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[Bikerboy]

So I have a number of SBs that I have met and in non-lockdown times have communicated with them regularly general chit chat sexting etc and meeting inbetween. With meets difficult due to the lockdown rules (at the moment I personally feel the risk is too high to meet and can't be bothered with the agro of hotels etc, after issue with an over zealous receptionist previously) how are folks managing the situation? Radio silence until things ease up? or still continue the conversation etc albeit with both sides knowing no meets will happen?

I've had a SB reach out asking for some funds - I've met her in dec and had 3 meets with her. She's great on a meet but is young and slightly naive. Never come across this before, so I deadpanned it by indicating I didn't want to blur lines between what this is, and on the same note, what would her answer be if I wanted to meet without paying for it. No response yet, but any advice from more seasoned SA members on how to proceed?

As always..  in advance

In lockdown 1 I furloughed my long term reg who at that time was at Uni
 - I reckoned we’d meet again and knew I wouldn’t find anyone as good for triple the allowance. Now she’s working we suspend our arrangement/allowance until we can next meet.

[DeanoDeano]

I've had a SB reach out asking for some funds - I've met her in dec and had 3 meets with her. She's great on a meet but is young and slightly naive. Never come across this before, so I deadpanned it by indicating I didn't want to blur lines between what this is, and on the same note, what would her answer be if I wanted to meet without paying for it. No response yet, but any advice from more seasoned SA members on how to proceed?

As always..  in advance

No one can really answer this for you, it all comes down to your relationship with her, the level of trust between you, and how far your sympathy for her position extends.

Can you afford it? How annoyed would you be if she blocked you and scarpered with the cash? How much do you think she’ll actually appreciate it? Will she treat it as an advance on a meet when you’re both able?

Hope it all works out.

[Cunning Punt]

I've had a SB reach out asking for some funds - I've met her in dec and had 3 meets with her. She's great on a meet but is young and slightly naive. Never come across this before, so I deadpanned it by indicating I didn't want to blur lines between what this is, and on the same note, what would her answer be if I wanted to meet without paying for it. No response yet, but any advice from more seasoned SA members on how to proceed?

That's a great response, turning it around on her - these girls need a bit of a reality check.  It will be interesting to see what her response will be - if indeed she does reply.

What is it that she wants the funds for - is she really hard up or supported by family and just wants to buy some new shoes on Axxxxxx?

While you've met her for 3 meets, you've only known her for a couple of weeks; if it been 3 or 4 months and you got on fantastically well, then that's different.

As others have said, only you can make a decision - it depends on how much you want to see her again and think she can be trusted.

But it's a gamble and like all bets, only lay a stake that you wouldn't be distraught about losing.

[donut]

So I have a number of SBs that I have met and in non-lockdown times have communicated with them regularly general chit chat sexting etc and meeting inbetween. With meets difficult due to the lockdown rules (at the moment I personally feel the risk is too high to meet and can't be bothered with the agro of hotels etc, after issue with an over zealous receptionist previously) how are folks managing the situation? Radio silence until things ease up? or still continue the conversation etc albeit with both sides knowing no meets will happen?

I've had a SB reach out asking for some funds - I've met her in dec and had 3 meets with her. She's great on a meet but is young and slightly naive. Never come across this before, so I deadpanned it by indicating I didn't want to blur lines between what this is, and on the same note, what would her answer be if I wanted to meet without paying for it. No response yet, but any advice from more seasoned SA members on how to proceed?

As always..  in advance

I have a similar experience with one SB. Did she ask for money to buy iPhone 11 or 12? Is she from Peterborough please? Just wanted to see if is the same girl!!

[Flush]

This one is asking for £400 for 4 hours

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[Bikerboy]

This one is asking for £400 for 4 hours

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Oh my goodness 😬

[Lfc4life]

She's low maintenance not pretencious, so I think she's just generally struggling, she said she understood my point of view and didnt press any further in fact, the conversation moved off topic and hasn't come back to funds (didn't even get to ask her what amount she was looking for). however, I appreciate all the responses, plenty of food for thought. 

