Exceptional Emily

[James999]

I'm on about an escort agent.

Why do you need a Pimp ?

[James999]

I just want to be left alone by this man and have his lies taken off this site.

How do Admin know he is lying as opposed to you lying 

[foxyc]

Hello, Exceptional Emily here,

Reading this post has upset me deeply. I was given an email address to see if I could get this post removed, but I do not know if it is the right email to be writing to. I have copied the email I sent below in the hope that this will be removed as soon as possible. I would really appreciate if you could take the time to read it. And if anyone could help me with my problem it would also be appreciated.

Dear Sir/Madam,


I was made aware this afternoon that a post has been put up about me on your website. It is wholly untrue and would like it removed please.


The post is about me, Exceptional Emily. External Link/Members Only


The post was created by the agent I use to work for before I started my own independent profile.


He tried to book me under a false alias ‘hornytimesneeded’ calling himself Tim, on the Saturday that I set up my new profile in January, I was still working on it so told him I was unable to meet. He rearranged for the following Monday. I had an idea it was my previous agent at the time because he said he wouldn't be able to speak with me on the phone, he could only text. He has a distinguished voice and I would of recognised it. I had deleted the first booking request he made and he didn't put his phone number on the second (Monday) one. I mailed ‘Timmy’ on the Monday afternoon saying this and could he please send me his number. I got no reply and my message was left unread for a month. (It shows on Adultwork if your message has been read or not.) So I left it at that.


A couple of weeks ago I noticed that money was still coming out of my bank account, it was for a subscription for a website he had set up for his own escorting business. I had previously asked him nicely to stop this subscription going out of my bank account at the start of February, and he was apologetic and said yes. but he lied to me, and didn't and the money was still coming out. I contacted him again, saying I was angry about this and that he needed to stop it.


That evening I was sent another booking request from ‘hornytimesneeded’ and I sent a message saying my car was in the garage (which it genuinely was) and I wouldn't be able to accept the booking request. At this point he called me rude. I replied saying I knew it was him and that I had no intention of meeting him as an escort. He then proceeded to give me a barrel of abuse and blocked me.


After this he put up derogatory reviews about me on your website and another website, I have been unable to find the review on the other website and assume it has been deleted. The claims he makes on the review on your website are completely untrue and are a defamation of my character. This is why I am asking you to please remove it.


I am a good person, and he took advantage of me and abused my good nature. I do not wish to cause anyone trouble. I am just trying to earn extra money for my family and I do not deserve such awful slander. I have been upset about what he has written because they are complete lies.


Thank you for reading this and I hope you agree to remove this review.


Yours sincerely,


Emily Exceptional

Thank you if you have read this, I really don't deserve such vindictive behaviour.

Of course posting some screen shots of the AW email chain would help or hinder you case one way or the other. Dont know if that is allowed in this forum.  The Administrators can advise I guess.

[lovelybum]

The name of his agency on Adultwork is called 'Naughty secrets' and what a surprise, Lulu25, who he has written an extensive positive review about on here is one of his girls. She is a nice girl, I have met her and I'm not disputing she deserves a positive review, but I do not deserve this negative one.

His own website is External Link/Members Only , which is the one I am still paying for. The only thing I can be accused of is being an absolute mug for trusting this man. I hold my hands up to this and it has been a lesson well learned.

If this review isn't taken down then I can at least hope men will read this and see that I'm being honest. I'm fully aware that I would not be everyones cup of tea, I seriously lack a cleavage because I am naturally very slim, but I have a great bum and legs and most of all I am a genuinely nice girl.

This has all come about because I have stood up for myself and he didn't like it.

Do with this information what you will, my side of the story has been told.

Emily x

[mattylondon]

Do with this information what you will, my side of the story has been told.

You still haven't answered my question. How did you come to know of this thread and the forum?

[lovelybum]

A client. If you look James999 asked me this question and I answered it. I didn't feel the need to answer the same question twice.

[mattylondon]

A client. If you look James999 asked me this question and I answered it. I didn't feel the need to answer the same question twice.

