Decline of marriage as an institution

[sgc]

My goodness me. I think by the time we get to 2030 hardly anyone will get married:

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If anyone is here in 2030 , I called it...

[king tarzan]

society is engulfed in decriped morals.. i only see and admire Mike Pence and Jair Balsonaro trying to keep the family nucleus alive....faired income to them in trying against very degenerate enemies... the moral code of marriage and stability is sadly not so more...

[wearegreat]

Marriage is a fine old institution.
And that's where it belongs,in an institution!!!!!

[Payyourwaymate]

When I watched Jada smith call the love affair she had with the singer an entanglement I was in disbelief. Is this what they call cheating now. No self accountability to hold herself for what she done. The singer poured his heart out in some interview as well saying that he gave his all to her and would be happy to die knowing that he gave himself to someone else wholeheartedly...the same person who referred to their relationship as an entanglement. Whilst Will Smith has to sit down and smile through the bullshit. It's incredible, she disrepected both men and herself, while she is trying to justify her hoeing about through some childhood trauma. Women sometimes man lol. In other words...she belongs to the streets!.

Will smith smiling through the bullshit whilst Jada tries to justify being a hoe

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[mace-window]

My goodness me. I think by the time we get to 2030 hardly anyone will get married:

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If anyone is here in 2030 , I called it...

They is a reason why I don't want to get married as guy in my 20's in 2020 and above. Funny thing is I am a guy who would be happy making love with one woman for the rest of my life. I am a romantic but from the stories of countless married men telling me about how miserable their marriage are at the gym, Divorcee rate being to high, women are the first to call the divorce, the marriage laws favoring women to take most of the husband money for just being the wife and women not making love to you anymore after first years of marriage (hence why most of you guys are here in the first place) is reason why I won't get married.

If society want marriage laws to change women will need to protest for Marriage laws to change, not whoring themselves, be with someone you actually love but not for money or he was your best option and dropping the feminist ideologue full stop. Not men as if we did anything like that, the media will paint us as misogynist extremist. For me I can't be with a women who don't want to have sex with me after 2 years of marriage. I know sex is not everything in a relationship but it's important for men and if we are not having sex then we are just fucking room mates which I did not sign up for. That and the wife is getting it from someone else most likely believe me. And if you love someone you would be giving him best sex for most of his life and don't make his life a living hell. But these same females where happy fucking all the guys in her 20's doing all the nasty things with chad/Tyrone/Mohammed but she won't do those nasty things for her husband. And the way things are going I don't think things are going to change anytime soon until the marriage rates start affecting the women which proves that these women don't give a dam about men in general (well apart the top 1% as they see rest of us guys as ghosts).

They is a saying that goes a wise man learn from their mistakes, but clever man learn from others (or something like this). Am the clever guy of that saying. I am guy who would love to be with one woman for rest of my life but if that's not an great option in today's society then I can bang different women every now and then which is small side effect to this lifestyle. At least I won't lose half and have starfish sex.

But hi, most women will protest against a man that grabbed one women pussy (who let him do it mind you) with their pussy hats while the divorce courts continue ruin today's families.

[ulstersubbie]

Marriage is a fine old institution.
And that's where it belongs,in an institution!!!!!

 

[superman64]

The issue for me is that love and marriage for most people is a sort of modern day naïve magic belief. People claim to be astute scientific atheists yet still believe there is some magical person out there waiting for them that will give them magical orgasms if only they just need to wait for that one.

Marriage for fun is the problem because marriage was never about fun. Marriage is about survival. When you are a team of two people vs a whole world full of teams of 1 you have distinct advantages. When you wake up in the middle of the night with a stabbing pain in your abdomen someone is there to phone you an ambulance. Living expenses are cheaper, you get two incomes, chores are divided. Love and happiness does not factor into these necessities. At best all you need to manage is to find someone who you won't hate each others guts and you'll reap a lot of benefits most people wouldn't get access to.

I told my wife, I didn't get married for love. Love is fickle. Family is forever.

