Why alt girls make the best escorts

[paulitor23]

Over the years, I've found that the ladies who have tons of tattoos, a goth/punk vibe and all of the other trappings of a young, insecure life lived by constantly needing social acceptance and constantly searching for peer approval and identity have provided the best services.

I think it's psychological. Loners who tend towards exhibitionism, tend to have severe daddy issues, and extreme approval seeking by valuing themselves purely on how they style themselves and which groups they belong to.

What I find hilarious about these ladies is most of them claim to be non-binary, bi, lesbians in their personal life etc. but they love the "patriarchal" construct of being fucked for money by older men. They spend so much effort denying their inherent femininity and "standing" with the cause du jour, things tend to go to the other extreme the moment they get some dick.

Anything can be dressed up as empowering these days when some money is involved, but I have found these ladies to be submissive, eager to please and very willing to do what I want without any fuss whatsoever.

BTW, I'm no misogynist but I'm keen on having some real talk here about what makes certain working girls tick, beyond the basic categorisations of nationality, ass size and the like which are generally indicative of nothing qualitative.

Thoughts?

[oddson1970]

l have never really been attracted to the alternative look but given your experiences, l could be tempted.The closest l came to this look was with a kinda goth looking girl but she described herself as more of a rock chick than a goth.She was up for almost anything and l would say more inclined to the sub side of things.

[paulitor23]

It's definitely not the kind of look that appeals to everyone, but there are generally two kinds of working girls of the younger generation these days, and they're all influenced by social media and pornography.

One kind is the surgically altered, photoshopped fake bimbo who wants instagram fame and material wealth, and sees punters and escorting as a sugar daddy economy to get easy money. Pretending to be rich and flippant about spending gives them self worth. They don't value people at all as they're living a fake life online and that's where they care about being seen.

The other is the alternative, suicide girl type who sees themselves as a plaything, intelligent, edgy and empowered as a way to hide insecurity. They need people's direct approval to affirm who they think they are. Escorting is another way to show how different and powerful they are. The money is still important, but they have a deeper need to be recognised as strong, creative and usually have an overwhelming need to be seen in more intimate ways.

[daviemac]

Over the years, I've found that the ladies who have tons of tattoos, a goth/punk vibe and all of the other trappings of a young, insecure life lived by constantly needing social acceptance and constantly searching for peer approval and identity have provided the best services.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are, none of your reviews match the description you've given here. 

[paulitor23]

And you have over 100 times the posts and only nine more reviews than I have.

What's your contribution, other than being an unbearable hall monitor?

[daviemac]

And you have over 100 times the posts and only nine more reviews than I have.

What's your contribution, other than being an unbearable hall monitor?

You haven't answered the question, how come your reviews don't match the description you've given.

My post count has nothing to do with it. However I don't review one type of escort then claim to have a better experience from another.

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You asked for thoughts and I gave you mine.

[winkywanky]

Over the years, I've found that the ladies who have tons of tattoos, a goth/punk vibe and all of the other trappings of a young, insecure life lived by constantly needing social acceptance and constantly searching for peer approval and identity have provided the best services.

I think it's psychological. Loners who tend towards exhibitionism, tend to have severe daddy issues, and extreme approval seeking by valuing themselves purely on how they style themselves and which groups they belong to.

What I find hilarious about these ladies is most of them claim to be non-binary, bi, lesbians in their personal life etc. but they love the "patriarchal" construct of being fucked for money by older men. They spend so much effort denying their inherent femininity and "standing" with the cause du jour, things tend to go to the other extreme the moment they get some dick.

Anything can be dressed up as empowering these days when some money is involved, but I have found these ladies to be submissive, eager to please and very willing to do what I want without any fuss whatsoever.

BTW, I'm no misogynist but I'm keen on having some real talk here about what makes certain working girls tick, beyond the basic categorisations of nationality, ass size and the like which are generally indicative of nothing qualitative.

Thoughts?

I think there's a lot of truth in that. I like to think I'm not causing them any harm in this regard when I punt with them, so long as they seem willing when we meet and have put up their own AW ad in the first place, then I'm not conflicted.

I note also, that some of them will have self-harm marks, and again I think this goes with the 'territory'. I do get the impression though that for many, this is as much a style statement as their tattoos.

