Seeking.com (London)

[Lone-punter]

Fairly obvious question but is she happy for you to pay on your app or does she want the fare sending to her first? The answer to that question answers your question 😎

Book Uber/Taxi to collect/drop her, not asking for fare to be sent upfront

[Steve2]

Book Uber/Taxi to collect/drop her, not asking for fare to be sent upfront

Go for it LP 

[jamiekinkxxx]

Pay for a Snapchat - what is this onlyfans?

Agree 100% never paid for contact via whatsapp, snapchat (not that I have it) or KIK etc. I would move on 

[Jim7519]

Fwiw I actually am not finding it particularly dry atm in terms of generating leads/collecting numbers. Reckon I had a leaner time of it at the back end of 2020. There seem to be plenty of girls on there just now, notwithstanding that nobody is actually allowed to meet atm.

Hundreds are hoping to be paid an allowance today on the promise of meeting later, however. Not too hard to manage this though, decent advice given above. I think half of them asking know it's unrealistic.

Just got a British girl asking me for £800 per meeting .... She called herself "upper class " but looks like a typical Essex girl looking for a pay pig ... Just ridiculous ..

[HomerC]

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In conversation with this Middle Eastern SB who is okay to meet even in the lockdown conditions, provided you afford Uber/Taxi for her both ways. Nice comms, open to EVERYTHING and seems quite adventurous. Anyone here has the pleasure (or displeasure) of seeing her? Any intel is appreciated. 

Don't send her an uber because it will send her your real name. Instead, offer to reimburse her the cash equivalent when you see her in person.

[HomerC]

I have joined. Hoping to find a girl for a support bubble. Easy to meet with the restrictions for me. I live alone and if the girl does a bonus.

Few ladys want me to pay them for a mobile number or snapchat. Got one whatsapp number

Wow what a scam. No money before intimacy, ever. Ever.

[HomerC]

 the official Seeking account said they accidentally sent out a mass email to everyone saying their last payment failed. Apparently everyone got this - you can ignore it.

[Azuredised]

In conversation with this Middle Eastern SB who is okay to meet even in the lockdown conditions, provided you afford Uber/Taxi for her both ways. Nice comms, open to EVERYTHING and seems quite adventurous. Anyone here has the pleasure (or displeasure) of seeing her? Any intel is appreciated. 

I am sure this has been asked before here ... how do you take the conversation towards checking what the sb is open to or not. I normally leave the conversation at checking the ppm and intimacy is involved. But never get around to asking any further details...

My pointers would be useful 🙂

[jamiekinkxxx]

I am sure this has been asked before here ... how do you take the conversation towards checking what the sb is open to or not. I normally leave the conversation at checking the ppm and intimacy is involved. But never get around to asking any further details...

My pointers would be useful 🙂

Once I have moved to whatsapp, agreed a fee that works for both of us then I generally move to more intimate conversations about like dislikes in/out the bedroom

[poulpe76]

I am sure this has been asked before here ... how do you take the conversation towards checking what the sb is open to or not. I normally leave the conversation at checking the ppm and intimacy is involved. But never get around to asking any further details...

My pointers would be useful 🙂

Rather than asking them what's on the menu, I ask them what they're into, every time I've asked that to a girl that I ended up meeting, they've asked me what I'm into afterwards, and then told me what they're OK with out of that.

[Lone-punter]

I am sure this has been asked before here ... how do you take the conversation towards checking what the sb is open to or not. I normally leave the conversation at checking the ppm and intimacy is involved. But never get around to asking any further details...

My pointers would be useful 🙂

It varies ... some SBs don't like discussing the substantive part of the meet before the actual meet takes place while some might ask what would you like in intimacy to know if you have any 'weird' expectations/fantasies. So, it depends on how open and experienced an SB is.

By experience I do not necessarily mean the number of arrangements an SB has. The time spent on SA and engagement/conversation with SDs also become part of their experience where they are asked all sorts of questions by SDs of different sexual persuasions. On the question of intimacy, most of them would spontaneously say without being asked 'no anal and only protected sex', which implies they are frequently asked about these acts.

