Stardustx in Croydon: a happy ending with wild and crazy sex

[A Decent Fist]

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This is going to seem like the biggest volte face in UK Punting history. Last Friday I turned up at this escort's postcode and got radio silence. I was thoroughly pissed off and gave her negative feedback on Adultwork and a negative review here, all within a few hours. Here's the review:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=273364.0

Turns out I was too hasty. She kept texting me with profuse apologies and offers to make it up, including a free booking if I wanted it. The first of these messages was sent before she'd seen the negative FB on AW (I don't think she knows about UK Punting). Then after she did see it she got back in touch on Sunday and stressed that her freebie offer was not conditional on me leaving her any new feedback on Adultwork.

I played it cool at first, suggesting I might be able to see her in the daytime on Tuesday. I decided not to push it, and wait to see if she got back to me. She did, sending a text early on Tuesday asking if I had a time in mind. But my punting phone was switched off and I did not check it until 4.30 in the afternoon. I replied to say I could see her at 6pm, but by the time she saw the text (her phone is on silent when she's with a client) it was too late for me.

The articulate way she expressed herself in these messages and her eagerness to make good for her bad behaviour impressed me in the end, and we made a booking for an hour on Wednesday evening. The deal was that I could pay her whatever amount I wanted, or not pay her at all.

So that's the long-winded preamble – here's the actual review.

Comms: All by text until she called me five minutes before I got there to say she was ready. She's English and very nicely spoken (though, like me, she grew up on a council estate).

Venue: Spacious and tidy ground-floor flat in a quiet cul-de-sac a brisk 10-minute walk from Selhurst station or a slightly longer walk from East Croydon. Clean and modern bathroom with a choice of shower gels. Clean towel provided.

Girl: When Stardustx opened the door and I saw her in skimpy black lingerie under a see-through wrap with towering silver stiletto heels (she's 6ft tall without them) I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. This girl could have been designed to appeal to every one of my preferences. Just on the cusp of slenderness and skinniness. Tiny hips with a thigh gap. No real tits but perfect bee-sting nipples. And a girlish face that made her seem much younger than her stated 28 years. Her hair is shorter than in AW profile pics – a kind of blonde streaked Ziggy Stardust long-at-the-back style that really suits her. She reminded me in her bearing and overall look of that tall and gorgeous actress Elizabeth Debicki (just below). She seemed mildly tipsy, but in an attractive and sexy way, and maybe that's just the way she is.

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Meeting: We got on like a house on fire from the very first moment. She smothered me in kisses and said how happy she was that I'd given her a second chance. I handed her the bottle of champagne I'd brought – which prompted a new flurry of kissing and fondling– then I went for a shower.

When I came back she had carefully hung up my clothes and poured us two glasses of bubbly. We said "cheers", took a few sips, then went to the bedroom, which was nicely illuminated wth fairy lights on the headboard. What happened over the next 40 minutes or so was, without exaggeration, the wildest and most passionate sex of my life so far. She told me as we started that anal and bareback were not offer, but other than that I could do exactly what I wanted to her and she would enjoy every moment.

What did we get up to? Deep and sloppy French kissing. Vigorous and sloppy OWO with her asking me exactly how I liked it and maintaining erotic eye contact throughout. Switching to 69 with her on top, then somehow me on top with one, then two, then three, then four fingers inside her pussy as my tongue worshipped her clit. She would have had no problem with full-hand fisting but my hands are huge and her pussy is tight so it was physically impossible.

She spit all over my cock and I spit on her pussy. We spit in each other's mouths. I slapped her arse cheeks with reckless abandon. She had two squirting orgasms from tonguing and fingering then I face-fucked her over the end of the bed. I rimmed her arsehole while she lay back with her legs in the air, then I had an overwhelming desire to fuck her in missionary like that – quick manoeuvre to get a condom in place – then I got inside of her and pounded for all I was worth. She came once again, clawing and kissing me all over.

I wanted to cum deep inside of her but it wasn't happening. After slowing down and stopping, she suggested more OWO in front of her mirrored wardrobe so we could both see the action. She knelt on a pillow on the floor, swallowing my fat six inches and encouraging me to grab her head and fuck her mouth as vigorously as I could. This I did, but I still wasn't close to orgasm, so I took over with a high-speed wank that finally delivered a  spurt of thick white spunk into her waiting mouth. After smearing the last drops all over her face, we had a deep, cum-filled kiss and I collapsed onto the bed, spent and delirious with pleasure.

