Harry lectures us again from his $14 million mansion

[scutty brown]

Would you explain whatever prompted you to ask a question like that. Should be a good read 🤔🤔

His past history of posting.

[Liverpool]

Whether Harry was a war hero or not in the past, I think most people will think he's a complete bell end now. His hypocrisy is overwhelming talking complete shit from a position of unimaginable privilege.
 
As for his missus, I never even knew she was mixed race until the woke warriors, who have to draw attention to race at every turn, started banging on about it.
Whatever her racial background she is still a self centered, over privileged, tiresome tit.

Your mate brought it up in this thread

[Private Parts]

“Harry will be back in england, married to some sloan with a huge arse.“

Let’s hope he likes to go ‘large’

PP

[David1970]

I see Harry won his court case against the Mail, for making up stories. Even after losing for lying they claimed they were giving money to the Invictus Games, when in fact it was Harry giving the damages he won to the games.
They can’t help them selfs.


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[David1970]

I see Harry won his court case against the Mail, for making up stories. Even after losing for lying they claimed they were giving money to the Invictus Games, when in fact it was Harry giving the damages he won to the games.
They can’t help them selfs.


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Seems to post twice for some reason

[winkywanky]

British Royal falls for and marries gobby Yank, and she fucks up his shit. Nothing new to see here, move along.

I guess in actual fact there is, she virtually called Britain a racist country, or at least our Press (bloody offensive), and simply used her new Royal platform to continually spout her world view. Pushy bloody Yank  .

In actual fact our Press were, by and large, very accepting of her (like the vast majority of the British public) and she effectively threw it back in our faces. She broke many of the usual protocols, including show your new Royal baby to the world at an early point, and then they'll leave you alone to be a mother (just like Kate), but noooo, she had to be all gobby and contrary.

The sad thing is, she's alienated Harry from his family and his country of birth (and his Royalty FFS) and this must be totally cracking up the poor boy. I can see this ending very badly for them, I wish them well but I suspect Harry will end up a broken man, selling his arse on any bloody cheesy platform that'll have him, Netflix, Prime and all the rest of it. Apart from any philanthropical work they do, to enable that they'll have to sell their arses to live anywhere near the manner to which they're accustomed  .

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WW
I am sure I’m wrong but imho I think.

Harry wanted a Reginald Perrin exit
Megan rather fancied the Horse & Carriage treatment.

They might get that one day.

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[winkywanky]

WW
I am sure I’m wrong but imho I think.

Harry wanted a Reginald Perrin exit
Megan rather fancied the Horse & Carriage treatment.

They might get that one day.

PP

It's a POV for sure, but I think Harry must be hating it. He fell out big time with his beloved brother William and now he lives abroad virtually all the time, not seeing his family. He had/has so much to offer to the UK, to the World, but I think that has been vastly curtailed on account of him being out of the Royal Family now. I just find it very sad, both of them could have achieved so much more from within the Royal Family.

All Meghan had to do was play the game a little bit, not really very much to ask? Her hackles got raised very early on, and she just dug her heels in.

But perhaps I am wrong? 

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WW
Kate has played the game. Good on her.
When you move into a new job you certainly don’t tell your other half’s mother , who happens to be the boss, to f*ck off.
Maybe I too am wrong.

There will be tears before bedtime

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[winkywanky]

WW
Kate has played the game. Good on her.
When you move into a new job you certainly don’t tell your other half’s mother , who happens to be the boss, to f*ck off.
Maybe I too am wrong.

There will be tears before bedtime

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I didn't know Meghan had actually told Her Maj to fuck off? Certainly Her Maj has not mentioned this!   

[mr.bluesky]

I didn't know Meghan had actually told Her Maj to fuck off? Certainly Her Maj has not mentioned this!   

I think she said "Maj go do one" 

[contentguy]

Like I say read the book "Apache" by Ed Macy and make up your own mind 

I've read it, it's a good read.