I have a similar experience with one SB. Did she ask for money to buy iPhone 11 or 12? Is she from Peterborough please? Just wanted to see if is the same girl!!

Nope.

[andrew.michael]

This one is asking for £400 for 4 hours

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honestly now that i think about it i would not post prices these girls are offering etc on the site. i’m sure there’s plenty of white knights here who’ll tell them about the forum.

last thing you want is someone you’ve spent a while grafting disappearing/blocking after you’ve come to an agreement.

[Lfc4life]

This one is asking for £400 for 4 hours

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Came across her profile whilst gathering intel for post lockdown membership. She definitely looks FAF however "£400 for 4hrs" is very much a pro mentality in my eyes. I've met super eager student SBs for £200 overnighters.. very eager to please and appreciate the attention.

 

[DeliciousChoomba]

This one is asking for £400 for 4 hours

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Do you think that plain Janes like her actually recieve that much? for that amount you'd be better of seeing an escort

[DeliciousChoomba]

Man I wish that it was possible to filter out women who joined after a certain date.

It seems as if a lot of the new comers have unrealistic expectations to put it mindly.

I'd blame SA to be honest, instead of using a tall dark and handsome bloke in their advertisements they should be using pictures of hairy old men lol.

So far I've only been able to get two decent leads..

What's it like in the closed thread? Honestly I wouldn't mind trading a reliable profile for a reliable profile,  is that allowed?

[DeanoDeano]

honestly now that i think about it i would not post prices these girls are offering etc on the site. i’m sure there’s plenty of white knights here who’ll tell them about the forum.

last thing you want is someone you’ve spent a while grafting disappearing/blocking after you’ve come to an agreement.

Well said.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Man I wish that it was possible to filter out women who joined after a certain date.

It seems as if a lot of the new comers have unrealistic expectations to put it mindly.

The flip side to that theory is that it is best to find a girl who hasn’t been on the site too long so they haven’t become hardened and exposed to all the male time wasters and fantasists. A couple of my best connections were with new members who I was able to see for a reasonable amount. After a while girls will get used to being offered large amounts and will believe it’s the going rate.

[HomerC]

I was a premium member around October/November and it was pretty bad. A massive number were "online only", picture sellers, beggars or scammers. Tik Tok is full of tutorials on how to scam now - have a look for yourself.

It must be even worse now (January) that it's full on COVID lockdown.

Seeking raised their fees by £10 on New Years Day. It's £95 a month (after VAT). I'm not sure it's even worth trying to find a SB

[dmitrybulgakov]

Tik Tok is full of tutorials on how to scam now - have a look for yourself.

Amazing how a "popular" search engine is being devil's advocate. The following search words only show the babes as being the victims and not the other way around....
I asked an online reputation marketer pal of mine to confirm the same.


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[Cunning Punt]

i would not post prices these girls are offering etc on the site. i’m sure there’s plenty of white knights here who’ll tell them about the forum.

last thing you want is someone you’ve spent a while grafting disappearing/blocking after you’ve come to an agreement.

I agree it's usually better to avoid mentioning a named SB's fees on an open thread for various reasons - unless they're very high, in which case mentioning them would save some SDs a lot of time. Though if she's the sort of girl who's going to disappear or block you because she gets higher offer/s, even if you've built up a rapport and come to an agreement, then she probably isn't the sort of girl you want to meet.

Do you think that plain Janes like her actually recieve that much? for that amount you'd be better of seeing an escort

400 is double what I would provide, and as has been said, quoting an amount for a set time period suggests a pro mentality.

However, to answer your question, possibly - or certainly almost that much - as it's London, there are a shortage of genuine SBs atm, it's for 4 hours not 2 and she's not exactly a Plain Jane!! If photos are accurate, she is 8/10 IMO, so the girls you are seeing are clearly stunners - fair play to you. 

[Link7]

Covid is a total momentum killer (unless you're happy to meet right now) which has sort of rendered a lot of the conversations on SA aimless, but I am so bored generally that I actually don't mind maintaining a subscription.

