Disrespectful Twat

[Blackpool Rock]

Surprised this hasn't already been posted about but i'm sure whatever your politics we'd all agree this individual deserves to get charged after urinating on PC Keith Palmers memorial 

I recall there was a woman about 5 years ago who pissed on the War Memorial on Blackpool prom one night.
Can't remember what punishment she got but there was a crowd of people including war veterans and members of the British Legion outside the court all shouting shame on you as she walked past 

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[winkywanky]

Surprised this hasn't already been posted about but i'm sure whatever your politics we'd all agree this individual deserves to get charged after urinating on PC Keith Palmers memorial 

I recall there was a woman about 5 years ago who pissed on the War Memorial on Blackpool prom one night.
Can't remember what punishment she got but there was a crowd of people including war veterans and members of the British Legion outside the court all shouting shame on you as she walked past 

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It has already been mentioned here.

I actually suspect the guy wasn't intentionally peeing on the memorial, he was peeing down the side of it. I think he was just a drunken twat needing a pee, the picture I've seen shows him peeing in the corner of the fence and the memorial, not directly on it. He's trying to pee 'in a quiet corner' and shield himself.

Think I'm right in saying he was one of the Right Wing Football Twats who was tanked up, I see no reason why he would intentionally pee on the memorial to a copper who was protecting parliament from an Islamic nutter?

I think he was just a gormless, racist cunt desperately needing a pee, and going in the most convenient place 

[Beamer]

It has already been mentioned here.

I actually suspect the guy wasn't intentionally peeing on the memorial, he was peeing down the side of it. I think he was just a drunken twat needing a pee, the picture I've seen shows him peeing in the corner of the fence and the memorial, not directly on it. He's trying to pee 'in a quiet corner' and shield himself.

Think I'm right in saying he was one of the Right Wing Football Twats who was tanked up, I see no reason why he would intentionally pee on the memorial to a copper who was protecting parliament from an Islamic nutter?

I think he was just a gormless, racist cunt desperately needing a pee, and going in the most convenient place 

I reported it yesterday. Guy has been jailed for 2 weeks, rightly so!

[Blackpool Rock]

It has already been mentioned here.

I actually suspect the guy wasn't intentionally peeing on the memorial, he was peeing down the side of it. I think he was just a drunken twat needing a pee, the picture I've seen shows him peeing in the corner of the fence and the memorial, not directly on it. He's trying to pee 'in a quiet corner' and shield himself.

Think I'm right in saying he was one of the Right Wing Football Twats who was tanked up, I see no reason why he would intentionally pee on the memorial to a copper who was protecting parliament from an Islamic nutter?

I think he was just a gormless, racist cunt desperately needing a pee, and going in the most convenient place 

I did look for a thread but didn't see one so presumably it's mentioned somewhere within a thread that I haven't read.

Agree with your other comments that he probably didn't target that memorial but it's not hard to take a look at it and think "Not there", like you say some mindless pissed up thug who will also claim to love his country, England's finest 

[Blackpool Rock]

I reported it yesterday. Guy has been jailed for 2 weeks, rightly so!

Yeah just seen the story has been updated

Prosecutor Michael Mallon said Banks, a Tottenham Hotspur fan, was in central London to "protect statues", but admitted he did not know which statues. 

He was said to have drunk 16 pints during Friday night into Saturday morning, and had not been to sleep

[Adoniron]

16 pints?
Was it a serious mission to protect the statues or an excuse for a trip to London for a piss-up?

[RAJEC]

This guy and his mates were just out looking for trouble.

16 pints, pissing on statues, fighting the police and generally looking like a bunch of uneducated twats - should we say they’re reflective of the majority of our English population?

[Chorley]

It was patently obvious that these "patriots" were just a bunch of pissed up footy hooligans who just wanted a ruck with whoever was about. Twats!

[AnthG]

It was patently obvious that these "patriots" were just a bunch of pissed up footy hooligans who just wanted a ruck with whoever was about. Twats!

So one man, you extrapolate it to the whole entire group.....ok...

