly, Jim.

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60  years  ago  ,  most  "  ordinary  "   people  in  England  could  not  understand  why  anyone  would  find  a member  of  the  opposite  sex  attractive  and  felt  that  homosexuality  was  abominable   and  criminal   .  In  the  USSR   -  one  of  the  highest  literacy  rates  and  sophistication   in the  world  ,  (   making  England  look  like  a nation  of  Morlocks   !!!   )    ....  in  the  USSR    ,  homosexuality  was  illegal  until 1993  ..

So  I  wonder how people  can  be  so  narrow  minded  about  a  15  year  old  finding  a  35  year  old  attractive  and   vice  versa  ....   why  is there currently  such  a  huge  interest  in this  topic,

Are  people   who  obsess  over  the  Mail  , Telegraph ,  Sun  and  Express   projecting  their   Freudianly  submerged  pedophilia  tendencies   ,  or  is  it  that  everything  is relative  and  particularily with  sex / gender /  sexuality  .....   We  know  that  " morality " is  culturally  constructed   and   that it   changes  radically  with  each  epoch  or  century . If  they  were   simply  in  love  and  erotically  attracted  ,  is  that  a problem  and one  would  hope  they  did  not  break  the  law  by  having  sex  !
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60  years  ago  ,  most  "  ordinary  "   people  in  England  could  not  understand  why  anyone  would  find  a member  of  the  opposite  sex  attractive  and  felt  that  homosexuality  was  abominable   and  criminal   .  In  the  USSR   -  one  of  the  highest  literacy  rates  and  sophistication   in the  world  ,  (   making  England  look  like  a nation  of  Morlocks   !!!   )    ....  in  the  USSR    ,  homosexuality  was  illegal  until 1993  ..

So  I  wonder how people  can  be  so  narrow  minded  about  a  15  year  old  finding  a  35  year  old  attractive  and   vice  versa  ....   why  is there currently  such  a  huge  interest  in this  topic,

Are  people   who  obsess  over  the  Mail  , Telegraph ,  Sun  and  Express   projecting  their   Freudianly  submerged  pedophilia  tendencies   ,  or  is  it  that  everything  is relative  and  particularily with  sex / gender /  sexuality  .....   We  know  that  " morality " is  culturally  constructed   and   that it   changes  radically  with  each  epoch  or  century . If  they  were   simply  in  love  and  erotically  attracted  ,  is  that  a problem  and one  would  hope  they  did  not  break  the  law  by  having  sex  !

Not sure I understand you, but are you saying pedophilia is ok?

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Not sure I understand you, but are you saying pedophilia is ok?

That's how I read it also....

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Not sure I understand you, but are you saying pedophilia is ok?

Have they called her a pedophile?

I don't recall. But if they have they are wrong, as they are about Epstein and they were about footballer Adam Johnson. The lad was 15 not 10.  :dash:

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60  years  ago  ,  most  "  ordinary  "   people  in  England  could  not  understand  why  anyone  would  find  a member  of  the  opposite  sex  attractive  and  felt  that  homosexuality  was  abominable   and  criminal   .  In  the  USSR   -  one  of  the  highest  literacy  rates  and  sophistication   in the  world  ,  (   making  England  look  like  a nation  of  Morlocks   !!!   )    ....  in  the  USSR    ,  homosexuality  was  illegal  until 1993  ..

So  I  wonder how people  can  be  so  narrow  minded  about  a  15  year  old  finding  a  35  year  old  attractive  and   vice  versa  ....   why  is there currently  such  a  huge  interest  in this  topic,

Are  people   who  obsess  over  the  Mail  , Telegraph ,  Sun  and  Express   projecting  their   Freudianly  submerged  pedophilia  tendencies   ,  or  is  it  that  everything  is relative  and  particularily with  sex / gender /  sexuality  .....   We  know  that  " morality " is  culturally  constructed   and   that it   changes  radically  with  each  epoch  or  century . If  they  were   simply  in  love  and  erotically  attracted  ,  is  that  a problem  and one  would  hope  they  did  not  break  the  law  by  having  sex  !

Yes.

Homosexuality is now not only legal, but celebrated, promoted and indulged at every turn.

God would be turning in his grave.

But anybody does anything with anyone one hour under the age of 16 and they deserve burning.

Before the holy warriors jump on my case I am not defending the woman. She ought to have had more sense and comes over as someone who has always put it about. Kids with different fathers, etc. She is very lucky that her husband is standing by her - for now.