Just before I left I handed over £100 – her normal rate for the hour I'd spent is £150. She'd repeated that I didn't need to pay her if I didn't want to, but I'd had a fabulous time and I want to see this girl again, so I paid her a reasonable sum. Maybe she's difficult to pin down, maybe you'll be left in the street feeling like a stupid old cunt like I was a few days before. But my god, if you do get to fuck her you will not regret it.

[LLPunting]

So who's going to chance a visit to see if she's still as good when her reputation doesn't have to be salvaged?   

And who's going to try offering 100 for an hour or blackmail her for a review given she's now been shown to be susceptible?   

This girl and OP have made a thick, veiny rod for her back 

All a bit of a car crash.

[myothernameis]

She told me as we started that anal and bareback were not offer, but other than that I could do exactly what I wanted to her and she would enjoy every moment.

Just before I left I handed over £100 – her normal rate for the hour I'd spent is £150.

The way it has been put, anal and bareback not on offer, raises a question with me, and was this because the fee for the hour was £100

[Belgarion]

So who's going to chance a visit to see if she's still as good when her reputation doesn't have to be salvaged?   

And who's going to try offering 100 for an hour or blackmail her for a review given she's now been shown to be susceptible?   

This girl and OP have made a thick, veiny rod for her back 

All a bit of a car crash.

Yup, nice of the SP to offer to make amends but I'm not sure the way the review has been written will help things.

Sometimes, less is more.

[winkywanky]

My my, so much negativity  .

Taken at face value, this all seems pretty reasonable...WG lets punter down, punter quite rightly writes negative reviews on both AW and UKP (and how many punters do the former, really?) WG is apologetic and keen to make amends.

It's debatable whether the WG really hasn't heard of UKP, and whether she'd seen the bad AW feedback before making her conciliatory offer, nevertheless, she's relatively new on AW and seemingly keen to get off to a good start with her business.

So, punter gives her a second chance and has a great punt. Yes, it might be argued that she gave him the fuck of his life to ensure he didn't leave without paying at all (which he could have done), or perhaps she was so keen to salvage her rep on AW. Maybe her service is that good anyway, at this early stage in her AW life? Nevertheless, punter gave her £100 at the end of the punt which seems fair in the circumstances, and apparently both parties were happy with this.

Yes, there'll be a few oafs now, chancing their arm by offering her £100 for an hour (and quite possibly with the 'promise of a good UKP review' if she comes up with the goods). But suspicions about whether bareback or anal are normally on offer under the table, merely because she said 'anything goes apart from those two things'? I can't really see the reasoning in that, bearing in mind her profile Enjoys include pretty well everything else.

Regarding the 'style' of the review, I think that's normal for ADF, but if he has bad service he's never been one to hold back IMO, or be fluffy or nice for the sake of it.

As ever, it's for people to make up their own minds on seeing her, based on what they've read here. There are some who'll be deeply sceptical, there'll be others who think she's worth a punt.

[winkywanky]

Hmmm, checking her other reviews now, she does seem to be a bit flaky with her comms, but if you get to see her, she's a good fuck  .

Whether she's double-booking or not is anybody's guess.

I think the lure of a potentially-hot punt will be enough for many. Be interesting to see what future reviews will contain.

[A Decent Fist]

And who's going to try offering 100 for an hour or blackmail her for a review given she's now been shown to be susceptible?

Never occurred to me that anyone would think that, or be that stupid. Punters should never talk about UKP reviews to an escort unless she raises the subject first.

The way it has been put, anal and bareback not on offer, raises a question with me, and was this because the fee for the hour was £100

She didn't know how much I was going to pay, or not pay, until the end. It's simply that she does not do anal or bareback.

[Fuzzyduck]

Never occurred to me that anyone would think that, or be that stupid. Punters should never talk about UKP reviews to an escort unless she raises the subject first.

And even if the SP does raise UKP, denial of its existence is the only acceptable way forward.

Thanks for telling both sides. I do not think you were unduly hasty; she deserved the initial negative review.

Besides her total unreliability and rampant sexual appetite, the other thing that is clear across her reviews and profile is that she likes a drink.

[unus669]

My my, so much negativity  .

Taken at face value, this all seems pretty reasonable...WG lets punter down, punter quite rightly writes negative reviews on both AW and UKP (and how many punters do the former, really?) WG is apologetic and keen to make amends.

