Horoscopes and Clairvoyants

[mr.bluesky]

Does anybody religiously read their daily horoscope and believe it  or like me think that it's all a load of bollocks.
I am pretty sure everybody knows what their starsign is but as regards horoscopes it's all a load of old tosh and here's my reason why. If the population of the UK is about 65 million then for example there will be say a few million who are born under the star sign of say Aries. A prediction in that days horoscope might say " you are going to meet an old friend you haven't seen for a long time" now with a few million people who are Aries there is an odd chance this will actually happen to someone who's starsign is Aries due to the law of averages rather than any other reason so it's not fate it's purely down to the law of averages. As regards clairevoyants they are all fake because lets be honest nobody predicted the current situation that we currently find ourselves in.That's my theory   

[scutty brown]

Plenty of people predicted the novel coronovirus, it was a matter of "when" not "if".

[Beamer]

Does anybody religiously read their daily horoscope and believe it  or like me think that it's all a load of bollocks.
I am pretty sure everybody knows what their starsign is but as regards horoscopes it's all a load of old tosh and here's my reason why. If the population of the UK is about 65 million then for example there will be say a few million who are born under the star sign of say Aries. A prediction in that days horoscope might say " you are going to meet an old friend you haven't seen for a long time" now with a few million people who are Aries there is an odd chance this will actually happen to someone who's starsign is Aries due to the law of averages rather than any other reason so it's not fate it's purely down to the law of averages. As regards clairevoyants they are all fake because lets be honest nobody predicted the current situation that we currently find ourselves in.That's my theory   

I'm with you Mr B.
Although I know an intelligent couple who religiously read their Stars every day.
Each to their own!!

[threechilliman]

Does anybody religiously read their daily horoscope and believe it  or like me think that it's all a load of bollocks.
I am pretty sure everybody knows what their starsign is but as regards horoscopes it's all a load of old tosh and here's my reason why. If the population of the UK is about 65 million then for example there will be say a few million who are born under the star sign of say Aries. A prediction in that days horoscope might say " you are going to meet an old friend you haven't seen for a long time" now with a few million people who are Aries there is an odd chance this will actually happen to someone who's starsign is Aries due to the law of averages rather than any other reason so it's not fate it's purely down to the law of averages. As regards clairevoyants they are all fake because lets be honest nobody predicted the current situation that we currently find ourselves in.That's my theory   

No need to give a reason. It's a load of old cobblers, end of.

[Beamer]

No need to give a reason. It's a load of old cobblers, end of.

No fence sitting here 

[smiths]

Its a load of old shit in my view but its been amazing the number of women I have met in my life who believed in Horoscopes.

[Boundless]

It does make me laugh that AW has a starsign question in the profile section.

Has anyone on here decided to/not to visit an SP based on that?

I did upset one girl though when I asked can I put a Mars up Uranus.

[MissWolf]

Does anybody religiously read their daily horoscope and believe it  or like me think that it's all a load of bollocks.
I am pretty sure everybody knows what their starsign is but as regards horoscopes it's all a load of old tosh and here's my reason why. If the population of the UK is about 65 million then for example there will be say a few million who are born under the star sign of say Aries. A prediction in that days horoscope might say " you are going to meet an old friend you haven't seen for a long time" now with a few million people who are Aries there is an odd chance this will actually happen to someone who's starsign is Aries due to the law of averages rather than any other reason so it's not fate it's purely down to the law of averages. As regards clairevoyants they are all fake because lets be honest nobody predicted the current situation that we currently find ourselves in.That's my theory   

But but I'm an Aries 

Horoscopes are utter tosh.
My view on clairvoyants is less mild, my issue comes with the power of suggestion that these charlatans employ.
The power of suggestion on an open and vulnerable mind is something I find quite concerning,  to tell someone their future,  to map it out for them when they are looking for 'guidance' is enough for them to unconsciously manoeuvre themselves in that direction in life.

