The coldness of hookers

[Hobbit]

In most instances probably yes ... but not always.

I know I am going to need a tin hat for saying this  .. but if the punter genuinely possesses the right skill sets (and not just thinks he does) then in my experience it can massively influence a session, even sometimes with the classic mechanical cold SP.

I stand back and wait for incoming ....

Possibly yes because every rock has a soft spot and if you keep working at it then you can crack it open. But I am not here to counsel or be a therapist. I’m here to fuck.

[xyfek]

Yes you would think that men who have the knack wouldnt need to punt, but i dont agree, they just have different reasons to punt. ask wgs if they ever get some really hot clients, you might find their answers interesting.

Not necessarily. As you say, everyone has their own reasons for punting. Some guys just can't be arsed with going out on the pull when they can just call someone.

Of course, I understand your point. I do believe attractive and charming guys also pay for sex. Like I said, everyone has their own reasons and yes, it's much easier than going on the pull.

But I'd be very surprised if these sort of blokes were the majority of clients. Can you shine some light on this, Rochelle?

[daviemac]

Everyone has their own reasons for punting, and I suppose for the married guys it may well be preferable to having affairs, but if someone has all that knack with women (and is aware of it) surely he would pull some civvies, no?

Maybe I'm just projecting, as the main reason for my punting is the complete lack of knack, so when I leave in doubt that's a sign of a good punt, but I'm also certain the SP was just playing her part

There's a world of difference between having the 'knack' of socially interacting with women and therefore making it easier to pull and having the 'knack' of knowing what they like or are likely to like in a sexual scenario. Then of course there's the ones who aren't interested in a relationship or even going out 'on the pull' and are happy to pay for a shag now and again. More so when the ones they are shagging they could never pull in civvy life.

[donnybob]

Well I see she admits to a photo...
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=125223.msg1420300#msg1420300

35, "size 14". Defo not my cup of tea. In fact I wish I hadn't looked. But her posts are mostly ok. I seem to have had the odd run in with her when she's been a bit cocky but nothing against her.

I have just looked at that picture, and I find her very attractive, but each to their own

[Rochelle]

Of course, I understand your point. I do believe attractive and charming guys also pay for sex. Like I said, everyone has their own reasons and yes, it's much easier than going on the pull.

But I'd be very surprised if these sort of blokes were the majority of clients. Can you shine some light on this, Rochelle?

I'd say majority of my clients have been your standard/average person. I've
had some fairly attractive ones, a few really hot ones, a few that I quite fancied. I've only ever had one that fit the old stereotype. (Probably couldn't get it elsewhere.)

[Doc Holliday]

There's a world of difference between having the 'knack' of socially interacting with women and therefore making it easier to pull and having the 'knack' of knowing what they like or are likely to like in a sexual scenario.

Indeed in my case I was referring mostly to the latter.

I began punting when I was circa 50 having become widowed. From a sexual perspective, the course of my life had been complex and likely fairly atypical … even from early teens. As a result, especially during the years leading up to that point, I developed a very particular set of skills; skills acquired over a very long career. (Neeson/Mills) 

And so I embarked on the next stage of my sexual ‘career’ ie punting. This was initially just occasional  during the first six months, but then became out of control for about a two year period some 15 years ago before I stopped. A driving force behind that escalation was the buzz I got when I discovered the effect of using those skills. This included the influence on the scenario of this thread ie the session with the cold SP.

During that time I began posting very large numbers of internet reports, but stopped doing so because it became apparent the service I was receiving was, on many occasions, almost certainly not what most others may expect to find.

Reaches for tin hat again 


EDIT I should clarify that of the many hundreds of punts during that period many were still pretty crap 

[Doc Holliday]

No tin hat required there DH..

But we've got a pen and a pad at the ready........Any top tips there teach?

Got your pen ready.

You put your right hand in,
Your right hand out:
In, out, in, out, shake it all about.
You do the pokey pokey,
And you turn around.
That's what it's all about!

[mightymunce]

You could look at it from another angle just for fun..

Would you be happy/bubbly and full of warmth if as an WG, you open the door to an arrogant, entitled, smelly breathed, hairy arsed, dick cheesed, badly wiped shitty

arsed, urine soaked pubes, spotty-cocked, food in stained teeth, dirty/sharp fingernailed, pongy socks that stand unaided, paint-stripping BO pits, fungal toenailed, 15st

pot-bellied, matted hair tobacco-stained, boundary pushing 6" 2 bloke with a flaky skin condition constantly hinting about BB'ing?..