[notcalledchris]

I think there is some truth in OPs observation.  Alt girls in civy street tend to be quiet dirty too. 

[Whoisarrypotter]

I quite like the alt girl look do you have any recommendations you could share?
Thanks

[mace-window]

Over the years, I've found that the ladies who have tons of tattoos, a goth/punk vibe and all of the other trappings of a young, insecure life lived by constantly needing social acceptance and constantly searching for peer approval and identity have provided the best services.

I think it's psychological. Loners who tend towards exhibitionism, tend to have severe daddy issues, and extreme approval seeking by valuing themselves purely on how they style themselves and which groups they belong to.

What I find hilarious about these ladies is most of them claim to be non-binary, bi, lesbians in their personal life etc. but they love the "patriarchal" construct of being fucked for money by older men. They spend so much effort denying their inherent femininity and "standing" with the cause du jour, things tend to go to the other extreme the moment they get some dick.

Anything can be dressed up as empowering these days when some money is involved, but I have found these ladies to be submissive, eager to please and very willing to do what I want without any fuss whatsoever.

BTW, I'm no misogynist but I'm keen on having some real talk here about what makes certain working girls tick, beyond the basic categorisations of nationality, ass size and the like which are generally indicative of nothing qualitative.

Thoughts?

While I somewhat agree with your comment from personal experience most of the ladies that provided best service where ones with no tattoos or older (Jade Fox and xhannahx comes to mind). I have to admit some ladies who where younger and had tattoos did provided great service and are submissive (Ameera and Hazel kitty/Honey Bell pops to mind) but what I notice with most of the ladies you described is that they are either very late (hence me not bothering the meet) or have very poor communications. As for these ladies being non-binary, bi, lesbians in their personal life, who knows. All we know they could be straight. That said I do like some alternative look WG's and not had a WG with tons of tattoos but from what I notice is that alternative WG's who provide great service are hard to come by.

[RLondon99]

While I would not want to add anything that could be read as support for ideas like ‘inherent femininity’ or inherent masculinity or inherent anything at all – I reject them out of hand – I would agree that girls who lack the stereotypical attributes of the babe are usually the best girls to fuck. Small tits / very tall / unusual nerdy features / gender crossover manner / introverted non-bubbly personality type / above average intelligence - all green lights to me that I may be on to something good. These are girls where if you can reach their need ...

Whereas I meet an ‘outgoing’ lipsticky party girl I know there’s a 90% plus chance she is as cold as frozen CO2 inside and I don’t even bother beyond a polite smile.

Redheads are fucking hot too.

[Colston36]

My thoughts are, none of your reviews match the description you've given here. 

My thoughts are that the tattooed girls I have seen - and most I see are tattooed - vary enormously and this theory is codswallop ... based, it seems on theory rather than experience. But I do agree they tend to be dirty girls ... which is why I choose them.

[Home Alone]

Over the years, I've found that the ladies who have tons of tattoos, a goth/punk vibe and all of the other trappings of a young, insecure life lived by constantly needing social acceptance and constantly searching for peer approval and identity have provided the best services.

I think it's psychological.

And I thank goodness that variety - that spice of life - means that those of those of us who would be turned off by such SPs have different SPs who in our view provide the best services.

Each to his own, methinks.

[Grumpy Pumpy]

Is it just me? Or have broad generalizations like the OPs theory become more common recently?

[daviemac]

Is it just me? Or have broad generalizations like the OPs theory become more common recently?

No, not just you, they have become extremely common recently. 

[RLondon99]

Is it just me? Or have broad generalizations like the OPs theory become more common recently?

You might be generalizing a bit there.

[Blackpool Rock]

I have to agree with the OP that some of the Alt looking girls i've punted have been a great fuck and really into it, not quite as mad as a box of frogs but certainly bouncing half way to the ceiling 

Agree with other comments as a few girls have said they either have or have had a "Daddy Dom" need, they have also been very willing and happy to sub
Fortunately I quite like the Alt look of piercings; Tatts and wild coloured hair plus a sub slut floats my boat so all good 

[winkywanky]

Is it just me? Or have broad generalizations like the OPs theory become more common recently?

...nah, you're just generalising...

[winkywanky]

You might be generalizing a bit there.