I may be wrong of course 

[mr.bluesky]

Its a load of old shit in my view but its been amazing the number of women I have met in my life who believed in Horoscopes.

I think women tend to believe in them more than men do

[David1970]

Russell Grant has been making money for stupid people for years.

[Doc Holliday]

Wow ... I never saw this thread coming.

[catweazle]

I remember the old story of a local club announcing that "the planned evening of clairvoyance has had to be cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances".

[mr.bluesky]

Wow ... I never saw this thread coming.

  you haven't been looking in your crystal ball then Doc.

[mr.bluesky]

Russell Grant has been making money for stupid people for years.

 



I wonder if Mystic Meg saw her axing from the live lottery draw show 

[Blackpool Rock]

 



I wonder if Mystic Meg saw her axing from the live lottery draw show 

No but by a strange coincidence she got 6 numbers the week before 

[Strawberry]

Chance, coincidence.

People like something to believe it, once had tarot explained fascinating.

[winkywanky]

I saw a medium many years ago.

I'm naturally a sceptic but the stuff he knew about me, and as it later became apparent to me, who he got the info from, completely blew my mind. They'd been dead 20yrs, and the stuff they knew about me had happened since they'd died, and came via a common relative (still alive). The relative didn't know I was going to see a medium.

When I phoned this relative with details from the meeting, they nearly fell over. I'd also found out stuff about them, also from this person on the other side, which I never knew, and would never have known. Sorry if it all sounds a bit cryptic, I don't want to give too much away. But I know for sure everything was real and bonafide. Spooky as fuck  .

The medium didn't know me from Adam, and the appointment was made through his secretary anyway. I didn't give a surname, there was no way they could have known anything about me. No-one in my family had ever met this medium. I got his name from a local paper at the time. His name is Andy Kane and last I heard he'd started a practice down on the south coast.

I guess that all tells me there is indeed something on the other side, any more than that I don't know, and I don't care to delve any further.

[rocket88]

I think women tend to believe in them more than men do

Yeah,my OH believes this crap,she has even attended seances 'is anybody there' and all that guff. Recently the lockdown has been getting to me and told her it was all bollox and that she might as well believe in Father Christmas. Result : D&D breakfast for a couple of days - which is not necessarily a bad thing 

[daviemac]

I saw a medium many years ago.

I'm naturally a sceptic but the stuff he knew about me, and as it later became apparent to me, who he got the info from, completely blew my mind. They'd been dead 20yrs, and the stuff they knew about me had happened since they'd died, and came via a common relative (still alive). The relative didn't know I was going to see a medium.

When I phoned this relative with details from the meeting, they nearly fell over. I'd also found out stuff about them, also from this person on the other side, which I never knew, and would never have known. Sorry if it all sounds a bit cryptic, I don't want to give too much away. But I know for sure everything was real and bonafide. Spooky as fuck  .

The medium didn't know me from Adam, and the appointment was made through his secretary anyway. I didn't give a surname, there was no way they could have known anything about me. No-one in my family had ever met this medium. I got his name from a local paper at the time. His name is Andy Kane and last I heard he'd started a practice down on the south coast.

I guess that all tells me there is indeed something on the other side, any more than that I don't know, and I don't care to delve any further.

I went to one once at a friend's house, my then wife, who was a bit younger than me, went in first, she was told a few things that she could relate to, including that she had two young kids.  When I went there was no mention of me having young kids. She told me she could see my grandfather with his 'mucky' hands after work saying 'never mind where there's muck there's money'. The only time he had dirty hands was if he fell over in the garden. Massive fail.

 

[winkywanky]

There are of course many fakes, and ultimately people are desperate to hear of their dear, departed loved ones. The fakes prey on that and it's despicable.

I can only speak as I find, there were many weird things that were completely inexplicable in the case of my meeting, but completely true as I subsequently found out. One of the things he said to me at the time was 'a lot of this might be meaningless to you now but later on it will make sense'. For that very purpose he made a cassette recording of it, which I still have to this day. It was 20yrs ago. Over the next couple of weeks, with reference to the tape and speaking to a couple of relatives, my jaw dropped several times.

