The new normal

[radioman33]

Going into a mobile phone shop is going to look different with all the new social distancing rules looking at what EE shops are planning.I don’t see how places like bookmakers Paddy Power Coral etc can change the way people pop in to the shop place bets etc it’s not going to work just like other places is it?

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[RedKettle]

Anyone else thinking she looks tidy and well worth £120 an hour!  The mask would need to go to suck my cock but she can keep the boots on.

[Chorley]

Anyone else thinking she looks tidy and well worth £120 an hour!  The mask would need to go to suck my cock but she can keep the boots on.

You dirty fucker!  Mind you, I was just thinking the same 

[winkywanky]

Why is the woman standing on tiptoe?  Weird! 

[radioman33]

She looks Filipino hence her height,she’s worth chatting to instead of the usual pricks in them shops..

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[LLPunting]

These shields are completely superfluous window dressing and a waste of money, money the companies supposedly can ill afford and simply line the pockets of the tradesmen (opportunists) making them.    If customers and staff wear masks and otherwise maintain distance then the shields are irrelevant.  Staff would not be serving symptomatic, unprotected punters.

This society of snowflake, virtue signalling really does deserve to fail if it does not first insist on personal responsibility within society.  A populace constantly cowering behind sham safeguards is dangerously deluded.

[winkywanky]

These shields are completely superfluous window dressing and a waste of money, money the companies supposedly can ill afford and simply line the pockets of the tradesmen (opportunists) making them.    If customers and staff wear masks and otherwise maintain distance then the shields are irrelevant.  Staff would not be serving symptomatic, unprotected punters.

This society of snowflake, virtue signalling really does deserve to fail if it does not first insist on personal responsibility within society.  A populace constantly cowering behind sham safeguards is dangerously deluded.

Yes, many of the snowflakes seem to be the biggest rulebreakers and the least aware of cold realities.

[radioman33]

They are wearing the face shields in BOOTS stores but in Iceland supermarket they don’t even wear a mask on the checkout surely it’s more of a risk in there.?Dentists open next week they will look different

[LLPunting]

They are wearing the face shields in BOOTS stores but in Iceland supermarket they don’t even wear a mask on the checkout surely it’s more of a risk in there.?Dentists open next week they will look different

Know a few dentists and they have been debating the guidelines that were dropped on them without consult last week when told they'd be able to open again.  Unsurprisingly they are wondering where to get the quantity of PPE they are obliged to use and who's going to pay for it and how to run a business when every appointment is a mandated minimum 45 mins allowing 30mins for sanitising the surgery after each patient.  They also aren't allowed to conduct aerosol-producing surgery which kinda fucks most of the intervention surgery patients do their damndest to avoid until it's too late.  Which also means they aren't going to be conducting any particularly profitable work and there's been no mention as to how NHS work figures in which is paid at pittance scale based on volumes and outcomes that aren't going to be achievable under CoVID guidelines.
So all in all an unsurprising piece of shoddy work by current administration.

[radioman33]

They haven’t been given enough warning about opening up again so probably without the PPE won’t be able to.The old days of chilling in the waiting area reading a magazine looking at the tasty staff are over as be in and out quickly aswell unlike my usual 40 minutes running late.

[scutty brown]

These shields are completely superfluous window dressing and a waste of money, money the companies supposedly can ill afford and simply line the pockets of the tradesmen (opportunists) making them.    If customers and staff wear masks and otherwise maintain distance then the shields are irrelevant.  Staff would not be serving symptomatic, unprotected punters.

This society of snowflake, virtue signalling really does deserve to fail if it does not first insist on personal responsibility within society.  A populace constantly cowering behind sham safeguards is dangerously deluded.

The shields work
They block the spray of globules of saliva as you speak. Even if you can't see them, they are there

[LLPunting]

The shields work
They block the spray of globules of saliva as you speak. Even if you can't see them, they are there

Which would be prevented by the masks people should be wearing (as sensibly recommended for transport, shops, restrictive spaces, congregational areas, etc)...  hence no need for specific, pricey, ridiculous shields for when you're trying to buy a mobile phone.  As with so many things in this "advanced", "digital" society, another unnecessary solution for a problem already adequately addressed.

[maxxblue]

Which would be prevented by the masks people should be wearing (as sensibly recommended for transport, shops, restrictive spaces, congregational areas, etc)...  hence no need for specific, pricey, ridiculous shields for when you're trying to buy a mobile phone.  As with so many things in this "advanced", "digital" society, another unnecessary solution for a problem already adequately addressed.

Masks don't protect the eyes. Shields do. 

[Digby232]

Yet you can get a taxi and sit next to the driver for maybe a couple of hours and that’s ok. No government interference in our lives on that score.

[radioman33]

Seems like there all trying to rake it in producing these pricey face shields which are basically a piece of plastic visor

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[Doc Holliday]

Know a few dentists and they have been debating the guidelines that were dropped on them without consult last week when told they'd be able to open again.  Unsurprisingly they are wondering where to get the quantity of PPE they are obliged to use and who's going to pay for it and how to run a business when every appointment is a mandated minimum 45 mins allowing 30mins for sanitising the surgery after each patient.  They also aren't allowed to conduct aerosol-producing surgery which kinda fucks most of the intervention surgery patients do their damndest to avoid until it's too late.  Which also means they aren't going to be conducting any particularly profitable work and there's been no mention as to how NHS work figures in which is paid at pittance scale based on volumes and outcomes that aren't going to be achievable under CoVID guidelines.
So all in all an unsurprising piece of shoddy work by current administration.

This^

Aerosol Generating Procedures (AGP) are to be avoided unless absolutely necessary. In simple terms this renders the virus 'airborne'. This relates predominantly to the water cooling jet on a high speed dental turbine drill. So no routine dentistry until ... well fuck knows when?

