Gushing Reviews?

[AnthG]

The NE section has went totally quiet. So I figured I would start this as its been gnawing away at me.

But what do people of the region think when they see a gushing review?

As in do they think, 'what a pathetic loser', or 'he is clearly new/inexperienced to this', or 'he clearly had a great time', or, 'he's a sneaky manipulative bastard', or 'he's just an idiot'. or something else?

As in does seeing a gushing review make you draw conclusions about either the punter or the WG that you wouldn't have if it was just a straight methodical by the numbers review.

I will be honest, what caused this to stick with me, is certain trolling scumbags elsewhere stating my posting some gushing reviews makes me somewhat "manipulative". And I have been thinking, how, what to achieve? As I haven't achieved a single thing from any of those girls afterwards. Other than maybe them being reluctant to even accept a future booking from me in the future. So the gushing review is actually a hindrance. (therefore note for those reading, that is a very possible outcome, the girl not wanting to accept a booking from you again if you post one)

I have posted 41 reviews on this forum. And 6 of them have been gushing; Vicky and Tori Taylor in 2012 (the TT one was deleted alongside all other reviews for her after the 2012 Diamonds fiasco). Then Scarlett Sage and Daisy May duo, Keeva, Scarlett Sage again (solo this time) and Midori all in the last two years.

The reason why I posted them was that quite literally those were my 5 best ever punts. My entire punting history is usually seeing agency girls who most of the time, its a varying reaction level of "meh" afterwards.  Those 5 were what many have been putting in the top 5 list in the other topic. So they are good at what they do.

And I had literally just got home from them and I was like "I must tell people how great this was" frame of mind and just went all crazy in posting them due to the baby batter still being on my brain so to speak. If I had of left it a couple of days things may have been different in them but that's it.

When people read those or similar gushing reviews from other people. What did it make you think, other than pass the sick bag?

And would this be a good indication of everyone must wait at least two days to ever post a review so the craziness has left your system fully by that time. So you just give a methodical review every time with nothing else influencing what you say.

But anyway I am just really curious, how posting a gushing review is thought of as manipulative. Hence why I started this topic. And you'll get some sensible commonsense from people asking it here.

[johnny34]

I tend to prefer reviews that give all the basic info such as price, location, profile stats being accurate or not etc. Plus a decent description of the girl in terms of looks, attitude etc. Then an overview of the booking with regard to likes/dislikes & how the booking flowed etc.

Reviews that are overly gushing or more about the poster I tend to just skip through & ignore.

One of the best reviewers in the NE section is the Prof imho, lays out the facts with no added bullshit 

[The Outsider]

I'm temped to wait and see if this thread is likely to get deleted before putting in the effort of typing a reply.   

I'm not a fan of gushing reviews.  I prefer something factual and objective, dealing with key services received and the escort's attitude.  I'm also interested in practicalities like car parking and how discreet the premises.  It's not necessary to detail every conversation and movement.  I also really don't care about the "sexual prowess" of the punter.  Apart from anything else, a decent escort should make us all feel good. 

I also think that if you decide to do reviews, you need to be prepared to both good an bad.  Some punters seem remarkably lucky and only ever have good experiences, whereas at the other extreme, some only ever do red reviews.  I hate reading things like, "She was so good she deserved a review".  She doesn't deserve the review, we punters do if you're reading ours.   

Finally - and maybe controversially - I'm not sure it's your occasional fluffy review that's the problem.  You often seem to have different expectations of punting to many of us.  Some of your more controversial punting ideas aren't necessarily in the best interests of the escorts you're keen to meet.  Forums are a place to gain a greater perspective of this business from either side, but only if you have an open mind and willingness to listen. However, I'll also add that you are afforded very little goodwill or benefit of the doubt.   

[AnthG]

I'm temped to wait and see if this thread is likely to get deleted before putting in the effort of typing a reply.   

I think all the mods are distracted by the offtopic debate at the moment

[daviemac]

I think all the mods are distracted by the offtopic debate at the moment

Think again, I was aware of this thread at 09.50.   

[tynetunnel]

I think all the mods are distracted by the offtopic debate at the moment

Now I’m going to have to go and see what’s going on in off topic! 

[FLYING BLUE]

Write the review as you see fit, and in your own style. 

As long as it's a truthful & accurate reflection of the punt in question, then don't concern yourself with what other people may think or say.