[superman64]

When I watched Jada smith call the love affair she had with the singer an entanglement I was in disbelief. Is this what they call cheating now. No self accountability to hold herself for what she done. The singer poured his heart out in some interview as well saying that he gave his all to her and would be happy to die knowing that he gave himself to someone else wholeheartedly...the same person who referred to their relationship as an entanglement. Whilst Will Smith has to sit down and smile through the bullshit. It's incredible, she disrepected both men and herself, while she is trying to justify her hoeing about through some childhood trauma. Women sometimes man lol. In other words...she belongs to the streets!.

Will smith smiling through the bullshit whilst Jada tries to justify being a hoe

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A lot of people in the world are not capable of introspection, analysation of their own thoughts and mind, or have any kind of internal dialogue. They are the non player characters, the soulless ones.

It's a very light form of narcissism where they are totally unable to take any kind of responsibility for the things that happen in their lives. Things happen TO them, they are never active participants in their own lives due to a lack of free and live entirely in a reactionary state. These are the kind of people who have a long list of bad relationships where each and every one of the other person was entirely at fault.

They are just frail leaves blowing around in the winds of other peoples desires and decisions.

[superman64]

They is a reason why I don't want to get married as guy in my 20's in 2020 and above. Funny thing is I am a guy who would be happy making love with one woman for the rest of my life. I am a romantic but from the stories of countless married men telling me about how miserable their marriage are at the gym, Divorcee rate being to high, women are the first to call the divorce, the marriage laws favoring women to take most of the husband money for just being the wife and women not making love to you anymore after first years of marriage (hence why most of you guys are here in the first place) is reason why I won't get married.

If society want marriage laws to change women will need to protest for Marriage laws to change, not whoring themselves, be with someone you actually love but not for money or he was your best option and dropping the feminist ideologue full stop. Not men as if we did anything like that, the media will paint us as misogynist extremist. For me I can't be with a women who don't want to have sex with me after 2 years of marriage. I know sex is not everything in a relationship but it's important for men and if we are not having sex then we are just fucking room mates which I did not sign up for. That and the wife is getting it from someone else most likely believe me. And if you love someone you would be giving him best sex for most of his life and don't make his life a living hell. But these same females where happy fucking all the guys in her 20's doing all the nasty things with chad/Tyrone/Mohammed but she won't do those nasty things for her husband. And the way things are going I don't think things are going to change anytime soon until the marriage rates start affecting the women which proves that these women don't give a dam about men in general (well apart the top 1% as they see rest of us guys as ghosts).

They is a saying that goes a wise man learn from their mistakes, but clever man learn from others (or something like this). Am the clever guy of that saying. I am guy who would love to be with one woman for rest of my life but if that's not an great option in today's society then I can bang different women every now and then which is small side effect to this lifestyle. At least I won't lose half and have starfish sex.

But hi, most women will protest against a man that grabbed one women pussy (who let him do it mind you) with their pussy hats while the divorce courts continue ruin today's families.

Never let anyone tell you that sex isn't the most important thing in a relationship, especially women. Remind them what thing they might catch you doing that is the single most deciding deal breaker for a relationship. If a women thinks that you fucking someone else is the deal breaker for a relationship... then sex surely is the most important aspect of the relationship.

[mace-window]

Never let anyone tell you that sex isn't the most important thing in a relationship, especially women. Remind them what thing they might catch you doing that is the single most deciding deal breaker for a relationship. If a women thinks that you fucking someone else is the deal breaker for a relationship... then sex surely is the most important aspect of the relationship.

Amen brother. Funny thing is that when the older woman (cougar) decides to leave her husband/partner after sexless marriage then they will go to the gym to get fit, find a fitter younger guy and fuck the shit out of him thinking she is all that. Sad as these type of women will say they love their man but after 2nd year of the marriage reduce the sex or enthusiasm to perform great sex dies out. While in the past she was letting any rich/bad boy have his wicked ways with her any day of the time. Smh.....

[superman64]

Woman are like dogs.

This is not meant in any derogatory sense whatsoever (dogs are great!), it just means that just as there are no bad dogs, only bad dog owners, there are no bad women either, just bad husbands who don't have a clue how to treat a woman.