Lol....do we know each other?

[xyfek]

I'd say majority of my clients have been your standard/average person. I've
had some fairly attractive ones, a few really hot ones, a few that I quite fancied. I've only ever had one that fit the old stereotype. (Probably couldn't get it elsewhere.)

That makes perfect sense to me.

[xyfek]

Got your pen ready.

You put your right hand in,
Your right hand out:
In, out, in, out, shake it all about.
You do the pokey pokey,
And you turn around.
That's what it's all about!

Some sort of fisting?

Most SPs don't even allow fingering, let alone the whole hand

But when they do...

[cotton]

In most instances probably yes ... but not always.

I know I am going to need a tin hat for saying this  .. but if the punter genuinely possesses the right skill sets (and not just thinks he does) then in my experience it can massively influence a session, even sometimes with the classic mechanical cold SP.

I stand back and wait for incoming ....

Yeh well id never completely disagree with you doc.
I think what boiled my piss , to use Davies expression , was just the implicit conceit in the expression "some guys have a knack" and the attendant implication that the rest of us turn up to punts dribbling at the mouth and unable to tie our own shoe laces. 

[Doc Holliday]

Some sort of fisting?

It was just a joke ... clearly a failed one 

Extreme penetrations is a niche activity.

[Doc Holliday]

Yeh well id never completely disagree with you doc.
I think what boiled my piss , to use Davies expression , was just the implicit conceit in the expression "some guys have a knack" and the attendant implication that the rest of us turn up to punts dribbling at the mouth and unable to tie our own shoe laces. 

Understood and agreed. As with all these discussions there is wide spectrum. Most punters fall into the centre ground, although some do definitely need slip on shoes 

[xyfek]

It was just a joke ... clearly a failed one 

Extreme penetrations is a niche activity.

That crossed my mind, but I genuinely wanted some pointers, maybe this knack can be acquired with training

[JonasG]

Cotton spot on with his last few posts.

[JonasG]

I'd say majority of my clients have been your standard/average person. I've
had some fairly attractive ones, a few really hot ones, a few that I quite fancied. I've only ever had one that fit the old stereotype. (Probably couldn't get it elsewhere.)

I made a thread once about how true is the stereotypical image of a punter (old, fat, bald type) and all the WGs in the thread said it wasn't.

It's 2020 and times have changed, especially with it being so easy to punt now with the internet. Any type of can be tempted to see an escort now.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

Got your pen ready.

You put your right hand in,
Your right hand out:
In, out, in, out, shake it all about.
You do the pokey pokey,
And you turn around.
That's what it's all about!

Cheers DM,

I do happen to have a booking with a "Party girl" later tonight so I'll take along my Black Lace Party CD too.

Should be awesome with these new found skills, just hope when I shake it all about, it's not ...."eease extra babeee!"..

[Strawberry]

I made a thread once about how true is the stereotypical image of a punter (old, fat, bald type) and all the WGs in the thread said it wasn't.

It's 2020 and times have changed, especially with it being so easy to punt now with the internet. Any type of can be tempted to see an escort now.

Some punters did start young not within stereotype a long time before the internet improved access.

My experience is a wide range as wide as the people you may see in the street, or meet in any area of life. Jobs, ages, physical appearance, religion, occupation, educational level, intelligence or ability.

[brownman]

I'd say majority of my clients have been your standard/average person. I've
had some fairly attractive ones, a few really hot ones, a few that I quite fancied. I've only ever had one that fit the old stereotype. (Probably couldn't get it elsewhere.)

How did that one fit the stereotype? Really bad hygiene/overweight etc?

[JamesKW]

I'd say majority of my clients have been your standard/average person. I've
had some fairly attractive ones, a few really hot ones, a few that I quite fancied. I've only ever had one that fit the old stereotype. (Probably couldn't get it elsewhere.)

On the party scene you see all and sundry,I see every age group from 20s to 80s,hundreds of nationalities,loads of different body sizes.

[Marmalade]

On the party scene you see all and sundry,I see every age group from 20s to 80s,hundreds of nationalities,loads of different body sizes.