Your punt, your review.

[polkiuj]

I try to stick to factual information.
Things like cost, services, communication, if there were any issues etc. I think these are the most important things people want to know.
I do try to add something about how I felt about the meet to give my opinion but i also try to be a little vague. I personally don't want to put things in a review that would make it identifiable by the WG if she had an account and read it.

[The Outsider]

Now I’m going to have to go and see what’s going on in off topic! 

It's easy to find.  Just head towards the 1970's then take a right turn.  If you don't believe in hell now, you soon will.   

[Weatherman21]

I write my reviews with all the information that a punter would need.  I don’t feel the need to detail everything that happens during the meet.  For me that’s between me and my paid companion.   Some reviews read like a page out of Readers Wives but that’s their style and I’m fine with that.
On the really fluffy reviews I look at the OP’s review history.  If it’s their first and the SP is new or has history.  Then yes I’m sceptical.

[Paris69]

Write the review as you see fit, and in your own style. 

As long as it's a truthful & accurate reflection of the punt in question, then don't concern yourself with what other people may think or say.

Your punt, your review.

Agree totally.. All i would add is that a review makes me laugh/or think 'yeah, right' when the reviewer says 'I definitely made her cum' etc etc etc.
Yeah, right!

[tynetunnel]

It's easy to find.  Just head towards the 1970's then take a right turn.  If you don't believe in hell now, you soon will.   

Things should improve when AnthG’s furlough comes to an end and he has to go back to work! 

[AnthG]

Things should improve when AnthG’s furlough comes to an end and he has to go back to work! 

Yes, or I get a punt in me. Whichever comes first.

[johnny34]

Yes, or I get a punt in me. Whichever comes first.

Punt in you, are you taking it up the arse now? 

[AnthG]

Punt in you, are you taking it up the arse now? 

Now you've said it, everyone will be thinking that now

[bushman]

Don't think I have ever thought a soppy reviewer to be loser. I sometimes feel like reading Mills and Boon type reviews or erotica for that matter.
It is however more the negative review that is the deciding factor in me booking a girl.

[The Outsider]

Things should improve when AnthG’s furlough comes to an end and he has to go back to work! 

Does this mean that all of us taxpayers are paying for 80% of his posts? 

[AnthG]

Does this mean that all of us taxpayers are paying for 80% of his posts? 

That's not just the half of it, if I do my £300 overnighter (not looking likely though I must say) but the forum members will be paying for 80% of that too.

Imagine the thought, paying for me to sit watching 80s movies with a girl. My God, you could just imagine every punter in the north east storming the hotel with this music playing in the background full of rage over the very thought of it

External Link/Members Only

And there will be me snuggled up with a hottie watching Ghostbusters or something at the time they all burst into the room....

[MrMatrix]

I write my reviews with all the information that a punter would need.  I don’t feel the need to detail everything that happens during the meet.  For me that’s between me and my paid companion.   Some reviews read like a page out of Readers Wives but that’s their style and I’m fine with that.
On the really fluffy reviews I look at the OP’s review history.  If it’s their first and the SP is new or has history.  Then yes I’m sceptical.

I would agree with this.
I always review my punts, whether I post them all is a different matter. Generally I do, possibly 70-80% will get posted.
Like W21 I try to include all the things I'd be interested in plus stuff I think others maybe interested in just for information.
If she said shes cum sometimes I mention this but not always. If she squirts I will mention it.
I had one girl say "I think I should be paying you", do you mention this or not. As its my review I can comment on this how I want. If someone critizises the positive or negative grading I will consider the comment and may reflect on a change. But the most important thing is I've done the review and the next reader now has more information than he did before and can make his own mind up.

My style may change from one being humourous to just basics, depends on how I feel really. The style does vary. But I dont do long winded reviews as I lose interest when reading others TBH.

Bottom line is we should all do reviews as much as possible as this forum is to my mind an essential tool for the punter

[AnthG]

Some punters seem remarkably lucky and only ever have good experiences, whereas at the other extreme, some only ever do red reviews.

Personally speaking. I think those are the most essential reviews - when those punters do a review of a girl that bucks the trend.

So if a punter does green reviews non stop. Claims its impossible for him to ever have a bad punt. Then suddenly does his first red one. You know review is worth reading and taking on board.