But what have you got to back up your assertation that Harry didn't fly apaches?

[scutty brown]

I've read it, it's a good read.

But what have you got to back up your assertation that Harry didn't fly apaches?

FWIW I can put that idea to bed - I've seen him in the front seat of one
Display at RAF Cosford around eight years ago

[winkywanky]

It doesn't particularly bother me, but being able to fly an Apache because you got trained to, and actually flying an Apache on active service are two different things of course.

[scutty brown]

It doesn't particularly bother me, but being able to fly an Apache because you got trained to, and actually flying an Apache on active service are two different things of course.

With something as sophisticated  as an Apache you've got to be damned good just to fly the thing.
The interface between the pilots, sensors,  weapons and control systems is incredibly tightly integrated  - for example weapons guidance is controlled by the pilots eyesight focus. A normal pilot wouldn't get a look-in, only someone who can effectively integrate themselves into the machine gets a chance, and even then there's a heavy rejection rate. You don't fly it, you become part of it.
He would have done the training, then the conversion course, then the battlefield training to get him to active status. If he hadn't he wouldn't be in the cockpit

And FWIW the display was pretty impressive for a cab in service trim, though I've seen the test pilots at Westland do better with stripped out lightweight machines

[winkywanky]

I was merely making the point that he might have fully trained up in good faith (including weapons systems of course), and then been told he couldn't fly in a combat role because of his Royal status. The impression I get of Harry is that he'd be mighty pissed off to be told that, but I have no idea whether he did so or not.

It's similar to when Prince Andrew was in the Falklands, there was much debate about whether he'd be allowed to fly, and of course whether it might even become the target of a hostage scenario if shot down, let alone be killed in active service.

[scutty brown]

I was merely making the point that he might have fully trained up in good faith (including weapons systems of course), and then been told he couldn't fly in a combat role because of his Royal status. The impression I get of Harry is that he'd be mighty pissed off to be told that, but I have no idea whether he did so or not.

It's similar to when Prince Andrew was in the Falklands, there was much debate about whether he'd be allowed to fly, and of course whether it might even become the target of a hostage scenario if shot down, let alone be killed in active service.

Harry flew active service in Afghanistan, while   Andrew flew   Sea Kings in the Falklands.
Andrew was one of the pilots on Exocet decoy duty - some of the Sea Kings were fitted with radio emiiters which replicated the return echo for the Exocet target radar.  They flew alongside the carriers, hoping the missile would go for the cab, not the ship. When a missile radar was detected the cab would gain height slowly to draw the Exocet over the ship, shutting the emitter down at the last second and praying the missile would lose target and fly past. In the case of the Atlantic Conveyor the missile was decoyed away from Invincible but then acquired a new target - and hit it.
Its been well documented in the press, but I got the tale first-hand from some of the guys who worked on the Commando squadrons at Yeovilton, years before the press got wind of it

[winkywanky]

Lucky they didn't have to shoot you after they told you Scutty 

[scutty brown]

Lucky they didn't have to shoot you after they told you Scutty 

There were a lot of things they wouldn't talk about, even after a few post-rugby pints

[winkywanky]

Yes, some of it wouldn't have made easy listening  .

[winkywanky]

There was a degree of hand-to-hand combat IIRC? That was a mightily tough gig down in the Falklands, in the air, on land and at sea.

[scutty brown]

Yes, some of it wouldn't have made easy listening  .

It didn't

[scutty brown]

There was a degree of hand-to-hand combat IIRC? That was a mightily tough gig down in the Falklands, in the air, on land and at sea.

The guys I knew were all on the Sea Harrier or Commando helicopter squadrons, so not directly involved in the hand-to-hand stuff.
But what they did see was bad enough

[willie loman]

The guys I knew were all on the Sea Harrier or Commando helicopter squadrons, so not directly involved in the hand-to-hand stuff.
But what they did see was bad enough

no end to your bs is there?

