Has anyone seen a girl during this current climate?

[Wankingdead]

What do you mean by when it is all over? Do you think the virus will just vanish one day? No, the current lockdown will be relaxed and all the massage shops whore houses will re-open and you will have almost the same chance of being infected, stop kidding yourself. This virus is going to carry on until a vaccine is found in 12/18 months.

[king tarzan]

Be loads of new hookers when this is over.

In there early 20's, fresh tight bodies, lovely smooth skin.. yum yum 😋😋😋😋😋👅👅👅

[Rick2468]

What do you mean by when it is all over? Do you think the virus will just vanish one day? No, the current lockdown will be relaxed and all the massage shops whore houses will re-open and you will have almost the same chance of being infected, stop kidding yourself. This virus is going to carry on until a vaccine is found in 12/18 months.

I am being optimistic. Sorry if you disagree! There is a chance that the virus has already torn through the population and once a reliable enough test is widely available they can sample the population. I have quite a few friends in London who think they have had it (although could just be after a bit of attention!). If enough people have been affected the r-parameter will reduce below 1 and it should then die off.

Previous coronaviruses have also shown that they get less lethal as they pass from host to host. Although governments definitely do not seem to be hanging their hopes on this being the case.

[doctor1975]

Hey, why all the hate? I was simply asking a question. I wanted to see if anyone had took a chance. Jeez

[James]

I am being optimistic. Sorry if you disagree! There is a chance that the virus has already torn through the population and once a reliable enough test is widely available they can sample the population. I have quite a few friends in London who think they have had it (although could just be after a bit of attention!). If enough people have been affected the r-parameter will reduce below 1 and it should then die off.

Previous coronaviruses have also shown that they get less lethal as they pass from host to host. Although governments definitely do not seem to be hanging their hopes on this being the case.

I think the majority of people have had it, our testing has been a sham in this country so no one knows. WG will prob already of had it and may be immune. People go on about not punting till a vaccine is there. what about dating, meeting up with friends. Life goes on you can get this virus anywhere. Going back to work can give it you, Seeing you mates can give it. so after the current lock down is over the risk is there. Risk is not just from punting it is in everyday life. Also got to account for close people will not tell if they had it. people will hide their symtoms etc.

[LLPunting]

Hey, why all the hate? I was simply asking a question. I wanted to see if anyone had took a chance. Jeez

Given the amount of commentary and condemnation already expressed on multiple threads since lockdown began, this "simple question" was not innocent by any means, you are trolling for a reaction.

[Coverdad]

I am being optimistic. Sorry if you disagree! There is a chance that the virus has already torn through the population and once a reliable enough test is widely available they can sample the population. I have quite a few friends in London who think they have had it (although could just be after a bit of attention!). If enough people have been affected the r-parameter will reduce below 1 and it should then die off.

That would be the best case scenario, but for a big part of the population to have been infected and not know it, the death rate would have to be way lower than we think. But there is data from populations where everyone got tested (like cruise ships) which puts a lower limit on the death rate. Let’s say only 1 in 1000 people dies from it (which is 10 times lower than current estimates).

There’s been 12,000 UK deaths (officially, maybe that’s undercounted but let’s say it’s ballpark). So that means 12 million total cases. But we’re a country of 70 million people so that’s only 20% of the population.

You can play around with assumptions and estimates, also of course some areas are more affected so might have a higher local rate, but it seems very unlikely that >50% of people have had it and we just don’t realise.

Of course this is all just a “guesstimate” and population sampling for antibodies is the way to find out for sure.

It’s also not even clear how much having it once will protect you from reinfection. Not all diseases make you immune for life after one infection.... so even if 80% of people have had it, it might turn out you can get it again 6 months later...

[Henry767]

B'dum Tsch!

Brilliant! ( And yes, I did it)

[KelvinB1980]

First off:

-No GUM/ STI clinics are open should you need to use them, not sure if they'll be open for SP's (unlikely). GPs might be open to see u but that is the last place you'd wanna be in the current climate tbh.

-Chance of experiencing a new element of regret immediately afterwards, especially if you live with others and have to go home to them.

-Could your consciousness handle (in the long term) inadvertently infecting others which tbh is a complete lottery as to how they get over it.

Secondly:

-Anyone with a passing interest in molecular biology and the physiological mechanism of what the virus is capable of - frightening indeed. Plenty of literature and peer reviewed data out already about what it does in the cellular level. All the more reason to respect the current guidance. For the unlucky ones, it basically reprograms the body to nuke itself with it's own immune system. Makes Sepsis look like a walk in the park. And there's no cure.

