New lockdown restrictions

[nsa_fun_87]

These updates are very strange. So pubs and bars close at 10pm, as if until 9.59 the covid germs hold fire cos our great leader Boris said so and then at 10.01 the covid comes to get ya. Also they are saying its better for 6 individuals from 6 different households mixing is better than 7 people from 2 households?

Were in this mess till we find a vaccine ey!

[JamesKW]

I guess the logic behind this is that as the night goes on people get drunker  and they dont stay on their allocated table.I doubt when we were young we would have followed any of these diktats,the youth have remained remarkably well behaved up to now.

[Strawberry]

I guess the logic behind this is that as the night goes on people get drunker  and they dont stay on their allocated table.I doubt when we were young we would have followed any of these diktats,the youth have remained remarkably well behaved up to now.

As I understand it it's to reduce the amount of time people are in the pub, reduce by one hour is one hour less for transmission or circulation of the virus between the people in there.

[winkywanky]

These updates are very strange. So pubs and bars close at 10pm, as if until 9.59 the covid germs hold fire cos our great leader Boris said so and then at 10.01 the covid comes to get ya. Also they are saying its better for 6 individuals from 6 different households mixing is better than 7 people from 2 households?

Were in this mess till we find a vaccine ey!

Why strange?

If evidence suggests that people are getting a bit drunk at the end of the evening and taking more risks, then in an effort to avoid simply closing pubs down (and likely killing off many of them for good) then it seems a fair compromise with a likelihood of lessening transmission?

Of course, there will be those fuckwits who intentionally get pissed more quickly to get around that, but that's the great British public for you  .

[winkywanky]

As I understand it it's to reduce the amount of time people are in the pub, reduce by one hour is one hour less for transmission or circulation of the virus between the people in there.

It will do that as well.

[Blackpool Rock]

Why strange?

If evidence suggests that people are getting a bit drunk at the end of the evening and taking more risks, then in an effort to avoid simply closing pubs down (and likely killing off many of them for good) then it seems a fair compromise with a likelihood of lessening transmission?

Of course, there will be those fuckwits who intentionally get pissed more quickly to get around that, but that's the great British public for you  .

I believe when the licencing hours were extended and you could even open 24 hours a day one of the arguments was that it would stop people drinking too quickly to cram in as much as they could as quick as they could, also to stop people ordering 2 pints just before last orders etc.
I've heard conflicting reports of whether extending the hours stopped trouble late at night or just spread it out a bit

Anyway the build up to last nights announcements was better than the performance, apart from pubs closing earlier there wasn't really any changes, looks to me as though it was more about telling us bigger restrictions are on the way and just softening us up before they happen

[cunningman]

Of course, there will be those fuckwits who intentionally get pissed more quickly to get around that, but that's the great British public for you  .

My kids tried to explain pre-drinking to me.  I was aghast.  So much for a nice game of pool or bar billiards and a natter.

[Strawberry]

My kids tried to explain pre-drinking to me.  I was aghast.  So much for a nice game of pool or bar billiards and a natter.

Yes the drinking at home before going out, did they have a nip bottle in their bag or pocket to top up their bar purchases?

[gbyld87]

I think it's based on the Belgian model which apparently suppressed infection rates dramatically by doing the exact same thing - bars shut at 10.  I haven't really read much into it so perhaps there were other mitigating circumstances but I believe this is the logic behind the current action in the UK.

[winkywanky]

I believe when the licencing hours were extended and you could even open 24 hours a day one of the arguments was that it would stop people drinking too quickly to cram in as much as they could as quick as they could, also to stop people ordering 2 pints just before last orders etc.
I've heard conflicting reports of whether extending the hours stopped trouble late at night or just spread it out a bit

Anyway the build up to last nights announcements was better than the performance, apart from pubs closing earlier there wasn't really any changes, looks to me as though it was more about telling us bigger restrictions are on the way and just softening us up before they happen

The changes are limited, with a warning that if current guidelines aren't heeded (which will inevitably lead to a rise in infections) then there will be tighter control down the line, even to the extent of a full Lockdown again.

If enough people don't listen then this will happen.

This is as much about herding cats as anything else, dealing with a mainly compliant public but always with a small percentage who will potentially fuck it up for everybody else.

How do you deal with that small percentage of fuckwits? Massage their egos gently and ask them nicely to play ball? Probably not, by their very nature, fuckwits need to be hit with a big metaphorical stick. Sadly, I think that's the truth.

This is not like getting away with fare-dodging on the Underground or taking Class A drugs, where people normally get away with it and others are unaffected. If these fuckers spread it they'll inevitably pass it on to others who've been playing ball.

The perfect example is wearing a mask: by and large, the act of wearing one protects others more than it protects yourself. So when I was on the Underground a few weeks ago, wearing my own mask, when I saw others who weren't I just thought you're a cunt, piss off out of my sight.