It's debatable whether the WG really hasn't heard of UKP, and whether she'd seen the bad AW feedback before making her conciliatory offer, nevertheless, she's relatively new on AW and seemingly keen to get off to a good start with her business.

So, punter gives her a second chance and has a great punt. Yes, it might be argued that she gave him the fuck of his life to ensure he didn't leave without paying at all (which he could have done), or perhaps she was so keen to salvage her rep on AW. Maybe her service is that good anyway, at this early stage in her AW life? Nevertheless, punter gave her £100 at the end of the punt which seems fair in the circumstances, and apparently both parties were happy with this.

Yes, there'll be a few oafs now, chancing their arm by offering her £100 for an hour (and quite possibly with the 'promise of a good UKP review' if she comes up with the goods). But suspicions about whether bareback or anal are normally on offer under the table, merely because she said 'anything goes apart from those two things'? I can't really see the reasoning in that, bearing in mind her profile Enjoys include pretty well everything else.

Regarding the 'style' of the review, I think that's normal for ADF, but if he has bad service he's never been one to hold back IMO, or be fluffy or nice for the sake of it.

As ever, it's for people to make up their own minds on seeing her, based on what they've read here. There are some who'll be deeply sceptical, there'll be others who think she's worth a punt.

I agree with WW 

[Jerk Chicken]

Thanks for the detailed and interesting review @ A Decent Fist.

To me anecdotal evidence suggest she was aware of the AW negative when she made contact with OP. You will see she has responded  to OP's negative and laid near she was prepared to offer a free fuck which she says OP rejected. So that's where this review and her response differs.

That said she is a clearly a  smart WG who recognises negative feedback will hurt her business so she ensured she put it out there on AW for all to read that a free fuck was on offer as "compensation" for messing OP about.

As a judgement call I take the view she is aware of UKP.

In summary both punters who have fucked and reviewed her on here left very happy so she clearly has some talent.

She was on my HL from the previous review I see no reason to remove her BUT I will ensure when I make the trek to Croydon I will have a plan B/C within reasonable distance from her place.

[expeller]

She is certainly aware of UKP. I alerted her to her bad review myself. She does not look as attractive as  Elizabeth Debicki  to my eyes. Nor is her flat particularly spacious and it is far from tidy and, if anything, slightly rundown. She does give a good service though she is is bit of a clock watcher and much less of submissive than might be. She likes to do things her way and is prone to take the lead. That said she did offer to pay for a cab back to the station.

I found her a bit too chatty for my liking: eager for me to leave her good feedback on AW and said how the feedback on me was accurate and what a 'gentleman' I was &c.

Her main fault is her absolute unreliability. Ok if you live not too far from her: a pain if you do not.

[Belgarion]

My my, so much negativity  .

Taken at face value, this all seems pretty reasonable...WG lets punter down, punter quite rightly writes negative reviews on both AW and UKP (and how many punters do the former, really?) WG is apologetic and keen to make amends.

It's debatable whether the WG really hasn't heard of UKP, and whether she'd seen the bad AW feedback before making her conciliatory offer, nevertheless, she's relatively new on AW and seemingly keen to get off to a good start with her business.

So, punter gives her a second chance and has a great punt. Yes, it might be argued that she gave him the fuck of his life to ensure he didn't leave without paying at all (which he could have done), or perhaps she was so keen to salvage her rep on AW. Maybe her service is that good anyway, at this early stage in her AW life? Nevertheless, punter gave her £100 at the end of the punt which seems fair in the circumstances, and apparently both parties were happy with this.

Yes, there'll be a few oafs now, chancing their arm by offering her £100 for an hour (and quite possibly with the 'promise of a good UKP review' if she comes up with the goods). But suspicions about whether bareback or anal are normally on offer under the table, merely because she said 'anything goes apart from those two things'? I can't really see the reasoning in that, bearing in mind her profile Enjoys include pretty well everything else.

Regarding the 'style' of the review, I think that's normal for ADF, but if he has bad service he's never been one to hold back IMO, or be fluffy or nice for the sake of it.

As ever, it's for people to make up their own minds on seeing her, based on what they've read here. There are some who'll be deeply sceptical, there'll be others who think she's worth a punt.

If I was in his position, there are some details I would have kept out of the review.

In any event, we all write differently. Poor SP will get many offers of a 100 quid now

[Jerk Chicken]

If I was in his position, there are some details I would have kept out of the review.

In any event, we all write differently. Poor SP will get many offers of a 100 quid now

Nah nobody will be fucking her for 100 queens heads/ph. It's very clear on AW why OP got that offer it's a great PR stunt.