Conversation is a two-way process and its subject matter in SD-SB scenario depends on how safe the environment is. I usually let the potential SB to lead the conversation about intimacy. If she is open to discuss details, I would reciprocate. If she is shy, her agreeing to intimacy is sufficient for me to proceed.

[Lone-punter]

Don't send her an uber because it will send her your real name. Instead, offer to reimburse her the cash equivalent when you see her in person.

You're right to warn HC ... but I always instruct the Uber driver to please pick my friend Ms XYZ on my behalf with an understanding that then he would call her name rather than mine while taking her in his cab. This has worked most of the times. In one instance however the driver was intrusively chatty. He asked the SB is Mr LP your boss or friend? 

Yes, there are chances of the breach of privacy/identity but convincing an SB for reimbursement later on is equally difficult if she has been flaked out previously by some charlatan.

[Cunning Punt]

If she is shy, her agreeing to intimacy is sufficient for me to proceed.

Perhaps you've been lucky but I think not broaching the subject and clarifying likes/dislikes is risking spending a lot of money on a poor experience. As mentioned, there are ways of subtly bringing up the subject.
There is no guarantee, of course, that they will deliver. and a couple of girls I've met have said in advance they are fine with FK but come the meet they've refused to do it, and it's been poor.  In my experience, it doesn't matter if it's a WG or SB, whether a girl does FK or not is usually symptomatic of her whole attitude and whether she feels a connection.
Going through a sort of Q&A does reduce the chances of a shit time, and I take more note now of the content/tone of their responses, not just them apparently agreeing to something.

[Cunning Punt]

You're right to warn HC ... but I always instruct the Uber driver to please pick my friend Ms XYZ on my behalf with an understanding that then he would call her name rather than mine while taking her in his cab. This has worked most of the times. In one instance however the driver was intrusively chatty. He asked the SB is Mr LP your boss or friend? 

Yes, there are chances of the breach of privacy/identity but convincing an SB for reimbursement later on is equally difficult if she has been flaked out previously by some charlatan.

Depends on the situation and the amount.

Not booked a taxi for a girl myself - I have similar privacy concerns and am too much of a technophobe.

Most girls I've met are happy for me to reimburse them at the meet, though often I've already met them for a M&G somewhere near them so no cost to them and trust has been established. I may then choose to give them a tenner for their travel to a future intimate meet there and then.

Alternatively, if I trust her and it's not a large amount, I am happy to pay her money for travel via PayPal - using my dummy account with fake name and address plus secondary email of course.

[Link7]

Just got a British girl asking me for £800 per meeting .... She called herself "upper class " but looks like a typical Essex girl looking for a pay pig ... Just ridiculous ..

  hope she didn't waste too much of your time mate. Unless they look like Emily Ratajkowksi, I genuinely query whether girls quoting these sums are really even serious about meets, or just on there for boredom/on the off chance they discover money growing on a tree.

It's still pretty rare I've been quoted anything like that (although, for first time, someone did quote me £3k/m the other day). Don't know if I've been lucky or what. One thing I don't really do, which I think is against the general consensus on here (?), is the scatter gun, cut and paste same message to 500 girls. I do tend to pick and choose, and then try to chat/run "game" for a little bit - not just steam in asking for WhatsApp within 3 messages, as some have advised. I just found a huge number of them said no when I initially tried that, and the ones who didn't seemed like they didn't give a flying fuck who I was and were just handing their number out like confetti (ie, working girls).

Downside to doing it the way I do, ofc, is the huge time commitment.

[stampjones]

Thanks for the replies, chaps. I think I might pursue this, as suggested, a bit later down the line.  One question - I tried a dodgy blurred profile picture which got rejected but of course noticed that if you pay, you don't need one. Has a lack of a picture ever been a problem for you guys that have succeeded?

