English Anabella - June (Gloucester Road) and December 2019 (Earl's Court)

[Jerk Chicken]

Jerk Chicken I’m not defending anyone, I’m calling out the use of racist language and giving my opinion on it. I wasn't defending the alleged black attacker on Megan when I said it was BS, I was calling out what I saw as fabrication.

I’d recommend Punters look over that Saga and how I again called out a racial allegation and see the similarities to this situation. The SP is irrelevant in this and I’ve said nothing favourable about her here if you read through my comments.

I have read all your comments and these are the pertinent points that to me equal a defence.

- you say OP's account is bullshit
- you say OP allegedly sold the phone on eBay so his version cannot be verified. So fabricated.
- you say very unlikely THIS SP would use the N word. Strong statement bro.. how do you know this?
- You say if this SP did use the N word it would be used as a term of endearment.
- district lack of objectivity on your part. The SP has gone out of her way to post an AW blog but is unable to post screen grabs to support her version. But you assume her version is true as it more or less sums up your position. 

Look at that mini list hard mate. Perhaps 2-3 times then ask yourself does this amount to an impassioned defence of English Anabella?

Totally fishy mate!

[king tarzan]

Gosh we need Trevor Phillips on here to mediate this now!!!!

[Jerk Chicken]

Gosh we need Trevor Phillips on here to mediate this now!!!!

 

[Gentlelovemaking]

I have read all your comments and these are the pertinent points that to me equal a defence.

- you say OP's account is bullshit
- you say OP allegedly sold the phone on eBay so his version cannot be verified. So fabricated.
- you say very unlikely THIS SP would use the N word. Strong statement bro.. how do you know this?
- You say if this SP did use the N word it would be used as a term of endearment.
- district lack of objectivity on your part. The SP has gone out of her way to post an AW blog but is unable to post screen grabs to support her version. But you assume her version is true as it more or less sums up your position. 

Look at that mini list hard mate. Perhaps 2-3 times then ask yourself does this amount to an impassioned defence of English Anabella?

Totally fishy mate!

Can you quote everything I said, these is your version of what I said. Reference things from my comments.

You’ve miss quoted me and I’d like that cleared up first.

Again I’ve said it’s about the racial connotations here and referenced a time when I stood up against someone making what I said were fabrications and it’s been glossed over.

Read me calling out Megan and Yeboah In the archives and see how that ended.

[Jerk Chicken]

Can you quote everything I said, these is your version of what I said. Reference things from my comments.

You’ve miss quoted me and I’d like that cleared up first.

Again I’ve said it’s about the racial connotations here and referenced a time when I stood up against someone making what I said were fabrications and it’s been glossed over.

Read me calling out Megan and Yeboah In the archives and see how that ended.

Mate don't make yourself look an idiot .. if you want me to scroll back and highligh each post to support my mini shopping list I will. I do not pluck things from thin air so be careful.

I accept it does not read well in the cold light of day but it is what it is!

[Gentlelovemaking]

Mate don't make yourself look an idiot .. if you want me to scroll back and highligh each post to support my mini shopping list I will. I do not pluck things from thin air so be careful.

I accept it does not read well in the cold light of day but it is what it is!

That’s how you’d prove what I said. Otherwise it’s your interpretation of what I said.

I don’t like to throw words around like “idiot” so best you do the above or else you may be the one who ends up looking like this.

I am intrigued to see these quotes I must say

[unus669]

Mate don't make yourself look an idiot .. if you want me to scroll back and highligh each post to support my mini shopping list I will. I do not pluck things from thin air so be careful.

I accept it does not read well in the cold light of day but it is what it is!

JC stop it, it’s embarrassing GLM, will keep digging 

[Gentlelovemaking]

JC stop it, it’s embarrassing GLM will keep digging 

Embarrassing for whom may I ask?

[unus669]

Embarrassing for whom may I ask?

Have a guess

[Gentlelovemaking]

Have a guess

Let’s see what my quotes look like and we can objectively see what’s what Unus699.

I’d much rather keep the discussion over board and avoid resorting to insults.

Feel free to put up my quotes from this review as well so that everything is fair. I’m happy to accept the error in my ways if I’m wrong but hate it when I see people resort to insults when there’s no need at all.

