Then move onto to the next one, it's surprising how many will come back to you and agree a lower price, think with the big brain, not the little one
5 of the last 6 girls I’ve seen have been freebies - although those evenings are not cheap, they usually involve a nice meal, drinks and a decent hotel. Albeit I usually charge the hotel on expenses.
Can you please teach us your charming methods?Do you charm them during messaging or pre-meets?
There is no such thing as a "freebie". If you are having to splash out for meals and drinks then how is that free? Most likely they will be other requirements also that you would end up paying for.
Miaow to that! You will undoubtedly have equal if not more experience than I. I try my best to be polite but direct, i don’t overly haggle, photos are recent and I keep myself in good shape for mid 40’s. Perhaps that helps my cause in negotiations. We all have different ways on seeking.
External Link/Members OnlyWon't do meet & greet without "fpm" (forward payment assuming). Heavily photoshopped pictures, searched around forums for name and profile, can't see any previous info, anyone else met?
Def escort of used to be...External Link/Members OnlyI actually saw her as an escort good few years ago. HOT!
Cool. I just thought perhaps you had some kind of Jedi trick.
Haha definitely not! Was just expressing a bit of concern that more and more folks are talking about spending large amounts on a ppm which could potentially inflate the general price of the market especially amongst the pro Sbs. As I said before the situation with the Diva girls on the London thread is worrying - girls that were previously £200 re now £300-£400 sometimes more, and increasing amounts of UKP members seem happy to pay this.I accept that the UKP members who on seeking are only a small percentage of the UK base, but it would suck if the prices rise similarly.
I agree that the amount they are asking is now ridiculous. Previously I was happy paying anything between 200-300. But now I'm noticing more and more asking for higher amounts and lately I just think it's not worth it and I rather just settle for a massage with a happy ending for a far cheaper rate than paying ridiculous amounts.
External Link/Members OnlyContacted me out of the blue. Good bit of banter about how she was shortly escaping prison australia to move to London. Shortly after moving to whatsapp she asks me if I can buy something online for her nephew, of course she'll pay me back when we meet. Very scam vibes. When I questioned things a bit she went very defensive and then went radio silent.
I agree with this. My first two years were a pretty easy and breezy affair. I rarely had to spend much time searching for SBs and would be regularly inundated with messages. Sure there were plenty of Sbs asking for allowances straight off the bat, and others asking for £400 PPM - but equally there were loads who were happy to accept £200-£250.Seems that Covid has changed many aspects of life, including punting and Seeking. I have to put in more of a shift to secure an arrangement, getting my profile seen by enough women seems to be the challenge, I have to message much more and have even started buying 5 boosts here and there. This has really swelled the interest and often wake up in the morning with far more messages than I would without it. Its not perfect but I still seem to secure arrangements in that £200-£300 sweet spot.
Its funny that up until recently I've barely if ever heard punters on this thread saying they pay £500 plus to meet a girl. There's been a similar trend appearing on the London review board where punters are splashing out equally eye watering sums for an hours sex with a variety of middling/jaded Russian escorts.I'll repeat I've been on seeking for 4 years and my general rule for London ppm is £200-£300. £250 is my stock PPM offer and it tends to have a pretty good success rate. If there's someone I really really want to fuck I compromise at £300 but I have never really had to go above this. Offering more is unnecessary and if one has a general grasp of manners and is able to approach the situation with a bit of charm then its possible to make arrangements that work well for both the SD and SB.
I agree it is too much to pay, especially if the sex is just mediocre. The trouble with negotiating that I have found is that a lot of the girls will not come down from their original figure which makes negotiation impossible.
External Link/Members OnlyBrazilian, doesnt speak english, she must be escort, as she messaged like this:"baby, this week I'm in a simple flat here in Bayeswater. I think 250£ and you stay here with me 1 hour. what do you think?"Does anyone know her AW profile?
I remember getting that message - think she contacted me which given my minimal profile is never a sign of a discerning woman
Anyone got any low down on this one please? External Link/Members Only
She contacted me yesterday I wouldn’t bother she wants to do online first and build trust etc before meeting
Do you have a visible profile photo?
Yes. I'm single, not concerned with being spotted(very unlikely). I have 3 photos on my public which give a good representation of what I look like. A couple of torso shots in private.
If you have a good and shaped physique, then I would turn it around.... Make torso pictures public, and face private. Give the babe a chance to get curious... Let her take the bait. Do not give it away too soon, they can simply browse it over......
External Link/Members OnlyChicMermaid.Quite forward on messaging, wants to meet straight away then starts talking about her friend joining in.Based in Kent
Be careful you could be being set up to be robbed, always be wary when they want a friend to join in, but then again it could be nothing apart from a dirty threesome why not have a meet and greet with them both first and if no bells start ringing fill your boots
A meet and greet won't stop them robbing him later.
In my experience those who will not negotiate at all either (a) don’t actually fancy you or the idea of fucking you or (b) are at the more pro end of the spectrum and have a fixed price in their heads which they stick to. Personally I’m not into the idea of either type so would swiftly move on.
I think this one could put you in your place External Link/Members Only
Getting M&G's cancelled because other people are paying for them! Lots of desperate people on seeking by the sounds of it. This probably explains the upwards pressure on ppm's and the general nuttiness.
Who ever is paying for M&G please stop it! I got asked for £250 (at the last minute) before a coffee date last week. I declined!
Unfortunately, I would fall under category (a). That's the whole point of why I pay for sex.
So joined with premium membership last week. Had a fit young thing wanting to meet but asked for cash for nails in advance so that didn't go anywhere.A couple who are blatantly escorts so they didn't work out. Once made clear she was good at deep throating, rimming and swallows and could host me!!Another who was willing to meet me whenever but would not video call me as she was worried her parents may find out as she lives with them!!There is one girl who I had a nice WhatsApp chat and she is happy to meet for free for a coffee so we can scope each other out. She's not a young fit hottie but is fairly attractive nevertheless. May see her in the next few days.There are 3 other young fit girls who I have messaged and they have replied to say that they would want to meet initially before we could decide on a set up. So trying to see them in the next few days too. None of the girls above have received a search hit on this site. Will update and post up their links once I see them for an initial meet. I did post up some upper body photos as I am in very good shape with abs etc and I think that helps but of course cant be sure.
FunChickie on SA, blocked her before copying her profile link (doh). Location shows UK but her profile states London, then tells me she's actually in Birmingham and gives me a WhatsApp using a +1 (215) number! Too many inconsistencies for me so avoiding.
This girl is willing to meet at her place and offers rimming and swallowing which she mentioned on her 3rd message!
From just £36 per year