My bad. I don't recognize the term 'client', where booking and paying for prossies is concerned, so missed it.

So he is a member of UK Punting then? 

[lovelybum]

I do not wish to participate in an argument with you. I have said all I need to. Have a nice rest of you day. 

[James999]

His own website is External Link/Members Only , which is the one I am still paying for.

Why pay for it if you don't want to?

All starting to sound a bit like a lovers tiff to me 

[mattylondon]

I do not wish to participate in an argument with you. I have said all I need to. Have a nice rest of you day. 

I'm not looking for an argument. I'm interested in knowing if it was a UK Punting member who informed you? A simple yes or not will do. 

[mattylondon]

Why pay for it if you don't want to?
All starting to sound a bit like a lovers tiff to me 

I agree. Some of what she's said may have a ring of truth about it. The problem is that with prossies, they lie so much that you can't help feeling that it's only part of the story. 

I'm not sure about the lovely bum? Her pictures don't look to be ones of a 23 year old? Perhaps they don't do her justice? 

[a10]

So she's accusing Timmy of being a pimp?

[mattylondon]

So she's accusing Timmy of being a pimp?

Basically yes. It will be interesting to read his response. Could be interesting.

[vorian]

Absolute bollocks Emily, you just have to read back through Tim's posts on here

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=22686.msg335278#msg335278

For example you say that one of Tim's girls Lulu25 was given a good review on here by him, Berks Bloke was the one to suggest Lulu25 before that Tim never mentioned her. SO Berks Bloke must be in on it as well.

If he was going to slander you why not go the full hog and say in his review that you gave a bad service, it merely said you were a TW in fact his review was quite tame.

I admit you are a clever one to come up with such a story or perhaps someone else did it for you. You fucked a punter around with a booking, you got caught out and found yourself on UKP, that you did not like as you know it will affect your business.

[lovelybum]

I have read this post and I do not profess to know whether Berks Bloke recommendation is a complete coincidence or it was set up. I cannot prove anything about this.

The first time 'Tim' tried to book me was to a hotel in Swindon. And as I said he never got back to me when I asked for his number, and it was in plenty of time for the booking. This was in January when He says in this said post he is looking for someone in Bristol.

Also if you look at Lulu25 feedback, (which has been changed back to Lori funnily enough today) 'hornytimesneeded' feedback, which is 'Tim' is left on 24/01/2014. On the said post he says he saw her on the 20/01/2014. This feedback says he has seen her twice.

So he has seen her twice within 4 days? Could happen I guess.

As I have said, the texting part of 'Tims' claim is absolutely untrue. It was all done on Adultwork. And I always contacted him well before the meeting time.

What I have written is the absolute truth, it would take a really good imagination to just come with it!

Mark or 'Tim' is a clever man, I wont deny it, he fooled me for a long time.

Like I've said, people can read all this and make their own minds up.

I got told about this post and had a look, and as I said, completely upset that someone who I trusted could write such rubbish about me.

Think what you like, I know I am innocent.

[vorian]

I have read this post and I do not profess to know whether Berks Bloke recommendation is a complete coincidence or it was set up. I cannot prove anything about this.

The first time 'Tim' tried to book me was to a hotel in Swindon. And as I said he never got back to me when I asked for his number, and it was in plenty of time for the booking. This was in January when He says in this said post he is looking for someone in Bristol.

Also if you look at Lulu25 feedback, (which has been changed back to Lori funnily enough today) 'hornytimesneeded' feedback, which is 'Tim' is left on 24/01/2014. On the said post he says he saw her on the 20/01/2014. This feedback says he has seen her twice.

So he has seen her twice within 4 days? Could happen I guess.

As I have said, the texting part of 'Tims' claim is absolutely untrue. It was all done on Adultwork. And I always contacted him well before the meeting time.

What I have written is the absolute truth, it would take a really good imagination to just come with it!

Mark or 'Tim' is a clever man, I wont deny it, he fooled me for a long time.

Like I've said, people can read all this and make their own minds up.

I got told about this post and had a look, and as I said, completely upset that someone who I trusted could write such rubbish about me.