To have a happy dog, you need to spend some serious quality time with it. You need to enjoy doing things with it, and to show it lots of affection. You also need to truly appreciate its willingness to assist you in all the ways it is capable of. If you aren't all that interested in dogs and don't really enjoy the company of a dog and don't even have any use for a dog's assistance, why would you even get one in the first place? It will only make the dog feel unfulfilled and miserable, and a miserable dog will soon do its best to make your life miserable too!

Replace the word "dog" with "woman" in the last paragraph, and realize every word still holds perfectly true.

[sgc]

They is a reason why I don't want to get married as guy in my 20's in 2020 and above. Funny thing is I am a guy who would be happy making love with one woman for the rest of my life. I am a romantic but from the stories of countless married men telling me about how miserable their marriage are at the gym, Divorcee rate being to high, women are the first to call the divorce, the marriage laws favoring women to take most of the husband money for just being the wife and women not making love to you anymore after first years of marriage (hence why most of you guys are here in the first place) is reason why I won't get married.

If society want marriage laws to change women will need to protest for Marriage laws to change, not whoring themselves, be with someone you actually love but not for money or he was your best option and dropping the feminist ideologue full stop. Not men as if we did anything like that, the media will paint us as misogynist extremist. For me I can't be with a women who don't want to have sex with me after 2 years of marriage. I know sex is not everything in a relationship but it's important for men and if we are not having sex then we are just fucking room mates which I did not sign up for. That and the wife is getting it from someone else most likely believe me. And if you love someone you would be giving him best sex for most of his life and don't make his life a living hell. But these same females where happy fucking all the guys in her 20's doing all the nasty things with chad/Tyrone/Mohammed but she won't do those nasty things for her husband. And the way things are going I don't think things are going to change anytime soon until the marriage rates start affecting the women which proves that these women don't give a dam about men in general (well apart the top 1% as they see rest of us guys as ghosts).

They is a saying that goes a wise man learn from their mistakes, but clever man learn from others (or something like this). Am the clever guy of that saying. I am guy who would love to be with one woman for rest of my life but if that's not an great option in today's society then I can bang different women every now and then which is small side effect to this lifestyle. At least I won't lose half and have starfish sex.

But hi, most women will protest against a man that grabbed one women pussy (who let him do it mind you) with their pussy hats while the divorce courts continue ruin today's families.

I know what you mean - I got cheated on after 10 years of marriage after putting so much into it and ended up financially really messed up whilst my ex got away with a nice fat amount of money in the bank. Thankfully no kids and young enough to start again but if there were kids and I was older it would have completely ruined me. I still think marriage is the fabric that holds society together but after my experience it is not for me any more. I swallowed the red pill and decided to just pay for it- works out cheaper!

[superman64]

I know what you mean - I got cheated on after 10 years of marriage after putting so much into it and ended up financially really messed up whilst my ex got away with a nice fat amount of money in the bank. Thankfully no kids and young enough to start again but if there were kids and I was older it would have completely ruined me. I still think marriage is the fabric that holds society together but after my experience it is not for me any more. I swallowed the red pill and decided to just pay for it- works out cheaper!

The main beneficiary of marriage is the kids. If you are already in that neck of the words you ought to just suck it up and wait till they're older. That being said, I'm sure some people out there are experts at making themselves and their kids miserable regardless.

[mace-window]

I know what you mean - I got cheated on after 10 years of marriage after putting so much into it and ended up financially really messed up whilst my ex got away with a nice fat amount of money in the bank. Thankfully no kids and young enough to start again but if there were kids and I was older it would have completely ruined me. I still think marriage is the fabric that holds society together but after my experience it is not for me any more. I swallowed the red pill and decided to just pay for it- works out cheaper!

Welcome to the club my friend. I been red pill in my 20's (still in my 20's mind you) and it looks like I will have a good life knowing what I know and avoiding such things like marriage and not having damaged women in my life.

[sgc]

The main beneficiary of marriage is the kids. If you are already in that neck of the words you ought to just suck it up and wait till they're older. That being said, I'm sure some people out there are experts at making themselves and their kids miserable regardless.