[scutty brown]

no end to your bs is there?

no end to your whining is there?
And before you say it, no I was never in the services. They were just a bunch of guys I played rugby with and knew quite well

[willie loman]

you are a total fantasist., police down to 50% effectives!, booking into a brothel you thought was a hotel, not to mention the endless drivel you post about mossad safe houses etc.

[scutty brown]

you are a total fantasist., police down to 50% effectives!, booking into a brothel you thought was a hotel, not to mention the endless drivel you post about mossad safe houses etc.

You call me a fantasist? With the pure bollocks you come out with? Forgive me if I simply regard you as an idiot, its better than you deserve.

[Squire Haggard]

'Life for everyone has been tough' says Harry. A comment after the article will sum up the attitude of many. 

''Yeah bro, life must be tough for you?! I'm currently trying to lose the Xmas weight (from 2015) I'm skint and my biggest excitement is the Tesco delivery! Swap?!!

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PS I didn't see an article in the DM about Harry winning damages against them. 

[Kev40ish]

'Life for everyone has been tough' says Harry. A comment after the article will sum up the attitude of many. 

''Yeah bro, life must be tough for you?! I'm currently trying to lose the Xmas weight (from 2015) I'm skint and my biggest excitement is the Tesco delivery! Swap?!!

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PS I didn't see an article in the DM about Harry winning damages against them. 

Tend to agree he is an entitled cunt who thinks he has had a hard life..

[mr.bluesky]

Tend to agree he is an entitled cunt who thinks he has had a hard life..

+1 .you've hit the nail on the head there . Must be a really tough gig being a royal . Waited on hand and foot etc

[GreyDave]

'Life for everyone has been tough' says Harry. A comment after the article will sum up the attitude of many. 

''Yeah bro, life must be tough for you?! I'm currently trying to lose the Xmas weight (from 2015) I'm skint and my biggest excitement is the Tesco delivery! Swap?!!

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PS I didn't see an article in the DM about Harry winning damages against them. 

There was a bit saying Judge ordered him to pay his costs in another case 

[winkywanky]

The thing about our tabloid press, they're slightly better/more responsible than they used to be, but once they decide they don't like you they instantly revert to type and start trying to discredit people by any means they can find.

Anything remotely like objective reporting goes straight out the window, they'll do everything they can to smear the target.

They're actually pretty well just as despicable as they used to be, but just with a thin veneer of responsibility/humility which is easily brushed aside.

[Yankee21]

He's a top bloke first and foremost. Been at the sharp end which is to be admired.

Love what he's done for veterans and Invictus etc.

His actions far outweigh his words, something most on this thread (the usual suspects) would do well to remember.

[Kev40ish]

He's a top bloke first and foremost. Been at the sharp end which is to be admired.

Love what he's done for veterans and Invictus etc.

His actions far outweigh his words, something most on this thread (the usual suspects) would do well to remember.

Lots of soldiers have been at the sharp end as you call it.. most don’t get a leg up to go to Sandhurst, obviously it’s who you know that counts..

It’s easy to a philanthropist, set up charities etc. if you don’t have a proper job and great advisers around you..

[Yankee21]

Lots of soldiers have been at the sharp end as you call it.. most don’t get a leg up to go to Sandhurst, obviously it’s who you know that counts..

It’s easy to a philanthropist, set up charities etc. if you don’t have a proper job and great advisers around you..

But we aren't talking about 'lots of soldiers' are we? Specifically one very high profile individual who went through a pretty horrific ordeal when he was young.
Sandhurst really isn't that a bigger deal to get into, lot of the junior NCO ranks from the triservices could get there if they put a shift in.
Three guys who went through CTCRM with me in 90, were at Sandhurst within 2 or 3 years with a single tour over the water.

There is no argument he has a platform, but n the whole, I'd say he's used it very well.

[king tarzan]

Megan.

Very 👅👅👅👅😋😋😋😋..
Bet the entire thread members wouldn't say no??