[peter purves]

It is not lost on me that you hang in to the "mystery phone" allegedly  sold on eBay. Funny she also mentions the phone in her blog. Equally funny how she is unable to post screen grabs on her AW blog to back up her claim.

English Anabella I am sure you are reading things said on "THAT SITE". Post a second blog with proof of the text exchange otherwise shut da fuck up!

This is a good point the primie facie evidence from both SP and OP is unavailable

If the SP could produce the primie facie the case would be closed Lt. Colombo 

[unus669]

Let’s see what my quotes look like and we can objectively see what’s what Unus699.

I’d much rather keep the discussion over board and avoid resorting to insults.

Feel free to put up my quotes from this review as well so that everything is fair. I’m happy to accept the error in my ways if I’m wrong but hate it when I see people resort to insults when there’s no need at all.

Why don’t you re-post, the full quote of what JC allegedly quoted out of context. I’m not gonna play that childish game with you. Your premise, that a mixed race person cannot use the N word, has been debunked on this thread several times over. Everything else is just defection and hot air. The only question is why you keep digging

[Gentlelovemaking]

Why don’t you re-post, the full quote of what JC allegedly quoted out of context. I’m not gonna play that childish game with you. Your premise, that a mixed race person cannot use the N word, has been debunked on this thread several times over. Everything else is just defection and hot air. The only question is why you keep digging

Again another miss quote re: the use of the N word.

If you post my quotes we will all see what I’ve actually said thus there’s no ambiguity.

If I’ve been miss represented I’d like to think either you and or JC will hold up there hand and move the conversation forward.

Why the continued use of insults is it necessary?

Surely you can make a point with using an insult. I don’t see the need to insult you so best we all keep it civil.

As for digging .....not sure what you mean here. If the quotes are posted then maybe there’s grounds for this but until then I’m saying JC has posted his interpretation of what I said which is factually incorrect which can be supported by my quotes on here.

[unus669]

Again another miss quote re: the use of the N word.

If you post my quotes we will all see what I’ve actually said thus there’s no ambiguity.

If I’ve been miss represented I’d like to think either you and or JC will hold up there hand and move the conversation forward.

Why the continued use of insults is it necessary?

Surely you can make a point with using an insult. I don’t see the need to insult you so best we all keep it civil.

As for digging .....not sure what you mean here. If the quotes are posted then maybe there’s grounds for this but until then I’m saying JC has posted his interpretation of what I said which is factually incorrect which can be supported by my quotes on here.

GLM this kinda deflection and denial of what’s written on a public thread is disingenuous. You claim you’ve been misquoted, but asking those that say you haven’t been misquoted, to provide the proof

[Jerk Chicken]

Well @GLM you asked for it. Be careful what you wish for!

[Jerk Chicken]

My point was that it’s unlikely the SP would call a Punter the N word given her own ethnicity ( yes black people call each other it all the time but let’s be realistic here).

OP sold the phone that had the evidence on it.

OP isn’t black.

I said it didn’t stack up to me, say the service wasn’t great or what you want but accusing an SP of calling you the N word would require some support given the fact it’s not even a term used widely on our shores even SP’s with NBA’s don’t go that deep.

- Reference to the SP is unlikely to use the N word
- Objectivity regarding the phone when the SP has no evidence either and so far has fail to disclose it

More to follow ....

[Jerk Chicken]

Rio’s reference of Ashley Cole was that of a Choc Ice. I wouldn’t say either leans to the black or white side because if you’re British id imagine that will be your dominant culture.

With regards to SP saying “coloured people” do we really believe these are her words and there’s been no spice added by OP? Coloured the N word! I don’t hear mixed race/black or racially ambiguous people use these terms, more so these are the words of the middle aged who grew up when these terms were acceptable use and not an SP of her years. Im not convinced either term was used.

Even though OP told the SP he would post screen grabs the phone was sold on eBay so we will never know will we.

Lack of objectivity .. where is the SP's proof. Why did you not question her failure to post the evidence on AW like I did but you are quick to cast doubt on OP selling his phone on eBay

[Gentlelovemaking]

- Reference to the SP is unlikely to use the N word
- Objectivity regarding the phone when the SP has no evidence either and so far has fail to disclose it

More to follow ....

