SeekingArrangement First Message template?

[AnthG]

Can I ask would someone who has good success rates with SeekingArrangement possibly please post a good template first message that would statistically give you better chances of getting a reply on there, please.

I am thinking of joining, but I have been reading a lot of posts on the forum of people who do join saying they send messages and don't get a reply back at all on most cases.

I am suspecting that is down to what was said in the first message given the girls are ultimately after money on there overall.

I am also guessing guys who've been on there a long while find what works and what doesn't in that first message to get a response or not. As they wouldn't stay on there if they just got ignored all the time.

So if so, could someone possibly post one please.

I am asking in off-topic as it means the first message template would be hidden so people can copy and paste it and not get rumbled straight away if they copy and paste it and send it.

Is it best to go straight in with an offer of money, direct methodical approach, or treat it like "hi how are you, I seen your profile you look nice" type of stuff. Is mostly what I am curious about.

[Steve2]

Best to set out what you want in your profile Ant

Do NOT mention PPM or anything punting like phrases

[mr.bluesky]

Don't beat about the bush. Just say " I'm not interested in any romance bollocks I just want a shag". ( truefull and straight to the point. She will appreciate your honesty.) There sorted for you. No need to thank me   

[Spencer Fobby]

The thing about seeking arrangement is that it caters to different tastes - from a female perspective as well as male.  Some people have good success rate because they are good communicators and know what kind of arrangement they want with what kind of girl. 
A template would open a door, but to whom? And what will you follow up with? How do you express your character and stay consistent?
When you browse the girls on seeking you may come across a profile heading that says "socialite looking for an expensive lifestyle".  These are generally girls who have watched a particular youtuber and followed her lead.  They are all empty airheads with no understanding of what men might want.  They think that a guy wants to take them out somewhere nice, buy them things and expect little in return. 
Some girls like a polite but direct approach. Others want something more gentle.  No girl likes to think they've been sent a copy and paste opening line.
Seeking takes time, effort, skill and charm among other things.  You'll learn over time. You'll make mistakes, you'll miss out on unicorns, but hopefully you'll have read enough on the open threads to be able to avoid being scammed or blackmailed.
Good luck.

[stampjones]

What Spencer said.
It’s a numbers game at the end of the day. Some wont reply. Some will and then drop off. A few will go for a while and drop off. Some will be scammers or sellers some you’ll drop off some yourself. Eventually you’ll meet a few.

When I first joined I messaged everyone with the crappest least thoughtful message you could think of - hi “Im stamp, how are you” kind of thing and I still got a decent number of replies. Things have changed a bit but it would probably still work. These days I’d say just talk to them normally, whatever that is for you. As long as you dont come across as a psychopath or a dickhead then you’ll be fine

[Strawberry]

What Spencer said.
It’s a numbers game at the end of the day. Some wont reply. Some will and then drop off. A few will go for a while and drop off. Some will be scammers or sellers some you’ll drop off some yourself. Eventually you’ll meet a few.

When I first joined I messaged everyone with the crappest least thoughtful message you could think of - hi “Im stamp, how are you” kind of thing and I still got a decent number of replies. Things have changed a bit but it would probably still work. These days I’d say just talk to them normally, whatever that is for you. As long as you dont come across as a psychopath or a dickhead then you’ll be fine

This would be my advise, and don't over do it - keep it simple.

[ik8133]

I would say basically be yourself, as people have said there are all types of girls on there and you just need to attract the ones that are able to provide what you are looking for.  Talk to them normally and also being honest helps as well, I tell them that I'm married, most appreciate the honesty and it doesn't seem to put many off.   

[AnthG]

Can I just double check.

If I said,

"Hi [Girls Username]

I have seen your profile and you look really great in your photo. Would you be up for meeting up sometime? If so how much would you want for this"

Would this go down ok or is that not how you would do it?

I have signed up, and been inundated with messages and me being added to favourites, one girl gave me access to here private photos. All out of the blue. Not a single one in my area. So I am thinking of taking the plunge and sending a message but I am a bit worried of saying totally the wrong thing.