Same goes the opposite, punters who just have a negative review, after negative review. Suddenly puts a positive up. You just know that girl must be something good.

[tynetunnel]

I try to give an honest review and not be too fluffy, but when I have a very good time, it’s hard not to. I think I’ve given a mix of experiences, which mirrors the punts I’ve had.

[AnthG]

I try to give an honest review and not be too fluffy, but when I have a very good time, it’s hard not to.

Thats my point summed up in one line perfectly.

In my eyes, those girls who I posted a fluffy review about. Its like the equivalent of spending 8 years watching the Seven Police Academy movies over and over again. And then suddenly sticking on Training Day. You'd come away from that movie saying, holy shit that is the best movie I have ever seen. My God its epic. Christ, I am still having goosebumps off it.

That's what a punt with the top 5'er girl in the region is like. And thus, those divvy's saying "manipulative" are just divvys. As manipulative how. These girls are already respected and regarded as the best in the region.

[Weatherman21]

Are these your top 5 or a combined top five?  I see the same girls name keep appearing.  So in essence they must be doing something right!

[toon972]

Reviews should be limited to so many words, if someone does a long review I just skip through it and read the bits that interest me. Information like services, rough area where she is working, ease of parking, attitude. All of that should not take much space up. For a good example I would sat FB fits this criteria, there are some reviews I just don't read.

[datwabbit]

Reviews should be limited to so many words, if someone does a long review I just skip through it and read the bits that interest me. Information like services, rough area where she is working, ease of parking, attitude. All of that should not take much space up. For a good example I would sat FB fits this criteria, there are some reviews I just don't read.

+1

I just cannot keep up the concentration. I start, get blinded by the number of words and stop. I might read the comments which are shorter.

[northface]

I think all reviews are so important especially as the search function on here makes it so easy to locate them as and when you need them.
I generally dont always read a review from say the Newcastle area as I don't punt around there but sometimes at a later date the service providers move area or tour and then the review becomes important to me whether fluffy or not.

Also your own reviews can be important to yourself to aid your memory as yesterday for example Diana Guzman came to my attention on Adultwork as advertised in Darlington and i thought
thats a possible and when i put her number in the search function i had put a negative review up for her under a previous name she had ( Danniela Martin ) so that fully describes the usefulness of this site.

[scutty brown]

Whenever I see a gushing or fluffy review in the NE, my immediate first thought is "how is he getting paid off this time?".
Especially so if its one of the agency girls - though in some cases it looks more like "which pimp wrote this?"

[Tiger63]

I dont mind reading about Punters gushing about the particular SP that he has seen, thats fine... but cant be bothered with the reviews that the punter is gushing about himself.

[FLYING BLUE]

Reviews should be limited to so many words, if someone does a long review I just skip through it and read the bits that interest me. Information like services, rough area where she is working, ease of parking, attitude. All of that should not take much space up. For a good example I would sat FB fits this criteria, there are some reviews I just don't read.

Why thank you Mr Toon 
Do I win a prize? 

[AnthG]

Whenever I see a gushing or fluffy review in the NE, my immediate first thought is "how is he getting paid off this time?".
Especially so if its one of the agency girls - though in some cases it looks more like "which pimp wrote this?"

I think it more so depends on the girl, and the situation. Some girls, you just know will be getting gushing reviews. i.e Tori Taylor when she used to work.

If a girl has just joined an agency, and then all of a sudden gets a gushing review as her first review. That would suggest could be dodgy.  Same goes if any WG gets a particularly nasty negative. You are almost certain a gushing positive is coming.

However with that last one, more likely its just a case of, she has put a shed load of effort into and then immediately given a sob story to a punter in a subsequent booking and he has came along with the shield and armour to 'put things right' and goes to town in his review making her sound saintly. Or of course the other alternative is, the girl signed up as a punter and wrote it herself.

[daviemac]

Whenever I see a gushing or fluffy review in the NE, my immediate first thought is "how is he getting paid off this time?".
Especially so if its one of the agency girls - though in some cases it looks more like "which pimp wrote this?"

I tend to look at the poster's review history and how he contributes to the forum in general. I also look at comments from the local (reliable) punters, they would have far more knowledge than me of the scene in that particular area.

It's the same with any review though, believe what you want, take from it what information you find useful and ignore the rest.