I agree. It does actually raise a question over what this creature known as a "standard/average person" actually is?

At least at parties I've been to, everyone seems sufficiently up to speed to wash properly. I don't know if that's a common understanding, the presence of others, or just (as I hope) the basics for a human being going out of his cave.

Swingers also have a common code (mst of the ones I've met) of shaving or trimming pubes, men and women – something that is a bit overdone by p4ps in my personal opinion. 


A legal 'definition' has been "the man on the top of the Clapham omnibus". I've never done on a bus, Clapham or otherwise. It's sounds a rather nice idea ...though a bit dicey!

[smiths]

On the party scene you see all and sundry,I see every age group from 20s to 80s,hundreds of nationalities,loads of different body sizes.

Yep at the parties I went to that was always the case, the main requirement was to be clean, what you looked like wasn't relevant, it is after all punting not pulling.

[Marmalade]

Yep at the parties I went to that was always the case, the main requirement was to be clean, what you looked like wasn't relevant, it is after all punting not pulling.

Also men are very accepting of each other. Not like "meeting the last punter on the stairs as you go up". There's the occasional guy that is self-conscious or fearful that the close contact of another man makes him feel awkward, but most people get over it quickly. Personally, I don't think of another man's leg touching mine in an orgy any different to how it would be in a rugby scrum.

[JontyR]

Personally, I don't think of another man's leg touching mine in an orgy any different to how it would be in a rugby scrum.

That's a fair point. Mind you I've never been in a rugby scrum where everyone is sporting an erection. Not to my knowledge anyway.

[smiths]

Also men are very accepting of each other. Not like "meeting the last punter on the stairs as you go up". There's the occasional guy that is self-conscious or fearful that the close contact of another man makes him feel awkward, but most people get over it quickly. Personally, I don't think of another man's leg touching mine in an orgy any different to how it would be in a rugby scrum.

Yes most often this is the case, there was a classic exception to this once on pnet though, a punter who described himself as handsome posted what put him off at LMP when he recently went was a few ugly fat punters and couldn't LMP get rid of them. Yeah Em and Moss bringing in body and face apartheid, that's was going to happen, not.

As you say its something most seem to get over quickly, I was shitting myself before my first party which was at GP and I had been punting decades by then, I nearly drove off but went in and within half an hour I knew the set up was for me. What I didn't know then was what a lying slimeball Paddy who ran it was. Still a couple of years later he was in the dock and got convicted so karma if you believe in such a thing got him. In one way it was good to have gone to half a dozen or so London parties run by others before I went to LMP as I could then compare. I initially though LMP was too expensive but when I went I saw the huge difference in quality in all areas, and I got 2 hours punting in 2 hours if I wanted it, at GP it was a 4 hour party but with only just over 2 hours of actual action as the pimp let the WGs have breaks as much as they wanted and all together. So in reality at the time GP was £130 for 4 hours and LMP £120 for 2 and £200 for 2 parties which was my fave option, worked out better VFM than other parties plus there were 6 then 7 WGs going up to 8 per party sometimes not including the big anniversary parties when the atmosphere was even better in my book.

[Ali Katt]

Quite often it's no better with a civvy.

[JamesKW]

Quite often it's no better with a civvy.

or the O/H

[Chronidus]

At the end of the day it comes down to a simple transaction, we want sex and escorts want money.  There will always be someone willing to sell sex if the price is right and I do not have any bad opinions of anyone who chooses this line of work as we all have to do what we need to do to survive.  I do think the coldness can go both ways and thats ok as well, personally I think its better for both involved.  I've only been punting for 2 years and honestly I only do it because I am autistic and have zero social skills so I do not expect to ever be able to get a girlfriend/boyfriend so I punt so I can experience at least the physical side of what I am missing.  I am under no delusion that any escort I see really wants to have sex with me and thats fine 

[Zebedee70]

The coldness of hookers
Just sharing my thoughts after my recent experience of ‘the coldness of hookers’.
I also think, coldness of hookers plus.. they’ve no clue how to play ‘the long game’.
I saw the same SP from January- august 2020, think I saw her 12 times, 2 hour bookings at £240 a shot plus a duo with another SP. so probably around £3k.
Then, my health took a turn for the worse and I had to cancel a booking (5 days notice). As a cancer survivor the rapid decline in my health was disturbing and stressful.
That was 2.5 months ago, I’ve heard absolutely nothing from her at all during that time. Whereas, while I was seeing her we’d message a couple of times a week.
It’s been a great eye opener for me, they could give two fucks about you if the cash isn’t coming in.
Plus... a bit dense, if she’d messaged a couple of times, how are you? Hope you’re ok? And I would have been a total mug and seen her again.
Now my health has improved I won’t be seeing her again and will very much punt for sex not ‘a connection’ cos I realise that is total BS.