Ive mostly had no photo. If a girl asks I say I’ll share on whatsapp but Ive met girls that never asked and first saw me IRL.
I recently put up a non-identifyable photo and as far as I can tell it made no significant difference to how things went. I was actually quite surprised as I always assumed I lost a few because of the lack of one. The main thing is to contact a decent number of girls and get them onto whatsapp rather than focus on one or two. If you take the latter approach Id say you’re likely to be more sensitive to how you have to run your profile. I spend virtually no time on mine

[mrflash]

  hope she didn't waste too much of your time mate. Unless they look like Emily Ratajkowksi, I genuinely query whether girls quoting these sums are really even serious about meets, or just on there for boredom/on the off chance they discover money growing on a tree.

It's still pretty rare I've been quoted anything like that (although, for first time, someone did quote me £3k/m the other day). Don't know if I've been lucky or what. One thing I don't really do, which I think is against the general consensus on here (?), is the scatter gun, cut and paste same message to 500 girls. I do tend to pick and choose, and then try to chat/run "game" for a little bit - not just steam in asking for WhatsApp within 3 messages, as some have advised. I just found a huge number of them said no when I initially tried that, and the ones who didn't seemed like they didn't give a flying fuck who I was and were just handing their number out like confetti (ie, working girls).

Downside to doing it the way I do, ofc, is the huge time commitment.

I do it your way. I don't play numbers game. I usually avoid the profiles with words like "luxury lifestyle" or anything similar. I properly write a message based on their profile description. I also have a long chat before going to WhatsApp. In fact, I even talk ppm prices on SA before getting to WhatsApp. Never got banned for that. My whatsapp number is only for girls I share a good connection with and quote a reasonable ppm.

I also have my face picture and an approximation of what I earn per year on my profile. I know it's risky for many guys. I personally don't have any issues with it. But it helps as girls who have higher demands or don't like my looks just don't respond. With all this, the highest ppm quote I got was 500 which is fair enough as the maximum ppm I pay is 300.

On time commitment, it saves a lot of time in meets. I never had a failed meet while using this approach.

[Azuredised]

You're right to warn HC ... but I always instruct the Uber driver to please pick my friend Ms XYZ on my behalf with an understanding that then he would call her name rather than mine while taking her in his cab. This has worked most of the times. In one instance however the driver was intrusively chatty. He asked the SB is Mr LP your boss or friend? 

Yes, there are chances of the breach of privacy/identity but convincing an SB for reimbursement later on is equally difficult if she has been flaked out previously by some charlatan.

I had a similar experience, so now I tend to change the name in Uber settings, for such journeys..

[massage-freak]

Anyone contacted this lady. Any experiences?

Profile name says Graec

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[Azuredised]

It varies ... some SBs don't like discussing the substantive part of the meet before the actual meet takes place while some might ask what would you like in intimacy to know if you have any 'weird' expectations/fantasies. So, it depends on how open and experienced an SB is.

By experience I do not necessarily mean the number of arrangements an SB has. The time spent on SA and engagement/conversation with SDs also become part of their experience where they are asked all sorts of questions by SDs of different sexual persuasions. On the question of intimacy, most of them would spontaneously say without being asked 'no anal and only protected sex', which implies they are frequently asked about these acts.

Conversation is a two-way process and its subject matter in SD-SB scenario depends on how safe the environment is. I usually let the potential SB to lead the conversation about intimacy. If she is open to discuss details, I would reciprocate. If she is shy, her agreeing to intimacy is sufficient for me to proceed.

Thanks 👍
Agree.

[andrew.michael]

Anyone contacted this lady. Any experiences?

Profile name says Graec

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she contacted me a couple of weeks ago saying that she’s here to learn english.

it’s definitely a weird profile not sure what their intentions are. if i were to guess it’s a long con elaborate scam.

[Payyourwaymate]

Not on SA but had a couple quick questions. Are there East African girls on there and are they easy to access or are they rare like on AW?

[CroPunter]

Just got a British girl asking me for £800 per meeting .... She called herself "upper class " but looks like a typical Essex girl looking for a pay pig ... Just ridiculous ..