[Spencer Fobby]

Read and respond to the messages according to what they say. Read their profiles. Try and find a way to connect with who they are - they already know you want to fuck them. They already know you will give them money.
Try stuff. Learn.
Make mistakes and keep learning. See what happens. Don’t over think it. It’ll take you 50 conversations before you get the hang of it.

[Sparta Prada]

Can I just double check.

If I said,

"Hi [Girls Username]

I have seen your profile and you look really great in your photo. Would you be up for meeting up sometime? If so how much would you want for this"

Would this go down ok or is that not how you would do it?

I wouldn’t send that message, all it does is encourage the girl to charge you for having a cup of coffee with them 

But you could send this as an initial message:

Hi [Girls Username]

I have seen your profile and you look really great in your photo. Would you be up for meeting up sometime?

If you get a positive reply, then ask the girl if she would like to continue the conversation via WhatsApp. If she agrees to this, ask for her number.

[AnthG]

It is freaky this whole SA thing. I clicked to look at a 19-year-old girl in Newcastle profile whose photo I really liked the look of but was thinking no way would I waste my time messaging her. Way Too fit for me. She'd probably be embarrassed to even be seen in the same vicinity as me.

Suddenly seconds later a message popped up asking me what my favourite movie was (I put on my profile my main passion is films).

I was like, what the f....

I probably freaked her out replying back saying its the Princess Bride though. I don't know. But still, this is kind of freaky this SA as you don't even get this sort of system on adultwork even of girls making the first contact.

[ik8133]

It is freaky this whole SA thing. I clicked to look at a 19-year-old girl in Newcastle profile whose photo I really liked the look of but was thinking no way would I waste my time messaging her. Way Too fit for me. She'd probably be embarrassed to even be seen in the same vicinity as me.

Suddenly seconds later a message popped up asking me what my favourite movie was (I put on my profile my main passion is films).

I was like, what the f....

I probably freaked her out replying back saying its the Princess Bride though. I don't know. But still, this is kind of freaky this SA as you don't even get this sort of system on adultwork even of girls making the first contact.

Well if you show you have sense of humour that goes down well.  It kind of depends on the girl as well, some a great to chat to an respond well to chatting, while others it can be like drawing teeth!

[Spencer Fobby]

Well if you show you have sense of humour that goes down well.  It kind of depends on the girl as well, some a great to chat to an respond well to chatting, while others it can be like drawing teeth!

Agreed.
What is really strange is that so many men seem to think all girls are the same 

[Cactus]

Anth, what do you hope to get out of it?

Have you ever tried internet dating, tinder, POF, match etc? If so, did you meet anyone in person?

How much experience do you have with conversation with civvy girls?

[AnthG]

Have you ever tried internet dating, tinder, POF, match etc? If so, did you meet anyone in person?

I was a member of POF and my experience, "read, deleted" every time I messaged someone. No matter what I said.

This girl who messaged me and asked me my favourite movie. And I replied back, did not get back to me, even though she has been online the entire time. So seemingly scared off her too.

[cunningman]

Is it best to go straight in with an offer of money, direct methodical approach, or treat it like "hi how are you, I seen your profile you look nice" type of stuff. Is mostly what I am curious about.

I am a noob but i am finding tha 'Hello! <theirname>!  i like your pictures!' (and, sometimes 'and the text') and "I'm <myname> and I live near <somewhere close-ish>".

Mostly they just send 'Hey!'.

Lay on charm and subtlety and ambiguity and get them onto kik or WA as soon as possible.

Today I have a single mother of 2 wishing to go straight to sex for 100 at hers - admittedly 45 minutes' drive away - and a bonkers curvy lass nearby wants 200 for car bj and 350 for an incall.  Guess who's going to get it?

[AnthG]

Lay on charm and subtlety and ambiguity and get them onto kik or WA as soon as possible.

I guess this is a good (although potentially depressing) test if I have any charm at all.

As if I cannot arrange a meet when I am potentially (in their eyes) willing to offer gawd knows what to achieve it. I must be pretty bad/annoying.

[Cactus]

I was a member of POF and my experience, "read, deleted" every time I messaged someone. No matter what I said.

This girl who messaged me and asked me my favourite movie. And I replied back, did not get back to me, even though she has been online the entire time. So seemingly scared off her too.