Yes, definitely. That is another reason I no longer want to marry. I have seen my uncle with a young son and the poor kid is heartbroken by his parents divorce.. actually bought a tear to my eye. I am sure he will be fine in the long run but I am not prepared to get married and have kids and risk another divorce and ruining my potential kid's lives.

[sgc]

Welcome to the club my friend. I been red pill in my 20's (still in my 20's mind you) and it looks like I will have a good life knowing what I know and avoiding such things like marriage and not having damaged women in my life.

Cheers, I only found out about it because was so bitter initially when my wife hit me with a divorce out the blue and I kept Youtubing things like "why did my wife divorce me after I did everything for her" and things like that and found out about it.  Did not know how many many men get stung in their divorce...literally in "normal society" no one even talks about it.

Thank goodness for punting.. no need to be bitter now. I can enjoy and appreciate women without having to commit.

[superman64]

Cheers, I only found out about it because was so bitter initially when my wife hit me with a divorce out the blue and I kept Youtubing things like "why did my wife divorce me after I did everything for her" and things like that and found out about it.  Did not know how many many men get stung in their divorce...literally in "normal society" no one even talks about it.

Thank goodness for punting.. no need to be bitter now. I can enjoy and appreciate women without having to commit.

Don't ever talk about the benefits of fatherhood. Minorites and women can't somehow be successful without seeing a role model in advertising and movies who looks like them but little boys are expected to be able to grow up into men without fathers.

Think of the poor single mothers feelings, you wouldn't want to imply they either can't be nice enough to keep a guy in their life or they made a terrible choice choosing the father of their kid.

[Gambitman92]

Welcome to the club my friend. I been red pill in my 20's (still in my 20's mind you) and it looks like I will have a good life knowing what I know and avoiding such things like marriage and not having damaged women in my life.

Lmao, how sad, I'm also in my 20s and I feel sorry for you, your way of thinking is so backwards, this whole nice guy/bad boy/chad/simp rubbish doesn't apply to the majority of women, I know and dated plenty of nice, down to earth, attractive women who are just looking for some one decent looking with a good heart.

You've set yourself up to fail before even trying. I've been bodybuilding since I was 17 and my training partner is older than me, he's open about his sex life, married for 20 years and still having lots of sex with his wife.

I'm on okcupid right now, been on plenty of dates, you can filter out profiles based on questions. Plenty of girls answered "yes" to the following:

Are you open to sex on the first date
Do you consider regular sex important in maintaining a healthy relationship

There was one that said how often would you like to have sex with your partner, lots said "everyday" while most said "every other day".

Find someone compatible with you, if she likes you, your personality and company then the sex will come.

You need to stop listening to incels and actually meet up with women. And no offense, but good life? Lol

[Thephoenix]

Just wondering if any of the contributors so strongly against marriage would like to become fathers at any time, and if so, what situation would you envisage your children being nurtured and cared for?

[Adoniron]

Just wondering how many of the people extolling the virtues of marriage on here are themselves married but pay for sex with prostitutes?

[sgc]

Lmao, how sad, I'm also in my 20s and I feel sorry for you, your way of thinking is so backwards, this whole nice guy/bad boy/chad/simp rubbish doesn't apply to the majority of women, I know and dated plenty of nice, down to earth, attractive women who are just looking for some one decent looking with a good heart.

You've set yourself up to fail before even trying. I've been bodybuilding since I was 17 and my training partner is older than me, he's open about his sex life, married for 20 years and still having lots of sex with his wife.

I'm on okcupid right now, been on plenty of dates, you can filter out profiles based on questions. Plenty of girls answered "yes" to the following:

Are you open to sex on the first date
Do you consider regular sex important in maintaining a healthy relationship

There was one that said how often would you like to have sex with your partner, lots said "everyday" while most said "every other day".

Find someone compatible with you, if she likes you, your personality and company then the sex will come.

You need to stop listening to incels and actually meet up with women. And no offense, but good life? Lol

You sound like me 15 years ago! Marriage is great- It's not like I wanted it to end! We end up shaping our views as a result of our experiences. I am not against marriage, dating , etc but marriage is not for me - dating, yes. Started lifting weights recently too.