It's the type of thing you never believe until it happens to you, and undertsandably so.

[winkywanky]

I went to one once at a friend's house, my then wife, who was a bit younger than me, went in first, she was told a few things that she could relate to, including that she had two young kids. When I went there was no mention of me having young kids. She told me she could see my grandfather with his 'mucky' hands after work saying 'never mind where there's muck there's money'. The only time he had dirty hands was if he fell over in the garden. Massive fail.

This is the type of vague bollocks which gives mediums a bad name.

Most women of a certain age had two kids. Most people's grandads would have worked in manual labour, and any medium could get an idea of your background just from talking to you for one minute.

[daviemac]

This is the type of vague bollocks which gives mediums a bad name.

Most women of a certain age had two kids. Most people's grandads would have worked in manual labour, and any medium could get an idea of your background just from talking to you for one minute.

Oh I didn't say a word to her apart from "right"  or "OK", I didn't give anything away. But you're right my ex was of the age to have two young kids and I was of the age to have grandkids and a grandad who would be working when the mines and the railways were by far the biggest employers. My ex on the other hand couldn't stop talking and would be feeding info back all the time.

[winkywanky]

Oh I didn't say a word to her apart from "right"  or "OK", I didn't give anything away. But you're right my ex was of the age to have two young kids and I was of the age to have grandkids and a grandad who would be working when the mines and the railways were by far the biggest employers. My ex on the other hand couldn't stop talking and would be feeding info back all the time.

Yes, she'll be wanting it to be true and giving away all kinds of info and signals, even unwittingly.

For my meeting I simply walked in and said hello, and was directed to sit down. Then he said just give me a moment ******. After about 1min of him sitting there in concentration he just basically went into a whole stream of stuff about me, starting off with what I like about you ****** is that blah, blah, blah... and he basically had me down to a tee.

Then came all the family stuff which blew me away, and that's not even including the other half which I only realised afterwrads when I played the tape back.

I was pretty well stunned. I said very little for the whole meeting, he did all the talking. He even offered a free second meeting if there was anything I wanted to go over.

[winkywanky]

He knew about my work, my type of work, and one thing he came out with sent a shiver down my spine: this other living relative who I consulted afterwards, he always said to me you should go to America, you'd do really well there. My job was kind of related to his 'job' and I'd done a little bit of work for him. It's a specific and unusual job.

So Andy basically told me this, from the POV of our shared relative, by now deceased for 20yrs. This is something so specific. There were about five or six other specific things too, which he could never in a million years have known.

It was real. I don't know what else to say really  .

[Chorley]

Load of old pony. I got dragged to one of these by a work colleague and a family member.
I thought as I was there I'd ask him about a departed family member.

 However, the smarmy cunt kept ignoring me and my friend and aunty whenever we put our hands up and only answered queries from a handful of attendees who I'm convinced were plants. 

. I got so pissed off I confronted him in the break and told him that I thought he was a complete bullshitter and that he  was preying on peoples grief and insecurity.

He didn't take kindly to this and had me and my party chucked out.  Cunt!   

[daviemac]

He knew about my work, my type of work, and one thing he came out with sent a shiver down my spine: this other living relative who I consulted afterwards, he always said to me you should go to America, you'd do really well there. My job was kind of related to his 'job' and I'd done a little bit of work for him. It's a specific and unusual job.

So Andy basically told me this, from the POV of our shared relative, by now deceased for 20yrs. This is something so specific. There were about five or six other specific things too, which he could never in a million years have known.

It was real. I don't know what else to say really  .

I can't explain it mate, I just know once you're dead you're dead, no tunnels with white lights at the end, no floating out of your body looking down, just like fainting or going to sleep.

[winkywanky]

I think the people who hold Clairvoyancy Evenings are almost certainly charlatans, and they do use plants. They make a lot of money too.