Think what you like, I know I am innocent.

In response to your question about Tim booking Lulu25 twice he did indeed as discussed in his posts, both his reviews for Lulu25 are under the same review thread. May I suggest you look at all Tim's post's from start to finish and the threads his was involved with. Does he come across as a newbie punter asking for advice or as a hardened agency owner with a grudge to settle and a bunch of girls to tout.

You might have got away with this if you had chosen a better scapegoat as your story has enough truth to it to be semi convincing. Again Tim's review of you was not terrible it accused you of being a TW,  so why would he go to so much trouble to set himself up a persona,  just to accuse you of being that. Why not attack you more given the effort it took to set up.

[James999]

I got told about this post

Probably by some bitter pro$$ie trying to stir shit, it seems to have backfired again though, as a pretty basic negative that would likely have got forgotten has received increased attention 

[lovelybum]

I cannot see where it says he has seen her twice?

I wrote this to tell the truth and it's what I have done.

My upset has passed, and all I can do now is hope people will see through this crap.

[mattylondon]

Think what you like, I know I am innocent.

Who gives a shit?

Prossies like you come and go. The drill is the same. A prossie receives a negative review. Some fluffy snitch from UKP or shit stirring prossie alerts the prossie concerned. She then 'stumbles' upon this forum and tries the emotional blackmail with admin. When this fails, she posts just like you. I'm happy that you decided to post. It's a tacit recognition of the forum's influence. Otherwise, you wouldn't bother. 

Do you really think that this tactic is going to work? I re-read his review and it was lame. All he essentially accused you of was wasting his time, for fuck's sake. And then you talk about defamation of character and all the other drama queen bollocks. Defamation? I can see that one standing up in court! Best make sure your taxes are in order too. 

[vorian]

I cannot see where it says he has seen her twice?

I wrote this to tell the truth and it's what I have done.

My upset has passed, and all I can do now is hope people will see through this crap.

Here on this thread there are two separate reviews for Lulu25 made within a few days of each other.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=22973.0

I say again,  Emily read Tim's posts,  do they honestly sound like the posts of a pimp. Whoever advised you to come up with this story,  advised you badly.

[lovelybum]

I found it. Apologies.

I know I am telling the truth, and what 'Tim' wrote is not.

You make a very good case against me vorian, I can only salute you for that. Even though you are sticking up for a man that is manipulative and has pulled the wool over your eyes.

[James999]

Even though you are sticking up for a man that is manipulative and has pulled the wool over your eyes.

So YOU say, and you freely admit you pay him money every month 

[vorian]

I found it. Apologies.

I know I am telling the truth, and what 'Tim' wrote is not.

You make a very good case against me vorian, I can only salute you for that. Even though you are sticking up for a man that is manipulative and has pulled the wool over your eyes.

OK I will give you a get out here, is there any possibility that you have got this agency guy and Tim somehow mixed up and they are different people that would make more sense.  That would however mean that Tim's original review of you was correct. 

[a10]

You know the best way to "solve" this "problem"?

Next time you get booked, turn up on time, or communicate properly if you're running late.

Do this several times for your next few bookings (or better yet, every booking from now on!)

Therefore, when you're discussed in the future people will say "Oh yeah, Emily, good SP and reliable. Bit of weird stuff about her in the early days, but she's tip top now."

Or, fuck about with bullshit messages and get an even worse reputation.

[lovelybum]

I actually wrote this because it genuinely did upset me.

He is not your stereotypical hardened pimp, he is a well educated, well spoken and a highly intelligent man. And uses this to take advantage of girls like me.

I am getting nowhere with the honest truth here, so this is my last message.

I will be leaving my note on my profile so people can still read this. I still protest my innocence and people can only judge for themselves.

[vorian]

You know the best way to "solve" this "problem"?

Next time you get booked, turn up on time, or communicate properly if you're running late.

Do this several times for your next few bookings (or better yet, every booking from now on!)

Therefore, when you're discussed in the future people will say "Oh yeah, Emily, good SP and reliable. Bit of weird stuff about her in the early days, but she's tip top now."