The salacious media reckon she is looking at 5 years. My estimation is 4, which means she will probably do 2. Which I believe is about right, although doubtless some will reckon she deserves 20. 
Of course she has also fucked up her career and much of her life, so she will have reaped far more than just the custodial sentence.

Quite right many will say, however many people have done far worse things, often for less condemnation.

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Have they called her a pedophile?

I don't recall. But if they have they are wrong, as they are about Epstein and they were about footballer Adam Johnson. The lad was 15 not 10.  :dash:

Oh that's ok then  :dash: :dash: :dash:
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What the fuck is a pedophile? Someone who fucks sub 50cc motorbikes?

Paedophile is the term you're looking for.

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60  years  ago  ,  most  "  ordinary  "   people  in  England  could  not  understand  why  anyone  would  find  a member  of  the  opposite  sex  attractive  and  felt  that  homosexuality  was  abominable   and  criminal   .  In  the  USSR   -  one  of  the  highest  literacy  rates  and  sophistication   in the  world  ,  (   making  England  look  like  a nation  of  Morlocks   !!!   )    ....  in  the  USSR    ,  homosexuality  was  illegal  until 1993  ..

So  I  wonder how people  can  be  so  narrow  minded  about  a  15  year  old  finding  a  35  year  old  attractive  and   vice  versa  ....   why  is there currently  such  a  huge  interest  in this  topic,

Are  people   who  obsess  over  the  Mail  , Telegraph ,  Sun  and  Express   projecting  their   Freudianly  submerged  pedophilia  tendencies   ,  or  is  it  that  everything  is relative  and  particularily with  sex / gender /  sexuality  .....   We  know  that  " morality " is  culturally  constructed   and   that it   changes  radically  with  each  epoch  or  century . If  they  were   simply  in  love  and  erotically  attracted  ,  is  that  a problem  and one  would  hope  they  did  not  break  the  law  by  having  sex  !

I am pretty sure that is what the self styled 'pedophile hunters' do.

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What the fuck is a pedophile? Someone who fucks sub 50cc motorbikes?

Paedophile is the term you're looking for.

It appears to be the American spelling. I have adopted it because everyone else does, and like many American spellings it is easier.

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“We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now.”    1984  O Brien  describes  power .

   ME  ?   I  don't  need  a  genetically  engineered  absence  of  that  mysterious  , unfathomable  and   unknowable  thing  that  DH  Lawrence  spends  most  of  Lady  Chatterley's  Lover  chasing  .....

 :scare: :scare:  I  can  hardly  get  there  anymore  after  20  years  punting  .... :D  The  orgasm  has  itself  deconstructed  the  orgasm   ....  if  it ever  even  existed 
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Whether the boy may of liked it is only relevant to me in that if he did that's better for him than if he didn't. Apart from that she knew she was breaking the law and has thrown away her career, all to have sexual contact with a 15 year old. :thumbsdown: Stupid cunt.

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“We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now.”    1984  O Brien  describes  power .

   ME  ?   I  don't  need  a  genetically  engineered  absence  of  that  mysterious  , unfathomable  and   unknowable  thing  that  DH  Lawrence  spends  most  of  Lady  Chatterley's  Lover  chasing  .....

 :scare: :scare:  I  can  hardly  get  there  anymore  after  20  years  punting  .... :D  The  orgasm  has  itself  deconstructed  the  orgasm   ....  if  it ever  even  existed

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The official viewpoint is that the lad was raped.  Technically of course.
You either go along with that, or take the view that it's entirely different to a male teacher taking advantage of a 15 yr old girl.
I take the latter view.

How is a male teacher taking advantage of a 15 year old girl 'entirely different' from a female teacher taking advantage of a 15 year old boy?
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“We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now.”    1984  O Brien  describes  power .

   ME  ?   I  don't  need  a  genetically  engineered  absence  of  that  mysterious  , unfathomable  and   unknowable  thing  that  DH  Lawrence  spends  most  of  Lady  Chatterley's  Lover  chasing  .....

 :scare: :scare:  I  can  hardly  get  there  anymore  after  20  years  punting  .... :D  The  orgasm  has  itself  deconstructed  the  orgasm   ....  if  it ever  even  existed

Precisely.
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How is a male teacher taking advantage 15 year old girl 'entirely different' from a female teacher taking advantage of a 15 year old boy?

It’s known as double standards, let me explain.

Suppose your 18 year old son went to Benidorm and shagged ten girls in ten days you would give him the thumbs up.

Now let’s suppose your 18 year old daughter shagged ten guys in ten days, you would probably be shocked.

That’s the way it’s always been.

I am sure David1970 will tell me what I have got wrong.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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It’s known as double standards, let me explain.

