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[Cunning Punt]

Sounds about right for London although i would try negotiating towards the low end. 300-350 ppm or 1k-1.5k monthly allowance.

Thats only the low end if you are looking for a 19yr to 25yr old Barbie. I look in the 25 to 45 age bracket from £100 to £200 which I consider to be the low end. I get plenty of rejections but enough takers to keep me busy.

Exactly.

300ppm and £1.5k a month is generally not the low end, even in London, and encouraging other members that it is across the board, is shooting all SDs in the foot.

Most of my arrangements have been with 18-25 girls but not Barbies, just 6 or 7/10 nice, enthusiastic girl next door types which is what I prefer. Generally, my ppm was 200 London and 150 elsewhere, though with charm, nous and effort, and it being tougher times due to COVID, you will get some takers lower than this. Like Dave, I've had many rejections at a level which is lower than many SDs offer, but with charm and targeting the right girls, it has been enough to get a reasonable number of takers.

It all depends what you are looking for. Sure, you'll almost certainly have to pay more than 200 for a model type, but is that really what a guy goes onto Seeking for? If she's a vain, money-orientated girl then the chances are that she'll not just be Barbie in looks but in bed as well - stiff, lifeless, silent and just staring at a fixed point straight ahead.


 

[Link7]

To be fair, other than Iscbar, I haven't seen anyone who thinks 300-350 ppm/1-1.5k pcm is low end!

Agree with others - it's not as if the 150-250 girls are all plain Janes either. Max I've paid thus far is 250 - 31 yr old blonde, no kids, body in great nick, knew what she was doing in the sack.

I've found the 18/19 yr olds immature and inconsistent with messaging. That's assuming they're as old as they say they are (careful), you wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen out with them and they have any "skills" whatsoever.

[mrflash]

Thats only the low end if you are looking for a 19yr to 25yr old Barbie. I look in the 25 to 45 age bracket from £100 to £200 which I consider to be the low end. I get plenty of rejections but enough takers to keep me busy.

Interesting. I prefer the age bracket you mentioned. But I never chatted with anyone accepting less that 200. Can you define low end? Is it fitness level? Or facial beauty?

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Interesting. I prefer the age bracket you mentioned. But I never chatted with anyone accepting less that 200. Can you define low end? Is it fitness level? Or facial beauty?

When I said low end I was only talking money. My standard offer is £150 or £100 if I have to get a hotel room. I play a numbers game sending out loads of messages and then try and make a connection before mentioning money

[isbcar]

Exactly.

300ppm and £1.5k a month is generally not the low end, even in London, and encouraging other members that it is across the board, is shooting all SDs in the foot.

Perhaps I have been unlucky then as I have yet to find a sub 300ppm in london. Have been chatting with 19-25 model types and normally get quoted above 500.

[Link7]

Perhaps I have been unlucky then as I have yet to find a sub 300ppm in london. Have been chatting with 19-25 model types and normally get quoted above 500.

Those are definitely the high end girls mate.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Perhaps I have been unlucky then as I have yet to find a sub 300ppm in london. Have been chatting with 19-25 model types and normally get quoted above 500.

Don't be scared to low ball a counter offer. It's a negotiation process and remember on SA you are in a buyers market.

[andrew.michael]

met up with a girl yesterday for a m&g. she told me there is a lot of middle eastern men on the site offering good money but she’s looking for someone she’s attracted to and to connect with emotionally. Is happy to take a lower payment. (also imo 1.5k is not on the lower end)

lots of average looking girls in their late 20s looking for 1.5k a month which is making me laugh. i’d splash on the beautiful young ones but the older ones no chance.

[mrflash]

met up with a girl yesterday for a m&g. she told me there is a lot of middle eastern men on the site offering good money but she’s looking for someone she’s attracted to and to connect with emotionally. Is happy to take a lower payment. (also imo 1.5k is not on the lower end)

lots of average looking girls in their late 20s looking for 1.5k a month which is making me laugh. i’d splash on the beautiful young ones but the older ones no chance.

I have asked about monthly allowances to a couple of girls. I would say they are 8 out of 10 looks wise, age 26 and asked around 2k per month. I am sorry will stick to ppm for now. But I am pretty sure there are men who are open to pay such hefty sums.

[Cunning Punt]

Perhaps I have been unlucky then as I have yet to find a sub 300ppm in london. Have been chatting with 19-25 model types and normally get quoted above 500.

Luck is only a small part of it; mostly it's down to your approach and who you are approaching.

300 is the default starting point for many girls, particularly in London, but just because a girl quotes you a figure, it doesn't mean you automatically accept it, and almost all SBs are willing to negotiate on their initial asking price - just like a normal exchange, whether you be buying a house, car, service, whatever.