If I were you, I’d look into internet dating sites and try to get some more experience in speaking to civvy women. Try eharmony, when I was on that years ago, you fill in an extensive personality test first, loads of multiple choice questions. This creates an algorithm, so in theory you get matched with women who are looking for similar to you. You start off by asking a series of 5 simple questions, then identify 10 things that are important to you in a relationship, then ask 3 more in depth questions, then move onto conversation. So there’s communication of sorts, before having to engage properly.

Of course, that was a few years ago, so the format could have changed now.

I’ve never read up on SA at all, it’s not something that interests me, if I want to pay for a shag I’ll book an escort not jump through hoops for a semi pro punt.

We’ve both been on here for years and have interacted frequently, although not over the last few years, but I’ve always liked your forum persona. I often think your posts have an air of naivety and worry that a savvy semi pro could lead you a Merry dance.

Feel free to tell me to fuck off 

[AnthG]

Feel free to tell me to fuck off 

I wouldn't ever do that as you've always been one of the most helpful people on the forum for me.

In terms of SA I have paid for the membership today (£146) so would be insane to not at least try and take it up. I will also say, the hot girl above, the one I said princess bride to. Just this moment replied back. So I guess I am not that cludging. I was surprised she did as I genuinely thought that was it.

I have in the meantime messaged another girl. Who replied back saying she might want to meetup. So I then just replied back saying great well however you want to do this is fine and a few other things.

I am nervous like frick messaging them though. It honestly is like going back to my very first ever punt.

[ik8133]

I wouldn't ever do that as you've always been one of the most helpful people on the forum for me.

In terms of SA I have paid for the membership today (£146) so would be insane to not at least try and take it up. I will also say, the hot girl above, the one I said princess bride to. Just this moment replied back. So I guess I am not that cludging. I was surprised she did as I genuinely thought that was it.

I have in the meantime messaged another girl. Who replied back saying she might want to meetup. So I then just replied back saying great well however you want to do this is fine and a few other things.

I am nervous like frick messaging them though. It honestly is like going back to my very first ever punt.

Some girls don't like to be rushed regarding meeting up, they would like to know a bit more about who they are meeting first.  It's a bit of a minefield, but if you can keep them interested, that's great.  Good luck, you'll soon settle into it.

[AnthG]

Some girls don't like to be rushed regarding meeting up, they would like to know a bit more about who they are meeting first.  It's a bit of a minefield, but if you can keep them interested, that's great.  Good luck, you'll soon settle into it.

The girl above. I asked her about meeting up, she said yeah, then I said however you want to do it. And then she said, I am not up for sex and guys always seem to want that on here, but I am up for companionship.

I politely said, sorry I was hoping sex would be on the table at some point. And I guess that's it. Next girl I think.

Like everything, the hook they've got is the promise of sex somewhere down the line. The only hook I have got is money.

[AnthG]

Can I ask, given there are topics on this throughout the whole forum with hundreds of posts in each (sometimes thousands)

Are they any good posts of some guides/step by steps on how to handle the messages? By handle I mean. How to achieve a sex booking.

As I get the impression, if you play this badly you could end up handing over money to a girl when she has no intentions of ever giving you sex. And you keep handing it over like a gambler seeing the prize.

I also get the impression if you say in a message, I want to pay you for sex. You are getting reported to SA. At worst, and at best just totally ignored. Even if the girl would do it.

[sub_marine]

You have to be pretty blunt about telling them within the first couple of messages your looking for an actual meeting, or else you'll end up chatting nonsense to picture sellers stringing you along.  Theres probably only 20% of the female members will ever actually meet guys.  I found that girls who had been members for 6 months and were still active on the site were the best bet, by that point the girls still using the site have worked out that to make money they have to be doing meets.  Most of the girls on the site for less than a week are still under the illusion that they will get a penpal sugar daddy and get money for nothing. 

[Steve2]

Can I ask, given there are topics on this throughout the whole forum with hundreds of posts in each (sometimes thousands)

Are they any good posts of some guides/step by steps on how to handle the messages? By handle I mean. How to achieve a sex booking.

As I get the impression, if you play this badly you could end up handing over money to a girl when she has no intentions of ever giving you sex. And you keep handing it over like a gambler seeing the prize.