[Jerk Chicken]

She is certainly aware of UKP. I alerted her to her bad review myself. She does not look as attractive as  Elizabeth Debicki  to my eyes. Nor is her flat particularly spacious and it is far from tidy and, if anything, slightly rundown. She does give a good service though she is is bit of a clock watcher and much less of submissive than might be. She likes to do things her way and is prone to take the lead. That said she did offer to pay for a cab back to the station.

I found her a bit too chatty for my liking: eager for me to leave her good feedback on AW and said how the feedback on me was accurate and what a 'gentleman' I was &c.

Her main fault is her absolute unreliability. Ok if you live not too far from her: a pain if you do not.

You really should have done a review to give some balance to her current glowing positives!

[Fuzzyduck]

You really should have done a review to give some balance to her current glowing positives!

You mean in addition to the neutral expeller gave her a month ago for canceling at the last minute? A bit harsh considering he was the first one to review her.

[unus669]

She is certainly aware of UKP. I alerted her to her bad review myself. She does not look as attractive as  Elizabeth Debicki  to my eyes. Nor is her flat particularly spacious and it is far from tidy and, if anything, slightly rundown. She does give a good service though she is is bit of a clock watcher and much less of submissive than might be. She likes to do things her way and is prone to take the lead. That said she did offer to pay for a cab back to the station.

I found her a bit too chatty for my liking: eager for me to leave her good feedback on AW and said how the feedback on me was accurate and what a 'gentleman' I was &c.

Her main fault is her absolute unreliability. Ok if you live not too far from her: a pain if you do not.

Are you saying you told her about UKP 

[Jerk Chicken]

Are you saying you told her about UKP 

This is getting worse ...

OP why would you even be discussing UKP with a WG?????

[expeller]

I often let SP's know how they are being rated on UKP. That way it gives them a chance to up their game. I doubt that ADF would have had the offer he got,  if not for my telling Stardust of his dissatisfaction.

[MLawro93]

I often let SP's know how they are being rated on UKP. That way it gives them a chance to up their game. I doubt that ADF would have had the offer he got,  if not for my telling Stardust of his dissatisfaction.

 

[unus669]

I often let SP's know how they are being rated on UKP. That way it gives them a chance to up their game. I doubt that ADF would have had the offer he got,  if not for my telling Stardust of his dissatisfaction.

I was hoping desperately, I was wrong

Why oh why would any punter do this

[finn5555]

She is certainly aware of UKP. I alerted her to her bad review myself.

Good god 

[LLPunting]

As I said, blackmail...

She might be a fun trick sober but given she's now operating under the threatening cloud of ongoing punter coercion I won't be adding to the exploitation.

A sad turn of events.

[Jerk Chicken]

You mean in addition to the neutral expeller gave her a month ago for canceling at the last minute? A bit harsh considering he was the first one to review her.

Not harsh at all. He gave her a nuetral, which I thought was generous after she fucked him about. He subsequently rebooked, fucked and tagged his less than satisfactory experiences onto @A Decent Fist review. @expeller poor form in my view post a new review so we can get some balance.

[Jerk Chicken]

As I said, blackmail...

She might be a fun trick sober but given she's now operating under the threatening cloud of ongoing punter coercion I won't be adding to the exploitation.

A sad turn of events.

+1

Off the HL

[unus669]

It seems like expeller, has a habit of talking too much and getting too involved with WG.

This thread:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=266098.msg2717110#msg2717110

Reveals how he gets involved, never for the life of me did I think he’d mention UKP to a WG How the f*ck does the conversation start

[MLawro93]

Cue a bunch of lurkers and users offering to write positive reviews for free sex. What a rookie mistake. If she improved her comms then business would naturally improve but now she has completely exposed herself to being exploited by some punters. Lets hope she tells them where to go.

[MLawro93]

It seems like expeller, has a habit of talking too much and getting too involved with WG.

This thread:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=266098.msg2717110#msg2717110

Reveals how he gets involved, never for the life of me did I think he’d mention UKP to a WG How the f*ck does the conversation start

Jesus...

[LLPunting]

It seems like expeller, has a habit of talking too much and getting too involved with WG.

This thread:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=266098.msg2717110#msg2717110

Reveals how he gets involved, never for the life of me did I think he’d mention UKP to a WG How the f*ck does the conversation start

"Hi, are you available <mentions date/time>?  Saw your review(s) on UKP.  Will you do everything mentioned in reviews with me?  I can write a review too."

