Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich | Netflix

[PoKing_KGI]

Has anyone seen this series on Netflix?

What I do not understand is how Ghislaine Maxwell has somehow disappeared and has not been charged with anything when she seems to have been a main player in all this.

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[NIK]

Just what were the ages of Epstein's victims? Because from what I can see they were 17 or so. Certainly in their teens, which even if they were underage, means he wasn't a fucking paedophile!
Will the bloody media ever use this word in its correct context? 
Paedophiles are men who are attracted to pre pubescent children, not to teenagers.   

[King Nuts]

Watched it. Very slow. Quite a stretch to make it four episodes. Could have been done in two.

Inevitably, quite a few shots of Jeff with Trump. Proves nothing much, other than two old rich guys living next door to each other in Florida, but the makers of the programme were obviously hoping for some mud to stick.

[King Nuts]

Just what were the ages of Epstein's victims?

According to the Netflix doc., the youngest was 14. His thing was obviously teen girls.

I has been looking forward to watching the series, but found it wanting in some ways. No real detail on how he got to be so hugely rich. And while his offences against some of those women were pretty vile, it seemed that with one or two of them we could have done with a bit more detail as to how they ended up in Florida.

What was really shocking though was the way he managed to get the Palm Beach Police Department sidelined, and did some form of deal with the FBI that led to him getting the softest of soft sentences. Again, not much detail about that.

[NIK]

He didn’t seem to be a bad looking bloke.
According to stereotypical ‘paedo myth’ they should all have staring eyes, one tooth and a hare lip. 

[PoKing_KGI]

Just what were the ages of Epstein's victims? Because from what I can see they were 17 or so. Certainly in their teens, which even if they were underage, means he wasn't a fucking paedophile!
Will the bloody media ever use this word in its correct context? 
Paedophiles are men who are attracted to pre pubescent children, not to teenagers.   

14 is the youngest to be featured in the pogramme but who really knows. Either way he was certainly a rapist.

What I found most interesting was the fact that he had secret cameras recording in his homes so he potentially recorded the likes of Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and the Crown Prince of Saudia Arabia raping teenagers. I wonder which one of those had him murdered?

[scutty brown]

Has anyone seen this series on Netflix?

What I do not understand is how Ghislaine Maxwell has somehow disappeared and has not been charged with anything when she seems to have been a main player in all this.

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Remember her father was a highly important Mossad operative, and he also had double-agent dabblings with the KGB and MI6.
The Israelis will protect her.
Robert Maxwell was known to provide sexual services to highly placed people, later blackmailing them - often for the Israelis - with recordings. Why do you think he was killed? Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were simply carrying on the same business - thats why Epstein was killed in prison. Probably by the Israelis to stop him talking. Ghislaine will be somewhere under protection - they owe her due to their debt to her father

[anonymouse72]

Leaked Court records show one case brought for crimes against a 13 year old. The case was dropped after threats were allegedly made against her family. It was later suggested that the family were paid off.

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[Squire Haggard]

Leaked Court records show one case brought for crimes against a 13 year old. The case was dropped after threats were allegedly made against her family. It was later suggested that the family were paid off.

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Likely to be Fake News IMO.

[willie loman]

Remember her father was a highly important Mossad operative, and he also had double-agent dabblings with the KGB and MI6.
The Israelis will protect her.
Robert Maxwell was known to provide sexual services to highly placed people, later blackmailing them - often for the Israelis - with recordings. Why do you think he was killed? Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were simply carrying on the same business - thats why Epstein was killed in prison. Probably by the Israelis to stop him talking. Ghislaine will be somewhere under protection - they owe her due to their debt to her father

Mossad would never have got involved with these clowns, she is not under their protection, if she is required to appear in court , you will find that she turns up.

[scutty brown]

Mossad would never have got involved with these clowns, she is not under their protection, if she is required to appear in court , you will find that she turns up.

She's been required for court for the last three years, and so far no-one has found her to be able to serve papers. Or arrest her.
If she reappears there are a host of charges waiting for her. The Israelis have her hidden away: they owed a lot to her father

[willie loman]

She's been required for court for the last three years, and so far no-one has found her to be able to serve papers. Or arrest her.
If she reappears there are a host of charges waiting for her. The Israelis have her hidden away: they owed a lot to her father

fair enough. I assumed she was living discretely in the states , though taking care not to go shopping etc.

[winkywanky]

fair enough. I assumed she was living discretely in the states , though taking care not to go shopping etc.

I'd assumed the same. Has an arrest warrant actually been issued for Maxwell, Scutty?

[scutty brown]

I'd assumed the same. Has an arrest warrant actually been issued for Maxwell, Scutty?