Beat me to the punch   

[willie loman]

one of the most memorable encounters of my life, was with a rock chick, i think she move to america to pursue her dream, she was only in the sauna for a short interlude,she looked like the sort of girl you used to see working in a record shop.

[smiths]

From my own punting experiences apart from their sadly being a lack of WGs with the alt look in my punting areas and this has always been the case, those that have been about have charged quite high prices usually I have found. That hasn't applied to all but has to most.

Personally I would love to punt with a dirty slut who looks like Leigh Raven.

[paulitor23]

Interesting contributions, guys. It's generalising, from my own experience of certain WGs sexual identity and the level of service it tends to create. A sample scale hypothetical. Should have titled it "Why alt girls make the best escorts IMHO", perhaps.

This is not to say that I encourage us all to seek out WGs who have more obvious issues and backgrounds. I appreciate Winkywanky's thought that no harm is being done in a single booking, and they have individual responsibility, but I also get the sense that they are not addressing something by treating sex work as an ideological power play.

Anyway, this was all an attempt to drive at the idea that there could be a pattern to a certain form of identity and quality of service which means there are better kinds of working girl as a category. As a polar opposite to the "Romanians are crap" viewpoint which is obviously a comment on a generally encountered attitude and restricted services rather than looks and individual or group identity.

Might post some reviews later. Just to please the insufferable hall monitor mods who can't tell a question from a statement, rarely contribute to the actual thread but love to qualify everyone's right to speak, as if reviews are the currency by which we are entitled to converse. Make it the rule, or piss off.

[sharpshoes78]

Metal head here, what did you smoke before posting?

[NigelF]

I'm keen on having some real talk here about what makes certain working girls tick, beyond the basic categorisations of nationality, ass size and the like which are generally indicative of nothing qualitative.

Thoughts?

I don't agree with everything you've said in your OP and 2nd post (reply #2) although to be fair I presume you're deliberately making sweeping generalisations to avoid having to write an essay but I'd argue you should just be a little more cautious with how you phrase what you say (as you've just done in your post above, except your comments directed at daviemac).

Anyway, I do agree that alt girls are somewhat noticeably more likely to be good WGs. This is my experience too although of course it's still far from a guarantee that they'll be good.

I notice that swingers (and girls who like engage in other non paid sexual activity with lots of people/strangers) are particularly likely to be good but again it's not a guarantee.

I think the main reason (although not the only one) that alt girls are more likely to be good is because of their personality (which obviously an aspect of psychology). In terms of the best personality measurements we have (the big 5), alt girls are more likely to be relatively high in openness to experience (which also comprises of creativity and interest in ideas). This is partly why they more likely to be expressive in how they dress and display their body (tatts, piercings etc).

Therefore it's that which makes them more likely to actually want to become an escort and at least occasionally enjoy some aspects of escorting other than just the money (although of course that's almost always of prime importance).

The openness personality dimension is also the aspect of personality that's most closely linked with relatively high intelligence (not massively so but still of significance). I do find intelligent WGs to be a bit more likely to provide good service because they are more likely to think a bit more long and understand the benefits of providing good service. Of course I am stretching here and there are numerous intelligent WGs who don't do that.

Although of course there's not all that many intelligent WGs out there anyway. Many are quite thick, hence one of the reasons they need/choose to escort in the first place. However I would say that escorting part time (while also focussing on a long term career/source of income) is a smart move as it's a relatively "quick and easy" way to make money. Money which can used to invest in their future (although of course most escorts don't do that).

As a side note, there's scientifc data that punters are more likely to be slightly more intelligent than non punters. Anyway, I'm getting rather off topic.

My thoughts are, none of your reviews match the description you've given here. 

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[smiths]

I don't agree with everything you've said in your OP and 2nd post (reply #2) although to be fair I presume you're deliberately making sweeping generalisations to avoid having to write an essay but I'd argue you should just be a little more cautious with how you phrase what you say (as you've just done in your post above, except your comments directed at daviemac).

Anyway, I do agree that alt girls are somewhat noticeably more likely to be good WGs. This is my experience too although of course it's still far from a guarantee that they'll be good.

I notice that swingers (and girls who like engage in other non paid sexual activity with lots of people/strangers) are particularly likely to be good but again it's not a guarantee.