I also get the impression if you say in a message, I want to pay you for sex. You are getting reported to SA. At worst, and at best just totally ignored. Even if the girl would do it.

Anth, do NOT mention SEX dates

maybe put in your profile that you do NOT do online only or buy pics/videos

Get them onto Whatsapp ASAP and then if they do ask what you are looking for maybe say "something fun and intimate if we get along after meeting for a coffee/drink etc"

DO NOT pay for said coffee meet

use your common sense and don't treat it like AW or calling an agency

[ik8133]

Anth, do NOT mention SEX dates

maybe put in your profile that you do NOT do online only or buy pics/videos

Get them onto Whatsapp ASAP and then if they do ask what you are looking for maybe say "something fun and intimate if we get along after meeting for a coffee/drink etc"

DO NOT pay for said coffee meet

use your common sense and don't treat it like AW or calling an agency

....and if you are meeting for fun, remember never pay anything upfront and always at the end of a meeting.

[Hobbit]

SA does make me laugh at times. The whole point behind the website was to make it straightforward for people to communicate and say what they want and not to be like other dating websites where people have to pretend to be someone that they are not. This is one of the reasons I have never been a fan of dating websites because of all the pretending people do and not just being themselves.

I have had a few successes on SA and as most people have said it is very time consuming and you will get a lot of girls flaking on you, even sometimes after you have been communicating for several days. It can be very frustrating and deflating when you have paid £83 to join a website which is meant to be straightforward and honest.

My advice would be, the best approach is to just be straightforward and let them know what you want. Any talk of sex then they don't want to see you. So kind of mention that later on in a tactful way.

One thing which I am having difficulty getting my head around lately is that many girls say that they are happy to have a sexual relationship once they have gotten to know you. For me that is fine, but I don't like the idea of paying a girl ridiculous amounts of money to just drink wine and eat food with them. I had a gorgeous 19-year-old from Oxford many years ago who said the same thing and I took her out for a couple of dates and paid for her time, food and drinks. After a couple of dates I suggested that we move things to a more sexual nature and she said that she still wasn't ready. After that, I didn't see her again and learned a big lesson.

So what I tend to do now is that if they say that they want to date before having sex then I would take them on one date and let them know that from the next date I would expect sex if they want this to continue. Obviously I would say that in a more tactful way but still make my point very clear.

Has anyone else been in similar situations with SA girls wanting to get to know you before having sex and how do you deal with it?

[scutty brown]

Anth, it will help your success if you say you're a fan of Donald Trump and Tommy Robinson

[AnthG]

Anth, it will help your success if you say
you're a fan of Donald Trump and Tommy Robinson

I think that would be the thing you say if you want to get blocked.

[Kev40ish]

Has anyone else been in similar situations with SA girls wanting to get to know you before having sex and how do you deal with it?

The important thing is setting the ground rules and their expectations of what your looking for.
I have never been on dates, certainly not paid ones. I’m happy to meet in a hotel bar or coffee shop for a quick chat, but they are well aware that to get any money they will need to fuck me.

[martini2429]

Can I just double check.

If I said,

"Hi [Girls Username]

I have seen your profile and you look really great in your photo. Would you be up for meeting up sometime? If so how much would you want for this"

Would this go down ok or is that not how you would do it?

I have signed up, and been inundated with messages and me being added to favourites, one girl gave me access to here private photos. All out of the blue. Not a single one in my area. So I am thinking of taking the plunge and sending a message but I am a bit worried of saying totally the wrong thing.

Never, ever mention money while messaging on Seeking, you are only going to get yourself banned for soliciting for sex, what until you get them onto Whatsapp before you even mention £££££££

 

[AnthG]

but they are well aware that to get any money they will need to fuck me.

So how do you phrase that in your messages to them? Do you have a recently example of what you said for example?

[Kev40ish]

So how do you phrase that in your messages to them? Do you have a recently example of what you said for example?

Hi, you look stunning...

I am a 50 year old professional looking for a younger woman to meet regularly.
I have had one arrangement before for the last three years, supporting her through Uni, but she has now moved away.