In terms of how i'm playing WhatsApp - if the convo is sustaining itself naturally and we're legit enjoying talking for hours (extremely rare (for me)  - only doing this with 1 person) I'm happy to play penpals for the meantime.

Everyone else I have a little initial chat with, maybe over a day or two, just to lay groundwork. Then I am basically just leaving it and keeping their number until I'm ready to actually do something. I reckon a lot of the leads will still be good in a few months - nobody's really going anywhere and the strains people are under (unfortunately) are going to be felt for the full duration of the pandemic.

Of course, you could just subscribe in a few months and get to work then - but as I said, I'm bored. Grafting is the super time consuming/often tedious part (imo) - so if you've got a shortlist ready to go whenever restrictions do ease up, that's not a bad thing.

[mrflash]

However, to answer your question, possibly - or certainly almost that much - as it's London, there are a shortage of genuine SBs atm, it's for 4 hours not 2 and she's not exactly a Plain Jane!! If photos are accurate, she is 8/10 IMO, so the girls you are seeing are clearly stunners - fair play to you. 

I saw the original post, checked the profile and thought she was definitely not a plain Jane. I was left wondering if my standards were too low and even worse, I was overpaying (though I pay a maximum of 300) for the women I meet. Thanks for confirming that I was not wrong in rating her as hot.

[Link7]

I saw the original post, checked the profile and thought she was definitely not a plain Jane. I was left wondering if my standards were too low and even worse, I was overpaying (though I pay a maximum of 300) for the women I meet. Thanks for confirming that I was not wrong in rating her as hot.

I would say she is decent. She's fitter than some of the ones people have been posting. But if you don't get to bang her for whatever reason, you shouldn't he gutted.

Price does seem a little high. Then again, if she was advertising £100/hr on AW she'd be seen as the biggest bargain. Depends how you look at it

[Link7]

I'd like to have more than sex. Companionship, yes, but most importantly real intimacy. Think dinner dates and sex/possibly overnights with someone who actually wants to be there. I feel like even top GFE providers hold back because of a lack of attraction, and I fear it will be the same on SA. They're all human after all.

Ultimately you'll need a girlfriend for this imho mate - and I don't mean that derisively. That's not to say you can't try and turn a SA girl into your girlfriend - though query whether you'd want to (there are surely some additional complications - eg. trust) and whether SA is even the easiest platform to find a relationship on. I actually don't think it is.

You still don't really know the girls you meet on SA. You know what they show you/let you see - same as they know about you. How real is the "real intimacy" that you've read about? Of course, no one can answer this in a general sense. It's a matter of perception to the people involved. How many reviews have you read where a punter writes about the shuddering orgasms he brought an escort...?

You can try to get to know girls from SA, for sure, and there are clearly people who at least believe they've been in a relationship with someone they met on SA - but what you cannot tell from the forum is what is real vs. what isn't.

If, on the other hand, you can be happy spending a few (or several) hours shagging/socialising with a fit girl at a decent all-in price, you are much more likely to find SA totally fulfilling. More than that, I don't know - possible, but difficult to comment on.

[mrflash]

I would say she is decent. She's fitter than some of the ones people have been posting. But if you don't get to bang her for whatever reason, you shouldn't he gutted.

Price does seem a little high. Then again, if she was advertising £100/hr on AW she'd be seen as the biggest bargain. Depends how you look at it

Completely agree. 400 is a bit high. But I would definitely say yes for a 300. I guess there would also be men willing to pay 350/400. One trend I have noticed is that most fitness freaks always come at an extra cost.

[Cunning Punt]

I'd like to have more than sex. Companionship, yes, but most importantly real intimacy. Think dinner dates and sex/possibly overnights with someone who actually wants to be there. I feel like even top GFE providers hold back because of a lack of attraction, and I fear it will be the same on SA. They're all human after all.

Ultimately you'll need a girlfriend for this imho mate - and I don't mean that derisively.