Suppose your 18 year old son went to Benidorm and shagged ten girls in ten days you would give him the thumbs up.

Now let’s suppose your 18 year old daughter shagged ten guys in ten days, you would probably be shocked.

That’s the way it’s always been.

I am sure David1970 will tell me what I have got wrong.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Jimmy I told you before when you are correct I will agree with you and you correct in this occasion, it’s double standards

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It’s known as double standards, let me explain.

Suppose your 18 year old son went to Benidorm and shagged ten girls in ten days you would give him the thumbs up.

Now let’s suppose your 18 year old daughter shagged ten guys in ten days, you would probably be shocked.

That’s the way it’s always been.


That is indeed a common discussion topic .. 'stud v slut' etc but has nothing to do with this case. This is only in court because she was his teacher. Had that not been the case, we would have had a situation where she had sexual activity with a 15 year old and with his consent.

Whilst illegal because of his age, the case would be complex and whilst it is possible that the CPS would prosecute, it is more likely to be sorted out of court and with involvement of social services.

Even if he been 16 or 17 and consensual, then as his teacher it would still be illegal and far more likely to be prosecuted.

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That is indeed a common discussion topic .. 'stud v slut' etc but has nothing to do with this case. This is only in court because she was his teacher. Had that not been the case, we would have had a situation where she had sexual activity with a 15 year old and with his consent.

Whilst illegal because of his age, the case would be complex and whilst it is possible that the CPS would prosecute, it is more likely to be sorted out of court and with involvement of social services.

Even if he been 16 or 17 and consensual, then as his teacher it would still be illegal and far more likely to be prosecuted.

AOC applying to teachers is different then?
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That is indeed a common discussion topic .. 'stud v slut' etc but has nothing to do with this case. This is only in court because she was his teacher. Had that not been the case, we would have had a situation where she had sexual activity with a 15 year old and with his consent.

Whilst illegal because of his age, the case would be complex and whilst it is possible that the CPS would prosecute, it is more likely to be sorted out of court and with involvement of social services.

Even if he been 16 or 17 and consensual, then as his teacher it would still be illegal and far more likely to be prosecuted.

you seemed to have changed your tune on this topic, when i said a while back that underage sex was common, and usually settled with a police warning, you were aghast.

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you seemed to have changed your tune on this topic, when i said a while back that underage sex was common, and usually settled with a police warning, you were aghast.

No I haven't changed my tune, it is indeed the case that underage sex is commonplace and the individual circumstances are looked into and a decision made. If I recall our difference of opinion at the time was that you said the Police would decide 'informally' and issue a caution, but they cannot make that decision alone, without involving the CPS and Social Services. A decision would then be made as to what is in the best interests of all involved including the 'public interest'. I recall I did intend to clarify this but I think the thread was locked or deleted?

I will see if I can find it?

EDIT in may instances healthcare workers are the first to be aware of the underage sex. There is also a strict process for them to follow usually with specialist input locally and whilst preserving confidentiality. That may then result in the Police and Social services being involved but mostly it does not depending on the individual circumstances.
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AOC applying to teachers is different then?

Child protection legislation applies to anyone under 18. Its not actually an age of consent in this instance. Even if the sexual activity is consensual you are still liable under the abuse of position of trust legislation I linked to above. All teachers are fully aware of this. You simply cannot engage in sexual activity with a pupil under 18.

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It’s known as double standards, let me explain.

Suppose your 18 year old son went to Benidorm and shagged ten girls in ten days you would give him the thumbs up.

Now let’s suppose your 18 year old daughter shagged ten guys in ten days, you would probably be shocked.

That’s the way it’s always been.

I am sure David1970 will tell me what I have got wrong.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'd just want to know where she'd hidden the money, and that she was charging enough

Offline willie loman

No I haven't changed my tune, it is indeed the case that underage sex is commonplace and the individual circumstances are looked into and a decision made. If I recall our difference of opinion at the time was that you said the Police would decide 'informally' and issue a caution, but they cannot make that decision alone, without involving the CPS and Social Services. A decision would then be made as to what is in the best interests of all involved including the 'public interest'. I recall I did intend to clarify this but I think the thread was locked or deleted?

I will see if I can find it?

EDIT in may instances healthcare workers are the first to be aware of the underage sex. There is also a strict process for them to follow usually with specialist input locally and whilst preserving confidentiality. That may then result in the Police and Social services being involved but mostly it does not depending on the individual circumstances.

Fair enough , my view was that it is more common than not, and rarely prosecuted, i was so astonished at your views, that i asked if you had worked as a gp, no gp would be surprised at how common under age sex was.