I will be honest since my divorce it’s the intimacy that I miss from not being in a relationship, but not all the emotional baggage.

We would meet weekly, when I was in the Uk as I do work abroad quite a bit, so couldn’t always guarantee that. Sometimes in hotels and also at my house when we trusted each other.

I can be quite flexible and work around you availability when I am in the Uk.

Let’s get together and see how it goes as I’m keen to start a new arrangement

[Hobbit]

Never, ever mention money while messaging on Seeking, you are only going to get yourself banned for soliciting for sex, what until you get them onto Whatsapp before you even mention £££££££

 

Not entirely true. You can mention money, but I wouldn't advise mentioning money and sex simultaneously that could get you banned.

[DrGFreeman]

my experience is a lot of girls on the site have no idea why they signed up
they heard about it somewhere and they're curious (we all browse a lot of crap online)
its takes 30 secs, they upload a couple of photos and write 2 lines and bam they're 'on SA'
lots run a mile within a week, some are corruptible but only if you can build a rapport

I always try to mention something from their profile when emailing
you have better success if they're looked at your profile first
any mention of sex for money will get you banned (with no refund) so dont do it
keep your message short cos they dont read more then 2 lines
if you can establish some banter, switch to whatsapp and ask then whats sort of arrangement they were looking for
jump to this stage too quick is a mistake IMO, SA is much closing to dating than it is to AW

[Natwest]

One thing which I am having difficulty getting my head around lately is that many girls say that they are happy to have a sexual relationship once they have gotten to know you. For me that is fine, but I don't like the idea of paying a girl ridiculous amounts of money to just drink wine and eat food with them. I had a gorgeous 19-year-old from Oxford many years ago who said the same thing and I took her out for a couple of dates and paid for her time, food and drinks. After a couple of dates I suggested that we move things to a more sexual nature and she said that she still wasn't ready. After that, I didn't see her again and learned a big lesson.

So what I tend to do now is that if they say that they want to date before having sex then I would take them on one date and let them know that from the next date I would expect sex if they want this to continue. Obviously I would say that in a more tactful way but still make my point very clear.

Has anyone else been in similar situations with SA girls wanting to get to know you before having sex and how do you deal with it?

The one's that talk about a few dates "to get to know you" I think are similar to the ones that say they want to sell pics and videos until they feel comfortable about meeting. I avoid all of these because I honestly believe the girls have no intention of moving to actual sex. There is also another category I avoid and that is one's who are about 100 to 150 miles away and willingly offer to drive to me. Usually this all seems to be going smoothly and then comes the request for petrol money.

I did have a girl who travelled to me from quite a long distance and I agreed to pay for her fare when she arrived plus arrangement fee. By the end of the 24 hours I was glad she was leaving and we didn't actually have sex though she slept in my bed. To her credit, she didn't ask for any money over and above the fare. So I could have been stung and even with my experience, made a mistake. I didn't actually fancy her and would not have seen her again anyway.

As people have said SA is really time consuming but there are gems. I am regularly seeing a girl who stays overnight, is dirty as hell and 50 years younger than me. To get there though, I had hundreds of conversations and many one off meetings for sex. Of course just like AW, to get them into bed does not guarantee you will enjoy their company or get good sex.

There really is no magic answer. I have been on SA for three or four years and in that time I have met maybe half a dozen girls that were absolute gems and had some of the best sex of my life. I bet I have had 20 or 30 one offs though that I was so glad the time came when they left. I've never had a situation where I really liked the girl and she didn't want to see me again. It's always been the other way round.

[Hobbit]

The important thing is setting the ground rules and their expectations of what your looking for.
I have never been on dates, certainly not paid ones. I’m happy to meet in a hotel bar or coffee shop for a quick chat, but they are well aware that to get any money they will need to fuck me.

Some of them are happy to have a drink beforehand but it's just that most of them want to get to know you before having sex. I understand that they want to trust you more before getting physical, but in my experience, you can usually know someone within the first 10 minutes or less when you first meet. So several dates are not required.

[Natwest]

Some of them are happy to have a drink beforehand but it's just that most of them want to get to know you before having sex. I understand that they want to trust you more before getting physical, but in my experience, you can usually know someone within the first 10 minutes or less when you first meet. So several dates are not required.