Or, fuck about with bullshit messages and get an even worse reputation.

Very well put A10,  she states I make a strong case against her,  really was not that hard just took a bit of reading and common sense.

[lovelybum]

So YOU say, and you freely admit you pay him money every month 

I openly put my hands up to being a complete mug by trusting this man

[vorian]

I openly put my hands up to being a complete mug by trusting this man

As I said are you sure, this agent and Tim are the same person,  this is your chance to say maybe not, you were mistaken and Tim's review of you was correct in the first place.

[vorian]

I openly put my hands up to being a complete mug by trusting this man

How did you meet him

[Ali Katt]

You can view "Tim's" websites here:
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only

It's a case of who are you going to believe even if a 25 year old prossie is telling the truth, who would you believe? And more importantly why should anyone care anymore?

[vorian]

You can view "Tim's" websites here:
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only

It's a case of who are you going to believe even if a 25 year old prossie is telling the truth, who would you believe? And more importantly why should anyone care anymore?

I see your point AK, for me it is principle if the available evidence shows a prossie attacking a UKP member just to get a bad review removed which on the balance of probability is the case here in my opinion. Then it should be pointed out, otherwise some punters may be put off doing honest reviews in the first place. If one gets away with it then many more might think a complicated story and a bit of charm will get them off the hook. Not all prossies are stupid afterall.

[Ali Katt]

I see your point AK, for me it is principle if the available evidence shows a prossie attacking a UKP member just to get a bad review removed which on the balance of probability is the case here in my opinion. Then it should be pointed out, otherwise some punters may be put off doing honest reviews in the first place. If one gets away with it then many more might think a complicated story and a bit of charm will get them off the hook. Not all prossies are stupid afterall.

TBH my first thoughts were a prossie is unlikely to attack a pimp, unless she left him. She claims to be a part of his agency, but isn't on the website from what I could tell. Sounds like a habitual liar to me.

[touch.and.go]

I don't confess to understand what is going on here - but surely UKP is for punters and not agents/pimps and to post without making your position VERY clear is inappropriate.

[vorian]

TBH my first thoughts were a prossie is unlikely to attack a pimp, unless she left him. She claims to be a part of his agency, but isn't on the website from what I could tell. Sounds like a habitual liar to me.

I think it is interesting that on her AW profile she has asked people to come to UKP and this thread. As she has defended herself and wants people to see that. I must say I don't think it has worked out as she planned, I would be very surprised if that part of her profile is not soon deleted. I will keep a close eye on it.

You make a very good case against me vorian, I can only salute you for that. Even though you are sticking up for a man that is manipulative and has pulled the wool over your eyes.

 As earlier posted, I have asked her look at Tim's posts and does it look like he is a clever agency owner, who has created an online persona, including roping in another member to recommend one of his girls. All so he can post that Emily is a TW. Or is he a genuine punter who has posted a negative review as he was treated badly and rudely by a WG.

I would like Emily to offer further evidence, I suspect that she will not post again, remove the mention of UKP from her profile and play the ParisB defence of a "Wall of silence" hoping it will all go away. I have given Emily a get out option but that would mean admitting the review was fair in the first place.

[lovelybum]

I came on here this morning to put up a screenshot of the only message I didn't delete from our correspondence.

It was the one where I said I was unavailable due to my car being in the garage, and if he had mailed me before sending a booking request I could have told him this.

But then I thought why bother, you're just going to find a different angle to question my integrity and I am doing as a10 said and just getting on with it. No point crying over spilt milk, and as much as this did upset me I just have to take this rubbish on the chin.

I will not be taking down my notes on my profile because I have nothing to hide and what I have said is the truth. Watch me all you like, nothing is changing.

Good day to you all gentlemen, I am not participating in this any longer.

[Qwerty]

I have seen Emily's profile before on the NaughtySecrets group and devinesirens website, so that part of it checks out.

Can't comment on anything else.

[vorian]

I have seen Emily's profile before on the NaughtySecrets group and devinesirens website, so that part of it checks out.

Can't comment on anything else.