The trick is to have a maximum figure that is reasonable for that area, for that type of girl - and stick to it. Don't be frightened to say "sorry, that's more than I provide, I'm afraid" and walk away. She may relent but even if not, don't beat yourself up over it even if she seems fantastic; just accept it wasn't meant to be and move on. She may come back at a later stage when she finds she ain't going to get her inflated asking price.

[Cunning Punt]

I have asked about monthly allowances to a couple of girls. I would say they are 8 out of 10 looks wise, age 26 and asked around 2k per month. I am sorry will stick to ppm for now. But I am pretty sure there are men who are open to pay such hefty sums.

There are indeed men out there willing to pay such hefty sums, and sure if a girl gets a 2k arrangement that only last a couple of months, then that is worth a lot of 200ppms. But:
- there are not that many guys providing that, particularly at the moment
- very few SDs are going to spend 2k on one girl, certainly for very long
- not many of them will be desirable on a personal level for different reasons
- many SDs will probably expect a model for that money
- most guys who are that rich can find suitable women who they know they get along with, without SA, and who probably don't want as much as 2k

[bbz123]

Perhaps I have been unlucky then as I have yet to find a sub 300ppm in london. Have been chatting with 19-25 model types and normally get quoted above 500.

They all quote like 500 plus, the key is to negotiate down and be firm. I find giving a lower value than you actually plan to pay then 'meeting in the middle' can work quite well. Personally £350 is the most I've ever paid, and it was for a relatively hot girl I spent 7+ hours with who literally did anything I wanted her to do. She also quoted me £500 which I flat out rejected to begin with. Generally my meets have ranged from £150-£300, with most being around £200-£250. And as someone else said, don't be afraid to walk away if the girl doesn't come down. It isn't uncommon for them to come back and accept afterwards.

Also to add to this, that £350 girl I met actually showed me her SA and the messages she gets. There are legit guys that will write a blank check for these chicks, so no wonder their prices get so ridiculous.

[Brimich]

I have managed to have two successful meets so far, I don’t get many opportunities due to my circumstances. Both times I was looking for an overnight meet and obviously a “stunner” in her mid twenties.  Both times I had a great time, with drinks followed by a full night back at my place. Both girls were really attractive, great and interesting personalities, and very VERY adventurous 😊.

But, one was 400, one was 500. Given it was overnight, And what occurred, I was ok with that amount, but by far the most I have spent, having had 30 years of punting. Both were much better than an escort, but reading this chat, I wonder if 300 for this kind of criteria would be possible. 

[SpaceRaiderDave]

........... but reading this chat, I wonder if 300 for this kind of criteria would be possible.

Yes they may well have accepted less but you had a great time. Now you are learning from other experiences you can apply that to future negotiations. A win/win

[Link7]

They all quote like 500 plus

I haven't found that they all quote 500+ at all    I think I've been quoted above this(700 ppm) only once - and I truly thought she was having a laugh. And it's not as if I target munters! 

I think it really must help to build rapport first, especially if you have no photos or aren't comfortable sharing. Might be stating the obvious, but I think if you go straight in asking "how much" as a faceless stranger, the price will be higher - because in her mind, the girl will contemplate the compensation she'd want for sleeping with potentially anyone, as opposed to the compensation she'd want for sleeping with you (which may well be lower having made a basic assessment of your personality and/or looks).

Already been proven a few times on this thread that different folk have been offered different prices by the same girl.

[DeanoDeano]

There are a lot of men on the website who pay a lot of cash or at least offer it.

The one key thing to remember is that it’s not a website that naturally attracts “punters”. You’ve got (off the top of my head) socially awkward city traders, drug dealers, pimps, nouveau rich kids, start up fin tech heads, a wide and varied group of men who have lots of cash and for whatever reason choose to find women this way.

The mix of guys on there will lead lots of the girls to believe that £2k a month is realistic and attainable and they’d rather not drop their knickers for a 200 ppm.

And as said it depends what sort of girl you go for - the girl next door type will have a different expectation from the struggling model, or the sex starved milf, or the student, or the semi pro.

[Cunning Punt]

There are a lot of men on the website who pay a lot of cash or at least offer it.

More the latter the former - I don't believe there are lots of guys in the UK paying a lot of cash, certainly atm.

I've lost count of the number of times a girl has said to me, "well, I've been offered xx". To which my reply is "yes, but what have you actually RECEIVED?" and they then go all quiet because it's usually diddly squat or an amount not dissimilar to what I would be prepared to provide, not just offer. As I tell them, it's easy for a chancer to OFFER anything because they ain't going to go through with it.

Even if an SD does provide that amount, they will have offered it to a large number of girls and then settled on just one. Trouble is the damage has been done because the many cast-aside girls then think that amount is standard and what they deserve, so are insulted if guys offer anything less - thus making it harder for the rest of us.