I can't actually think of an SA meet I have had that hasn't started with sex. There is a good and bad side to that though, the good side is obvious but the bad side is that you end up having sex with someone you really would not want to have sex with. So sometimes I have wished I had gone for an unpaid coffee meet first. One of the issues though is that unless you live in a big city, the pool is small so travelling means they have already put in an effort to get to you. So you feel bloody guilty if you don't go through with the deed.

[sparkus]

Anth, what do you hope to get out of it?

Have you ever tried internet dating, tinder, POF, match etc? If so, did you meet anyone in person?

How much experience do you have with conversation with civvy girls?

I'd echo this.  SA is for serious players but you're perhaps reading too much into it.  If the price is right then the girl on SA won't give a shit about your opening gambit but in most cases they're used to men who get to the point and can splash the cash.

There are legions of women on Tinder who will meet for paid sex (and dining), regardless of your appearance or opening message to her, it's as business-like as punting and from what I've heard not as expensive as SA.

[Hobbit]

I'd echo this.  SA is for serious players but you're perhaps reading too much into it.  If the price is right then the girl on SA won't give a shit about your opening gambit but in most cases they're used to men who get to the point and can splash the cash.

There are legions of women on Tinder who will meet for paid sex (and dining), regardless of your appearance or opening message to her, it's as business-like as punting and from what I've heard not as expensive as SA.

How do you approach them on Tinder?

[sparkus]

How do you approach them on Tinder?

I've not but I've been approached.

Someone I know of, early 50s, bald and hefty but makes decent money has something on his profile saying he'll be a sugar daddy and that has them swarming in.

[Hobbit]

I've not but I've been approached.

Someone I know of, early 50s, bald and hefty but makes decent money has something on his profile saying he'll be a sugar daddy and that has them swarming in.

Interesting approach but I would definitely not put a picture up of me on Tinder saying something like that. I'm sure somebody will end up recognising me as Tinder is used by nearly everyone.

[AnthG]

The level of replies you receive on this place is unreal. A girl on there said she likes watching movies by a warm fire. So I naturally as my opening gambit sent a message asking her what type of films she likes to see. This was the reply back.

"hello and thankyou and depends aha i like old movies wbu? x"

How you supposed to work with that? And how do they think that is attractive to make people pay them a load of money for their time?

[martini2429]

The level of replies you receive on this place is unreal. A girl on there said she likes watching movies by a warm fire. So I naturally as my opening gambit sent a message asking her what type of films she likes to see. This was the reply back.

"hello and thankyou and depends aha i like old movies wbu? x"

How you supposed to work with that? And how do they think that is attractive to make people pay them a load of money for their time?

Bluff it out, look up some old movies on Wiki and start giving her a load of shit, but for god's sake don't tell her about your old porn collection until you actually get her knickers off 

 

[AnthG]

Bluff it out, look up some old movies on Wiki and start giving her a load of shit, but for god's sake don't tell her about your old porn collection until you actually get her knickers off 

 

She later said wat u looking 4. So I just replied back full on with

"Hi [Girl], I was hoping we could get a meal together at a hotel bar, then maybe watch a movie together in the hotel and maybe get intimate afterwards."

I figured if I crash and burn it doesn't matter given the above. But still nervous like hell when clicking submit. I doubt she will reply. But jackpot if she does. This SA thing can give people a Sean Connery easily.

[sparkus]

She later said wat u looking 4. So I just replied back full on with

"Hi [Girl], I was hoping we could get a meal together at a hotel bar, then maybe watch a movie together in the hotel and maybe get intimate afterwards."

I figured if I crash and burn it doesn't matter given the above. But still nervous like hell when clicking submit. I doubt she will reply. But jackpot if she does. This SA thing can give people a Sean Connery easily.

I'd avoid peppering it with so many 'maybes' next time mate? 'Hoping' as well adds to the uncertainty.

If was me I would have said along those lines:

"Hi [Girl], perhaps we could get a meal together at a hotel bar, then watch a film in the hotel and get intimate afterwards.  Or just skip the film, either way is good."

I'm not massively familiar with hotel bars in your part of the world but I'm guessing SA material might want posher nosh before they nosh?