[winkywanky]

My kids tried to explain pre-drinking to me.  I was aghast.  So much for a nice game of pool or bar billiards and a natter.

Yes, and whatever happened to a nice game of Shove Ha'penny?   

[bbois77]

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[Adoniron]

These updates are very strange. So pubs and bars close at 10pm, as if until 9.59 the covid germs hold fire cos our great leader Boris said so and then at 10.01 the covid comes to get ya. Also they are saying its better for 6 individuals from 6 different households mixing is better than 7 people from 2 households?

Were in this mess till we find a vaccine ey!

Its clever is Covid. It also follows you to work in the morning and waits outside for you till you finish.

[cunningman]

Yes, and whatever happened to a nice game of Shove Ha'penny?   

Never seen that on offer, in fact.  How about darts?  How can you do darts if you arrive pissed?  I can throw straight if I'm sober.

[cunningman]

Yes the drinking at home before going out, did they have a nip bottle in their bag or pocket to top up their bar purchases?

They didn't, no.  But I do have an ex colleague who used to take a water bottle full of vodka.  A couple of strokes later, he's thinking he might slow down.  After all, he is still alive, somehow.

[winkywanky]

Never seen that on offer, in fact.  How about darts?  How can you do darts if you arrive pissed?  I can throw straight if I'm sober.

Most Darts players of old (Jocky Wilson et al) would play better with a few bevvies under their belts  .

[Blackpool Rock]

Most Darts players of old (Jocky Wilson et al) would play better with a few bevvies under their belts  .

Mmmm play better after a few drinks, well yes that was the sort of casual talk that persisted at the time much the same as people swore blind they could drive better after a few pints as they were more "Careful"   

Made me remember this sketch from Not the Nine O'Clock news which apparently made many in the darts game wake up to the fact many players had a serious drink problem and the game had a general image problem of being player by piss heads.
I believe it resulted in some players or perhaps new players cleaning up their act and rising to the top of the game as they played sober

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[winkywanky]

Mmmm play better after a few drinks, well yes that was the sort of casual talk that persisted at the time much the same as people swore blind they could drive better after a few pints as they were more "Careful"   

Made me remember this sketch from Not the Nine O'Clock news which apparently made many in the darts game wake up to the fact many players had a serious drink problem and the game had a general image problem of being player by piss heads.
I believe it resulted in some players or perhaps new players cleaning up their act and rising to the top of the game as they played sober

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In the case of Darts players of the time it was true, they'd conditioned their bodies and minds to be that way, play whilst drinking.

Same as Bill Werbeniuk, the Canadian snookerist of yore. All the beer was doing his health no good, but when he stopped drinking he got the jitters so his doctor prescribed hin Beta Blockers so he could carry on playing without the beer.

[Gordon Bennett]

In the case of Darts players of the time it was true, they'd conditioned their bodies and minds to be that way, play whilst drinking.

Same as Bill Werbeniuk, the Canadian snookerist of yore. All the beer was doing his health no good, but when he stopped drinking he got the jitters so his doctor prescribed hin Beta Blockers so he could carry on playing without the beer.

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[Littlefoot]

Died shortly after his 56th birthday


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40 - 50 pints of lager per day. 

[Blackpool Rock]

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I thought of "Bill Rubberneck" too, 56 when he died, that's young, wonder why 

[Londonpunter30]

Pubs closing at 10:00  I don’t usually drink before lunch unless I’m on holiday,  surely they can stay open until 2200 instead, seems a bit more sensible.

Sorry to the OP, who to be fair started with a PM and then dropped it.  I fucking hate the twelve hour clock, there’s no misunderstanding with the twenty four clock.  Something we seem to have imported from America, they can’t understand it so we seem to be copying that off them. 

[paper7]

Pubs closing at 10:00  I don’t usually drink before lunch unless I’m on holiday,  surely they can stay open until 2200 instead, seems a bit more sensible.

Sorry to the OP, who to be fair started with a PM and then dropped it.  I fucking hate the twelve hour clock, there’s no misunderstanding with the twenty four clock.  Something we seem to have imported from America, they can’t understand it so we seem to be copying that off them.

Americans can't cope with the English language so what makes you think they can tell the time!?

[JamesKW]

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I feel sorry for the youngsters over this,how many people when they were young had a relationship that lasted more than a couple of weeks.The 6 rule indoors is a bit of a nonsense because in schools the social bubble,I have been told,is the whole year group and there has not been much in the way of social distancing.Unless they close down all the schools and universities again (and that doesnt seem to be a popular option) they may as well go for herd immunity.

[JamesKW]

Cases have gone up since schools have reopened so that suggests to eliminate it schools must never open again.

[mh]

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The government has said we can have sex with someone we don't live with, but only if the participants are in an "established relationship". But of course they don't define an established relationship.