[superman64]

Just wondering how many of the people extolling the virtues of marriage on here are themselves married but pay for sex with prostitutes?

Guilty, and my wife isn't even that bad or anything and is more attractive than many of the girls I've paid for.

I just like the matter of factness and straight to business aspect of it.

To be honest my wife would be more angry that I'm wasting money 

[sgc]

To be honest my wife would be more angry that I'm wasting money 

 

[Payyourwaymate]

Just wondering if any of the contributors so strongly against marriage would like to become fathers at any time, and if so, what situation would you envisage your children being nurtured and cared for?

I hope this picture answers your question  .

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[Payyourwaymate]

Woman are like dogs.

This is not meant in any derogatory sense whatsoever (dogs are great!), it just means that just as there are no bad dogs, only bad dog owners, there are no bad women either, just bad husbands who don't have a clue how to treat a woman.

To have a happy dog, you need to spend some serious quality time with it. You need to enjoy doing things with it, and to show it lots of affection. You also need to truly appreciate its willingness to assist you in all the ways it is capable of. If you aren't all that interested in dogs and don't really enjoy the company of a dog and don't even have any use for a dog's assistance, why would you even get one in the first place? It will only make the dog feel unfulfilled and miserable, and a miserable dog will soon do its best to make your life miserable too!

Replace the word "dog" with "woman" in the last paragraph, and realize every word still holds perfectly true.

You sure women are similar to dogs? A Dogs loyalty never flinches and they will even die for you if you treat them well. How many women have done men wrong that treated them well? How many women have stipped men down financially and emotionally after everything the man has sacraficed for them? I could go on and on.

[mace-window]

Lmao, how sad, I'm also in my 20s and I feel sorry for you, your way of thinking is so backwards, this whole nice guy/bad boy/chad/simp rubbish doesn't apply to the majority of women, I know and dated plenty of nice, down to earth, attractive women who are just looking for some one decent looking with a good heart.

You've set yourself up to fail before even trying. I've been bodybuilding since I was 17 and my training partner is older than me, he's open about his sex life, married for 20 years and still having lots of sex with his wife.

I'm on okcupid right now, been on plenty of dates, you can filter out profiles based on questions. Plenty of girls answered "yes" to the following:

Are you open to sex on the first date
Do you consider regular sex important in maintaining a healthy relationship

There was one that said how often would you like to have sex with your partner, lots said "everyday" while most said "every other day".

Find someone compatible with you, if she likes you, your personality and company then the sex will come.

You need to stop listening to incels and actually meet up with women. And no offense, but good life? Lol

OK Chad/bad boy .

But seriously when I said I got a head start on not focusing on girls in my 20's, it meant that I can focus on my goals rather than dates. And how do you know that I have not meet up with women? I have dated in the past and some have been good and others been bad but again it takes time and effect to just go on a date and not get second or third date.

Maybe your getting dates from these ladies thanks to you being attractive, being a body builder and hence why it's easy for you. It's easy for you to say just be yourself and meet women but not everyone is gifted as you. I don't know what am not one making clams of who people are. That said I am aren't blind to reality unlike you and maybe you will learn the hard way which I don't want you to experience mind you. You pal has a great marriage. Great but that's like small % of married couples who are happy. Large % of couples are miserable and you have to look at threads of why married punters are here in the first place  .

If your on here then why make such a comment that the bigger questions though.

And calling me an incel 

I hope you know what that means as I would not make such comments as I did early. End of the day it's not backward thinking, it is thinking logically and from reading your response you got but hurt that one man is not dating women on a escort site.

[superman64]

The problem was those men were probably giving women what women told them they wanted.

Woman have no idea what they want, and they watch the world burn just to get it.

 

[mace-window]

Cheers, I only found out about it because was so bitter initially when my wife hit me with a divorce out the blue and I kept Youtubing things like "why did my wife divorce me after I did everything for her" and things like that and found out about it.  Did not know how many many men get stung in their divorce...literally in "normal society" no one even talks about it.

Thank goodness for punting.. no need to be bitter now. I can enjoy and appreciate women without having to commit.