That's rubbish - and I don't mean that derisively. What xyfex is describing is precisely what being on SA is all about for many of us!

Of course, it depends who you are and who you are seeking.

If you're a middle-aged, below-average-looking guy targeting young 10/10 model types, who are probably immature, vain and money orientated, then yes it will be a struggle to find that GFE. If, however, you are looking for a girl-next-door type then, with time, effort, charm and nous, you will find a genuine connection.

[londonhunter008]

This one is asking for £400 for 4 hours

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It seems she is trying to find potential SDs post lockdown and asking higher prices once she reaches at a certain point. Asked 350 from me.
I dont think there is any point bidding because you cant meet in current situation right now and by the time situation improves every SB will have many prospective SDs and every SB may have many SDs...eventually she will go to the highest bidder. Also in children section she mentioned...Prefer not to say...that actaully means someone with kids. Nothing wrong about it but some members may have preferences .

I spoke to her in past and sounded like someone who is willing to meet as many men as she can once she get what she asked for and will ignore you if she find someone who can pay more.  A serial Sugar Baby.

[londonhunter008]

Man I wish that it was possible to filter out women who joined after a certain date.

It seems as if a lot of the new comers have unrealistic expectations to put it mindly.

I'd blame SA to be honest, instead of using a tall dark and handsome bloke in their advertisements they should be using pictures of hairy old men lol.

So far I've only been able to get two decent leads..

What's it like in the closed thread? Honestly I wouldn't mind trading a reliable profile for a reliable profile,  is that allowed?

You can filter by most recent joined.
I would ignore anyone with half hearted profile /unverified profile/ or specifically mentioned that she is looking for online

[Cunning Punt]

Price does seem a little high. Then again, if she was advertising £100/hr on AW she'd be seen as the biggest bargain. Depends how you look at it

Unless she is offering one-hour meets for £100 then that's not comparable. By all means ask her if you're interested but my guess is that she won't be interested due to prioritising getting a reasonable sum of cash and not wanting to faff about with short meets.

Although most WGs are more than £100/hr, they tend to offer better value for longer bookings and I am sure plenty of them, even in London, will accept 400 for 4 hours, certainly if you've met before and it's on a day when business is quieter.

I spoke to her in past and sounded like someone who is willing to meet as many men as she can once she get what she asked for and will ignore you if she find someone who can pay more.  A serial Sugar Baby.

No, a serial timewaster and a greedy escort, not a SB, if that is indeed the case.

[xyfek]

Ultimately you'll need a girlfriend for this imho mate - and I don't mean that derisively. That's not to say you can't try and turn a SA girl into your girlfriend - though query whether you'd want to (there are surely some additional complications - eg. trust) and whether SA is even the easiest platform to find a relationship on. I actually don't think it is.

You still don't really know the girls you meet on SA. You know what they show you/let you see - same as they know about you. How real is the "real intimacy" that you've read about? Of course, no one can answer this in a general sense. It's a matter of perception to the people involved. How many reviews have you read where a punter writes about the shuddering orgasms he brought an escort...?

You can try to get to know girls from SA, for sure, and there are clearly people who at least believe they've been in a relationship with someone they met on SA - but what you cannot tell from the forum is what is real vs. what isn't.

If, on the other hand, you can be happy spending a few (or several) hours shagging/socialising with a fit girl at a decent all-in price, you are much more likely to find SA totally fulfilling. More than that, I don't know - possible, but difficult to comment on.

That's rubbish - and I don't mean that derisively. What xyfex is describing is precisely what being on SA is all about for many of us!

Of course, it depends who you are and who you are seeking.

If you're a middle-aged, below-average-looking guy targeting young 10/10 model types, who are probably immature, vain and money orientated, then yes it will be a struggle to find that GFE. If, however, you are looking for a girl-next-door type then, with time, effort, charm and nous, you will find a genuine connection.

Thank you both for your insights. I guess I'll have to dive in and see for myself what it's like, and whether it's for me at all. Perhaps when this pandemic subsides might be a good time to give a it a serious go.