That wouldn't be public information - but you can bet your life that the FBI want to question her, and  that theres a secret grand jury indictment over her head, but again that info would never be released until she was picked up. There's a whole pile of court cases waiting to be served on her from women claiming she was complicit in their rape. Her wiki entry gives an idea
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and this is a list of the existing cases
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[winkywanky]

That wouldn't be public information - but you can bet your life that the FBI want to question her, and  that theres a secret grand jury indictment over her head, but again that info would never be released until she was picked up. There's a whole pile of court cases waiting to be served on her from women claiming she was complicit in their rape. Her wiki entry gives an idea
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and this is a list of the existing cases
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Are you sure it wouldn't be public information if an arrest warrant had been issued? I'm not so sure.

In the case of Prince Andrew for example, the solicitors acting for Giuffre want to talk to him. But legally he's not compelled to. And the FBI haven't issued an arrest warrant for him. So he sits tight. Perhaps it's the same for Maxwell?

[winkywanky]

Almost like a Catch-22...not enough evidence currently to arrest, but no more evidence available because the suspect refuses to talk unless they're legally compelled to?

[scutty brown]

And FWIW, Epstein had another procuress-in-chief: Nadia Marcinko, who was his pilot
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like Robert Maxwell, Marcinko has Czechoslovakian origins with a very confused backstory. One version has it that Epstein purchased her as a child from her parents.
Marcinko appears to have been involved in trafficking and  training the girls

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[scutty brown]

Almost like a Catch-22...not enough evidence currently to arrest, but no more evidence available because the suspect refuses to talk unless they're legally compelled to?

I think there's plenty of evidence - they just won't reveal it until she's caught.

[winkywanky]

...that really is Catch-22 then 

[Simmo87]

I dont think we will ever know the full truth about Jeffery Epstein,

I dont think he was a peodophile, I would say he was more a Ephebophile which is a sexual interest in teenagers. sex offender, abuser and rapist is what I would say is closer to the actual truth

I belive he was just a rich guy, who was spending millions shaging he way though the victoria's secret models, and aspiring victoria's secret models, fixer for the rich and powerful the shag victoria's secret models.

I also belive somewhere theres a few hard drives full of footage of the rich and powerfull balls deep in the above, I dont think that footage will ever see the light off day, (unless Mossad has a data breach)

As for Prince Andrew, I think he did have sex with Virginia Roberts with Jeffrey Epstein been the fixer, and I think he went back all those years later to stay with Jeffrey Epstein so he could get laid again.

As I said above I dont think none of us will know the full story, but I guessing in about 200 years some bored tech minded teenager will find some old hard drives in a landfill and recover pin hole camera footage of Bill Clinton been pissed on while knocking a wank out by a long forgotten underwear model!!

[willie loman]

Its a distasteful story, I view him as an erotomane,with a strong interest in voyeurism, I don't take seriously the mossad link of him or Maxwell. She has been named in lawsuits, which from what little I know of the law, is not the same as having an arrest warrant in her name.

[tobyk1]

Fantastic news this morning! US prosecutors make formal request for Prince Andrew to speak.  regarding his activities with Epstein.

If he doesn’t co-operate with the American investigation, he’ll need to testify in court in London.

Sick fucker he is. Poor Lizzy.

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[yandex]

I watched the series and wasn't really surprised by what it 'revealed'. He had lots of money in a world where money talks. Undoubtedly he had hugely damaging information on a whole bunch of people which he could use/used to his advantage but i'm always amazed at the complicity of those around people like this.

It's always the same - Epstein, Saville, Weinstein, Cosby - plenty of people knew but no-one did anything or were ignored/marginalised when they did. Things finally look like they might be changing for the better but I have my doubts whether we'll ever truly be in a world where the privileged elite are held to account.

[winkywanky]

I watched the series and wasn't really surprised by what it 'revealed'. He had lots of money in a world where money talks. Undoubtedly he had hugely damaging information on a whole bunch of people which he could use/used to his advantage but i'm always amazed at the complicity of those around people like this.

It's always the same - Epstein, Saville, Weinstein, Cosby - plenty of people knew but no-one did anything or were ignored/marginalised when they did. Things finally look like they might be changing for the better but I have my doubts whether we'll ever truly be in a world where the privileged elite are held to account.

I haven't seen this series but undoubtedly Epstein was a paedophile. I think some seem to be under the illusion that 'if it's got hair on it it ain't child abuse of a minor'. Of course it is.

As for Andrew's visit to Epstein in NY for a few days, after his conviction for procuring underage girls for sex (ie he visited a known sex offender), it seems clear to me that by that point Andrew fully realised his own vulnerability in the whole thing, and was desperate to smooth things over with Epstein so that he'd never spill the beans on him.

