Parlours: shag or get screwed?

[Horizontal pleasures]

Many years ago, for a quick and impersonal screw or shag (and sometimes a good one) you went to a massage parlour, and sometimes never even had a massage. The fee was very reasonable

Now you go to a massage parlour and have a massage and then you get screwed for more money and do not get a real shag, usually just a hand job which to me is often an unhappy ending.

What happened?

Are there any parlours where you can still get a good shag or screw? Which cities? In London, the thread on mini reviews is long and tortuous and does not easily answer this question.

[latecomer]

I think you're right HP and this goes along with the trend of rising prices by WGs.  These days if you want a decent shag it seems best to find a well reviewed local girl (not too many around in our local area I agree) and go to see her.

[GingerNuts]

Now you go to a massage parlour and have a massage and then you get screwed for more money and do not get a real shag, usually just a hand job which to me is often an unhappy ending.

What you're describing is a massage shop where extras may be offered as an addition to the massage. Usually FS isn't on offer.

A massage parlour is essentially a brothel.

[smiths]

Many years ago, for a quick and impersonal screw or shag (and sometimes a good one) you went to a massage parlour, and sometimes never even had a massage. The fee was very reasonable

Now you go to a massage parlour and have a massage and then you get screwed for more money and do not get a real shag, usually just a hand job which to me is often an unhappy ending.

What happened?

Are there any parlours where you can still get a good shag or screw? Which cities? In London, the thread on mini reviews is long and tortuous and does not easily answer this question.

Old style parlours (brothels) in my area are far too expensive for my liking and want you out asap so they can squeeze as many punters in per day which suits both the WGs and pimp/s. There aren't any in my area less than £130 an hour which includes kissing and OWO. I wouldn't recommend any of these old style parlour/brothels nowadays. What happened was the pimp/s got even more greedy than they were before.

[Horizontal pleasures]

What you're describing is a massage shop where extras may be offered as an addition to the massage. Usually FS isn't on offer.

A massage parlour is essentially a brothel.

You wrote 'A massage parlour is essentially a brothel.' My point is that it was formerly a brothel but now just does massage with unhappy unpredictably priced endings.

[Steely Dan]

Manchester and Edinburgh have proper knocking shops.   

[punterman99]

I guess the difference for me is a "massage parlour" or a "massage shop".  IMHO, a massage parlour is normally a flat or a house where a few girls work and you get to choose the girl and you are guaranteed FS.  A massage shop, usually Chinese, is on the high street (or often low street in the arse end of town) and they sometimes sell herbs and sometimes have a doctor doing acupuncture etc.  Unless you know the girl and can choose her by booking in advance, you normally get the one whose turn it is next so it's just pot luck.   In those shops, FS is not usually available and if it is, it will cost you anything from £60 to £150 in my experience.  But more often than not, the most you can get is a BJ which might be £80.   This is of course, in addition to the massage fee of £40 or £45, so it's not great value for money and you are far from guaranteed.  Depends what you want.  Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya choice... 

[GingerNuts]

You wrote 'A massage parlour is essentially a brothel.' My point is that it was formerly a brothel but now just does massage with unhappy unpredictably priced endings.

A massage shop is not a massage parlour or brothel.

Massage parlours as you understand them still exist and are a different animal.

[LLPunting]

I guess the difference for me is a "massage parlour" or a "massage shop".  IMHO, a massage parlour is normally a flat or a house where a few girls work and you get to choose the girl and you are guaranteed FS.  A massage shop, usually Chinese, is on the high street (or often low street in the arse end of town) and they sometimes sell herbs and sometimes have a doctor doing acupuncture etc.  Unless you know the girl and can choose her by booking in advance, you normally get the one whose turn it is next so it's just pot luck.   In those shops, FS is not usually available and if it is, it will cost you anything from £60 to £150 in my experience.  But more often than not, the most you can get is a BJ which might be £80.   This is of course, in addition to the massage fee of £40 or £45, so it's not great value for money and you are far from guaranteed.  Depends what you want.  Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya choice... 

If you're paying more than 60 tip for FS then you've only yourself to blame for being mugged.  Once the combined price passes 100ph you should be stopping yourself and seeking a "proper" full service provider, whom you can choose wisely via reviews and research for looks and quality or TOFTT (the equivalent of WSWS in a parlour) for the added thrill/frustration.

Most offering the current fad of Nuru and Tantric are scamming as very few know how to deliver this well here in London and all are over-charging for it.  If you want a proper Soapy/Nuru massage then head to Japan/Korea.  The cheaper option is to choose your most sensual regular and see if she's game to learn to do this with you, provided she doesn't start charging you extra once she adds it to her services.