[David1970]

Lots of soldiers have been at the sharp end as you call it.. most don’t get a leg up to go to Sandhurst, obviously it’s who you know that counts..

You obviously don’t know much about the officer class in the British Army, most get where they are because of how the know, the RAF and RN aren’t as bad

[Kev40ish]

You obviously don’t know much about the officer class in the British Army, most get where they are because of how the know, the RAF and RN aren’t as bad

Obviously I must have missed out in my education of the officer class.. I was always away at boarding school as my Dad was a Colonel!!!

[David1970]

Obviously I must have missed out in my education of the officer class.. I was always away at boarding school as my Dad was a Colonel!!!

Well you will now that it’s not what you now but who you know that is the reason many people get into Sandhurst.
Private schools and army officers family vastly over represented in Sandhurst.

[mr.bluesky]

FWIW I can put that idea to bed - I've seen him in the front seat of one
Display at RAF Cosford around eight years ago

The gunner sits at the front of an apache helicopter the pilot sits behind him in the raised cockpit seat position so he has a better view and as winkywanky says sitting in the front seat at an air display is a bit different to flying combat missions.

[scutty brown]

The gunner sits at the front of an apache helicopter the pilot sits behind him in the raised cockpit seat position so he has a better view. 

Correct. However both members of crew are pilots qualified to fly it on combat missions

[hermanmunster]

I have not seen any of this much publicised interview and won't watch it.  It's irritating, but you cannot avoid hearing bits on the news, in the car etc etc.  I for one have just had enough of this circus and the attention seeking Meghan Markle.  She needs to be brought back to planet earth if she really believes she has had a hard time over the last year.  Throughout Covid many of us suddenly had their income taken away, we had no chance of running away to a millionaire lifestyle and to sell stories and make money on the back of criticising the Royal Family - the same Royal Family that has made you famous in the first place.

I feel Harry should be ashamed for allowing this all to happen - this embarrassing interview wouldn't have happened if they didn't want to stay in the public eye and to make money - they said they were running away to the US to avoid the media circus and have a private life, but now it suits them because they are making millions from it. Is there a trend in that the younger sibling of the heir to throne struggles with an identity crisis - Princess Margaret, Prince Andrew. Prince Harry - there may be more, I haven't checked?

Marrying into the British Royal Family and then saying that Britain is too small for you? She is an embarrassment to both the UK and now possibly to Americans.

To me Meghan Markle is the epitome of the stereotypical shallow American and that is unfair to the many Americans I know (and am related to). Forever playing the hard done by victim!

[RedKettle]

I have not seen any of this much publicised interview and won't watch it.  It's irritating, but you cannot avoid hearing bits on the news, in the car etc etc.  I for one have just had enough of this circus and the attention seeking Meghan Markle.  She needs to be brought back to planet earth if she really believes she has had a hard time over the last year.  Throughout Covid many of us suddenly had their income taken away, we had no chance of running away to a millionaire lifestyle and to sell stories and make money on the back of criticising the Royal Family - the same Royal Family that has made you famous in the first place.

I feel Harry should be ashamed for allowing this all to happen - this embarrassing interview wouldn't have happened if they didn't want to stay in the public eye and to make money - they said they were running away to the US to avoid the media circus and have a private life, but now it suits them because they are making millions from it. Is there a trend in that the younger sibling of the heir to throne struggles with an identity crisis - Princess Margaret, Prince Andrew. Prince Harry - there may be more, I haven't checked?

Marrying into the British Royal Family and then saying that Britain is too small for you? She is an embarrassment to both the UK and now possibly to Americans.

To me Meghan Markle is the epitome of the stereotypical shallow American and that is unfair to the many Americans I know (and am related to). Forever playing the hard done by victim!

Yep I agree with that.  I really liked her at first but just proves I am a terrible judge of character.

