wynter-raine - Newport - Time waster in my opinion

[pantherblue]

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i have had many many email converstions with this one, and agreed and 4 meets in the last month, never bothered about booking on AW which is always a bit odd,, told me can only do Thurs and Fri during the hours of 9am and 3pm, ok no worries as i work shifts..
Agreed 4 seperate meets, my address given, mobile number the whole 9 yards, but always goes silent on the day and meet never occurs, now if you look at the feedback its all cool until Jan 2019 then goes tits up the last on from SAUCEY SARAH i dont count, so not sure what to make of this one even though its flagged by AW with an alert thats not always the case as i know a few on here with that and they meet no problems.. on further examination Saucey Sarah has feedback from another time waster Good Time Alexandra, so the plot thickens,,,,,,
in my opionion it smells of bollocks but thats me, after 4 no shows and shed loads of crap reasons, busy setting up her own business, internet issues, phone problems, blah blah
i will persue this one out of morbid curiosity well its on costing me an email and will always arrange a day im in so not wasting my time

[Happyjose]

If you had agreed meets you could post this as a review

[Razor Boy]

I have looked at her a number of times and she is on my 2nd Division hotlist. My punting senses have told me that if she is good and she’s in Newport she should be well reviewed and no confusion about her at all. I haven’t made contact thus far but your experience hasn’t filled me with confidence to try and book. Keep us posted if you get anywhere Panther 

[pantherblue]

HP that was my dilema, as the meets were emailed and not a confirmed booking i didnt review, so hence this warning to others

[Happyjose]

HP that was my dilema, as the meets were emailed and not a confirmed booking i didnt review, so hence this warning to others

If she confirmed a time and date by email, text, whatever, you can review. It doesn't have to be on AW

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[OMellors]

If she confirmed a time and date by email, text, whatever, you can review. It doesn't have to be on AW

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That’s an interesting point, HJ

I had one of those

Would you consider a PM here to be a confirmed booking if it gave date / time etc. SP argued that it did not





OM

[Happyjose]

That’s an interesting point, HJ

I had one of those

Would you consider a PM here to be a confirmed booking if it gave date / time etc. SP argued that it did not

OM

If she agreed a booking then review

The SP’s opinion is of little concern

The rules support this:

A new review thread can only be created once a service provider has agreed to a booking. A meet does not need to take place, money does not need change hands, the only criteria is that she had accepted the initial booking

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[scutty brown]

That’s an interesting point, HJ

I had one of those

Would you consider a PM here to be a confirmed booking if it gave date / time etc. SP argued that it did not





OM

In my view, yes
unless at the time she specifically told you she wanted something additional

[scutty brown]

Looks like a PG/video sales profile to me, no intention of whoring

[Mil 34]

That’s an interesting point, HJ

I had one of those

Would you consider a PM here to be a confirmed booking if it gave date / time etc. SP argued that it did not



Who is the sp who is using this site to arrange bookings more to the point.
This is supposed to be a punters site.
Isn’t this against the rules

OM

[Working Wendy]

Not me in any shape or form - that's my entire point, however I believe it is my good self to whom Mellors refers.

A booking was discussed on Adultwork way in advance. As I do with everybody I requested he message me on the morning to confirm he wanted to keep his appointment. Mellors said he wouldn't have access so he would confirm the evening before, but the only messages I received were on UKP and being Mellors it wasn't even crystal clear if that was what he was doing. If he was trying to get me banned I didn't take the bait

In my view, yes
unless at the time she specifically told you she wanted something additional

Yes I waited patiently for him to confirm his booking with me on Adultwork which is where I do my business. It never came so it was assumed cancelled, the same I do with everybody

I'm only surprised Mellors thought arranging bookings on UKP is acceptable. It's not in the least 

[Happyjose]

I'm only surprised Mellors thought arranging bookings on UKP is acceptable. It's not in the least 

Where in the rules does it say this?

The issue is not whether he satisfied your criteria, it’s entirely down to whether the booking meets the rules on this site to enable a review

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[Working Wendy]

Where in the rules does it say this?