[winkywanky]

I reported it yesterday. Guy has been jailed for 2 weeks, rightly so!

Bloody good job too 

[Chorley]

So one man, you extrapolate it to the whole entire group.....ok...

Oh dear.  Jumping to concusions again Anth? 

I've nothing but complete respect for the ex service personal and decent people who went there to protect the statues and have their say. I'd probably be doing the same as I don't condone wanton destruction. I was talking specifically about the ones who were blatantly there for a piss up and a fight.

 Look at the videos on social media and  various news sites and it was bleeding obvious what their intention was.

[winkywanky]

This guy and his mates were just out looking for trouble.

16 pints, pissing on statues, fighting the police and generally looking like a bunch of uneducated twats - should we say they’re reflective of the majority of our English population?

Of course not, and despite the fact that a large number of this lot undoubtedly did have a RW political agenda, the amount of arrests made were similar to the BLM demo stats.

Also from what I can make out, about twice as many police were injured at the BLM demos than at the latest demos.

[RAJEC]

Of course not, and despite the fact that a large number of this lot undoubtedly did have a RW political agenda, the amount of arrests made were similar to the BLM demo stats.

Also from what I can make out, about twice as many police were injured at the BLM demos than at the latest demos.

Oh come on mate, where’s your sense of humour?? 

[AnthG]

Oh dear.  Jumping to concusions again Anth?   

Whoa, two words in your first post changed the entire context of what you were stating. I will now bold them

It was patently obvious that these "patriots" were just a bunch of pissed up footy hooligans who just wanted a ruck with whoever was about. Twats!

And this is what I referred to. You have seemingly extrapolated the actions of one man to the group as a whole, from those two words

And just to add, not relating to you, but on this issue in general, the law of equivalency doesn't seem to apply. We have had a weekend were people have been attacking memorials, setting fire to them, spray painting them, ripping them down and doing all sorts to them. And the police stand back and do nothing. Purposefully.

This guy, does this, which was wrong, but he gets two weeks in prison.

Where was the two weeks prison sentence to the person who set fire to the union jack flag, or threw paint onto the Abraham Lincoln and Churchil memorials?

[yandex]

This guy and his mates were just out looking for trouble.

16 pints, pissing on statues, fighting the police and generally looking like a bunch of uneducated twats - should we say they’re reflective of the majority of our English population?

Tha majority - absolutely not. A small but significant minority, sadly, yes

[winkywanky]

Oh come on mate, where’s your sense of humour?? 

I have a well-honed sense of humour which hopefully you've noticed on here. But it perhaps isn't always appropriate when we're talking about serious issues like BAME issues and race relations.

I'm also pointing out that despite the BLM demos being grounded in the altruism of equal opportunities and treatment for all, regardless of race or colour, nevertheless there was plenty violence, female coppers knocked off horses and more coppers hospitalised than at last weekend's demos.

[yandex]

Of course you could just have easily put

This guy and his mates were just out looking for trouble.

16 pints, 5 G & Ts, pissing on statues, fighting the police and generally looking like a bunch of uneducated twats - should we say they’re reflective of the majority of our English population?

And my answer would be the same

[Chorley]

Whoa, two words in your first post changed the entire context of what you were stating. I will now bold them

And this is what I referred to. You have seemingly extrapolated the actions of one man to the group as a whole, from those two words

And just to add, not relating to you, but on this issue in general, the law of equivalency doesn't seem to apply. We have had a weekend were people have been attacking memorials, setting fire to them, spray painting them, ripping them down and doing all sorts to them. And the police stand back and do nothing. Purposefully.

This guy, does this, which was wrong, but he gets two weeks in prison.

Where was the two weeks prison sentence to the person who set fire to the union jack flag, or threw paint onto the Abraham Lincoln and Churchil memorials?

Those people should be charged and imprisoned as well. Maybe they have?  Twats are twats, regardless of race, creed or colour.

[Adoniron]

Those people should be charged and imprisoned as well. Maybe they have?  Twats are twats, regardless of race, creed or colour.