It's the sad reality of today's climate. I would love to be married but how divorce laws are I will never gamble with such a thing. Only relationship I will entertain is short term relationships or long term relationships with cohabitation agreement in place. Children has crossed my mind every now and then but I don't know if I could handle having my kids taken away from me to only see them every so often if the relationship fails. That and families that are not married are more likely to separate than married couple from couple a statistics I have seen.

That said can't do any of those things with this lockdown anyways.

[sgc]

A gamble indeed. The chances of a second marriage ending in divorce is around 65 percent.... I am not going to gamble with those odds.. Too broke for marriage anyway and even dating for the moment so I'm going to carry on punting for the moment .. Haha 😂

[Gambitman92]

OK Chad/bad boy .

But seriously when I said I got a head start on not focusing on girls in my 20's, it meant that I can focus on my goals rather than dates. And how do you know that I have not meet up with women? I have dated in the past and some have been good and others been bad but again it takes time and effect to just go on a date and not get second or third date.

Maybe your getting dates from these ladies thanks to you being attractive, being a body builder and hence why it's easy for you. It's easy for you to say just be yourself and meet women but not everyone is gifted as you. I don't know what am not one making clams of who people are. That said I am aren't blind to reality unlike you and maybe you will learn the hard way which I don't want you to experience mind you. You pal has a great marriage. Great but that's like small % of married couples who are happy. Large % of couples are miserable and you have to look at threads of why married punters are here in the first place  .

If your on here then why make such a comment that the bigger questions though.

And calling me an incel 

I hope you know what that means as I would not make such comments as I did early. End of the day it's not backward thinking, it is thinking logically and from reading your response you got but hurt that one man is not dating women on a escort site.

I never called you an incel, your views are backwards imo, they're not the reality, there's good and bad everywhere, but you make it out like the majority of women are bad which isn't true. I said stop listening to incels, I know you're not one.

I'm not gifted, there are gyms around every high street corner, there's no talent in lifting pieces of metal over and over lol. My body helps sure (my face is a 4/10) but these girls won't go anywhere near me if I wasn't also nice to them. Looks help but your personality is more important.

The divorce stats are a bit misleading, lots of people get married for the wrong reasons, lots of people get lazy and stop putting in the effort. How many older married couples take care of each others needs, go on date nights, go travelling, go to clubs, go to the gym together etc etc a lot don't.

It's easier to get sex these days than ever before, most of the girls our age are a lot more open to sex than the older generation, I know plenty of girls that will date/marry for love while my mothers single friends won't marry someone unless he takes care of them financially.

I agree that there are married punters who aren't getting sex at home but there some that said they do get sex but still punt because they're either not attracted to their wives or they just want to bang 22 year old models.

Lastly, I am not butt hurt, even I won't date a current wg, but the people saying that dating former wgs is wrong because they belong to the streets and that all former wgs have something wrong with them is just stupid.

Not are punters are the same just like not all wgs are the same, one might do drugs will the other is straight edge, one is doing it just for the money and can easily stop this job and live a normal life while another loves the rush and might continue working behind your back.

[mace-window]

I never called you an incel, your views are backwards imo, they're not the reality, there's good and bad everywhere, but you make it out like the majority of women are bad which isn't true. I said stop listening to incels, I know you're not one.

I'm not gifted, there are gyms around every high street corner, there's no talent in lifting pieces of metal over and over lol. My body helps sure (my face is a 4/10) but these girls won't go anywhere near me if I wasn't also nice to them. Looks help but your personality is more important.

The divorce stats are a bit misleading, lots of people get married for the wrong reasons, lots of people get lazy and stop putting in the effort. How many older married couples take care of each others needs, go on date nights, go travelling, go to clubs, go to the gym together etc etc a lot don't.

It's easier to get sex these days than ever before, most of the girls our age are a lot more open to sex than the older generation, I know plenty of girls that will date/marry for love while my mothers single friends won't marry someone unless he takes care of them financially.

I agree that there are married punters who aren't getting sex at home but there some that said they do get sex but still punt because they're either not attracted to their wives or they just want to bang 22 year old models.

Lastly, I am not butt hurt, even I won't date a current wg, but the people saying that dating former wgs is wrong because they belong to the streets and that all former wgs have something wrong with them is just stupid.