The issue is not whether he satisfied your criteria, it’s entirely down to whether the booking meets the rules on this site to enable a review

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This isn't UKE. The UKP rules state zero tolerance for touting. I'd class arranging a booking with a client as touting. The booking was never completed by the client so it doesn't qualify for a review in my opinion, but I would say that 

[Happyjose]

This isn't UKE. The UKP rules state zero tolerance for touting. I'd class arranging a booking with a client as touting. The booking was never completed by the client so it doesn't qualify for a review in my opinion, but I would say that 

Sounds like you’re clutching at straws to me

[NigelF]

I'd class arranging a booking with a client as touting.

It being done via PM and him contacting you first isn't touting 

[Happyjose]

The UKP rules state zero tolerance for touting.

Seems you’re only mindful of the rules on touting when you’re worried about a neg

You should Mr Punt - You're missing out on a world of fun 

[Working Wendy]

Sounds like you’re clutching at straws to me

He can write me a ropey negative if he wants, but it doesn't fulfil the criteria for a review

[Happyjose]

He can write me a ropey negative if he wants, but it doesn't fulfil the criteria for a review

How about an answer to reply #15

[Working Wendy]

Seems you’re only mindful of the rules on touting when you’re worried about a neg

You quoted me referring to Mr Punt's comment that he doesn't use Adultwork, clutching at straws yourself mate 

[Mil 34]

It being done via PM and him contacting you first isn't touting 

The only thing I would do is say to working wendy is to watch out in future and report and messages from punters to admin if she thinks they are dodgy.
I always thought that no business is conducted through this site, no matter who is sending the first correspondence

That is if it was wendy omellors was talking about, a bit of a random post to put on here from him.

[Happyjose]

You quoted me referring to Mr Punt's comment that he doesn't use Adultwork, clutching at straws yourself mate 

Treating the members of this forum with such contempt is unwise

You were clearly touting. Here’s the context

Is wendy as email only or does she have a number. Think this review is gonna make me have a trip west

She only has a private number that doesn't need to go on the internet 

Thankyou Wendy. I don't have aw account so will have to sort it. Thanks.

You should Mr Punt - You're missing out on a world of fun 

[Working Wendy]

I always thought that no business is conducted through this site, no matter who is sending the first correspondence

That is if it was wendy omellors was talking about, a bit of a random post to put on here from him.

I agree totally. I have previously told punters they need to message me on Adult work when they've made business enquiries with me on here, thought we were just being sociable in this case though

[Working Wendy]

Treating the members of this forum with such contempt is unwise

You were clearly touting. Here’s the context

As I said, I was referring to Mr Punt missing out on the fun of Adult work where many profiles are to be found - not just my own - ffs straws mun 

[Happyjose]

As I said, I was referring to Mr Punt missing out on the fun of Adult work where many profiles are to be found - not just my own - ffs straws mun 

 

[pantherblue]

Clutch my straw please Wendy xx

[daviemac]

He can write me a ropey negative if he wants, but it doesn't fulfil the criteria for a review

Well I say it does fulfil the criteria for a review.  A booking only has to be agreed for a review to be posted, confirmation of a booking is something entirely different.

If I were to send you a PM on here (which is well within the rules as it's private)  nd ask to make a booking on xxx day at xx time for xxx duration and you say yes then that is an agreed booking. The fact you, as part of your booking procedure, want confirmation nearer the time is irrelevant. If you fail to fulfil the booking, through no fault of the punter, as you agreed to the booking a review can be left.

[Working Wendy]

Well I say it does fulfil the criteria for a review.  A booking only has to be agreed for a review to be posted, confirmation of a booking is something entirely different.

If I were to send you a PM on here (which is well within the rules as it's private)  nd ask to make a booking on xxx day at xx time for xxx duration and you say yes then that is an agreed booking. The fact you, as part of your booking procedure, want confirmation nearer the time is irrelevant. If you fail to fulfil the booking, through no fault of the punter, as you agreed to the booking a review can be left.

But it was a yes on the condition that he confirms he still wants the appointment in this case the day before which he didn't do so it was assumed cancelled. I have to do things this way so I'm not turning work down unnecessarily. He made no attempt to message me on the day until after he'd left West Wales

[OMellors]

Not me in any shape or form - that's my entire point, however I believe it is my good self to whom Mellors refers.