[Home Alone]

The coldness of hookers
Just sharing my thoughts after my recent experience of ‘the coldness of hookers’.
I also think, coldness of hookers plus.. they’ve no clue how to play ‘the long game’.
I saw the same SP from January- august 2020, think I saw her 12 times, 2 hour bookings at £240 a shot plus a duo with another SP. so probably around £3k.
Then, my health took a turn for the worse and I had to cancel a booking (5 days notice). As a cancer survivor the rapid decline in my health was disturbing and stressful.
That was 2.5 months ago, I’ve heard absolutely nothing from her at all during that time. Whereas, while I was seeing her we’d message a couple of times a week.
It’s been a great eye opener for me, they could give two fucks about you if the cash isn’t coming in.
Plus... a bit dense, if she’d messaged a couple of times, how are you? Hope you’re ok? And I would have been a total mug and seen her again.
Now my health has improved I won’t be seeing her again and will very much punt for sex not ‘a connection’ cos I realise that is total BS.

Not just that, mrjoydivision, you'd have been taking the first steps towards E.A.S.

[ulstersubbie]

  I am under no delusion that any escort I see really wants to have sex with me and thats fine 

The reality of punting and you understand this.

[king tarzan]

The coldness of hookers
Just sharing my thoughts after my recent experience of ‘the coldness of hookers’.
I also think, coldness of hookers plus.. they’ve no clue how to play ‘the long game’.
I saw the same SP from January- august 2020, think I saw her 12 times, 2 hour bookings at £240 a shot plus a duo with another SP. so probably around £3k.
Then, my health took a turn for the worse and I had to cancel a booking (5 days notice). As a cancer survivor the rapid decline in my health was disturbing and stressful.
That was 2.5 months ago, I’ve heard absolutely nothing from her at all during that time. Whereas, while I was seeing her we’d message a couple of times a week.
It’s been a great eye opener for me, they could give two fucks about you if the cash isn’t coming in.
Plus... a bit dense, if she’d messaged a couple of times, how are you? Hope you’re ok? And I would have been a total mug and seen her again.
Now my health has improved I won’t be seeing her again and will very much punt for sex not ‘a connection’ cos I realise that is total BS.

Escorts care about money money money
They are only loyal to money....
Anyone who thinks different needs to wake up and smell the shit!!!
( Sorry Casanova white knights gentlemen but that's the truth)

[Marmalade]

One might reasonably hope an O/H might be more supportive. Even a non-sexual one.

On a lighter note, every time I saw the thread title in the list of unread posts, I imagined a cartoon where a punter is checking an EE to see if she has a pulse (delayed channel crossing syndrome?). The Japanese are now making realistic sex dolls that speak. If the price comes down it could put a lot of Romanians out of business.

[Payyourwaymate]

The coldness of hookers
Just sharing my thoughts after my recent experience of ‘the coldness of hookers’.
I also think, coldness of hookers plus.. they’ve no clue how to play ‘the long game’.
I saw the same SP from January- august 2020, think I saw her 12 times, 2 hour bookings at £240 a shot plus a duo with another SP. so probably around £3k.
Then, my health took a turn for the worse and I had to cancel a booking (5 days notice). As a cancer survivor the rapid decline in my health was disturbing and stressful.
That was 2.5 months ago, I’ve heard absolutely nothing from her at all during that time. Whereas, while I was seeing her we’d message a couple of times a week.
It’s been a great eye opener for me, they could give two fucks about you if the cash isn’t coming in.
Plus... a bit dense, if she’d messaged a couple of times, how are you? Hope you’re ok? And I would have been a total mug and seen her again.
Now my health has improved I won’t be seeing her again and will very much punt for sex not ‘a connection’ cos I realise that is total BS.