If you see someone face-to-face you probably have more chance of seeing someone who genuinely has the gift or whatever they call it.

[winkywanky]

I can't explain it mate, I just know once you're dead you're dead, no tunnels with white lights at the end, no floating out of your body looking down, just like fainting or going to sleep.

Funny you should mention that, due to my childhood asthma, when I had a couple of operations when I was very young, I was put out with the gas, no pre-med knockout. And similarly, when I had a tooth out at around 16. And there was the time I was in an RTA and got carted off to hospital in the back of an ambulance and was given nitrous oxide to self-administer.

On all those occasions I had out of body experiences, yes, floating above my body. The early experiences I can out down to being young and imagination, the ambulance I was in and out of consciousness so I can't count that, but for the dentist at age 16, I remember seeing the dentist pull out my tooth. It wasn't a pretty sight! 

Again, that could have been imagination I guess, but some people have had discussions with surgeons after operations where they share information which they couldn't possibly have known.

[daviemac]

Funny you should mention that, due to my childhood asthma, when I had a couple of operations when I was very young, I was put out with the gas, no pre-med knockout. And similarly, when I had a tooth out at around 16. And there was the time I was in an RTA and got carted off to hospital in the back of an ambulance and was given nitrous oxide to self-administer.

On all those occasions I had out of body experiences, yes, floating above my body. The early experiences I can out down to being young and imagination, the ambulance I was in and out of consciousness so I can't count that, but for the dentist at age 16, I remember seeing the dentist pull out my tooth. It wasn't a pretty sight! 

Again, that could have been imagination I guess, but some people have had discussions with surgeons after operations where they share information which they couldn't possibly have known.

Believe me, when you die you die.

[winkywanky]

Believe me, when you die you die.

Tell you what, tell me when you get there.

Oh...  

[winkywanky]

I'm seriously not taking the piss, it's one of those things that you'll never believe until you experience it for yourself, and of course you may never do so.

All I can do is speak as I find, and the stuff he said all made sense, there was no filler, and he couldn't possibly have known by any other means.

The out of body stuff, well I always thought that was a fertile imagination and possibly it actually is, although the experience with this medium made me reconsider that.

You cannot possibly know for sure, and as far as you're concerned, nor can I. That's fine  .

[daviemac]

Tell you what, tell me when you get there.

Oh...  

I can't there's nothing there. Unless there some sort of delay in proceedings.

CPR, which you know nothing about and a defibrillator put me in the 26% who survive.   

[winkywanky]

davie, I feel loath to say this because you're the Mod here, but this conversation is going nowhere, everything that's gonna be said has been said. Quit while we're ahead 

[winkywanky]

I can't there's nothing there. Unless there some sort of delay in proceedings.

CPR, which you know nothing about and a defibrillator put me in the 26% who survive.   

Re: your edit, I had no idea and I'm glad you're still here.

One thing I was told is that you don't just turn up on the other side instantly, it doesn't work like that. But like I say, this isn't provable either way.

[daviemac]

Re: your edit, I had no idea and I'm glad you're still here.

One thing I was told is that you don't just turn up on the other side instantly, it doesn't work like that. But like I say, this isn't provable either way.

Fortunately I was in hospital otherwise the survival rate is only 10%. It's just like being asleep, you don't know anything until you wake up, if you do.  It not half gets them panicking.   

[Head1]

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Learnt something about Head1 today.

 

[winkywanky]

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PS Head1, thanks for confirming the bit about the waiting room, Winstone put it a lot better than I could 

[Bonker]

I'm part gypsy and all women are safe with me.
Why? I have Crystal balls and they can see me coming.

