Hmmm....I going to have to conclude the we will agree to disagree. In my eyes we are not the female equivalent, we do not give anything up; the real equivalent of a woman escort is a young male in his youthful prime letting any woman that he would not normally sleep with have her way sexually with him for a fee. He would have to submit himself to her whims to an extent because she is paying...he would effectively be giving up a part of himself. Men by paying do not lose anything in the act of having sex with a WG but the money itself. How is that the same as letting a random person have their way with you for a small fee?
Do you not see the dynamics here? The man paying is coming from a temporary position of power in that short moment of time because he is paying her to do what he wants for that short period of time. Now to normal civilians perhaps they will look down on the man more as a predator etc due to the media has portraying women who sell sex more commonly as the exploited victim so that is understandable, they have not done the research to see the full picture.
The reason I mentioned white knight was not that a raw nerve was hit, you misunderstood. I meant it would be easier to encapsulate your previous point amounting to white knighting instead of me explaining why I disagree with your point, due to the fact you were ignoring the dynamics between a man choosing to pay who he sees as the same as a WG servicing any man who pays within reason and perceptions that brings onto women in the real world and not the western liberal nonsense that is pumped out in the media these days. Let's be honest, not many men would marry a WG knowingly, especially if they did not dabble in punting. There's is more likely a chance a woman will stay with a man that has punted though...Is that still equal to you?
I never said men will not be judged, if you go back to what I said, I did mention that men do get judged, but the men that judge those men that punt are naive. I acknowledged that the consequences for women being judged are worse than men. I'm not sure where you got delusional from?
Off course we are not rich men with power but my point of not being the equivalent of escorts still stands. Due to the sole fact that we do not surrender our bodies. The money we spend can just be made back. For those women that have slept with men that they probably physically abhor, they can't take that back, that man has had access to her in her prime and that is that. Is this still a level playing field to you?
Yes, punters and WGs operate in the same arena, but we are not playing the same game, I'm not sure how much clearer I can make my point I am trying to get across. By normal standards, both WGs and punters will be judged in a negative light, but the dynamics between punter and WG is not equal to allow them to be compared as equals. Once again, the way you initially got your point across completely ignores these dynamics which was why I said it would be easier to call you a white knight as your point was more in favor towards WGs than a balanced assessment between the relations of WG and punter; thus I took the time to type out my thoughts in full to prevent being called childish. Do you understand me now?
I don’t get your logic.
I can’t see what WG’s are losing by charging for sex.
The only difference between a WG & a promiscuous woman is the WG is smart enough to make a profit from it. Can’t see any form of “loss”.
I also don’t agree that more women would stay with a man who punted over men staying with a WG. Women aren’t is sexually liberated as men, they aren’t as forgiving or understanding, many women don’t see sex as men do. So I believe more women would have an issue with punting and punters than men would with WG’s.
Look at EAS cases on here and UKE, 90% of the time it’s the punter, not the WG. So if as you say men were less likely, so many of these fuckers wouldn’t be falling for WG’s after being given a good fuck would they.
What you’ve said about surrendering a body is laughable really. We as punters are doing the same thing when we fork out our hard earned to fuck a prostitute. We are no better or worse than an escort. We are casually fucking multiple women and paying for it. Society looks down on us as a whole.
What the fuck has “having access to a woman in her prime” got to do with anything? You sound like you don’t actually like punting or the women you pay to fuck. Why participate in something that you clearly think from the service providers side is poor?
Using the term “white knight” because I happen to agree with the fact that WG’s and punters are on a level playing field is bullshit. From my short time here that phrase is used by certain people who are unable to articulate and debate their point, rather than do that they resort to using “white knight” because some of us happen to have a view that differs.
You’re free to “think” how you want to think. But if you want to be open minded (you obviously are not) go talk about punting with your friends, exes, colleagues or on a swinger forum and see how different the view is of punters to WG’s. WG’s are more accepted than punters because people assume many are doing it out of desperation, drugs, poverty, coercion etc. Punters are looked upon as sleazy ugly fuckers who can’t get a fuck elsewhere.
That bullshit couldn’t be further from the truth, but it validates my point that punters are seen as lower for the most part. Even the #MeToo movement shows it. Women almost always come out smelling of roses even if they are guilty, and they can carry on their lives, and the man is castrated even without evidence.
You clearly want to believe delude yourself otherwise but facts are facts.
