For everyone here who takes these girls on M&G's first, i.e. dinner, drinks or coffee, do you discuss the prospect of a future sexual meet initially? Don't you find it a risk of wasting your time if the M&G goes nowhere i.e. she never wanted anything sexual in the first place?
My strategy has always been suggesting a hotel room meet, then scaling back to a simple coffee first if she isn't comfortable yet. Finding for some girls who are DTF & no-BS its great for cutting to the chase, but others it gives off an escort-customer vibe and kills the mood a bit on their end.
Yes, it is worth establishing if she is going to 'put out' because as you say it is a waste of time and money but needs to be phrased carefully so you're not frightening her off.
It's up to you, of course, and everyone's different but suggesting a hotel meet straight away will put some girls off because it seems like all you are interested is is sex and ONS, and not them as a person. So therefore you will be more likely to attract the pro types and less likely to attract the girl next door types.
Doing a M&G or date first in my eyes makes SA very little different from Tinder or any other dating site.
... and less like AW. Exactly. But you will get a far better response than Tinder.
Even worse some of the brain-dead girls on SA think PPM means I'm going to pay just to watch them sip a cup of coffee
Yep and we tell them we don't pay for M&Gs, as has been said countless times on these threads. Putting something on your profile about not looking for platonic arrangements or not providing an allowance for platonic dating will put a lot of these girls off in the first place.
The idea and appeal of SA in my eyes was always for busy professional men to pay a fee to 'cut to the chase' so to speak and not have to worry about spending hours of time wining & dining a girl just to get in her pants.
No, that's the idea and appeal of AW. The appeal of SA is having cutting to the chase (so advantage over dating apps) WHILE having a better experience with girls, both sexually and socially, than via AW.
Sort of like escorting with somewhat of a sense of exclusivity to the girls. IMO.
Different point, and sense of exclusivity for whom? Probably for neither SB or SD if it's ppm, monthly allowance possibly and more likely, though some will have other arrangements even then.
Reading your comments, I think you would be best suited to sticking to punting on AW, tbh.