[jamiekinkxxx]

Interesting message from a SB on am takking to on SA.... she ideally wanted 500, I was only offering 400 so she said:

"If you take time chatting around, you can get girls for 150 lol. This website became a pig's market where you negotiate"

[martini2429]

Interesting message from a SB on am takking to on SA.... she ideally wanted 500, I was only offering 400 so she said:

"If you take time chatting around, you can get girls for 150 lol. This website became a pig's market where you negotiate"

Be careful talking money on SA, it may/could lead to you being banned for "escort terminology"

 

[NightKid]

Interesting message from a SB on am takking to on SA.... she ideally wanted 500, I was only offering 400 so she said:

"If you take time chatting around, you can get girls for 150 lol. This website became a pig's market where you negotiate"

Tell the silly bint it's like any other market and that's how markets work - willing seller, willing buyer 

Personally I wouldn't even offer that much to a stuck up bitch like that, so if she doesn't like it she's always welcome to try the Dubai porta potties market instead where the real pigs are 

[jamiekinkxxx]

Be careful talking money on SA, it may/could lead to you being banned for "escort terminology"

 

Noted and thanks for the tip 

[Azuredised]

Has anyone seen/interacted with  her :
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[Cunning Punt]

Interesting message from a SB on am takking to on SA.... she ideally wanted 500, I was only offering 400 so she said:

"If you take time chatting around, you can get girls for 150 lol. This website became a pig's market where you negotiate"

ONLY offering 400?! That's around double what many of us provide. She's deluded. Going on that attitude, I'm sure it would be a shit experience anyway so bullet dodged.

But yes, she is partly right. If you spend time chatting around (and adopt charm), then you will find girls for 150-200 - who may not be as good looking but the sex and company will be infinitely better. Though they won't all be 'pigs'.

 

[Link7]

That's rubbish - and I don't mean that derisively. What xyfex is describing is precisely what being on SA is all about for many of us!

Of course, it depends who you are and who you are seeking.

If you're a middle-aged, below-average-looking guy targeting young 10/10 model types, who are probably immature, vain and money orientated, then yes it will be a struggle to find that GFE. If, however, you are looking for a girl-next-door type then, with time, effort, charm and nous, you will find a genuine connection.

It only seemed to me that our friend was putting a lot of store on the authenticity of the woman's attraction to him. Given that priority, you can see why I suggested looking for a normal relationship.

Of course, not saying there's any reason why you cannot find someone who really fancies you on SA. But, it hasn't been my reading of the posts here generally that that is what being on SA is about for many/most. A genuine connection, sure - ie. someone you genuinely get on with and who appreciates your company, as you theirs. But I think many of us remain unashamedly cognizant of the influence of the financial incentive here. Unashamed, I think, because the priority for many is probably still our own attraction to the girl (and getting to fuck her) rather than anything else.

Just my take on it.

[Link7]

Thank you both for your insights. I guess I'll have to dive in and see for myself what it's like, and whether it's for me at all. Perhaps when this pandemic subsides might be a good time to give a it a serious go.

Be interesting to hear your feedback for sure, especially given that you say even the best gfe escorts (so objectively great actresses who would care the least of any woman about looks) haven't done it for you. Nothing to lose except time and money - there's not a man alive who hasn't wasted that on women...

[Lfc4life]

It seems like lockdown is really starting to bite.. I have today received very similar messages from 3 SBs on my contact list all with a similar message (copy and paste joby, as with two I have been conversing and they all started the message as if we hadn't spoken for a while. Makes me think back to a few member posts regarding SB reddit forums etc.. trying to raise cashflow during lockdown)..

"really hate to ask.. very embarrassed.. had pay cuts.. in overdraft.. please help.. i'll repay it it etc etc"

Was tempted to renew SA membership to update the contact list, but it really appears difficult at the moment (although Im sure there are a few gems to be found, considering the current environment) however will definitely be staying away until lockdown restrictions ease.