I think the main reason (although not the only one) that alt girls are more likely to be good is because of their personality (which obviously an aspect of psychology). In terms of the best personality measurements we have (the big 5), alt girls are more likely to be relatively high in openness to experience (which also comprises of creativity and interest in ideas). This is partly why they more likely to be expressive in how they dress and display their body (tatts, piercings etc).

Therefore it's that which makes them more likely to actually want to become an escort and at least occasionally enjoy some aspects of escorting other than just the money (although of course that's almost always of prime importance).

The openness personality dimension is also the aspect of personality that's most closely linked with relatively high intelligence (not massively so but still of significance). I do find intelligent WGs to be a bit more likely to provide good service because they are more likely to think a bit more long and understand the benefits of providing good service. Of course I am stretching here and there are numerous intelligent WGs who don't do that.

Although of course there's not all that many intelligent WGs out there anyway. Many are quite thick, hence one of the reasons they need/choose to escort in the first place. However I would say that escorting part time (while also focussing on a long term career/source of income) is a smart move as it's a relatively "quick and easy" way to make money. Money which can used to invest in their future (although of course most escorts don't do that).

As a side note, there's scientifc data that punters are more likely to be slightly more intelligent than non punters. Anyway, I'm getting rather off topic.

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What I have found generally is loads of WGs arent smart in an educational way but have street smarts which for being a WG is just as important, the good ones have great people skills, interpersonal skills.

With Swingers they have already chosen to suck and fuck who knows how many men for free as long as its not hubby who is pushing them into doing it for his gratification which was quite widespread I found. So usually they are very open sexually, the downside has always been many were old trouts but that wouldn't be a problem for me nowadays after who I have paid to punt with recently, but it used to be a problem. Also with swingers can be the cliques and if you aren't in one you aren't getting any pussy unless you look like Brad Pitt or similar. A big reason I stopped bothering with swinging.

As ever with people its the individual person to go on not what they look like, some have still waters and you cant tell until you get in the bedroom. I pulled a dowdy looking library assistant once, timid usually but as filthy as fuck in the bedroom. Far beyond my capabilities to satisfy her appetite.

Good point about openness to experience, I have also found this with extrovert women and more so with extreme extroverts BUT the big downside has been many had emotionally problems as well, some were bi-polar. It was really a front but when that was stripped away they were really a shell. And ultimately seeing as my interest was getting my end away not dealing with their problems I went elsewhere. For a heady while an extreme extrovert can make me feel more alive with how they view the world, their unpredictability can be a buzz. I love women who can fully express themselves without worrying what others think, they don't do embarrassment, but there has always been a price to pay for them being like that, so far. I did meet such a woman early this year but sadly she was totally fucked up as soon became apparent.

[bukowski]

Beat me to the punch   

very typical of the kind of comment a punter would make

[Randy Mcknob]

I note also, that some of them will have self-harm marks, and again I think this goes with the 'territory'. I do get the impression though that for many, this is as much a style statement as their tattoos.

Jesus, this thread is rancid.

[winkywanky]

Metal head here, what did you smoke before posting?

It's OK, he's an Alt-punter with Moddy-issues   

[winkywanky]

Jesus, this thread is rancid.

Perhaps it's not as rancid as you think.

Self-harm, done as some kind of outlet for real internal pain should be taken exactly as such, taken very seriously. In other words, take note that that person may be hurting inside, or perhaps has done so in the past.

The large number of such marks I see these days though, on many, many youngsters who behave quite normally and rationally and happily, leads me to suspect that they've almost been 'hijacked' as some kind of talisman of cool, like tattoos and purple hair. It's everywhere, it seems almost like a fashion statement now.

I may be talking bollocks, if I am the levels of mental health issues are going completely through the roof. Maybe they are? I would never wish to make light of real emotional pain, I've been through enough myself and have family members who have too.

[Private Parts]

WW
Unless,as you say, you have been through the mill (Priory etc)
You’ve not a scooby do.
Short of a lobotomy I came back unscathed.
Maybe too much info.
But the lightweight posters ought  to give it a go.
PP

[JetSetWilly]

Perhaps it's not as rancid as you think.

Self-harm, done as some kind of outlet for real internal pain should be taken exactly as such, taken very seriously. In other words, take note that that person may be hurting inside, or perhaps has done so in the past.