[Doc Holliday]

I haven't seen this series but undoubtedly Epstein was a paedophile. I think some seem to be under the illusion that 'if it's got hair on it it ain't child abuse of a minor'. Of course it is.

It is abuse but as others have said the strict definition of paedophile is prepubescent children.

[yandex]

I haven't seen this series but undoubtedly Epstein was a paedophile. I think some seem to be under the illusion that 'if it's got hair on it it ain't child abuse of a minor'. Of course it is.

As for Andrew's visit to Epstein in NY for a few days, after his conviction for procuring underage girls for sex (ie he visited a known sex offender), it seems clear to me that by that point Andrew fully realised his own vulnerability in the whole thing, and was desperate to smooth things over with Epstein so that he'd never spill the beans on him.

Totally agree.

As for Andrew, as the series shows, he was fully aware of what was going on. Lots of partying with topless, very young teenagers. He probably thought it was all normal for someone as entitled as him. Twat.

[winkywanky]

It is abuse but as others have said the strict definition of paedophile is prepubescent children.

I was unaware of that, and I stand corrected.

In which case I guess Serial Child Abuser would be the appropriate technical term.

It doesn't really make him sound any better as a human being but the distinction is important, I get that  .

[PoKing_KGI]

Fantastic news this morning! US prosecutors make formal request for Prince Andrew to speak.  regarding his activities with Epstein.

If he doesn’t co-operate with the American investigation, he’ll need to testify in court in London.

Sick fucker he is. Poor Lizzy.

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I would love to see him go to the US for an interview but of course it won't happen and I doubt he will even testify at all.

[WASA38]

The Grand old Duke of York
He had ten thousand men
He also had some under-aged girls
But he can't remember them.

[WASA38]

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[Knny]

Just what were the ages of Epstein's victims? Because from what I can see they were 17 or so. Certainly in their teens, which even if they were underage, means he wasn't a fucking paedophile!
Will the bloody media ever use this word in its correct context? 
Paedophiles are men who are attracted to pre pubescent children, not to teenagers.   

I don't know much about the cases, but epstein seems very tame compared to saville.  Unless I'm missing something.

[Bustydusty]

Watched one and a bit episodes but became a bit tiresome constantly putting pictures of trump on screen without having the guts so spell out what they were trying to imply so fucked it off
And I think trump is a buffoon before anybody asks

[King Nuts]

I see another of Clinton's cronies has suicided himself

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It never fucking ends.

[Jonestown]

Ms Maxwell arrested today by FBI

[winkywanky]

Ms Maxwell arrested today by FBI

Hurrah!

They found her then 

[PoKing_KGI]

Looking forward to hear what she has to say for herself.

[winkywanky]

Also looking forward to what she might say about Andrew when the FBI tightens the screws on her.

[willie loman]

So much for her being hidden by mossad, as a top level operative! Ive never been to a swingers club, but i have a hunch thats the standard of woman on offer.

[David1970]

If he could I bet a prince Andrews would be sweating now

[stevedave]

Looking forward to hear what she has to say for herself.

Unless she commits suicide in highly dubious circumstances, like Jeff...

[winkywanky]

Unless she commits suicide in highly dubious circumstances, like Jeff...

Well first her old man did it, then her bestest friend in the whole world did it.

It's almost like a pattern is developing or something.

[scutty brown]

Now they've got Maxwell, I wonder if Marcinko, the pilot who flew the girls around is next? Its possible they view Marcinko as another victim - she does seem to have been his personal sex slave

[winkywanky]

Plea bargain.

[scutty brown]

Plea bargain.

Maxwell will claim diplomatic immunity or some similar tosh

[winkywanky]

I meant the pilot.

[scutty brown]

I meant the pilot.

you're probably right

[PepeMAGA]

And FWIW, Epstein had another procuress-in-chief: Nadia Marcinko, who was his pilot
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like Robert Maxwell, Marcinko has Czechoslovakian origins with a very confused backstory. One version has it that Epstein purchased her as a child from her parents.
Marcinko appears to have been involved in trafficking and  training the girls

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you'd think he'd be banging her instead

[scutty brown]

you'd think he'd be banging her instead

he was
he purchased her from her parents aged 15-16, then educated her and got her trained as a pilot, all while using her as his personal sex slave. As she got older she seems to have progressed to "training" the new young girls that Maxwell procured
A real-life Pussy Galore

[winkywanky]

In that case, with her history of received child-abuse she'll almost certainly be offered a plea bargain, so long as she sings like a canary.

[Colston36]

Mossad would never have got involved with these clowns, she is not under their protection, if she is required to appear in court , you will find that she turns up.

Got it in one. I worked with someone who knew her father: an awful shit. There's no proof he was killed, by the way.