This is pure  for that money you can find so many girls on AW for an overnight 

[mrflash]

Not on SA but had a couple quick questions. Are there East African girls on there and are they easy to access or are they rare like on AW?

How does anyone find a girl is East African? SA profiles only have ethnicity. They don't have nationality.

[Lone-punter]

I had a similar experience, so now I tend to change the name in Uber settings, for such journeys..

I did not know we can change our names so often in Uber ... I will give it a try next time 

[NightKid]

This is pure  for that money you can find so many girls on AW for an overnight 

And for about a quarter that, you can find girls on SA who'd be willing to accept it too 

[Cunning Punt]

n fact, I even talk ppm prices on SA before getting to WhatsApp. Never got banned for that.

You may have got away with it and you continue to get away with it, but several SDs have reported on UKP of being banned, so many of us no longer discuss finance on SA.

[andrew.michael]

And for about a quarter that, you can find girls on SA who'd be willing to accept it too 

girls outside london? definitely (for me anyway)

[poulpe76]

girls outside london? definitely (for me anyway)

I've had a £200 overnight in London.

[andrew.michael]

I've had a £200 overnight in London.

lucky bastard, i only seem to find ones asking for £500

[NightKid]

girls outside london? definitely (for me anyway)

I've had a £200 overnight in London.

What he said 

[Cunning Punt]

lucky bastard, i only seem to find ones asking for £500

Are you seeking models?! 

[poulpe76]

lucky bastard, i only seem to find ones asking for £500

I've had 2 arrangements and the girls mostly didn't mind if they didn't have anything to do early in the morning the next day.

[mrflash]

You may have got away with it and you continue to get away with it, but several SDs have reported on UKP of being banned, so many of us no longer discuss finance on SA.

Interesting probably SA doesn't proactively search for such profiles and does it only if someone reports us.

[Payyourwaymate]

How does anyone find a girl is East African? SA profiles only have ethnicity. They don't have nationality.

I have no idea, that's why I was asking. I meant british black girls that were East African in ethinicity as in like their parents are originally from East Africa. Thanks for the response. Looks like I'll have to find out for myself at a later point in time.

[jamiekinkxxx]

I have no idea, that's why I was asking. I meant british black girls that were East African in ethinicity as in like their parents are originally from East Africa. Thanks for the response. Looks like I'll have to find out for myself at a later point in time.

Think you are just asking more that specifically guys may know. YUou can search by ethnicity but not nationality or region... so unless their profile calls out that detail specificcaly (why I would ask?) then I cannot see you havign any luck, unless E Africam girls have such a specific look you can tell by sifting thorugh pictures?

[punterstanding]

Not on SA but had a couple quick questions. Are there East African girls on there and are they easy to access or are they rare like on AW?

You can search by ethnicity but it's no more specific than 'Black / African Descent' so if you're wanting to narrow it down you'd have to ask the girls individually. There are lots of black girls on the site and they do have a harder time finding SD's so if that's what you like, you'll have a happy hunting ground. I've met some fit and filthy black girls from it

[Payyourwaymate]

Thanks for the responses, that's good to know.

[Azuredised]

You can search by ethnicity but it's no more specific than 'Black / African Descent' so if you're wanting to narrow it down you'd have to ask the girls individually. There are lots of black girls on the site and they do have a harder time finding SD's so if that's what you like, you'll have a happy hunting ground. I've met some fit and filthy black girls from it

Hmm... from my experience their expectations are quite high, and they will immediately block you if you suggest anything lower.

[DeliciousChoomba]

It's surprising how far you can get sometimes with a good conversation, I've secured 2 women willing to do overnights one for £250 and the other for £355. My membership runs out in 10 days so if any of you want to trade profiles just send me a private message, I have some 'pretty girl next door types', some mixed race girls etc .


The women I speak to get so creeped out on SA, I can just imagine some punter asking if they offer 'OWO' and how much they charge per hour haha.