[tynetunnel]

Whenever I see a gushing or fluffy review in the NE, my immediate first thought is "how is he getting paid off this time?".
Especially so if its one of the agency girls - though in some cases it looks more like "which pimp wrote this?"

You can draw your own conclusions of course. But maybe your view is clouded. All my reviews, including those which might be deemed fluffy ones, are written by me as a result of my experience. They have not been requested or sought by the girl, whether agency or not. Written of my own volition and as a true direct result of my experience. It’s your choice Scutty 

[The Outsider]

Whenever I see a gushing or fluffy review in the NE, my immediate first thought is "how is he getting paid off this time?".
Especially so if its one of the agency girls - though in some cases it looks more like "which pimp wrote this?"

What makes you think the NE is any more or less dodgy than the rest of the country? 

Who gets "paid off" and how?

[scutty brown]

What makes you think the NE is any more or less dodgy than the rest of the country? 

past history and what we know of the various agencies

Who gets "paid off" and how?

I'm sure you can work that out yourself.....

[AnthG]

past history and what we know of the various agencies

I'm sure you can work that out yourself.....

I don't believe there has been any history that I am aware of. The only thing people have previously taken issue with is the whole 'if you have a bad booking, you get a free one to make up for it'. Which non-northeasters have said is done to stop negative reviews for them coming in after bad punts.

What I will also say, nobody has posted even a just tangential explanation, or even suggestion, of this whole "manipulation" from the reviews thing. I am therefore going to take that as defacto 100% evidence that those statements are just made up trolling.

The only way I can think of that gushing reviews could be seen as manipulative is if you post one, and other punters may think, I want to see her as a consequence. Which is not manipulation. That is the whole point of having a review system.

[The Outsider]

past history and what we know of the various agencies

I'm sure you can work that out yourself.....

I must be doing something wrong.  I keep writing reviews on here, but nobody is sending over free hookers.   

I really don't see why an agency review is any more likely to be dodgy than one for an indie. The nefarious benefits of touting an indie would be just the same. Also, she'd be more likely to actually know who you are and have contact details to send over your loyalty bonus points.

[AnthG]

I really don't see why an agency review is any more likely to be dodgy than one for an indie.

I think, what many will be thinking to themselves (see how I got out of that one), is that in general thicker girls will work for agencies compared to those who work as independents and thus those girls will be inclined to think all they need to do is register up to the forums pretending to be a punter and post a glowing review talking about "and I licked her succulent love button in between her legs, and played with her huge firm bosoms", and nobody will realize it was written by a girl and not a man...

[AnthG]

I am just going to say, I am going to take the lack of any response on the whole "manipulative reviews" thing as proof positive that certain well-known people are lying shit-stirring trolls.

If there was any basis to the claims, someone would have been here to say why and what it is. I think everyone knows they would have been. There is not. And really there cannot be without them sounding stupid by even trying. As there is no way a gushing review for well known independent working girls is manipulative. All - at best - it can prove is I am a silly sod fluffy.

This is my proof topic that certain known people are clear trolls and should be ignored with their silly trash they come out with on everything.

[FLYING BLUE]

past history and what we know of the various agencies

I'm sure you can work that out yourself.....

Cop out

[scutty brown]

If thats aimed at me Anth you're way off the mark.
There have been enough examples and hints on this forum and others over the years to indicate that paid reviews have been a problem  in the NE, just as they were in South Wales. Its been obvious for years that the agency pimps have had influence over what has been posted.

[tynetunnel]

Cop out

Completely FB, Scutty has history there though 

[AnthG]

If thats aimed at me Anth you're way off the mark.

No, as usual two different discussions going on at the same time. My comment was related to very well known trolls. Who think they run the forums and start camp-gangs like something out of West Side Story to gang up on people for no reason with lies and trash.

You are nowhere like those people. You are a good worthwhile poster and human being. Unlike them

[daviemac]

I must be doing something wrong.  I keep writing reviews on here, but nobody is sending over free hookers.   

I really don't see why an agency review is any more likely to be dodgy than one for an indie. The nefarious benefits of touting an indie would be just the same. Also, she'd be more likely to actually know who you are and have contact details to send over your loyalty bonus points.

Take no notice of Scutty mate, shit stirring about NE agencies is a hobby of his, it's just a pity he has no clue about them.   

The decent ones report any dodgy members who are looking for favours in exchange for reviews, a thing, to my knowledge, no independent has ever done.