I heard that he was moaning that when they moved he had to rely financially on just the millions he inherited from his mother.  Poor soul - he should take some notice of the real world.

[Squire Haggard]

I happened to hear Jeremy Whine just now on Radio2, and its full of people making comments about the recent interview.  I cant help thinking that after HM Betty goes up to sit on the great throne in the sky, the remaining royals will never be as popular or command so much respect.

Their relevance can only diminish IMO. They are on a very slow but sure downward path IMO.

As far as I know, the last monarch to wield political power was William IV, the one before Queen Victoria.

''Although William did not engage in politics as much as his brother or his father, he was the last monarch to appoint a British prime minister contrary to the will of Parliament. ''

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Before that, Queen Anne used her veto in 1708.

''Queen Anne refused to assent to the Scottish Militia Bill, the last time the royal veto was used.''

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[lamboman]

Fed up with these 2 clowns. I don't know anybody that has the slightest interest in them and yet they are on the front page of The Telegraph nearly every day.
Americans might be but I don't live there, they must have very good PR people which is amazing when they just want to be left alone.

[Jimmyredcab]

I happened to hear Jeremy Whine just now on Radio2, and its full of people making comments about the recent interview.  I cant help thinking that after HM Betty goes up to sit on the great throne in the sky, the remaining royals will never be as popular or command so much respect.

Their relevance can only diminish IMO. They are on a very slow but sure downward path IMO.

Totally, totally wrong ——- in my opinion. 

Harry was never going to be King so he was pretty irrelevant.

William & Kate will guarantee the future of the Monarchy for many years to come, it’s a shame we have to suffer Charles as King when his Mother dies.

[David1970]

Totally, totally wrong ——- in my opinion. 

Harry was never going to be King so he was pretty irrelevant.

William & Kate will guarantee the future of the Monarchy for many years to come, it’s a shame we have to suffer Charles as King when his Mother dies.

Got to agree with you Jimmy, William and Kate’s PR is first class, they are liked by the general public. They are at ease with the media and do what the media require to keep them sweet.
Got to think Harry and Megan are aiming their PR at the American market while William and Kate are aiming at the Uk market.

[petermisc]

I feel Harry should be ashamed for allowing this all to happen - this embarrassing interview wouldn't have happened if they didn't want to stay in the public eye and to make money - they said they were running away to the US to avoid the media circus and have a private life, but now it suits them because they are making millions from it.

Apparently they aren't getting any payment for this interview, so what is the reason for doing it?  I suspect that it is because Megan is worried the spotlight is drifting away.  If it wasn't for marrying Harry, she would be a B list celeb at best.  With no royal engagements to keep her in the spotlight, she has to do something to keep herself in the public eye, or her earnings potential will dry up.

At the bottom of this is I think a very different perspective of public service.  Most celebs regard public service as doing a few charity events, putting your name to a few good causes, and so on, provided it doesn't intrude too much on their work and social life.  I think Megan was totally unprepared for what public service means to a Royal. 

Harry just seems to be going along with whatever she wants.  Although interesting that this interview was apparently mainly about Megan, rather than being a joint interview - I wonder if Harry wasn't entirely happy with it.

[Scotpunter]

Totally, totally wrong ——- in my opinion. 

Harry was never going to be King so he was pretty irrelevant.

William & Kate will guarantee the future of the Monarchy for many years to come, it’s a shame we have to suffer Charles as King when his Mother dies.

I agree, William does seem to come across as a decent future King. Just hope Charlie doesn't fuck the gig up for him in the meantime.

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Totally, totally wrong ——- in my opinion. 

Harry was never going to be King so he was pretty irrelevant.

William & Kate will guarantee the future of the Monarchy for many years to come, it’s a shame we have to suffer Charles as King when his Mother dies.

Fair comment JRC. Though Charles has had to be all things to all men whilst in waiting.
He has never taken his detractors to task. And he won’t.
He and his eldest son know how to behave.
It comes with the job.