OP said he sold his phone therefore it’s not not an allegation It’s his statement of fact.

I said it’s unlikely it would be used as an insult and shown above. I don’t believe a mixed rave person will call a black person the N word in a derogatory sense As in my own experience it’s not how black people insult each other. Again I said the word unlikely and not definitely so don’t see any issue with my comment.

[Gentlelovemaking]

Lack of objectivity .. where is the SP's proof. Why did you not question her failure to post the evidence on AW like I did but you are quick to cast doubt on OP selling his phone on eBay

Lack of objectivity? He said the SP said this surely he should back up his statements?

If you make an accusation the burden of proof is on you

[Gentlelovemaking]

Well @GLM you asked for it. Be careful what you wish for!

Your statements haven’t been supported with the quotes you brought up of me.

[Jerk Chicken]

“Black Mannerisms”, “White Mannerisms”. There’s a lot of sterotyping going on here. I’d be intrigued to know what these mannerisms are and the connotations behind them. But I digress.

The SP is no Essex girl I can assure you , I’ve actually seen her on a night out in central London but won’t go into any specifics. Fact is she can be identified as black imo despite her fair skin and mixed ethnicity which [/b]leads me back to the point that it’s not reasonable for her to call a punter the N word.[/b]

Fact is in the UK it’s not even a world we really use.

I have one point I’d like you to think of, name a time you’ve ever heard an SP use that term or of a review where that term has been used. I can’t think of at which is why I doubt the use of the word in this interaction.

Classic White Knighting

Impassioned defence of the SP.

How do you know she is no Essex girl please tell us. Please tell us why it is not reasonable for her to use the N word

[Jerk Chicken]

In case anyone is in any doubt.

I’m calling BS on the use of the N word here, it doesn’t stack up to me and selling your phone on eBay so the message can’t be displayed on here all sounds a bit fabricated to me.

Surely it can’t just be me that see’s this or have I got this wrong.

Evidence you said OP's version is fabricated and his report of the N word is BS

[Gentlelovemaking]

Well @GLM you asked for it. Be careful what you wish for!

Jerk Chicken don’t make this personal, I genuinely believe OP has missed a lot out of this review and my standpoint is solely based on eradicating the use of racial slurs and insults full stop.

Nothing ive said supports the SP and only the use of racial terms has been called out as BS as the rest of his review sounds fine to me.

I ask you to look at this objectively and tell me if you are a black me to ask yourself if you or your family peers would refer to black people as “coloured”.

Can you imagine using that term at work ? And in defence of your dating preferences ? If you were a “coloured person”.

I will admit I’m not always right and have much to learn but I’ve presented my view point and insulted no one and I ask you look at this objectively free of insults and understand why I’ve come to this conclusion.

[Gentlelovemaking]

Evidence you said OP's version is fabricated and his report of the N word is BS

Why do you continue to gloss over my words I said “sounds fabricated” and given why I’ve said this.

[Gentlelovemaking]

Classic White Knighting

Impassioned defence of the SP.

How do you know she is no Essex girl please tell us. Please tell us why it is not reasonable for her to use the N word

This is the easy way to respond, classic comment about being a WK when most punters who know me (5 years) know which SP’s I’ve seen regularly and will attest that the said SP isn’t one of them nor one that appeals to me.

The last of her fan boys was Yaboah and we all know that story.

[Jerk Chicken]

@GLM oh come on ... it's not personal.

I have supplied the evidence that relate to each point in my mini shopping list. The full context is there for all to see I have not made anything up.

"sounds fabricated" followed by the review is BS means what to you?

We both believe OP is not telling the whole truth. But equally neither is the SP via her her AW blog.

This soley comes down to why you have gone out of your way to take the side of the SP rather than OP when neuher can supply evidence.

I have given a clear reasons why I have sided with OP on this one and I would like to think they are reasonably objective.

Sadly some of us simply cannot say the same for your reasoning so we have to conclude there is something fishy going on.

You still can't tell the forum how you know these things e.g she is no Essex girl, unlikely to use the N word etc

[Gentlelovemaking]

Classic White Knighting

Impassioned defence of the SP.

