Author Topic: Ray Clemence -RIP  (Read 2053 times)

Offline mr.bluesky

Just heard the sad news that Ray Clemence one of Englands finest goalkeepers has passed away.  A great career with Liverpool ,Spurs and England. R.I.P

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Top goalkeeper, although Kenny Dalglish put the ball through his legs in a home international, couldn't resist that being a Scot.  :D


Offline mr.bluesky

Top goalkeeper, although Kenny Dalglish put the ball through his legs in a home international, couldn't resist that being a Scot.  :D

Not the only time that has happened to an English keeper. Remember Robert Green doing it against the USA in a world cup group match in 2010  :scare:
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Offline Adoniron

He may not have won as many international caps as Peter Shilton but he was as good a keeper and definitely a better man.

Offline mr.bluesky

He may not have won as many international caps as Peter Shilton but he was as good a keeper and definitely a better man.

I always thought he was a better keeper than Shilton but there was never much to choose between them. I thought Clemence commanded the penalty box better than Shilton but Shilton was an excellent shot stopper.
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Offline Blackpool Rock

I always thought he was a better keeper than Shilton but there was never much to choose between them. I thought Clemence commanded the penalty box better than Shilton but Shilton was an excellent shot stopper.
Yes Shilton was #1 keeper for whatever reason as they were both world class, in any other era Clemence would have been 1st choice and has far more than the 61 England caps that he had, would have probably have beaten Shilton's 125 which is the most capped England player.

I believe that despite the fierce rivalry for the England place and also let's not forget at club level both in league 1 and Europe between Liverpool and Notts Forest they were actually quite friendly and remained in contact till the end.

I never knew he had Prostate cancer so it took me by surprise when I heard he was dead at a relatively young age

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Great goalkeeper

Shilton, Clemence, Jennings, Bailey were the greats in the 80's..
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Very sad. Goalkeeping legend, and that was pretty well my bag when I played as a kid.

Apparently he got diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer 15yrs ago. He's done well to get this far, bless him. This was never, ever talked about in those days, and one wonders how things may have been different if he'd caught it earlier.

RIP Ray, and guys, make it your business to know about your prostate and what to look out for.

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Great goalkeeper

Shilton, Clemence, Jennings, Bailey were the greats in the 80's..

Bailey?  :unknown:

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Bailey?  :unknown:

Surely he can't mean Gary Bailey ex Man Utd. Only capped twice by England  :unknown:
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Surely he can't mean Gary Bailey  :unknown:
The Gary Bailey who let 6 goals in Vs Ipswich Town in 1980?😀.
I think Joe Corrigan should be included in any list of great goalies from the 70s and 80s.
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Surely he can't mean Gary Bailey ex Man Utd. Only capped twice by England  :unknown:

The  red devils 👍👍👍👍👍
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The  red devils 👍👍👍👍👍
The Red Devils are actually Salford RLFC.
United pinched that nickname from them in the 1930s.
Says alot really.
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Offline Paris69

The Gary Bailey who let 6 goals in Vs Ipswich Town in 1980?😀.
I think Joe Corrigan should be included in any list of great goalies from the 70s and 80s.

IMO both were very very average. Same with Gary Sprake of Leeds and Chelsea's the cat, Peter Bonetti
One of the best goalies/shot stoppers i ever saw was Jimmy Montgomerie of Sunderland. Ofc playing for the mackems he was never gonna be seen to be a great ..... but he was.
Still pulled off the best save i've ever seen... even better than Banks' save off Pele.
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Look up (on YouTube) Leeds Vs City in FA Cup @ 1977/78

The save that Corrigan pulls off (from an Allan Clarke header) is almost miraculous. He twists in the air to change direction. As mentioned already it compares with the save Banksy made Vs Brasil in 1970 World Cup.
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Offline Thephoenix

Enjoyed many years standing behind Ray Clemence in The Kop R.I.P.

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Very sad. Goalkeeping legend, and that was pretty well my bag when I played as a kid.

Apparently he got diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer 15yrs ago. He's done well to get this far, bless him. This was never, ever talked about in those days, and one wonders how things may have been different if he'd caught it earlier.

RIP Ray, and guys, make it your business to know about your prostate and what to look out for.

The irony these days is that you quite often see football managers wearing the Prostate Cancer badge when they stand in the dug-outs. It seems to be a charity that got a lot of support in matchday programmes. Up to lockdown, obvs.