[xyfek]

Be interesting to hear your feedback for sure, especially given that you say even the best gfe escorts (so objectively great actresses who would care the least of any woman about looks) haven't done it for you. Nothing to lose except time and money - there's not a man alive who hasn't wasted that on women...

Maybe I should take a step back and rephrase my intentions. It's not so much that top GFE escorts haven't been enough for me. With a few of them I've had great connection and very realistic experiences, to the point that I think they actually liked me (at least as a person) and in one case I even got the dreaded EAS. But inevitably the illusion is shattered if you try to get closer emotionally and once that happens it's just not the same thing anymore, you start to see through the acting if that makes sense.

Essentially, what I want to explore is whether it's possible to keep that illusion going, that the perfect girl you've been fucking and get along with so great is also in it for more than the financial reward. It's not the attraction that has to be authentic, it's the illusion of it that needs to be sustained. It's a subtle difference and, of course, if it's actually real there should be no trouble. My impression from reading this thread is that experiences with SA girls are closer to my goal, but everyone has different expectations and it's also possible that my experiences with top GFE escorts are not so common, which is why I remain skeptical that SA girls can do better.

If I do end up taking the plunge on SA, I'll be sure to come around to share my perspective.

[Link7]

Essentially, what I want to explore is whether it's possible to keep that illusion going, that the perfect girl you've been fucking and get along with so great is also in it for more than the financial reward. It's not the attraction that has to be authentic, it's the illusion of it that needs to be sustained.

Oh ok - in which case I agree with CP, sounds like SA is for you. Proof that it's a better illusion? The "dating" debate. Bear in mind several posters on here don't even agree that SA counts as prostitution.

Also, been discussed, but there's a handful of girls on SA asking for mentoring instead of payment. So while generally true that the girls are in it for financial reward (otherwise they could have used Tinder), to be fair, not in 100% of cases.

[Bikerboy]

Maybe I should take a step back and rephrase my intentions. It's not so much that top GFE escorts haven't been enough for me. With a few of them I've had great connection and very realistic experiences, to the point that I think they actually liked me (at least as a person) and in one case I even got the dreaded EAS. But inevitably the illusion is shattered if you try to get closer emotionally and once that happens it's just not the same thing anymore, you start to see through the acting if that makes sense.

Essentially, what I want to explore is whether it's possible to keep that illusion going, that the perfect girl you've been fucking and get along with so great is also in it for more than the financial reward. It's not the attraction that has to be authentic, it's the illusion of it that needs to be sustained. It's a subtle difference and, of course, if it's actually real there should be no trouble. My impression from reading this thread is that experiences with SA girls are closer to my goal, but everyone has different expectations and it's also possible that my experiences with top GFE escorts are not so common, which is why I remain skeptical that SA girls can do better.

If I do end up taking the plunge on SA, I'll be sure to come around to share my perspective.

Like you I’ve had good connections and great times with top escorts and you could make an argument that the very best escorts give a similar experience to some on seeking which I would agree with.
Seeking can differ with girls who have fewer partners or no else (on a full time basis anyway). That may matter because escorts seeing lots of guys don’t always cum much - this may or may not bother you but it may feel more of a connection to some men. That said pretty much all girls go into escorting/seeking for help with money and without the money they won’t hang around so a dose of realism is needed- even if you get on they prob aren’t seeking you for your good looks and charm 😂

[xyfek]

Like you I’ve had good connections and great times with top escorts and you could make an argument that the very best escorts give a similar experience to some on seeking which I would agree with.

It's great to hear from someone who comes from a similar place. If this is your verdict, then I'm not so sure I'll bother with SA. If there's one thing this thread has taught me is that finding the right girl on SA can be excruciatingly difficult and time consuming. One advantage of sticking to escorts is that we have the benefit of UKP reviews to point us in the right direction.

Seeking can differ with girls who have fewer partners or no else (on a full time basis anyway). That may matter because escorts seeing lots of guys don’t always cum much - this may or may not bother you but it may feel more of a connection to some men.