That's not solely related to just WGs though I think... The concept of being abandoned by someone you thought you had some sort of bond with when going through trying times. That's a bad characteristic of a lot of people. Only around when the sun shines, never the rainy days. You should consider yourself lucky you dodged EAS as like Home Alone said. You would have really been fucked if she was a high functioning sociopath and did bother to keep in contact with you for the long term ££££. She would have taken you for everything you had like vindictive civvy women that ruin their ex husbands lives not letting them see the kids and taking every penny, then spreading false damaging information about the man lol. 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Yes thats why they call Banks your ;

"Fair weather friends"

[Lou2019]

That's not solely related to just WGs though I think... The concept of being abandoned by someone you thought you had some sort of bond with when going through trying times. That's a bad characteristic of a lot of people. Only around when the sun shines, never the rainy days. You should consider yourself lucky you dodged EAS as like Home Alone said. You would have really been fucked if she was a high functioning sociopath and did bother to keep in contact with you for the long term ££££. She would have taken you for everything you had like vindictive civvy women that ruin their ex husbands lives not letting them see the kids and taking every penny, then spreading false damaging information about the man lol.

I think you are being a bit unreasonable and putting all the blame on the WG.

[Rochelle]

I think you are being a bit unreasonable and putting all the blame on the WG.

I don't believe he was, actually.

[Lou2019]

I don't believe he was, actually.

Well that’s my interpretation of it actually

[grouper]

Dunno as someone who is useless with women, punting is pretty much my only outlet.

I'd like to think that my regs do enjoy my company and the sex, having hung out socially (on their insistence) and done stuff that isn't on their likes list. Certainly haven't found them cold, but its a mutually beneficial relationship, with the main thing being that I pay them. The perceived affection on my part is great, but however well you get on, its still a transaction.

Wouldn't dream of asking them to hang out of my own accord or asking if they wanted to fuck on a casual basis cuz I know what the answer would be.

It is what it is and not all hookers are the same.

[Doc Holliday]

I don't believe he was, actually.

Neither do I.

Well that’s my interpretation of it actually

Well perhaps you should read it again?

[smiths]

The coldness of hookers
Just sharing my thoughts after my recent experience of ‘the coldness of hookers’.
I also think, coldness of hookers plus.. they’ve no clue how to play ‘the long game’.
I saw the same SP from January- august 2020, think I saw her 12 times, 2 hour bookings at £240 a shot plus a duo with another SP. so probably around £3k.
Then, my health took a turn for the worse and I had to cancel a booking (5 days notice). As a cancer survivor the rapid decline in my health was disturbing and stressful.
That was 2.5 months ago, I’ve heard absolutely nothing from her at all during that time. Whereas, while I was seeing her we’d message a couple of times a week.
It’s been a great eye opener for me, they could give two fucks about you if the cash isn’t coming in.
Plus... a bit dense, if she’d messaged a couple of times, how are you? Hope you’re ok? And I would have been a total mug and seen her again.
Now my health has improved I won’t be seeing her again and will very much punt for sex not ‘a connection’ cos I realise that is total BS.

As ever it depends on the WG, I have had long term regulars who did play the long game and offered me a good service each time. I never expected them or indeed wanted them to be interested in me outside the punt, and I didn't want them to cold contact me.

WGs are about the cash, what else would they be about, it sure isn't to suck and fuck ugly fuckers like me, its their task to offer sex for cash with a good attitude offering a good service not to do anymore than that. I am under no delusion any WG gives the slightest fuck about me and that's as it should be in my view.

[JonasG]

Yeah. Getting into texting thing with them outside of bookings is weird in itself.

So even before his health deteriorated he was getting into slippery ground anyway.

[Marmalade]

I don’t disagree that “it depends on the p4p”...
But can you imagine a thread called, “the warmth of hookers”??

No: neither can I! 





(Though now I’ve mentioned it, some ******* might start one just to have a wee fluffy fit.)

[Payyourwaymate]

I think you are being a bit unreasonable and putting all the blame on the WG.

I did not put any blame on the WG. Infact I said what happened with him is not limited only with WGs, it's everyone that has gone through it at some point or another, with people in general going through tough times to find nobody around to support them but when everything is great, everyone wants to know; and that he was lucky the WG was not as cold and heartless as she could have been with him. 