[LLPunting]

A massage shop is not a massage parlour or brothel.

Massage parlours as you understand them still exist and are a different animal.

A massage shop that has multiple girls in different rooms or on different days offering any sexual services for money is a brothel, per legal definition.

[LLPunting]

Old style parlours (brothels) in my area are far too expensive for my liking and want you out asap so they can squeeze as many punters in per day which suits both the WGs and pimp/s. There aren't any in my area less than £130 an hour which includes kissing and OWO. I wouldn't recommend any of these old style parlour/brothels nowadays. What happened was the pimp/s got even more greedy than they were before.

Indeed that seems to have been the way of things for the past many years now.  They all got uppity about what they (thought they) were offering and priced themselves out of the market when the first waves of EE girls (Russians, Latvians, Estonians, Ukrainians) started making an impact at 100-150 ph.  The parlours still had English women working, who mostly couldn't compete on looks or yoof or services.
Now the parlours are fairly seedy, over-priced affairs, some with Latins, some with EEs, some Afro-Caribs, nearly all poor quality SPs.  About the only thing in their favour for the additional price is that you might be able to choose from a line-up.

[smiths]

Indeed that seems to have been the way of things for the past many years now.  They all got uppity about what they (thought they) were offering and priced themselves out of the market when the first waves of EE girls (Russians, Latvians, Estonians, Ukrainians) started making an impact at 100-150 ph.  The parlours still had English women working, who mostly couldn't compete on looks or yoof or services.
Now the parlours are fairly seedy, over-priced affairs, some with Latins, some with EEs, some Afro-Caribs, nearly all poor quality SPs.  About the only thing in their favour for the additional price is that you might be able to choose from a line-up.

And even the line-up option is rare these days compared to years ago in my area, most old style parlours/brothels only have 1 WG on per day so no line-up or maybe 2 WGs available. The only consistently good old style parlour was The Bunny Lounge in my book, it was also bleeding expensive but never had a bad punt their.

The massage shops discussed above are a total waste of my time, all this will she wont she offer this or that, I haven't the time or interest in that shit. I want  a WG who I know offer a FS but too each their own and all that jazz.

[LLPunting]

And even the line-up option is rare these days compared to years ago in my area, most old style parlours/brothels only have 1 WG on per day so no line-up or maybe 2 WGs available. The only consistently good old style parlour was The Bunny Lounge in my book, it was also bleeding expensive but never had a bad punt their.

The massage shops discussed above are a total waste of my time, all this will she wont she offer this or that, I haven't the time or interest in that shit. I want  a WG who I know offer a FS but too each their own and all that jazz.

I never tried The Bunny Lounge so missed out on its heyday, but then I was frequenting Les Girls and Soho Cottage.

Fair 'nuff if FS is your be all and end all but the WSWS shit for other (lesser) things is only WSWS for the first meeting after that she's either someone you can rely on to deliver at least a sufficient service or to avoid in future.  You might only waste the massage fee and refuse the extras or you might waste the tip too.  A slightly better situation than an FS SP who fails to deliver.  (Assuming in both cases no refund is sought/given.)

[southern punter]

You wrote 'A massage parlour is essentially a brothel.' My point is that it was formerly a brothel but now just does massage with unhappy unpredictably priced endings.

Not in Bristol, parlours are still essentially brothels and clearly distinct from massage shops with potential extras.  True, some of the WGs in parlours will try and eat up your minutes by doing actual massages but there's never any doubt that FS is available by default. 

[katmandu]

In North West regional discussion there's a really long "Massage and Hand Relief providers" thread containing many pages of posts along the lines of "had an ok massage and a quick wank at the end and feel of her tits, will ask if there's any more extras on offer next time" type stuff.
I find it all rather peculiar but it's obviously very popular amongst many punters.

[daviemac]

In North West regional discussion there's a really long "Massage and Hand Relief providers" thread containing many pages of posts along the lines of "had an ok massage and a quick wank at the end and feel of her tits, will ask if there's any more extras on offer next time" type stuff.
I find it all rather peculiar but it's obviously very popular amongst many punters.

The massage thread in the NE has 4 times the replies and with nearly 1.4 million views is the largest open thread on the forum, none of those mentioned in the thread are anything like brothels, the local plod don't tolerate them, so no FS on offer.
Massage with HE is very popular.

[John Johnson]

Leicester and Northampton still have old style parlours.

[mike63]

Some in Bristol as well. That's not a recommendation  though.