I don't think that part was in doubt to me, but it proves nothing, I could randomly find a negative review of a girl who is part of a group and post that the reviewer is a pimp with a grudge does it happen of course. However UKP members have a good track record of spotting these people. Read Tim's posts do they sound like a pimp with a grudge against one girl,  to me no.

[Johny Stone]

my question is: where is tim?

[vorian]

my question is: where is tim?

Looking back at his posts he is an intermittent active member, I believe he only logs in when his wife is away for whatever reason.

[Qwerty]

I was just correcting what Ali Katt had said

She claims to be a part of his agency, but isn't on the website from what I could tell. Sounds like a habitual liar to me.

[vorian]

I was just correcting what Ali Katt had said

I saw the name Emily as well on the website, it seems the details under the name had been deleted. 

[Ali Katt]

I saw the name Emily as well on the website, it seems the details under the name had been deleted. 

I stand corrected. I thought the girl in question was attacking an agency or pimp she was currently working for, which wouldn't be a good move. I didn't realise she had left.

[vorian]

I stand corrected. I thought the girl in question was attacking an agency or pimp she was currently working for, which wouldn't be a good move. I didn't realise she had left.

I think she was saying she asked to leave the agency but Tim kept taking money from her bank account after he said he would not, this is why he wrote the bad review of her on UKP, as revenge for asking to leave his agency. I would have thought she would just cancel the standing order or direct debit from her account. Seems like the more sensible option, unless he had some sort of secret access to her account including passwords. 

[Qwerty]

You can cancel standing orders, but the payee has to cancel a Direct Debit

But I think you have to be accredited in some way to be able to run a DD scheme, as otherwise it's an open invitation for the unscrupulous to help themselves from your bank account (e.g. electricity companies) - shouldn't think an SP 'manager' would qualify :-)

[vorian]

You can cancel standing orders, but the payee has to cancel a Direct Debit

But I think you have to be accredited in some way to be able to run a DD scheme, as otherwise it's an open invitation for the unscrupulous to help themselves from your bank account (e.g. electricity companies) - shouldn't think an SP 'manager' would qualify :-)

True, I don't think anyone can just set up a DD but if you inform the bank they are able to block it or at least they should.

[vorian]

I see Emily logged on today at 2.47pm,  seems she is playing the ParisB defence after all.

[Mr Kent (Not AW)]

Where has "Tim" gone to defend himself ?

[vorian]

Where has "Tim" gone to defend himself ?

Looking back at his posts he is an intermittent active member, I believe he only logs in when his wife is away for whatever reason.

I recall about a two/three week gap between his posts.

[Mr Kent (Not AW)]

Interesting case this, she is an extremely articulate lady, her written word is exceptional, her feed back on Adultwork is also good, some of her clients have a good track record so are not made up and tend to be very honest, we have met similar ladies over the years. Why would she go to so much trouble explaining herself if it were all a lie?

I'm sorry Vorian, on this one I think she may be totally genuine. I would like to hear his side of the story.............but as it stands, from the evidence as I see it, I believe Emily, I also hasten to add I have never met or spoken to either party.

[mattylondon]

Interesting case this, she is an extremely articulate lady, her written word is exceptional, her feed back on Adultwork is also good, some of her clients have a good track record so are not made up and tend to be very honest, we have met similar ladies over the years. Why would she go to so much trouble explaining herself if it were all a lie?

I'm sorry Vorian, on this one I think she may be totally genuine. I would like to hear his side of the story.............but as it stands, from the evidence as I see it, I believe Emily, I also hasten to add I have never met or spoken to either party.

As I've posted previously, there's a ring of truth about what she's said. The problem is that I've also been around long enough to wonder if it's the full story? Of course we'll only know when the OP reads this and responds.

And in all honesty, to create such a fuss about being called a time waster is completely over the top, in my opinion. She has plenty of good feedback and is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I do not believe that somebody would be so upset over just that. No way. It appears to be more like an attempt embarrass and 'settle scores' with this OP, if true. Of course, if it's proven that he really is a pimp of some kind, then he'll have a case to answer because that should've been declared. We really need to see his side of the story.