The large number of such marks I see these days though, on many, many youngsters who behave quite normally and rationally and happily, leads me to suspect that they've almost been 'hijacked' as some kind of talisman of cool, like tattoos and purple hair. It's everywhere, it seems almost like a fashion statement now.

I may be talking bollocks, if I am the levels of mental health issues are going completely through the roof. Maybe they are? I would never wish to make light of real emotional pain, I've been through enough myself and have family members who have too.

Evidence of self harm, tattoos, bright hair colours (psychological aposematism), extreme mood swings are all red flags for Borderline Personality Disorder. I suspect it's far more common among SPs than the general female population.

[king tarzan]

Evidence of self harm, tattoos, bright hair colours (psychological aposematism), extreme mood swings are all red flags for Borderline Personality Disorder. I suspect it's far more common among SPs than the general female population.

putting it simply for me..NUTCASES stay away

[daviemac]

putting it simply for me..NUTCASES stay away

Thank you for your eloquently put assessment of mental health issues that can and do affect large numbers of the population, regardless of background.   

[king tarzan]

Thank you for your eloquently put assessment of mental health issues that can and do affect large numbers of the population, regardless of background.   

There was 1 saw years back, a drug addict nutcase who was racist, rude.. put me off for good that 30 seconds.. best to stay away.. period..

[daviemac]

There was 1 saw years back, a drug addict nutcase who was racist, rude.. put me off for good that 30 seconds.. best to stay away.. period..

Pointless trying to discuss it, something about education and pork springs to mind.

[king tarzan]

Pointless trying to discuss it, something about education and pork springs to mind.

that was my personal  experience and thank heavens for 30 seconds.. and yes i felt sorry for her.. it was depressing to see her like that.. but then again out of sight out of mind.. and for myself never again.

[daviemac]

that was my personal  experience and thank heavens for 30 seconds.. and yes i felt sorry for her.. it was depressing to see her like that.. but then again out of sight out of mind.. and for myself never again.

Yes, your experience of one person with mental health issues yet you class everyone the same as a result. mental health problems take many forms, people self harm for a variety of reasons, every is not the same.

I shouldn't be surprised at your viewpoint though, you have a very narrow minded and blinkered outlook. For example look at some of your other posts, you think only escorts who you find attractive are worth punting, you can't accept that different people are attracted to different things.

Like so many others recently you make inaccurate sweeping generalisations. So like I said pointless trying to discuss it so I'll bow out now.

[winkywanky]

Evidence of self harm, tattoos, bright hair colours (psychological aposematism), extreme mood swings are all red flags for Borderline Personality Disorder. I suspect it's far more common among SPs than the general female population.

My point is that all of the above are very, very common now. They've become almost fashionable in the sense that many want to be in a 'Tribe' of likeminded individuals.

Bearing in mind the meteoric rise of this 'look' then it means either that there are vastly more individuals who are 'damaged' now, or the look has become almost a fashion cult. Along with the chosen music and choice of drugs.

I think the reality is a combination of both. Going back to the title of the OP, the word 'Alt' would back this up. IMO it's most frequently a 'lifestyle choice' or 'look' now.

[HumphryB]

Given the discussion of ALT (-?), what currently defines it? Pretty much all the young and cool kids these days have tattoos, and not discreet either. Face, neck, hand and sleeve tattoos are pretty common. As are facial piercings of any description. (not that i have any aversion , each to their own).

Alt looks/fashion was in the past actually an alternitive scene which has now become pretty mainsream. I mean to say "plastic barbies" have just as much "ink" as the "suicide  girls" same as the lassie in primark too.

I'd say its way more of a fashion and cool thing than anything else. Not much of an indicator of someones personality. Miby bellbottoms and kipper ties will come around again.

Disclosure: THIS IS A GENERALISATION

[Aj280]

A bit off topic, but often when I see threads like this, I wonder what SPs themeselves think of us. What generalisations do they make? Do they think more positively of Britsh punters vs foreign punters, is the way a punter dress any indication of anything? Any personality types that ring alarm bells to them? Even what they honestly think of men who pay for sex would be interesting to know.

[Home Alone]

A bit off topic, but often when I see threads like this, I wonder what SPs themeselves think of us. What generalisations do they make? Do they think more positively of Britsh punters vs foreign punters, is the way a punter dress any indication of anything? Any personality types that ring alarm bells to them? Even what they honestly think of men who pay for sex would be interesting to know.