[workinallweek]

 has anyone seen a girl recently?    yes
 have i ?                                     no
 would i like to ?                           yes
 will i be stupid enough to ?            no

would anyone admit seeing one on here  i wouldnt expect it .....

[tobyk1]

has anyone seen a girl recently?    yes
 have i ?                                     no
 would i like to ?                           yes
 will i be stupid enough to ?            no

would anyone admit seeing one on here  i wouldnt expect it .....

Spot on

[unus669]

has anyone seen a girl recently?    yes
 have i ?                                     no
 would i like to ?                           yes
 will i be stupid enough to ?            no

would anyone admit seeing one on here  i wouldnt expect it .....

The End

[pbrown355]

Just posted a similar comment on another thread but we need to remember that when it becomes ok to socially interact again, Covid will still be around. The government plan is that we all get it just not all at once. It will be with us until there is a vaccine or herd immunity is achieved.

[cotton]

Just posted a similar comment on another thread but we need to remember that when it becomes ok to socially interact again, Covid will still be around. The government plan is that we all get it just not all at once. It will be with us until there is a vaccine or herd immunity is achieved.

And what exactly does herd immunity mean , if its along the same lines as the regular flu then with herd immunity the bulk of the population are going to be resistant to it but its going to prey on the oldest and weakest , so basically like whats happening anyway. Seems to me that herd immunity is basically when its killed off the people who it can kill off and the rest of the population are ok , at least until they reach the tipping point where they become sufficiently old and infirm that the virus can cause mischief.

[unus669]

And what exactly does herd immunity mean , if its along the same lines as the regular flu then with herd immunity the bulk of the population are going to be resistant to it but its going to prey on the oldest and weakest , so basically like whats happening anyway. Seems to me that herd immunity is basically when its killed off the people who it can kill off and the rest of the population are ok , at least until they reach the tipping point where they become sufficiently old and infirm that the virus can cause mischief.

‘Herd Immunity can be achieved in 2 ways. Let everyone get infected and build immunity that way or shield people from infection till you have a vaccine, then most be are vaccinated.

[Supersub1234]

The theory is as a virus spreads, it gets weaker. So you keep the vulnerable and old under lockdown but allow the virus to spread, and weaken, among those in the population who should be able to deal with the virus. That’s the recommendation of Oxford University. The govt are following Imperial College London, but some academics believe that because the virus wasn’t allowed to spread and weaken, it’s effectively just been put in the cupboard and will reappear once the restrictions have been lifted. In short,  you have to let a virus run it’s course.

[LLPunting]

The theory is as a virus spreads, it gets weaker. So you keep the vulnerable and old under lockdown but allow the virus to spread, and weaken, among those in the population who should be able to deal with the virus. That’s the recommendation of Oxford University. The govt are following Imperial College London, but some academics believe that because the virus wasn’t allowed to spread and weaken, it’s effectively just been put in the cupboard and will reappear once the restrictions have been lifted. In short,  you have to let a virus run it’s course.

A virus doesn't get tired or less dangerous of itself, it's capacity for harm is diminished based on the external factors of increased population resistance and mitigative options.  A mutation may cause it to become less OR MORE dangerous but then the next mutation may switch it the other way BUT with the intervention of human ingenuity with mitigative measures the virus "genus" will in the long term become more potent whilst it continues to evolve and exist to circumvent our efforts.  I'm presuming this based on the way flu has evolved and the fact we continue to battle it every year in a game of catch-up.

[Henry767]

I think the idea is that, as the virus mutates, there are several versions out there. Parasites that kill their hosts too quickly don't prosper, so the ones that cause milder symptoms will be selected for over those that put their hosts straight into isolation, hospital or the morgue. The hope then is that the milder one co gets immunity, as a vaccine would.

[Henry767]

Confers.

[Supersub1234]

On average a virus lasts 3 to 4 months

[Supersub1234]

Either way, I don’t think it will be safe until the new year.

[LLPunting]

I think the idea is that, as the virus mutates, there are several versions out there. Parasites that kill their hosts too quickly don't prosper, so the ones that cause milder symptoms will be selected for over those that put their hosts straight into isolation, hospital or the morgue. The hope then is that the milder one co gets immunity, as a vaccine would.

Sorry, good point, it can't become too lethal as that strain would burn itself out, but anything less just becomes a matter of varying priority and cost for us developing treatments.  Good ol' Capitalism enabling ambivalence. 