I know I would rather use a NE agency I have some faith in than some Asian brothel that might well use trafficked, coerced or forced escorts.

[AnthG]

There have been enough examples and hints on this forum and others over the years to indicate that paid reviews have been a problem  in the NE, just as they were in South Wales. Its been obvious for years that the agency pimps have had influence over what has been posted.

What I will say about this, was I was quite literally earlier on in the topic going to post a response to this from Outsider.

I also think that if you decide to do reviews, you need to be prepared to both good an bad.  Some punters seem remarkably lucky and only ever have good experiences, whereas at the other extreme, some only ever do red reviews.

About a poster who had been on the forums for years and who had very infamously negative reviews for both Tori Taylor and LilyD and pretty much every booking he had was a red/negative. And as a result his very few positives I really trusted as these girls must be something special in that case.

I did not make the post. As I couldn't believe it. I looked at his account yesterday and it seems he was banned in January of this year for asking girls for freebies for positive reviews.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10426

So Scutty is right, it does happen.

*Edit, just to say, I typed this out at the same time as DMs comment above. Just saying that as I don't want to be seen as challenging him straight afterwards. I was typing at the same time.

[daviemac]

I did not make the post. As I couldn't believe it. I looked at his account yesterday and it seems he was banned in January of this year for asking girls for freebies for positive reviews.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10426

So Scutty is right, it does happen.

*Edit, just to say, I typed this out at the same time as DMs comment above. Just saying that as I don't want to be seen as challenging him straight afterwards. I was typing at the same time.

No problem Anth, that is only one example, various things get reported by NE agencies, dodgy reviews and the like don't do them any favours. No doubt some of the less reputable ones may have a different view. It's up to the punter who they trust, I mean agencies and the punter doing the review.

[The Outsider]

Take no notice of Scutty mate, shit stirring about NE agencies is a hobby of his, it's just a pity he has no clue about them.   

The decent ones report any dodgy members who are looking for favours in exchange for reviews, a thing, to my knowledge, no independent has ever done.

I know I would rather use a NE agency I have some faith in than some Asian brothel that might well use trafficked, coerced or forced escorts.

I'm familiar with his objections.  Just thought we might make some progress with actual details this time.   

[Kev3773]

I'm familiar with his objections.  Just thought we might make some progress with actual details this time.   

You have more chance of getting a straightforward answer from a politician 

[AnthG]

I'm familiar with his objections.  Just thought we might make some progress with actual details this time.   

The agency that seemed to constantly want to post fake reviews that were deleted all the time by Admin was the Nottingham chest sitter agency.

So I fully appreciate what Scutty (and given he is not around now) what James999 used to say. But it doesn't seem to be an issue with the NE agencies, just ones that come up here showing us all how things work down south. Which is;  assaulting punters who say they will complain about poor service off them, forcing girls to work, fake profiles on the site like you cannot believe of girls who don't even exist, and posting non stop fake reviews of the girls who do exist on the forums, over and over again. That is seemingly how Nottingham does things.

[The Outsider]

What I will say about this, was I was quite literally earlier on in the topic going to post a response to this from Outsider.

About a poster who had been on the forums for years and who had very infamously negative reviews for both Tori Taylor and LilyD and pretty much every booking he had was a red/negative. And as a result his very few positives I really trusted as these girls must be something special in that case.

I did not make the post. As I couldn't believe it. I looked at his account yesterday and it seems he was banned in January of this year for asking girls for freebies for positive reviews.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10426

So Scutty is right, it does happen.

*Edit, just to say, I typed this out at the same time as DMs comment above. Just saying that as I don't want to be seen as challenging him straight afterwards. I was typing at the same time.

In this case, it happened, he was caught out banned.  That seems like a good result.  I'm not saying we never have a single dodgy review, but I think we're pretty good at self policing and spotting them. 

[scutty brown]

Take no notice of Scutty mate, shit stirring about NE agencies is a hobby of his, it's just a pity he has no clue about them.   

The decent ones report any dodgy members who are looking for favours in exchange for reviews, a thing, to my knowledge, no independent has ever done.

I know I would rather use a NE agency I have some faith in than some Asian brothel that might well use trafficked, coerced or forced escorts.

What better way to hide their own fake reviews than by drawing attention to others. Classic example of distraction. You think they're being helpful, in reality they are twisting the review system inside out