Isn't that the whole point? Everybody should receive the same treatment from the criminal justice system, regardless of their colour?

[NIK]

It has already been mentioned here.

I actually suspect the guy wasn't intentionally peeing on the memorial, he was peeing down the side of it. I think he was just a drunken twat needing a pee, the picture I've seen shows him peeing in the corner of the fence and the memorial, not directly on it. He's trying to pee 'in a quiet corner' and shield himself.

Think I'm right in saying he was one of the Right Wing Football Twats who was tanked up, I see no reason why he would intentionally pee on the memorial to a copper who was protecting parliament from an Islamic nutter?

I think he was just a gormless, racist cunt desperately needing a pee, and going in the most convenient place 

Totally agree. Obviously not excusing it and he deserves his punishment, but the initial reports - biased and inaccurate as ever- suggested he was urinating on it. The first thing I noticed when I saw it was that he wasn't actually pissing on it but by the side of it. I don't think he was intentionally disrespecting it. In fact he might not even have noticed it. He also did the right thing and handed himself in.

One of the virtue signalling politicians, can't remember which one there are so many, said it was the worst thing he'd seen from these entire protests.
Worse than the policewoman being knocked off her horse or bikes being hurled at horses?

[NIK]

It was patently obvious that these "patriots" were just a bunch of pissed up footy hooligans who just wanted a ruck with whoever was about. Twats!

Unlike every single one of the BLM angels.   

[winkywanky]

To be honest I suspect there were more 'politically-motivated' at the protecting statue marches than at the BLM marches.

But the BLM marches certainly had plenty of activist types as well as the genuinely disgruntled, and there was as much violence if not more, if you consider how many coppers were injured.

[Chorley]

Unlike every single one of the BLM angels.   

Read my other post NIK 

[RedKettle]

Just to issue a minor correction the police woman fell off the horse and was not pushed. But yes the violence against the police was wrong by the thugs in both groups.

[winkywanky]

Just to issue a minor correction the police woman fell off the horse and was not pushed. But yes the violence against the police was wrong by the thugs in both groups.

That's not what I heard, and that was on the BBC News (I think). But fair enough, perhaps she fell off.

It's a moot point though of course, there was violence directed at the police, at both sets of demos.

[Yankee21]

It was patently obvious that these "patriots" were just a bunch of pissed up footy hooligans who just wanted a ruck with whoever was about. Twats!

The ones you may have seen in the press may have been, but there was a lot of serving and ex-mil up at the weekend demoing peacefully.

[NIK]

Totally agree. Obviously not excusing it and he deserves his punishment, but the initial reports - biased and inaccurate as ever- suggested he was urinating on it. The first thing I noticed when I saw it was that he wasn't actually pissing on it but by the side of it. I don't think he was intentionally disrespecting it. In fact he might not even have noticed it. He also did the right thing and handed himself in.

One of the virtue signalling politicians, can't remember which one there are so many, said it was the worst thing he'd seen from these entire protests.
Worse than the policewoman being knocked off her horse or bikes being hurled at horses?

Similarly, there was a you tube clip of a woke warrior, who wasn't that woke as he admitted he didn't know who a statue he was protesting about was. It was there and that was enough for him. 

Ignorant thickos on all sides. 

[winkywanky]

The ones you may have seen in the press may have been, but there was a lot of serving and ex-mil up at the weekend demoing peacefully.

Good to hear that 

They can't all have been twats.

There was indeed a strong point to be made, that you cannot simply erase or rewrite history and go around pulling down statues just because you want to.

And if it ends up with a statue of Churchill being defaced and him being labelled simply as a racist, then it's gone waaaay too far.

There needs to be a proper national debate. I suspect that now there shall be. Amen to that.

[mh]

That's not what I heard, and that was on the BBC News (I think). But fair enough, perhaps she fell off.

There's no dispute. The horse bolted, she hit the traffic light and was knocked off by it. The horse carried on running.

[NIK]

Good to hear that 

They can't all have been twats.