[stampjones]

On average a virus lasts 3 to 4 months

The term “average virus” has no real meaning as every one has different characteristics. I guess the main characteristic we care about here is ease of transmission which is pretty high in this case so if you want to guess a time you should restrict the sample space to those with similar transmission rates.
Probably

[LLPunting]

The term “average virus” has no real meaning as every one has different characteristics. I guess the main characteristic we care about here is ease of transmission which is pretty high in this case so if you want to guess a time you should restrict the sample space to those with similar transmission rates.
Probably

Given we already all punt regardless of Flu and it's still a killer to the tune of hundreds of thousands globally per annum, punting will return to normal as soon as treatments and partially effective vaccines emerge.

Perhaps a 12-24 month break from punting would be a good thing.  Enjoy your savings in another debauched way or put together an escape package and emigrate somewhere with more willing civvies.

[stampjones]

Given we already all punt regardless of Flu and it's still a killer to the tune of hundreds of thousands globally per annum, punting will return to normal as soon as treatments and partially effective vaccines emerge.

Perhaps a 12-24 month break from punting would be a good thing.  Enjoy your savings in another debauched way or put together an escape package and emigrate somewhere with more willing civvies.

Right now nobody knows how long it will take. The key factor is health services being able to cope whether that means vaccines or herd immunity or whatever.
I was dealing with it pretty well on exactly the terms you mention til this afternoon when I had a major “really need a punt” moment. Some self-administered medication courtesy of the old faithful right hand and back to normal now thankfully

[Colston36]

You're right, everyone here would probably be derided and ridiculed by those on the outside, and we live with that, perhaps even relish it  .

But the bottom line here (and I'm not talking about fucking a juicy Tranny up the bum  ) is that the current pandemic pretty well overrules and overrides everything, it really is that big  .

And for the vast majority here (I'm making no judgement) our hobby is inherently selfish. Coronavirus is one time where EVERYONE, everywhere needs to try and stop being selfish for a while (quite a while unfortunately) to stop others dying, not just worrying about their own health or whether they consider OWO/bareback might or might not be within their own risk/benefit sphere.

I think you're right about Sweden, and the Danes too I think, but they are very different from us as people. I actually think they're a bit more grown-up and socially responsible than we are, you only have to have a look at how shit their music is to realise that (apart from Abba, and we're back to that bottom line again  ).

Two girls I know have started working again because they simply have no money. I cannot really blame them. Two others who are very ingenious, charge top dollar and have a loyal clientele are doing ingenious stuff wth videos and so on for selected cients they know well.

[markfin]

Having too much time on my hands and out of curiosity I looked under the massage section on Gumtree to see if anyone's working around Wimbledon/Kingston.

External Link/Members Only

I gave the number a call and it turns out to be Zhangri la in Wimbledon, still open offering B2B for £100. Their own website confirms this. 

[Kev40ish]

Having too much time on my hands and out of curiosity I looked under the massage section on Gumtree to see if anyone's working around Wimbledon/Kingston.

External Link/Members Only

I gave the number a call and it turns out to be Zhangri la in Wimbledon, still open offering B2B for £100. Their own website confirms this.

I suppose it’s difficult for the girls if they can’t get benefits. It’s unlikely the firm will be able to furlough them.
What would you do if you had no money and this was the only way you could get by.

It’s sad that they are stuck in this situation

[Johncy]

Just asking - what will change after lockdown. There still will be more than 200k with the virus outside. End of May there will be even more, so what. Kids will go to school in June. What is the difference if you punt now or after they say that lockdown is over. There will be more people With the virus after the lockdown. Just a thought🤔

[petermisc]

Just asking - what will change after lockdown. There still will be more than 200k with the virus outside. End of May there will be even more, so what. Kids will go to school in June. What is the difference if you punt now or after they say that lockdown is over. There will be more people With the virus after the lockdown. Just a thought🤔

It all depends on what you mean by "after lockdown".  It won't suddenly all be turned off.  Measures of one kind or another are likely to be in place until well into next year, probably until a vaccine or mitigating drugs are available.

There will obviously be many people who have had the virus after lockdown.  But lockdown measures won't be lifted until the number of infectious people, those who you can catch the virus from, has dropped considerably.

[workinallweek]

The lockdown is perely a way of relieving the strain on the NHS  . When it ends they are hoping they can cope with the second wave if it looks dodgy then a lockdown will restart .