Does paying for sex "establish a relationship"?

I think it means punting is again (or still) forbidden (unless it's with a regular?  ). 

[winkywanky]

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The government has said we can have sex with someone we don't live with, but only if the participants are in an "established relationship". But of course they don't define an established relationship.

Does paying for sex "establish a relationship"?

I think it means punting is again (or still) forbidden (unless it's with a regular?  ). 

Well I've had an established relationship with AW for quite some time now 

[RedKettle]

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The government has said we can have sex with someone we don't live with, but only if the participants are in an "established relationship". But of course they don't define an established relationship.

Does paying for sex "establish a relationship"?

I think it means punting is again (or still) forbidden (unless it's with a regular?  ). 

Well until recently there were a couple of WGs that over the last two years I had sex with each of them more than the wife in the same period. To me that feels like an established relationship!

[JamesKW]

Casual sex obviously still goes on, but in their infinite wisdom the Govt. have decided to close down the majority of GUM clinics.You can get a test through the post, but that is difficult to explain away if you are living with the O/H.Cant imagine many young folk giving up casual sex from March 2020 and for the forseeable future.

[JamesKW]

My kids tried to explain pre-drinking to me.  I was aghast.  So much for a nice game of pool or bar billiards and a natter.

Yes,it has become the custom at unis. to drink in the houses/halls before you go out and go out a lot later at 10.00pm,I guess this started because bars stayed open alot later.In our day pubs closed at 10.30 or  11.30 after drinking up time,so pre drinks werent necessary.Sometimes a pub may have offered a lockin for regulars,some drinkers went on to night clubs to carry on drinking.

[Blackpool Rock]

Yes,it has become the custom at unis. to drink in the houses/halls before you go out and go out a lot later at 10.00pm,I guess this started because bars stayed open alot later.In our day pubs closed at 10.30 or  11.30 after drinking up time,so pre drinks werent necessary.Sometimes a pub may have offered a lockin for regulars,some drinkers went on to night clubs to carry on drinking.

But I remember back in the mid 80's all piling round a mates house to "pre load" and get pissed prior to going out, it's not new 

[Strawberry]

Yes,it has become the custom at unis. to drink in the houses/halls before you go out and go out a lot later at 10.00pm,I guess this started because bars stayed open alot later.In our day pubs closed at 10.30 or  11.30 after drinking up time,so pre drinks werent necessary.Sometimes a pub may have offered a lockin for regulars,some drinkers went on to night clubs to carry on drinking.

Generally I thought it was to 'get drunk sooner', and save money. Although often being drunk involves spending more as restraint loosens, phones, keys, wallets, cards are lost or stolen from attention reduced owners.

[Blackpool Rock]

Generally I thought it was to 'get drunk sooner', and save money. Although often being drunk involves spending more as restraint loosens, phones, keys, wallets, cards are lost or stolen from attention reduced owners.

Plus you may "put out" without charging the guy 

[Strawberry]

Plus you may "put out" without charging the guy 

Safety considerations too, thank goodness I managed to quit.

[Ali Katt]

Safety considerations too, thank goodness I managed to quit.

Drinking or shagging?

[Blackpool Rock]

Drinking or shagging?

Nah she meant she'd quit putting out without charging the guy 

[BillyBlueHat]

What do you reckon is the effect of the next 6 months on punting given that covid cases are back to the highest highs?

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[Troydor69]

Hard to say, as a lot depends on how restrictions are monitored and enforced. One thing that I found interesting though. I’ve been trawling though a couple of Polish Escort sites the past couple of days and one girl stated that she had put her prices up in order to reduce the number of clients as a result of the pandemic. Kind of makes sense, she needs to work and the only way to reduce risk is to cut down the number of punters.  I can see this happening over here too. The girls still want to make their money but will want to cut their exposure. Higher prices and less availability coming to a town near you soon.

[WelshClipper]

Just being as careful and selective as I can. I literally cannot abstain from punting. Nor do I have any inclination. So I just stack the odds in my favour as best I can.

[Ali Katt]

What do you reckon is the effect of the next 6 months on punting given that covid cases are back to the highest highs?

B

None of us know, there's usually a spike in flu around November anyway which could be mistaken for covid. Restaurants opening again can only be a good thing as it means they will be harder to close and the same applies to parlours. As has been said stay safe and look after yourself, punting is a very small part of most people's lives I hope.

[JamesKW]

What do you reckon is the effect of the next 6 months on punting given that covid cases are back to the highest highs?

B

I reckon supply of prossies will increase when furlough finishes in October,if you are still on furlough that means your company is not making enough income to employ you, so you will be out the door whatever the Govt. now offers(which is not such a good deal to employers).Also if the Govt. decide to bring in more restrictions more will be unemployed.

[gbyld87]

Quality won't be good though!