Dental Surgeries are experienced with excellent cross infection control procedures utilising masks, gloves, eye protection and decontamination/sterilisation etc. However with Covid and AGP it requires level 3 PPE which is broadly the same as in ICU where AGPs are also occurring. Difference is the PPE will have to be changed for every patient rather than much longer periods of wear within ICU.

Total Nightmare and very time consuming and costly.

[Doc Holliday]

Which would be prevented by the masks people should be wearing (as sensibly recommended for transport, shops, restrictive spaces, congregational areas, etc)...  hence no need for specific, pricey, ridiculous shields for when you're trying to buy a mobile phone.  As with so many things in this "advanced", "digital" society, another unnecessary solution for a problem already adequately addressed.

In shops healthcare large screens/shields are relatively costly but they are effective, especially as the compliance factor is reduced. Easy to wipe down also. You have to bear in mind that supermarket staff on tills for very long periods of time with multiple exposures will be much more comfortable behind a screen.

[LLPunting]

Masks don't protect the eyes. Shields do. 

I'm talking about the large immobile screens not the personal face shields. 

[LLPunting]

In shops healthcare large screens/shields are relatively costly but they are effective, especially as the compliance factor is reduced. Easy to wipe down also. You have to bear in mind that supermarket staff on tills for very long periods of time with multiple exposures will be much more comfortable behind a screen.

As pictured and the ones in supermarkets are all about direct projection interception.  They are all otherwise open to atmospheric contamination.  Huge air volume stores may be able to rest easy because persisting suspended contaminants may be very diffuse and social distancing therefore inhibits transmission.  A small, busy store like a phone shop on a hot day with a promotional sale on will have a whole other level of contaminated environment which those stupid shields will do nothing to mitigate and if people believe they don't need to wear masks as a result then that escalates the contamination of the enclosed volume.

Giving your staff these would mean you're serious and effective on infection control and safeguarding: External Link/Members Only

[j4247]

When does it end? We don’t wear fecking masks every winter in case we catch the flu.

At some point we have to just bloody well get on with living our lives.

[Thephoenix]

When does it end? We don’t wear fecking masks every winter in case we catch the flu.

At some point we have to just bloody well get on with living our lives.

I suppose it depends on your age group.

As a high risk ol'codger I can see myself wearing a mask in certain environments for the foreseeable future, or until an effective vaccine is available.

[daviemac]

When does it end? We don’t wear fecking masks every winter in case we catch the flu.

At some point we have to just bloody well get on with living our lives.

It won't end, it will become one of the strains of seasonal flu like the one that caused the global pandemic of 1968/9. 

[j4247]

Exactly my point. Yet this social distancing crap still endures.

Cases have come right down, hospitals were not overwhelmed and have loads of capacity now, a vaccine may never happen, so what are we waiting for?

[radioman33]

There won’t be anyone going into shops without a job the unemployment rate is going to be like something never seen before.The high street is a depressing place before this virus.

[King Nuts]

Exactly my point. Yet this social distancing crap still endures.

Cases have come right down, hospitals were not overwhelmed and have loads of capacity now, a vaccine may never happen, so what are we waiting for?

Politicians, the media, unions, local councils and all the millions of lard-arses on various government payrolls are enjoying this. Their salaries are secure and they love the power they have over the rest of us.

Petty regulations about how we can use our leisure time, not bothering to enforce car parking regulations, or to maintain public conveniences, excuses posted on every damn website telling us that 'because of Covid' they can't answer the phones quickly (like they ever did before), park benches being taped off, stupid fucking signs everywhere. These people LOVE all this shit.

Do you think we're going to get our freedom back any time soon? They'll drag this out for as long as they can.

[kippydon]

if as we believe that lying man hancock and death figures were only 55, then  there maybe some optimisim , just look at New Zealand, apparently  Covid has gone, i know there population is lot smaller, but it all can give us hope that maybe one it will be the same here, but honestly this Tory shite of a govt , have realy fucked up big time

[Doc Holliday]

Giving your staff these would mean you're serious and effective on infection control and safeguarding: External Link/Members Only

Seriously good piece of kit in the East Asian preferred style for healthcare workers. Give your staff those and Matt Hancock would have you arrested. 

It is overkill though and shop staff just wouldn't be happy wearing them. Hospital staff aren't comfortable wearing them.

Each retail setting has to have an individual policy tailored to suit, but based on good general principles, which will include how enclosed the premises are. This can be complex but may be as simple as having a window open in very confined settings.

You are absolutely right though that the wearing of masks, by shoppers in particular, has a significant and cost effective role to play, but despite this having being advised in shops, the uptake appears to have been small? For it to work best ALL shoppers have to comply.

Not wearing one maybe has almost a 'macho' element to it? ... but also when a government says "we think its a good idea to wear a mask/facecovering but actually we don't think they work" then the lack of uptake is hardly surprising.

[j4247]

I can’t see an end to it, until everyone decides they’ve had enough and just want to get on with their lives accepting there is an element of risk to a greater or lesser extent in everything we do.

Maybe the BLM protests will do some good after all. If we don’t see a spike in a couple of weeks, social distancing will probably completely disintegrate. 

[JamesKW]

Maybe the BLM protests will do some good after all. If we don’t see a spike in a couple of weeks, social distancing will probably completely disintegrate. 

Yes,we also need to look at the USA as they have had riots in every City,if there is no spike we can return to normal.

[The_Don]

Why is the woman standing on tiptoe?  Weird! 

+1,  why they opted to use this picture is weird and the marketing department seems a little with this one.

Looking at the door, he must be 6 (or 7) foot + and she look under 5 foot even on tiptoe's