A booking was discussed on Adultwork way in advance. As I do with everybody I requested he message me on the morning to confirm he wanted to keep his appointment. Mellors said he wouldn't have access so he would confirm the evening before, but the only messages I received were on UKP and being Mellors it wasn't even crystal clear if that was what he was doing. If he was trying to get me banned I didn't take the bait

Yes I waited patiently for him to confirm his booking with me on Adultwork which is where I do my business. It never came so it was assumed cancelled, the same I do with everybody

I'm only surprised Mellors thought arranging bookings on UKP is acceptable. It's not in the least 

Why would I want to get you banned 

The booking was arranged by email on AW

Message me in the morning to confirm your plans haven't changed and we'll take things from there - don't stress 


No reference to AW

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Wendy, I've left it as long as possible and quickly logged in, but I've received  no joining instructions ??

OM

[Working Wendy]

The booking was arranged by email on AW




OM

Some things are just common sense. Of course I was expecting you to message me to confirm to complete the booking on AW as that's the only site I work off, and only site I pay constant attention to during my working hours 

[OMellors]

Some things are just common sense. Of course I was expecting you to message me to confirm to complete the booking on AW as that's the only site I work off, and only site I pay constant attention to during my working hours 

I reject your allegation that it is common sense  nothing either on ukp or AW suggests that

In either case that is no excuse whatsoever for ignoring my communications



You could have easily asked me to confirm on aw. You wasted my entire afternoon

You have ducked why you thought I was intent on getting you banned.  It’s not my call & I don’t care either way

I suspect that you suspected another G P type review and wanted out, and to that end you would try and interpret distort the rules to your advantage.  Really  smart


You’re just another sad example of the problems sex workers generate when the butt in



Does anyone else, may I ask, think that confirming here is acceptable?


OM

[Ferguson86]

I think you’re in the wrong on this one mate. But I think we’ve all learned something too. I only ever feel like somethings confirmed if it’s via phone, personally. Message boards are good for info but I would never rely on a PM here as a definite.

[Mil 34]

I honestly thought that arranging any kind of booking on here was against the rules full stop.
Sps are not allowed to conduct business on here, are they.

[Ferguson86]

That’s what I thought to be honest. It’s a review site not a hook up site.

[Mil 34]

That’s what I thought to be honest. It’s a review site not a hook up site.

+1

[OMellors]

I agree that the rules are not really specific on this point.  I was unsure whether to post a review and I therefore  PM'ed a couple of trusted members at the time and the consensus was to regard it as a misunderstanding, and not to post a negative review.

However, following HJ's comments I was curious as to the general consensus about whether it was acceptable to use a PM to confirm, given that in this case the original booking was made about a week previously on AW

I did not mention any names.  It was a straightforward question.  Nonetheless Wendy decides to stand up  .  In her account a number of her points are factually wrong and she accuses me of being an  "agent provocateur" wishing to see her banned

Rule 19 does allow social meets to be organized via the PM system but not on the main noticeboards.   It implies that Private is private & that there is some degree of tolerance.  It can hardly be considered touting as this involves the promoting of business, which is somewhat difficult in a PM

However, there is no reason why, having received my PM,  that she could not have responded on AW even if it was only "Contact me on here, you blank"

2 Service Providers

This site allows service providers to be members, but there is zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

3 Touting
Zero tolerance for touting / advertising. You must disclose any link you have that may be seen as bias if you're not just a customer. Sharing info must be for the benefit of other punters and not promote the business of others.

19 Social meets
None will be sanctioned by the admin and not allowed to be organized on the forums. Use the PM facility instead to organize such meetups.


OM

[Ferguson86]

I think you need to move on. It’s starting to look a bit mad.
In future don’t use this site to arrange meetings.

[Happyjose]

I think you need to move on. It’s starting to look a bit mad.
In future don’t use this
 site to arrange meetings.

Read reply #25

Come back and let us know when you understand it

[Mil 34]

Read reply #25

Come back and let us know when you understand it

I missed that reply somehow, but as it’s from a moderator it carries a fair bit of clout
O Mellors hasn’t broken any rules and yes he should be entitled to leave a negative if he sees fit.
 

[Bonio]

I wouldn’t take a PM on here as a booking confirmation personally.

[OMellors]

Many thanks for your views, fellas 

I didn’t think I had broken any of the rules as the communication was by PM

Bit busy for the next day or two, but I’ll give it some thought

Can’t understand why on Earth Wendy would want to jump into the limelight when I didn’t mention her name 

OM