Not are punters are the same just like not all wgs are the same, one might do drugs will the other is straight edge, one is doing it just for the money and can easily stop this job and live a normal life while another loves the rush and might continue working behind your back.

Tell me Gambitman92 what incels am I listening to? Do you even know what an incel is in the first place. Give you a hint, they still want to get married and be with a women. The problem is that they can't as their self esteem is so low and got very unlucky with the genetic lottery. There for don't believe in relationships, Heck they would never be on a site like this. So who as you can read my mind, what type of incel am I listening to?

Next I agree that lot of couples are lazy to work on their relationships though from reading through threads here it's the women who aren't putting the effect though take that with a pinch of salt. With that I highly find punters who still see escorts while the wife is putting the work in the relationship unmoral. It's very unfair and rarely you will find a woman who is keeping the relationship passion alive but those punters are ruining it. That said those type of punters are the bloodly minority from reading threads here.

And finally Chad, you are butt hurt. If you were not you would not be watching the other thread I was in about dating escorts and come here telling me to grow up. Maybe you need to do some growing mate and not get so emotionally. Besides your getting all the girls with you amazing personality and muscles you got. That and you think divorce rates are misleading without any proof to show the real divorce rates. Strangely I to go to been going to the gym for 3 years and trust me the married guys I lift with tell me different story about there marriage life. Anyways you live your life and I live my life.
Chill, enjoy the 4-6/10 attractive ladies you are getting from OKcupid (same site that did a survey that found 80% of average males are unattractive by females). Heck you could get with former escort and tell us how it went after the relationship is over.

[sgc]

Gambit, I fully understand your way of thinking as I thought exactly the same way in my mid -20s. You are ambitious young man and that is commendable. I would not really worry too much about these threads because unless you have been stung badly in a divorce (despite trying your hardest in a marriage)  it is very hard to understand. If you wish to research female hypergamy I would recommend it because I will agree with Mace, it is not a good idea to date former escorts as this is known as white knighting and leads to know where good. I hated hearing all this at your age but just be careful out there - I have known far too many people and kids that have been destroyed by divorce- the stats do not lie. Protect yourself and of course it is your life and you have to live it. Long term relationships/ marriages are a part of our existence and no one should deny you that pleasure.

At least we all agree that being an incel is not a great way of thinking. I know someone who has gone down that path and in my opinion it is quite a toxic way of thinking. It is hard to explain but red pill men do not hate women at all. It is about seeing objective reality and understanding female nature.

As for divorce statistics they are sadly are not great reading. I got my 65% of second marriages ending in divorce wrong- that was from America. However I will source my statistics this time from a reputable source- External Link/Members Only- 60% of marriages end in divorce by the 20th anniversary and 62% are initiated by the wife meaning that there is a 37% chance of your wife initiating and carrying out a divorce by your 20th wedding anniversary.

[Mr Sinister]

I know and dated plenty of nice, down to earth, attractive women who are just looking for some one decent looking with a good heart.

Nah women are looking for providers, been like that since the dawn of time when men used to spend all day out hunting to provide for the woman and family in the cave. Same as today, they want you to provide the emotion, attention, stability, money, dick and all other things that fall under it.

Sex at times isn't as important as long as you provide, women will drop you quick if you fail to provide the nice things, even move onto someone else while still in a relationship. They are constantly on the market looking for providers subconsciously especially if she is very attractive and ambitious.

Yes I swallowed the red pill, the basis of it is self improvement first and foremost, your health, body, mind and wealth getting as high up to the tree as you can. Also to hold your masculinity, reject certain Western narratives and bad vices like porn. Funny many male movements gets attacked by the media, the left, liberals etc... but fails to mention these aspects, wonder why?

The aspect of it in relation to women is about protecting what you have built as it can be easily lost, I've been out dating and fucking quality women the rp has shown me a completely different light since I no longer put up with the bs they throw at me. It has made me understand them more and not to commit without knowing the ins and outs. There is a lot to it, for relationships, marriages even, you don't have to abide to everything RP religiously cause too much of anything is bad for you.