When will you decide to go back to education in order upskill your english comprehension Miss Lou? I'm sure there are some open universities nearby, infact there must be online classes so you don't even need to leave your house . We are living in turbulent times and selling pussy will not pay the bills forever Lou, how about taking up a new skill? Maybe train to be an english teacher, there are grants around to help, or maybe you could be a counsellor, since you seem to be so great at intepreting my posts and their meaning pointing out my faults in my reasoning  . Well, at least your post this time was better than the last one outright calling me an idiot based on your intepretation of my post. At this point, I don't know what to say anymore ermmm....never mind. All the best lol.

[Lou2019]

I did not put any blame on the WG. Infact I said what happened with him is not limited only with WGs, it's everyone that has gone through it at some point or another, with people in general going through tough times to find nobody around to support them but when everything is great, everyone wants to know; and that he was lucky the WG was not as cold and heartless as she could have been with him. 

When will you decide to go back to education in order upskill your english comprehension Miss Lou? I'm sure there are some open universities nearby, infact there must be online classes so you don't even need to leave your house . We are living in turbulent times and selling pussy will not pay the bills forever Lou, how about taking up a new skill? Maybe train to be an english teacher, there are grants around to help, or maybe you could be a counsellor, since you seem to be so great at intepreting my posts and their meaning pointing out my faults in my reasoning  . Well, at least your post this time was better than the last one outright calling me an idiot based on your intepretation of my post. At this point, I don't know what to say anymore ermmm....never mind. All the best lol.

Having a difference of opinion or interpreting (or misinterpreting) something doesn’t make you stupid or uneducated. I don’t think the insults about my education etc are necessary do you? You don’t know anything about me my education background work etc. Like you say you don’t know what to say anymore so perhaps you/we should just leave it there? I’m not going to get into anything heated with you.

[Marmalade]

(This is a thread where we discuss the coldness of hookers. Do we really need a load of hookers coming on and bleating about their yayaya??) 

[Payyourwaymate]

Having a difference of opinion or interpreting (or misinterpreting) something doesn’t make you stupid or uneducated. I don’t think the insults about my education etc are necessary do you? You don’t know anything about me my education background work etc. Like you say you don’t know what to say anymore so perhaps you/we should just leave it there? I’m not going to get into anything heated with you.

Yes, I agree. However, when you made a conclusion based on a premise of what I said which is not really conducive towards what you have concluded, in this case thinking that my statment equated to me putting all the blame on the WG for the other posters situation, it's really hard to not wonder if you just want an argument or if you genuinely did not get what I meant. This has occurred on more on one occassion aswell....with other posters also saying you might be off the mark, with myself even trying to clarify what I meant...with you then deciding to be stubborn and not even second guess what you may have thought concluding that your final judgement of my statement is final, that only leaves me two conclusions to what you have shown me in the few interactions we have had via posts. 1. You 're a stubborn fool or 2. Perhaps you are not so smart. I would rather not be an arsehole and call you vile words so decided to stick with saying you should go back to school. Although, patronizing your intellect/education is also a dick move  .

What can we do, oh well. I am not a perfect gentleman so may end up being a dickhead at times. More importantly, learning never stops Lou Lou, learning is a life process, we all can improve and better ourselves....one day at a time. I have faith in you that one day you will be able to comprehend peoples perspectives and carefully consider all possible meanings and ask for clarification if necessary, instead of jumping to startling conclusions  .  All the best Miss Lou Lou  .

[Marmalade]

I don't believe he was, actually.

At least one hooker realises this is a punters' discussion forum 

[Mr Doodle]

@lou2019, er.. you did misinterprety the post..

@payyourwaymate... no need to be excessively patronising (although some patronising perfectly acceptable)..

Who the fuck amI to be judgemental - ignore the above!

@mrjoydivision - I am glad to hear your health problems are over.. best wishes for the future.. But seriously, do you expect a WG you are paying for to care for you beyind the time you have paid? Let me ask a question.. you go to a barber/hair (if you are lucky enough to still have it) dresser... they chat through the whole thing about stuff so trivial the fact an OAP lost her £1 in a Sainsbury's trolley rout seems serious, would you expect them to be your support through your tough times? Would you not go back because they didn't send you a card.. Get a grip... It's transactional... Enjoy the moment, for when it passes, it is nothing than a memory...

[Zebedee70]

Thanks, am ok, cancer scare over for now
And
I have got a grip, did you read the end?