How do you know she is no Essex girl please tell us. Please tell us why it is not reasonable for her to use the N word

She’s not an Essex girl, Essex girls are my Bread and Butter. Where’s the defence of the SP in this comment JC.

Saying a girl isn’t an Essex girl makes you a white Knight ? Makes no sense to me this one

[Jerk Chicken]

This is the easy way to respond, classic comment about being a WK when most punters who know me (5 years) know which SP’s I’ve seen regularly and will attest that the said SP isn’t one of them nor one that appeals to me.

The last of her fan boys was Yaboah and we all know that story.

Mate pussy does strange things to people including me. I have found myself in some very strange situations (civvie life) that has led me to sometimes question my sanity; indeed I was having a convo with a personal friend only yesterday over the phone the strange situations we have found ourselves in because of pussy. We just had to laugh ..  so just because you was a "good boy" then it does not mean you have not turned in a "deceitful man" now!

Something is fishy both of you mentioning the phone does not sit well with me. Cal me a cynic but ...

[Gentlelovemaking]

@GLM oh come on ... it's not personal.

I have supplied the evidence that relate to each point in my mini shopping list. The full context is there for all to see I have not made anything up.

"sounds fabricated" followed by the review is BS means what to you?

We both believe OP is not telling the whole truth. But equally neither is the SP via her her AW blog.

This soley comes down to why you have gone out of your way to take the side of the SP rather than OP when neuher can supply evidence.

I have given a clear reasons why I have sided with OP on this one and I would like to think they are reasonably objective.

Sadly some of us simply cannot say the same for your reasoning so we have to conclude there is something fishy going on.

You still can't tell the forum how you know these things e.g she is no Essex girl, unlikely to use the N word etc

I said the use of the N word was BS. Honestly just quote me exactly it’s easier. Everyone can see what I’ve sad so they’ll hold me to account as well.

Megan and Nancy May were the Essex girls in Yaboahs stable, when the whole saga unfolded it came up. SP doesn’t come across as a “typical Essex girl” so would seem accurate that she isn’t as was documented at the time.

[Jerk Chicken]

I have now supplied you with direct quotes that cover each point on my mini shoping list just incase you thought they didn't exist.

There was zero need to tell us she is no Essex girl. What do you even mean ? She is posh totty, educated totty? What exactly ?

[Gentlelovemaking]

Mate pussy does strange things to people including me. I have found myself in some very strange situations (civvie life) that has led me to sometimes question my sanity; indeed I was having a convo with a personal friend only yesterday over the phone the strange situations we have found ourselves in because of pussy. We just had to laugh ..  so just because you was a "good boy" then it does not mean you have not turned in a "deceitful man" now!

Something is fishy both of you mentioning the phone does not sit well with me. Cal me a cynic but ...

I’ve asked for you to stop throwing insults, I won’t go down that road but you’re better than that.

The WK agreement isn’t even valid in a case that’s based on racism surely ?

I’m not sure where you’ve seen that we’ve said the same thing in the last point you’ve made, probs need to enlighten me here.

[Gentlelovemaking]

I know what he means. He means in terms of mannerisms...He's saying she has more "white girl" mannerisms/tendencies than "black girl" mannerisms.... which may be due to her being in an environment full of predominantly white girls. Like when you come across a black individual that went to a predominantly white school, they pick up mannerisms not associated with how black people "carry themselves" which may lead to people saying oh that person acts "white" which is odd to say considering it is not possible to act "white". Or when a white individual goes to a school that they are the minority and they pick up mannerisms not associated with white people, which leads to people saying oh, they are trying to act "black" or so and so. Riduculous I know, but what he's getting at is.... scrap her ethnicity and she's pretty much a white essex girl.

It's very difficult to put into words, but if you got a mixed race girl from brixton and one from the most caucasian area you can think of like eltham/essex/swansea etc, where there is more likely to different culture balance in terms of interactions with different ethnicities and ethinic populations...you'll know straight away what he means. I hope what I said made sense, bloody hard to explain, normally people just get it when someone says a statment like that (So and so is more white than black).

@Jerk Chicken my comment re her not being an Essex girl is in reference to this .

[Gentlelovemaking]

I have now supplied you with direct quotes that cover each point on my mini shoping list just incase you thought they didn't exist.