Hello to my fellow Redpillers.

[mace-window]

Nah women are looking for providers, been like that since the dawn of time when men used to spend all day out hunting to provide for the woman and family in the cave. Same as today, they want you to provide the emotion, attention, stability, money, dick and all other things that fall under it.

Sex at times isn't as important as long as you provide, women will drop you quick if you fail to provide the nice things, even move onto someone else while still in a relationship. They are constantly on the market looking for providers subconsciously especially if she is very attractive and ambitious.

Yes I swallowed the red pill, the basis of it is self improvement first and foremost, your health, body, mind and wealth getting as high up to the tree as you can. Also to hold your masculinity, reject certain Western narratives and bad vices like porn. Funny many male movements gets attacked by the media, the left, liberals etc... but fails to mention these aspects, wonder why?

The aspect of it in relation to women is about protecting what you have built as it can be easily lost, I've been out dating and fucking quality women the rp has shown me a completely different light since I no longer put up with the bs they throw at me. It has made me understand them more and not to commit without knowing the ins and outs. There is a lot to it, for relationships, marriages even, you don't have to abide to everything RP religiously cause too much of anything is bad for you.

Hello to my fellow Redpillers.

With what I been seeing recently, I thought I was only one who knew this type of information. But it great that some people here are awake in times like these.

[mace-window]

Gambit, I fully understand your way of thinking as I thought exactly the same way in my mid -20s. You are ambitious young man and that is commendable. I would not really worry too much about these threads because unless you have been stung badly in a divorce (despite trying your hardest in a marriage)  it is very hard to understand. If you wish to research female hypergamy I would recommend it because I will agree with Mace, it is not a good idea to date former escorts as this is known as white knighting and leads to know where good. I hated hearing all this at your age but just be careful out there - I have known far too many people and kids that have been destroyed by divorce- the stats do not lie. Protect yourself and of course it is your life and you have to live it. Long term relationships/ marriages are a part of our existence and no one should deny you that pleasure.

At least we all agree that being an incel is not a great way of thinking. I know someone who has gone down that path and in my opinion it is quite a toxic way of thinking. It is hard to explain but red pill men do not hate women at all. It is about seeing objective reality and understanding female nature.

As for divorce statistics they are sadly are not great reading. I got my 65% of second marriages ending in divorce wrong- that was from America. However I will source my statistics this time from a reputable source- External Link/Members Only- 60% of marriages end in divorce by the 20th anniversary and 62% are initiated by the wife meaning that there is a 37% chance of your wife initiating and carrying out a divorce by your 20th wedding anniversary.

Very wise words indeed.

[Thephoenix]

It does seem that marriage as an institution is declining.

In my parent's generation, married in the 40's  very few marriages ended in divorce.

In my generation, married in the 60's, there were some divorces, but all my friends and family of similar age are still together.

In my children's generation, married in the 80's,  quite a few are now divorced,  so yes marriage is obviously declining.

I'm still wondering what sort of family unit you young blades think is a better option to raise children?

Oh and yes.... This old codger had to google what a 'red piller' is...... definitely not me I'm glad to say.

[superman64]

It does seem that marriage as an institution is declining.

In my parent's generation, married in the 40's  very few marriages ended in divorce.

In my generation, married in the 60's, there were some divorces, but all my friends and family of similar age are still together.

In my children's generation, married in the 80's,  quite a few are now divorced,  so yes marriage is obviously declining.

I'm still wondering what sort of family unit you young blades think is a better option to raise children?

Oh and yes.... This old codger had to google what a 'red piller' is...... definitely not me I'm glad to say.

The end goal is that children will be birthed by the mothers but they'll spend all their time being distracted by the revolving door of boyfriends and social media that the children will be completely mailable by the time to be brainwashed in primary school into becoming eunuchs.

[emraw]

Never been interested in marriage personally, I'm 30. Always thought I would one day though just to appease people.  Just started a new relationship in lockdown with someone I met off fab - she's different to anyone I've been with and although not done anything about it yet have both said we have no intentions of being monogamous - want to go to clubs together and couple swap - not go out and date separately.

I'm intrigued how long this will last but at the moment feels great