[unus669]

"Hi, are you available <mentions date/time>?  Saw your review(s) on UKP.  Will you do everything mentioned in reviews with me?  I can write a review too."

 

Let’s say I’m a bit more cynical about how expeller introduces UKP and his motivation.

[Fuzzyduck]

Let’s say I’m a bit more cynical about how expeller introduces UKP and his motivation.

Dark times.

[unus669]

Dark times.

I wonder how many times, he tells his plumber, mechanic, local shop keeper et al about bad reviews they’ve had 

[LLPunting]

I wonder how many times, he tells his plumber, mechanic, local shop keeper et al about bad reviews they’ve had 

Do you think he twirls the ends of his moustache as he says the words?  An arch Terry Thomas perhaps.  (Couldn't remember name but Google "English cad" and Bingo!)

[unus669]

Do you think he twirls the ends of his moustache as he says the words?  An arch Terry Thomas perhaps.  (Couldn't remember name but Google "English cad" and Bingo!)

Who knows, he might come along and demonstrate 

[expeller]

I only know about UKP because an SP told me about its existence.

[Jerk Chicken]

I only know about UKP because an SP told me about its existence.

And ...

[Jerk Chicken]

In the seedy world of dick n fanny this tail is indeed dark times.

Just re-read OP's review together with SP's response on AW to the original booking. Whilst I accept he got a "deal" the whole thing makes me feel seriously uncomfortable. Then we have thrown into the mix punters openly admitting yeah I discuss UKP during my punt. Why? You're there to fuck not to sow seeds of doubt in the SPs mind as in  "you better look after me otherwise I will write a shit review on UKP"

Yes dark times.

[unus669]

I only know about UKP because an SP told me about its existence.

That’s so pathetic 

[LLPunting]

In the seedy world of dick n fanny this tail is indeed dark times.

Just re-read OP's review together with SP's response on AW to the original booking. Whilst I accept he got a "deal" the whole thing makes me feel seriously uncomfortable. Then we have thrown into the mix punters openly admitting yeah I discuss UKP during my punt. Why? You're there to fuck not to sow seeds of doubt in the SPs mind as in  "you better look after me otherwise I will write a shit review on UKP"

Yes dark times.

Turns perception/deduction of UKPers from being a bunch of pitiable horny men who swap tales of sex exploits whilst sharing a drink into an organised bunch of sexual predators exploiting vulnerable women.
Coercing women into sex acts under the threat of reputational harm or indeed promotion of unsustainable service levels is not the behaviour of a punter, it's the behaviour of an abusive pimp.
If OP never intended these consequences then he needs to change his practices right now.

[winkywanky]

As I said, blackmail...

She might be a fun trick sober but given she's now operating under the threatening cloud of ongoing punter coercion I won't be adding to the exploitation.

A sad turn of events.

Blackmail is rather a strong word for some guys inevitably trying to beat her price down over this. I think they'll be very much in the minority and if she has any sense she'll tell them to go take a hike.

If she has a real intent to sort out her unreliability issues as a result of this débacle then I think she has the potential to be a good British SP at a reasonable price. That's what she needs to do.

As for even mentioning UKP, that's always a real no-no  . And expeller, the way I'm reading ADF's review is that she was fairly immediately offering to make up for her shortcomings, therefore nothing whatsoever to do with your alerting her to UKP. Telling WGs about UKP is never a good idea. Of course many know about it already, but even bringing up the subject is frankly stupid. Deny all knowledge of it.

[winkywanky]

I only know about UKP because an SP told me about its existence.

...what, so you feel you have to return the favour with every WG you meet? 

[winkywanky]

Turns perception/deduction of UKPers from being a bunch of pitiable horny men who swap tales of sex exploits whilst sharing a drink into an organised bunch of sexual predators exploiting vulnerable women.
Coercing women into sex acts under the threat of reputational harm or indeed promotion of unsustainable service levels is not the behaviour of a punter, it's the behaviour of an abusive pimp.
If OP never intended these consequences then he needs to change his practices right now.

Notwithstanding the slightly effusive tone of the above review, I fail to see how being more 'matter-of-fact' or restrained about it would have made it less likely for some dickwads to try and take advantage of the girl by quoting it and trying to get discounts/extra services?

Such dickwads will always try to take the piss, they do exist, they are members of UKP, and they will give the rest of us a bad name. Sadly it's true. I just hope there's not too many.