There was zero need to tell us she is no Essex girl. What do you even mean ? She is posh totty, educated totty? What exactly ?

I’ve responded to your shopping list, I don’t believe the quotes you’ve provided state anything other than my “opinions” which have been stated as such.

I’ve also proven where you’ve miss quoted me and where OP has made personal statements which I’ve referred to that are not my own.

The quote re the Essex girl was in response to PayYourWayMate.

read what I say without glossing over points

[Jerk Chicken]

Apologies if you think my posts are in anyway insulting.

I do stand by that you have not been objective, you can clearly see I have posted each of your quotes that are linked to my mini shopping list.

Only you will know why you felt so strongly to say OPs account was BS, fabricated and you do not believe this SP would use the N word despite many saying it is very possible that she did. It is not as if she has supplied evidence when she clearly is in a position to do so via her AW blog to clear her name. I know if that was me and I have taken the time to write a blog the supporting evidence redacted to protect any privacy issues would be posted also.

That my friend speaks volumes.

[Gentlelovemaking]

Apologies if you think my posts are in anyway insulting.

I do stand by that you have not been objective, you can clearly see I have posted each of your quotes that are linked to my mini shopping list.

Only you will know why you felt so strongly to say OPs account was BS, fabricated and you do not believe this SP would use the N word despite many saying it is very possible that she did. It is not as if she has supplied evidence when she clearly is in a position to do so via her AW blog to clear her name.

That my friend speaks volumes.

It didn’t stack up to me and race is touchy subject of late.

I didn’t know she had a blog entry about OP tbh, she’s not on my hot list. Given the blog entry I can see where you’re coming from, I was totally oblivious to it but racism enrages me.

If you do look at the Yaboah saga I ripped into Megan over her lie about a Black Man assaulting her outside a Strip Club by an Alleyway.

[Meursault]

Mixed race individuals can be racists, it depends on how they perceive themselves. I know of racist mixed race people, it’s not unusual.

+1
I notice her profile has gone now.
Camming can't be paying much.

[Rochelle]

OP said he sold his phone therefore it’s not not an allegation It’s his statement of fact.

I said it’s unlikely it would be used as an insult and shown above. I don’t believe a mixed rave person will call a black person the N word in a derogatory sense As in my own experience it’s not how black people insult each other. Again I said the word unlikely and not definitely so don’t see any issue with my comment.

Happens more than you'd think.

[king tarzan]

Jeremy Corbyn what would he say??

[peter purves]

Happens more than you'd think.

 

Hit it!!

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Crawls back under his boulder

 

[Jerk Chicken]

+1
I notice her profile has gone now.
Camming can't be paying much.

Pour yourself a glass of vintage port UKP and tip your hat

Clearly she has been reading the muck on "THAT SITE".  Her ill-informed blog post has backfired spectacularly. She realises now she cannot show the text messages to clear her name because they don't exist.

Mar 28th - Apr 3rd Following OP's review many on here call her out saying it is possible she  did use the N word as per OP's review. She is invited to post the screen grabs to clear her name.

Apr 1st: She posts her AW blog in response to OP's review challenging his version of events. Fails to provide any proof in the aforementioned blog post.

Apri 3rd: She removes her profile probably to let all this blow over and pop back up in a few weeks/months time when the sea is calm

Coincidence? 2+2=5? ... decide for yourselves.

[Jerk Chicken]

If anyone is any doubt that she reads UKP here is a screenshot taken at 08:24 today reading this thread lol!

Caught with your grubby hands in the tilll as they say 

English Anabella clear your name sis post the screen grabs here and disprove OP's version of events.

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[unus669]

Pour yourself a glass of vintage port UKP and tip your hat

Clearly she has been reading the muck on "THAT SITE".  Her ill-informed blog post has backfired spectacularly. She realises now she cannot show the text messages to clear her name because they don't exist.

Mar 28th - Apr 3rd Following OP's review many on here call her out saying it is possible she  did use the N word as per OP's review. She is invited to post the screen grabs to clear her name.

Apr 1st: She posts her AW blog in response to OP's review challenging his version of events. Fails to provide any proof in the aforementioned blog post.