[Ali Katt]

Does anybody religiously read their daily horoscope and believe it  or like me think that it's all a load of bollocks.
I am pretty sure everybody knows what their starsign is but as regards horoscopes it's all a load of old tosh and here's my reason why. If the population of the UK is about 65 million then for example there will be say a few million who are born under the star sign of say Aries. A prediction in that days horoscope might say " you are going to meet an old friend you haven't seen for a long time" now with a few million people who are Aries there is an odd chance this will actually happen to someone who's starsign is Aries due to the law of averages rather than any other reason so it's not fate it's purely down to the law of averages. As regards clairevoyants they are all fake because lets be honest nobody predicted the current situation that we currently find ourselves in.That's my theory   

Horoscopes I have no interest. Astrology itself I find very interesting.

[Hobbit]

I saw this woman in Greenwich market many years ago who owned a shop with lots of bottles of mystical oil and she was recommended to me by a friend. When I got there she asked me to choose a bottle from the shelf which I did. She then started to tell me things about my life which some were generic but a few of the things she said were quite specific and quite surprising. She then asked me if I would purchase the bottle and all I had to do was use the oil every day for a few months and it would change my life for the better. However, she said that the only thing is that things would get dramatically worse before the change occurs. To which I said, no thanks and made my merry way back home.

I think the place is still there and I did pop back their couple of years ago but the South African lady was not working there any more and they had new staff.

I kinda do believe in people being able to tell your future but at the same time, I also think what's the point of knowing something if it cannot be changed. Or can it?

[winkywanky]

I saw this woman in Greenwich market many years ago who owned a shop with lots of bottles of mystical oil and she was recommended to me by a friend. When I got there she asked me to choose a bottle from the shelf which I did. She then started to tell me things about my life which some were generic but a few of the things she said were quite specific and quite surprising. She then asked me if I would purchase the bottle and all I had to do was use the oil every day for a few months and it would change my life for the better. However, she said that the only thing is that things would get dramatically worse before the change occurs. To which I said, no thanks and made my merry way back home.

I think the place is still there and I did pop back their couple of years ago but the South African lady was not working there any more and they had new staff.

I kinda do believe in people being able to tell your future but at the same time, I also think what's the point of knowing something if it cannot be changed. Or can it?

Whatever you thought about her 'analysis', clearly she was trying to sell you (almost literally) snake oil. Voodoo shit. Avoid.

[Arfa2stroke]

Horoscopes and astrology an absolute load of made up bollocks , but then again, us Gemini’s are known to be sceptical

[Hobbit]

Whatever you thought about her 'analysis', clearly she was trying to sell you (almost literally) snake oil. Voodoo shit. Avoid.

Actually, I don't think it was voodoo shit. But I was glad not to purchase it. In fact, I did see her again after a year as she said she did some inner child therapy work and I thought it would help as I hadn't experienced that before. It turned out to be nothing but a load of rubbish. I think my inner child is nothing but a dirty old fucker that lusts on female flesh. 

[ulstersubbie]

Horoscopes and astrology an absolute load of made up bollocks , but then again, us Gemini’s are known to be sceptical

Very good.   

The odd thing for me though, my best ever sessions have been with ladies who were Scorpios and yes I am a Scorpio.   

[Ali Katt]

Very good.   

The odd thing for me though, my best ever sessions have been with ladies who were Scorpios and yes I am a Scorpio.   

Do they not feel uneasy around you due to you being Scorpio? I've had some great sex with scorpios, but scorpios are difficult they try not to give stuff away and can be close guarded.

[winkywanky]

Do they not feel uneasy around you due to you being Scorpio? I've had some great sex with scorpios, but scorpios are difficult they try not to give stuff away and can be close guarded.

Not only that, a hell of a sting in the tail if you piss them off.

[Ali Katt]

Not only that, a hell of a sting in the tail if you piss them off.

Allegedly. You can read the signs and see it coming if you go in with both eyes open. The reason why they can be ahead is they store information and keep it to use at the right moment, that said it depends on other factors of their zodiac and like anything else, you get good and bad, stupid and smart with any sign.

[ulstersubbie]

Not only that, a hell of a sting in the tail if you piss them off.

WW you know how much I enjoy a single tail whip!