On the other hand, this is something I'd like to experience. I think it's fairly easy to tell when a girl is genuinely enjoying your company outside the bedroom. As for the sex, not so much. If the girl cums that's a sure sign she's enjoying herself, and that would make me feel great. I wouldn't say this is something that bothers me, but it's certainly been lacking in my experiences. Like you say, with escorts it just doesn't happen and for me it's a reminder of the transactional nature of the relationship.

That said pretty much all girls go into escorting/seeking for help with money and without the money they won’t hang around so a dose of realism is needed- even if you get on they prob aren’t seeking you for your good looks and charm 😂

I always try to keep this in mind, but it's when the lines get blurred that you're sure you found a good one!

[Cunning Punt]

It only seemed to me that our friend was putting a lot of store on the authenticity of the woman's attraction to him. Given that priority, you can see why I suggested looking for a normal relationship.

Of course, not saying there's any reason why you cannot find someone who really fancies you on SA. But, it hasn't been my reading of the posts here generally that that is what being on SA is about for many/most. A genuine connection, sure - ie. someone you genuinely get on with and who appreciates your company, as you theirs. But I think many of us remain unashamedly cognizant of the influence of the financial incentive here. Unashamed, I think, because the priority for many is probably still our own attraction to the girl (and getting to fuck her) rather than anything else.

Just my take on it.

I never suggested many of us are looking for someone who really fancies us (not something we would probably want anyway). Just something where there is a bit of attraction towards us and a genuine connection that makes the sex and experience great and far, far superior to WGs. We're all aware that virtually none of these girls would be sleeping with us if no money was involved.

That's how the OP's 1st post came across - which he has since confirmed, though it seems he may be happy with just a convincing illusion. But it seems he's rather overthinking it...

It's great to hear from someone who comes from a similar place. If this is your verdict, then I'm not so sure I'll bother with SA. If there's one thing this thread has taught me is that finding the right girl on SA can be excruciatingly difficult and time consuming. One advantage of sticking to escorts is that we have the benefit of UKP reviews to point us in the right direction.

On the other hand, this is something I'd like to experience. I think it's fairly easy to tell when a girl is genuinely enjoying your company outside the bedroom. As for the sex, not so much. If the girl cums that's a sure sign she's enjoying herself, and that would make me feel great. I wouldn't say this is something that bothers me, but it's certainly been lacking in my experiences. Like you say, with escorts it just doesn't happen and for me it's a reminder of the transactional nature of the relationship.

[DeliciousChoomba]

However, to answer your question, possibly - or certainly almost that much - as it's London, there are a shortage of genuine SBs atm, it's for 4 hours not 2 and she's not exactly a Plain Jane!! If photos are accurate, she is 8/10 IMO, so the girls you are seeing are clearly stunners - fair play to you. 

Different strokes for different folks I suppose, some of my favourite girls are the rich/more financially stable ones, I had two good looking ones who were ok with £250.00 for an overnight, so seeing that woman ask for £400.00 for 4hrs blew my mind.


So far I've only been able to arrange £350.00 for an over night, most of the girls that I'm talking to are staying with their parents but they've agreed to £250.00 per meet, but we havent really set a time limit.

[DeliciousChoomba]

To save you guys some of the work here are some of my findings:


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She wants £450.00 ppm with no set time limit.


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She just wants gifts.


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She wants £250 for an over night

[DeliciousChoomba]

Maybe I should take a step back and rephrase my intentions. It's not so much that top GFE escorts haven't been enough for me. With a few of them I've had great connection and very realistic experiences, to the point that I think they actually liked me (at least as a person) and in one case I even got the dreaded EAS.

This is initially what I wanted from seeking, I found a stunning girl who actually gave me a really fair ppm for an overnight, I was her first partner from seeking and when we texted and met in person the chemistry was through the roof and honestly we had some of the best sex that I've ever had in my life.


Obviously stupid old me caught feelings and the next few times that we met, it didn't feel as exciting and refreshing as the first time that we met. Plus because we got on so well she'd tell me about her problems turning a GFE into the full GFE with all the ups and down, which would turn an evening of fun into a bit of a downer. God help me we even got into a couple of petty arguments over time haha.