I had a bit of a sad conversation with one SB too, she told me about how her mate slept with a SD and when she was getting dressed to leave he grabbed her arm and said "I'm not finished with you love". Which begs the question, how do you treat SBs when you go out with them?


Personally I treat them no differently to a woman I'd date conventionally, we flirt with one another, have good conversation etc. It makes little sense to see a SB and then treat her like an escort (eg. Little to no conversation, no kissing) what'd you guys think?

[jamiekinkxxx]

...., how do you treat SBs when you go out with them?

Personally I treat them no differently to a woman I'd date conventionally, we flirt with one another, have good conversation etc. It makes little sense to see a SB and then treat her like an escort (eg. Little to no conversation, no kissing) what'd you guys think?

I agree I treat them like a 'date' but then I treat escorts like that too... always found that the more I put into an escort encounter the more I get back. I do however prefer longer bookings (mine are always 2+hrs)... like the pre-fun drink, conversation etc... I, personally, just cannot imagine going in, not saying (or hardly a) a word and just fucking (esp without kissing). Each to their own, but just not the way I escort or SD/SB.

[Bobbins1973]

It's surprising how far you can get sometimes with a good conversation, I've secured 2 women willing to do overnights one for £250 and the other for £355. My membership runs out in 10 days so if any of you want to trade profiles just send me a private message, I have some 'pretty girl next door types', some mixed race girls etc .

£355 such a random figure - did she haggle for the extra £5 😂

[punterstanding]

You can search by ethnicity but it's no more specific than 'Black / African Descent' so if you're wanting to narrow it down you'd have to ask the girls individually. There are lots of black girls on the site and they do have a harder time finding SD's so if that's what you like, you'll have a happy hunting ground. I've met some fit and filthy black girls from it

Hmm... from my experience their expectations are quite high, and they will immediately block you if you suggest anything lower.

Some are shall we say 'entitled' but so are some of any other race, I've not found a real difference tbh

[Payyourwaymate]

The women I speak to get so creeped out on SA, I can just imagine some punter asking if they offer 'OWO' and how much they charge per hour haha.


I had a bit of a sad conversation with one SB too, she told me about how her mate slept with a SD and when she was getting dressed to leave he grabbed her arm and said "I'm not finished with you love". Which begs the question, how do you treat SBs when you go out with them?

I laughed more than I should have at that statement; that situation is pretty sad, but still... . Sad for her. The women probably get creeped out as they are expecting a man like the main guy in 50 shades of grey. The real world ain't like that though  .

[stampjones]

Not on SA but had a couple quick questions. Are there East African girls on there and are they easy to access or are they rare like on AW?

Yeah - there were quite a few kenyan girls on there before xmas and I had a nice time with a french/ethiopian. Also met a few ugandans over the years

[andrew.michael]

hmm has anyone booked hotels on dayuse in tier 4? i emailed one of them explaining that i’m meeting a friend and i need a room for two and they replied back with we are taking in people who need the hotel for work (whatever that means) and invited me to book a room.

will report tomorrow to see what happens, just gonna tell reception i’m here for work.

[Whiteknight]

I've had a £200 overnight in London.

Really?

[Steve2]

Really?

Not uncommon 

[mrflash]

£355 such a random figure - did she haggle for the extra £5 😂

Guess it's inclusive of VAT

[stevee]

hmm has anyone booked hotels on dayuse in tier 4? i emailed one of them explaining that i’m meeting a friend and i need a room for two and they replied back with we are taking in people who need the hotel for work (whatever that means) and invited me to book a room.

will report tomorrow to see what happens, just gonna tell reception i’m here for work.

I've booked a few Day Use and Regular rooms in Lockdown . I say I 'm an essential worker and will be joined by a colleague . I do provide a letter from my Boss ( made up on headed notepaper - Real Business ( it's a mates ) and all no problem .

I check in first and then meet the girl little while after and off we go .

If you are in London which I assume you are then Chelsea Cloisters ( cehck in 2pm ) is a piece of piss ( used in Nov Lockdown and this one ) . Have walked staright in with girl and gone up to room