Apri 3rd: She removes her profile probably to let all this blow over and pop back up in a few weeks/months time when the sea is calm

Coincidence? 2+2=5? ... decide for yourselves.

Her MO with the blog, is similar to what her friends Franny, YLF et al did when they had their scenario , so to speak. Back then I said she is no different from that bunch and wouldn’t touch her with a barge pole. She has proved me right, time and time again. If she conforms with her habit, she’ll be back grovelling, seeking forgiveness and stating how naive she has been. Unfortunately a stiff cock can be so forgiving for some, we’ve all been there

[Jerk Chicken]

Her MO with the blog, is similar to what her friends Franny, YLF et al did when they had their scenario , so to speak. Back then I said she is no different from that bunch and wouldn’t touch her with a barge pole. She has proved me right, time and time again. If she conforms with her habit, she’ll be back grovelling, seeking forgiveness and stating how naive she has been. Unfortunately a stiff cock can be so forgiving for some, we’ve all been there

Here here ... to stiff cock

I trust our learned friend @GLM will now see the error of his ways. The evidence against her is overwhelming especially as we now know she is a member on here.

[Gentlelovemaking]

Here here ... to stiff cock

I trust our learned friend @GLM will now see the error of his ways. The evidence against her is overwhelming especially as we now know she is a member on here.

If she said this to OP she’s cancelled and I’ll accept I got this wrong.

I didn’t know she was on this forum, probably a good time to give her version of events.

[king tarzan]

If she said this to OP she’s cancelled and I’ll accept I got this wrong.

I didn’t know she was on this forum, probably a good time to give her version of events.

just ignore Anus669 he just loves to start others off against this particular SP even though he has never met her.. obviously he has nothing better to do in his sad prick of an existence sad little life..
I don't know what JC has against her??? she has really got his back up for some reason..
This thread has gone haywire.. there is no clear cut evidence from the OP and SP... as to regards who is wrong and who is right..

[Gentlelovemaking]

I agree the thread has taken a turn in a direction it shouldn’t have.

I also agree there isn’t any evidence from either party here.

I have an opinion which I think is well reasoned and others don’t which I accept.

Only OP and SP can really tell us what happened here, my guess is there’s a lot more to this than has been said so far.

[king tarzan]

I agree the thread has taken a turn in a direction it shouldn’t have.

I also agree there isn’t any evidence from either party here.

I have an opinion which I think is well reasoned and others don’t which I accept.

Only OP and SP can really tell us what happened here, my guess is there’s a lot more to this than has been said so far.

 

[ratedj]

I agree the thread has taken a turn in a direction it shouldn’t have.

I also agree there isn’t any evidence from either party here.

I have an opinion which I think is well reasoned and others don’t which I accept.

Only OP and SP can really tell us what happened here, my guess is there’s a lot more to this than has been said so far.

I arrived at this conclusion a while back! Everythng else is null and void lol.

[king tarzan]

I arrived at this conclusion a while back! Everythng else is null and void lol.

gosh this has been dragging back and forth like a long tennis match rally!!!  well at least that has an outcome 

[Jerk Chicken]

just ignore Anus669 he just loves to start others off against this particular SP even though he has never met her.. obviously he has nothing better to do in his sad prick of an existence sad little life..
I don't know what JC has against her??? she has really got his back up for some reason..
This [thread has gone haywire.. there is no clear cut evidence from the OP and SP... as to regards who is wrong and who is right..

I have nothing against this SP at all.

My brain dragged me in when I saw the unrelentless defence by @GLM stating it is unlikely this SP would use the N word with nothing to to really back it up. Many posters pointed out  it was a possibility, that's all we ever stated a possibility but @GLM wasn't having it. We gave our reasons why we arrived at the possibility that the N word was used. I don't think that is to hard to understand.

We are on lockdown lol ... it's been a good debate.

It has reached an interrsting point.

The SP is a member of this forum she has an opportunity to put the record straight. OP has allegedly sold the phone on eBay. She has the keys to solve the mystery. She can use them to open the door. Debate over.

I put it to you if she chooses not to then her blog post on AW was filled with untruths and she did indeed use the N word hence removing her profile yesterday so no AW searches can uncover a link to this thread.