 I broke it off eventually and I felt devasted, I would have kept on seeing her but I knew that we weren't dating conventionally and so I'd always be left wanting more and worst of all I always wanted our meetings to be like our first.


Eventually I found someone who was just a sex addict and we got on well but not so well that I'd end up catching feelings for her.


You'll find what you want on there, but be careful when it comes to blurring the lines, at the end of the day it's just a money conversation, as biting as it sounds all I'm looking for these days is a cost effective fuck with some GFE thrown into the mix.

Having said that I still really value my first seeking experience, it gave me a lot more confidence with dating and sex in general, which is something that would be a lot more expensive to experience with an escort.


 I'd go as far as to say that because an escort views sex as her profession whereas a SB is more likely to view you as a fwb/bf, you'd never get the same experience with an escort unless you invest a lot of time and money into her. Some of my best times with my first SB was when we just texted each other constantly and shared jokes. Whenever I texted an escort all they reply with is 'CALL ME' and then when I do they read through their services like a tired Mc Donald's driving thru worker reading through the menu

[HomerC]

To save you guys some of the work here are some of my findings:

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She wants £250 for an over night

I've never met this girl in person, but she's asked me for cash about 4 times. She's said stuff like she's "going through a lot". She's sent me a purproted screenshot of her bank account, showing a low balance.  She like, "I hate to ask but.." She's plead "How about something little..."

At least she waited several months to start begging.

I muted her on WhatsApp because it became so persistent. Let me know if you (or anyone) actually meets with her in real life.

[y101y]

I've never met this girl in person, but she's asked me for cash about 4 times. She's said stuff like she's "going through a lot". She's sent me a purproted screenshot of her bank account, showing a low balance.  She like, "I hate to ask but.." She's plead "How about something little..."

At least she waited several months to start begging.

I muted her on WhatsApp because it became so persistent. Let me know if you (or anyone) actually meets with her in real life.

How much did you give her before muting her?

[Apu]

This girl kept offering me a threesome with her sexy partner. In the end it didn't happen because of poor comms. Shes ugly, her girlfriend was a proper sexy little thing.

[Apu]

For some stupid reason I rejoined SA.

I've always had a good experience on SA but now it is terrible.
Full of scammers, online only and proper mingers.

I've also noticed alot of girls have changed their locations to Dubai to drum up arab interest but clearly isn't working when 90% of SA is located in dubai.

[dmitrybulgakov]

For some stupid reason I rejoined SA.

I've always had a good experience on SA but now it is terrible.
Full of scammers, online only and proper mingers.

I've also noticed alot of girls have changed their locations to Dubai to drum up arab interest but clearly isn't working when 90% of SA is located in dubai.

Dubai is great for portta potties. May be that is what they have in mind?

[DeliciousChoomba]

I've never met this girl in person, but she's asked me for cash about 4 times. She's said stuff like she's "going through a lot". She's sent me a purproted screenshot of her bank account, showing a low balance.  She like, "I hate to ask but.." She's plead "How about something little..."

At least she waited several months to start begging.

I muted her on WhatsApp because it became so persistent. Let me know if you (or anyone) actually meets with her in real life.

Oh wow, I haven't but she does randomly text me sometimes, I got a feeling that her heart wasn't in it so I never set a meet.

[DeliciousChoomba]

For some stupid reason I rejoined SA.

I've always had a good experience on SA but now it is terrible.
Full of scammers, online only and proper mingers.

I've also noticed alot of girls have changed their locations to Dubai to drum up arab interest but clearly isn't working when 90% of SA is located in dubai.

What type of women are you going for?

I've spoken to some beauties, if anything the issue is that some of them want too much.

Normally I go for the girl next door types, I avoid the ones who refer to money in their bios (stating the obvious there), I avoid the ones who only joined recently too as they're too nervous to do anything in real life.


Plus you've only recently rejoined, after my first day back I thought that it had gone to the dogs but after a week on there even though I thought that the overall quality is a little bit down, you can still find someone decent