Isn't that one of the things External Link/Members Only was invented for?

[Lou2019]

A bit off topic, but often when I see threads like this, I wonder what SPs themeselves think of us. What generalisations do they make? Do they think more positively of Britsh punters vs foreign punters, is the way a punter dress any indication of anything? Any personality types that ring alarm bells to them? Even what they honestly think of men who pay for sex would be interesting to know.

Personally, and I think I can probably speak for a lot of us, we don’t give a toss how you dress or where you was born as long as you are clean, polite and respectful that’s all that matters to be honest.

[Lou2019]

Thank you for your eloquently put assessment of mental health issues that can and do affect large numbers of the population, regardless of background.   

 

[JetSetWilly]

My point is that all of the above are very, very common now. They've become almost fashionable in the sense that many want to be in a 'Tribe' of likeminded individuals.

Bearing in mind the meteoric rise of this 'look' then it means either that there are vastly more individuals who are 'damaged' now, or the look has become almost a fashion cult. Along with the chosen music and choice of drugs.

I think the reality is a combination of both. Going back to the title of the OP, the word 'Alt' would back this up. IMO it's most frequently a 'lifestyle choice' or 'look' now.

There is an External Link/Members Only, particularly for those in their 20s.

"A 2008 study of nearly 35,000 adults in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry found that 5.9% — which would translate into 18 million Americans — had been given a BPD diagnosis. As recently as 2000, the American Psychiatric Association believed that only 2% had BPD....Regardless of gender, people in their 20s are at higher risk for BPD than those older or younger."

And yes, there is also a rise in 'the look' you mention. Although I think it has also become a fashionable culture to wear mental health conditions (real or imagined) like a badge of pride - particularly for 'woke' feminist types.

[winkywanky]

There is an External Link/Members Only, particularly for those in their 20s.

"A 2008 study of nearly 35,000 adults in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry found that 5.9% — which would translate into 18 million Americans — had been given a BPD diagnosis. As recently as 2000, the American Psychiatric Association believed that only 2% had BPD....Regardless of gender, people in their 20s are at higher risk for BPD than those older or younger."

And yes, there is also a rise in 'the look' you mention. Although I think it has also become a fashionable culture to wear mental health conditions (real or imagined) like a badge of pride - particularly for 'woke' feminist types.

Yes. Snowflake millennial and all the rest of it.

It's great to be open about mental health issues but these days it's almost turned into an industry. It's 'cool' to be a little fucked up, let's keep telling each other how fragile we all are and see how it ends up.

We are seeing how it ends up.

I do also think that young people are subject to all kinds of pressures that people didn't used to be. Constant worries about climate change, racism is endemic and everywhere (it isn't but if you look hard enough you can find some) and everyone is racist (they aren't) and then Coronavirus comes along. WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIEEEEEE!! Well no, not really. calm down dear. And stop taking industrial amounts of weapons-grade weed because you think you need to 'self-medicate', if you're not suffering from psychotic episodes already, you soon will be.

[Aj280]

Isn't that one of the things External Link/Members Only was invented for?

First time hearing of that site. Thanks.

[Fast and Bulbous]

Personally, and I think I can probably speak for a lot of us, we don’t give a toss how you dress or where you was born as long as you are clean, polite and respectful that’s all that matters to be honest.

Surely there's at least one other it£m that also matters?

[Home Alone]

First time hearing of that site. Thanks.

You're welcome 

You'll find it a lot - I think the best word is 'tamer' - than here!

[Whoisarrypotter]

Ok so just to get an idea would this girl fit into the genre that we are talking about?

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I dont know fully how intellectual or how.much.of.it is just part of the act.

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[Colston36]

My point is that all of the above are very, very common now. They've become almost fashionable in the sense that many want to be in a 'Tribe' of likeminded individuals.

Bearing in mind the meteoric rise of this 'look' then it means either that there are vastly more individuals who are 'damaged' now, or the look has become almost a fashion cult. Along with the chosen music and choice of drugs.

I think the reality is a combination of both. Going back to the title of the OP, the word 'Alt' would back this up. IMO it's most frequently a 'lifestyle choice' or 'look' now.

I wonder how many of us are old enough to recall that at one time the mere presence of a tattoo said "whore"? I suspect that subliminally that's why I find them sexy.