[AnthG]

I'm not massively familiar with hotel bars in your part of the world but I'm guessing SA material might want posher nosh before they nosh?

Thanks for the tips on how to amend what I say.

With regards to the meal. We are in the hidden section, and this is not really major revealing anyway. But every time I have done social escorting bookings I have taken the girl to the Villiage Hotel in North Shields. Its rated as a 4 star hotel on the Hotel review sites and the meal always cost me £60 guaranteed for us both.

Its a nice hotel. There isn't much better places to eat in Newcastle I don't think. But if anyone knows better I am all open?

[sparkus]

Thanks for the tips on how to amend what I say.

With regards to the meal. We are in the hidden section, and this is not really major revealing anyway. But every time I have done social escorting bookings I have taken the girl to the Villiage Hotel in North Shields. Its rated as a 4 star hotel on the Hotel review sites and the meal always cost me £60 guaranteed for us both.

Its a nice hotel. There isn't much better places to eat in Newcastle I don't think. But if anyone knows better I am all open?

OK, sounds decent enough, I stand corrected

I've only been to Newcastle with work (as with most cities) but its restaurant offer is pretty meh.  There's one (just checked) called the Blackfriars which is quite quaint as it's in a former abbey next to Chinatown, was about seven of us in that night but it looked very candlelit for couples and perhaps impressive? Was only a short walk from the hotel as well.

My last date with a young girl involved downing of shots and her pulling pranks on people, so while the sugar daddy routine is no doubt reliable be prepared for spontaneity.

[Cactus]

So what’s the benefit of SA over:
1. Adultwork/agency for paying for sex?
2. Tinder/bumble/POF for a free shag?
3. Match/eHarmony (or the sites listed in 2) for a relationship?

The whole thing just sounds like an absolute shitshow to me. At £100+ to join too (for how long?)

[Cactus]

Thanks for the tips on how to amend what I say.

With regards to the meal. We are in the hidden section, and this is not really major revealing anyway. But every time I have done social escorting bookings I have taken the girl to the Villiage Hotel in North Shields. Its rated as a 4 star hotel on the Hotel review sites and the meal always cost me £60 guaranteed for us both.

Its a nice hotel. There isn't much better places to eat in Newcastle I don't think. But if anyone knows better I am all open?

You’ll be sitting in the car park of the hotel for the foreseeable with a couple of fish suppers & a couple of newkie broon ales, then back to yours if it goes well!

You never did say earlier what it was you hoped to achieve out of you SA experience?

[AnthG]

So what’s the benefit of SA over:
1. Adultwork/agency for paying for sex?
2. Tinder/bumble/POF for a free shag?
3. Match/eHarmony (or the sites listed in 2) for a relationship?

The whole thing just sounds like an absolute shitshow to me. At £100+ to join too (for how long?)

I have paid £145 for 3 months membership (and that was with a 3rd off discount to celebrate the end of the lockdown so it should have been £190 for 3months).

1. I am worried about catching Covid. This way I see non-escorts who are not seeing every man under the sun. Plus when I started topics about social bookings seeking movie watching, I got ribbed like crazy, every time I did it. And was advised repeatedly by people that this is what SA is for. Escorts just want sex. They don't want all the social stuff. The people on SA want social stuff, but maybe not the sex.

2. I was a member of POF. but I have terrible social skills (I know what a shock) but it is true. And every message it was read/deleted so I gave up.

3. Eharmony I remember in 2011 I spent a good 45mins filling out the questionnaire and then at the end it said, thanks but no thanks. They may as well have said, sorry we don't want social leppers on our books.

I may try Tinder after it was mentioned here as a sugar daddy type of thing.

But before someone says it, for me, i probably should find a way to try and work on my social interaction skills. But that's the ultimate question, how....

You never did say earlier what it was you hoped to achieve out of you SA experience?

Effectively Social escorting bookings. Which is chatting during a meal I pay for, then/and/or maybe watching a movie afterwards, and then maybe sex. That's my ideal punt.

I suspect on SA the girls would be all up for the first two. Its the last one that causes the issues. But this is what SA is (under the table) designed for. Its just a whole lot harder than Adultwork.