There was indeed a strong point to be made, that you cannot simply erase or rewrite history and go around pulling down statues just because you want to.

And if it ends up with a statue of Churchill being defaced and him being labelled simply as a racist, then it's gone waaaay too far.

There needs to be a proper national debate. I suspect that now there shall be. Amen to that.

There was an excellent youtube report on the 'far right' by an independent guy. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find it now. Initially they didn't want to speak to him, fearing the bias of the MSM, but when he convinced them he genuinely wanted to know why they were there they were happy to talk. One or two idiots as you'd expect, but most were rational ex servicemen. One said it wasn't so much about the Churchill statue as the cenotaph which was as sacred to them as a mosque, church or synagogue. I see where he was coming from. Just imagine the outcry if people desecrated places of worship. They also said it wasn't about race, and one made the distinction between BLM, who he said he had no problem with and Antifa, who (whatever people feel about it), he most certainly had.

I would also say that the reporting of the MSM was disgustingly biased, focusing not just on the violence, but on the 'beer drinking  .' One C4 reporter said, 'beers already in hand' and 'they only broke off to get another beer'. This is supposed to be objective reporting? 

[Private Parts]

Unlike every single one of the BLM angels.   

Antagonism and hatred are dreadful consequences of
The ignorance of society.
Open, unthought, statements reveal the myopia that has grown on both sides of the argument.
I despair for this country.
PP

[NIK]

I notice some of the msm were careful to qualify their reports with the phrase 'including elements of far right groups.'

They do love their phrase 'far right' though.

I also thought Bojo was wrong to use the phrase 'racist thuggery'. It was just thuggery directed at the police. But of course he has to show he is 'woke' and pander to expectations.

[Chorley]

The ones you may have seen in the press may have been, but there was a lot of serving and ex-mil up at the weekend demoing peacefully.

See my reply 

[Matrix]

The horse bolted because it didn't like having things thrown at it.

[Chorley]

The horse bolted because it didn't like having things thrown at it.

Yes, some scumbag threw a bike at it and scared. It ran towards a traffic light and the rider was very luck not to have broken her neck looking at the footage.
 
However it was needs a long prison sentence.

[mh]

The horse bolted because it didn't like having things thrown at it.

Yes, some scumbag threw a bike at it and scared. It ran towards a traffic light and the rider was very luck not to have broken her neck looking at the footage.
 
However it was needs a long prison sentence.

Yes, I've seen the bike story, also that fireworks were let off. The horses are trained for riot situations, but like humans they are far from perfect. It is a benefit having horses but also a risk both to rider and innocent bystanders (and there will always be innocent bystanders in all protests no matter how violent, that isn't a point about this protest).

[Matrix]

Yes, some scumbag threw a bike at it and scared. It ran towards a traffic light and the rider was very luck not to have broken her neck looking at the footage.
 
Whoever it was needs a long prison sentence.

Here's hoping that they've either caught, or will catch the prick.  Needs more than 2 weeks.  That easily could've resulted in death. 

[Alackofambition5]

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[Home Alone]

Here's hoping that they've either caught, or will catch the prick.  Needs more than 2 weeks.  That easily could've resulted in death.

While I also abhor what he was caught pissing against, as someone whose birth defect - spina bifida - certainly would manifest itself after 16 pints! , I think he deserves some credit if, as was reported the following day, he handed himself in.

If that's as I heard it on Saturday's news, it's probably why he got such a - comparatively - lenient sentence.

[winkywanky]

I wouldn't place too much credence on the handing himself in bit.

These days with social meeja, if you see a pic or CCTV footage of yourself in the press, even from behind, someone somewhere will dob you in and you know that. So he did the wise thing in the circumstances and handed himself in. Oh, and in court his barrister did mention that he'd 'previously had mental issues'. Perhaps he's clinically diagnosed as a prat? Sorry if I sound cynical.

Having said that, a drunken twat needing to pee in public to save wetting himself: it was the simple fact of him being at 'that' march that did for him. He clearly didn't pee on the statue, he tried to find a relatively quiet corner where he could hide his pecker as he peed.