Offline mr.bluesky

Very sad. Goalkeeping legend, and that was pretty well my bag when I played as a kid.

Apparently he got diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer 15yrs ago. He's done well to get this far, bless him. This was never, ever talked about in those days, and one wonders how things may have been different if he'd caught it earlier.

RIP Ray, and guys, make it your business to know about your prostate and what to look out for.

It also claimed the life of the great Bobby Moore

Offline Blackpool Rock

It also claimed the life of the great Bobby Moore
From memory Bobby has testicular cancer  :unknown:

Offline Adoniron

From memory Bobby has testicular cancer  :unknown:
I think it was bowel cancer, happy to be corrected though.

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I think it was bowel cancer, happy to be corrected though.

He survived testicular cancer but died from bowel and liver cancer

Offline willie loman

Top goalkeeper, although Kenny Dalglish put the ball through his legs in a home international, couldn't resist that being a Scot.  :D

I was at that match, the only time i saw a scotland england game, the great days of jimmy hill.

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I was at that match, the only time i saw a scotland england game, the great days of jimmy hill.

Any football violence after match??🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊👊👊👊👊👊
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Any football violence after match??🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊👊👊👊👊👊

no, that only happened when scotland played in london.

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no, that only happened when scotland played in london.

You mean " greatest city on earth London"  :hi: :hi:
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no, that only happened when scotland played in london.
Fucking heathens broke our goal too  :diablo:

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no, that only happened when scotland played in london.

Well done Williie...see what you did there...try and engraciate yourself with your southern brothers...whilst at the same time perpetuating an absolute myth about your fellow countrymen.... :blush:

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Is engraciate the opposite of ingratiate north of the border??   :D :D :lol:

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Well done Williie...see what you did there...try and engraciate yourself with your southern brothers...whilst at the same time perpetuating an absolute myth about your fellow countrymen.... :blush:

Scottish violence in London, was a factor in scrapping the fixture, mind you the english were quick learners in that respect, while the scots went down a more pacific route. The Russians of course being the real deal.

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Scottish violence in London, was a factor in scrapping the fixture, mind you the english were quick learners in that respect, while the scots went down a more pacific route. The Russians of course being the real deal.

Look what Rambo done to the Russians in Rambo 3  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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IMO both were very very average. Same with Gary Sprake of Leeds and Chelsea's the cat, Peter Bonetti
One of the best goalies/shot stoppers i ever saw was Jimmy Montgomerie of Sunderland. Ofc playing for the mackems he was never gonna be seen to be a great ..... but he was.
Still pulled off the best save i've ever seen... even better than Banks' save off Pele.

Monty had the best reflexes of any keeper I've seen and it was a disgrace that Bonnetti and Stepney got the nod ahead of him in the 1970 World Cup Squad.

He had rather poor eyesight and it used to be said he couldn't save anything from 30yards but could save at point blank range ie when he tipped 'Lash' Lorimer's shot from six yards out  onto the bar in the 73 Cup Final after parrying Cherry's initial header. In the semi against Arsenal he pulled off an equally brilliant save from a deflected shot from Geordie Armstrong where he too changed direction in mid air.

Offline winkywanky

It also claimed the life of the great Bobby Moore


Pretty sure that was testicular cancer.

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I think it was bowel cancer, happy to be corrected though.

I just looked on Wikipedia. Started as testicular. After having the offending ball removed he was clear? But then he got colon cancer which did for him  :(. Whether the second was linked to the first in reality, who knows?

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He survived testicular cancer but died from bowel and liver cancer


Seems the big C was determined to get him one way or another  :dash:.

Offline Paris69

Monty had the best reflexes of any keeper I've seen and it was a disgrace that Bonnetti and Stepney got the nod ahead of him in the 1970 World Cup Squad.

He had rather poor eyesight and it used to be said he couldn't save anything from 30yards but could save at point blank range ie when he tipped 'Lash' Lorimer's shot from six yards out  onto the bar in the 73 Cup Final after parrying Cherry's initial header. In the semi against Arsenal he pulled off an equally brilliant save from a deflected shot from Geordie Armstrong where he too changed direction in mid air.
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Totally agree. On both counts.

I was at both of them games...... The best game i ever attended though was at Roker Park. S'land v Man City in the 73 Cup game.... And believe it or not, i'm not even a S'land supporter.

Aaah, for the days when football was a community based, game for the masses...
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