Or do you think ADF shouldn't even have mentioned he eventually had a successful punt with her?

[Dutchmaster]

Telling a wg about UKP is a no no for me, if they knew you were from UKP and would review the punt, they might give a better service hoping you give them a positive review etc theres just no need to mention UKP to a wg at all.

[jacobs1]

sounds like the time my staff got me my first negative google review on my google business page lol i went above and beyond to contact the customer personally and rectify the situation. He was not required to change his feedback after but he was so pleased with how i dealt with it he changed it to a positive. I lost money off that one customer but didn't hurt my brand in the long run

same thing here, most girls will just comment on the negative aw feedback claiming the punter was late or asked for services she doesn't provide etc to try and save face, so fair play to her for going out of her way to make it right

edit: I hadn't read full thread when I posted this and didn't realise the tangent the topic had gone on so apologies if this seems out of context given where the topic has now ended up

[A Decent Fist]

Coercing women into sex acts under the threat of reputational harm or indeed promotion of unsustainable service levels is not the behaviour of a punter, it's the behaviour of an abusive pimp. If OP never intended these consequences then he needs to change his practices right now.

LL, old chap, I'm the OP. I fail to see how me accepting a WG's unsolicited offer of a one-off special deal to make up for her messing me about qualifies for any of the above. Or are you under the impression that Expeller was the OP?

By the way, what the girl said after I handed her a hundred, as well as "thank you, but you don't have to pay unless you want to, you know" is that she would view it simply as her having paid for the champagne. It didn't cost me £50 of course, but that's how she wanted to see it.

[Belgarion]

I often let SP's know how they are being rated on UKP. That way it gives them a chance to up their game. I doubt that ADF would have had the offer he got,  if not for my telling Stardust of his dissatisfaction.

So you are one of those reviewers. Good to know

[expeller]

LL, old chap, I'm the OP. I fail to see how me accepting a WG's unsolicited offer of a one-off special deal to make up for her messing me about qualifies for any of the above. Or are you under the impression that Expeller was the OP?

By the way, what the girl said after I handed her a hundred, as well as "thank you, but you don't have to pay unless you want to, you know" is that she would view it simply as her having paid for the champagne. It didn't cost me £50 of course, but that's how she wanted to see it.

Thanks for putting this in perspective. When I forwarded her your comments she messaged me back saying she was genuinely sorry for what had occurred and was hoping to set it right with you. Which she did.

The more SP's who read UKP the better. It will help them tailor their provision to requirements of their prospective clients.

I have had reductions from SP's who have kept me waiting so long I have had to walk. Apologising for this later they have offered freebies, or reductions much as happened with you.

[Belgarion]

Thanks for putting this in perspective. When I forwarded her your comments she messaged me back saying she was genuinely sorry for what had occurred and was hoping to set it right with you. Which she did.

The more SP's who read UKP the better. It will help them tailor their provision to requirements of their prospective clients.

I have had reductions from SP's who have kept me waiting so long I have had to walk. Apologising for this later they have offered freebies, or reductions much as happened with you.

We've finally found one of the people that forwards UKP posts to SPs.

[unus669]

We've finally found one of the people that forwards UKP posts to SPs.

Cannot believe he is justifying what he has done, been doing, couldn’t make it up

[cunningman]

Cannot believe he is justifying what he has done, been doing, couldn’t make it up

I am inclined to agree with him, and call you on this.  UKP is not secret in any case, nor preventing access without sign-in, and SPs are not all stupid and google-illiterate.  The more that realise that bad service will be noted and shared is to our benefit, I think.  Even without the issues around reviews, the various threads relating to What We Want (including, say, Bareback Avoidance etc) would surely be beneficial for many would-be SPs to understand.  It won't make them younger or prettier - but it might make them focus on what actually matters.  Which for some of us, is not how young and pretty they are.

[expeller]

I am inclined to agree with him, and call you on this.  UKP is not secret in any case, nor preventing access without sign-in, and SPs are not all stupid and google-illiterate.  The more that realise that bad service will be noted and shared is to our benefit, I think.  Even without the issues around reviews, the various threads relating to What We Want (including, say, Bareback Avoidance etc) would surely be beneficial for many would-be SPs to understand.  It won't make them younger or prettier - but it might make them focus on what actually matters.  Which for some of us, is not how young and pretty they are.

Many thanks for backing me up. My motivation has always been to improve things for both punters and SP's.