[stampjones]

One question. You get one month membership. By the end you get contacts of 7/8 SB's. How do you go about meeting them? Say you meet your favourite profile first. If you like that person, do you decide to not meet others? Or do you just go ahead and still meet others? Given budget limitations, it might take awhile to come back to the first SB if you are meeting others. Do you make any excuse to the first SB? I know this is subjective and some people may want to enjoy with one SB over a period of time.

In short, how many regular SB's do you have at the same time? If there are multiple, how many do you meet in a month? Do you tell them that you actually meet multiple SB's and that's the reason why there are long gaps between meets?

If you end up with only 7 numbers in a month then its very unlikely you’ll get any sex in my experience. Things go wrong for all sorts of reasons so the trick is to get as many as possible (obviously only ones you actually want to meet) and push as far as you can. This often ends up with you having a few too many and you have to juggle or put on the back burner but its a much better problem to have than time on your hands and nobody to meet. Also if you are new it helps to get the feel for what is possible, eg what ppms work etc. During a one month subscription I must get maybe 100-150 onto whatsapp out of which I’ll shag around 7-10.

[Heph]

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Unsure of herself, averse to calling herself brass, but definitely ripe. Progress reports welcome.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

During a one month subscription I must get maybe 100-150 onto whatsapp.

Wow I though I was investing a lot of time on SA but that level must keep you very busy. I join for a month probably 2 or 3 times a year. During a typical month I would send out about the same number (100 - 150) copy/paste messages giving them an indication of what I'm looking for. This will result in maybe 50-75 positive responses of which 20- 30 will go on WhatsApp or E Mail. The net result is usually a pool of around 10 who are available for sex at a price within my budget. The next stage is the hardest deciding who gets preference in meeting and what excuses I use to keep the others in line. If I like a girl I will want to keep seeing her so I usually only fuck 3 or 4 of the girls chosen as there are lots of repeat visits. I don't do M&G so I do tend to spend a bit more time chatting to them on WhatsApp so they are comfortable going straight to the hotel room on meeting.

[mrflash]

If you end up with only 7 numbers in a month then its very unlikely you’ll get any sex in my experience. Things go wrong for all sorts of reasons so the trick is to get as many as possible (obviously only ones you actually want to meet) and push as far as you can. This often ends up with you having a few too many and you have to juggle or put on the back burner but its a much better problem to have than time on your hands and nobody to meet. Also if you are new it helps to get the feel for what is possible, eg what ppms work etc. During a one month subscription I must get maybe 100-150 onto whatsapp out of which I’ll shag around 7-10.

Not really. I have scheduled meeting with 3 of them and all of them went well. I got the 7 numbers after extensive chat and filtering. That's where I am stuck now. I really like two of them. I am wondering if I should meet the other 4 or stick with the first 2 for the time being.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

I am wondering if I should meet the other 4 or stick with the first 2 for the time being.

That's the dimema I face every time. I find the sex improves and the liklihood of a reduced rate increases with repeat visits so I do like to build up a relationship but the knowledge of having another SB willing to see me for a reasonably priced fuck is a temptation hard to resist. 

[Lush1pot]

The two girls I’ve had fun with I paid £140 and £150 for. The £150 was an overnight in a hotel so add that cost too which I think was £80. Another I met wanted a gift rather than cash costing £200 to £250 as there were several items she wanted. Never got to have fun with her in the end sadly as I found her a bit cold to begin with and think my hesitation made her go with someone else.

[mrflash]

That's the dimema I face every time. I find the sex improves and the liklihood of a reduced rate increases with repeat visits so I do like to build up a relationship but the knowledge of having another SB willing to see me for a reasonably priced fuck is a temptation hard to resist.

Yeah. Seriously stuck in that dilemma 

[DeliciousChoomba]

So I have been playing around with SA today now that I have premium membership. Offers ranging from pics to PPM to allowances. What is interesting is the price ranges... I have had two equally lovely ladies offer 700ppm and the other 400ppm...

I have had requested of 1500 per month to 3000 per month...

Is there a set “price” one should be aiming towards...

Would be interested in better understand idea protocol Vs learning from My own mistakes.

Appreciate the guidance all

Lot's of people have given good advice, but something worth mentioning is the opinion of seasoned sugar babies and daddies, as both groups agree that a price per meet is a good place to start an arrangement and always have a set price in mind.


For me I start from £200 ppm but I know that my upper limit is 300 but generally we settle at 250. If the woman has a high ppm demand I tell her that we'll start from 250 and if I like her then I'll pay more next time.

My method has worked well for me and 9/10 times I've gotten women who want £500.00 down to 250.


I'm surprised by some of the ppms that others are paying, I've had 9/10s for £250, I just couldn't imagine paying sums like £500.00..its important to negotiate, don't force the matter but don't pay more than is necessary.

For context I'm a 28 yo relatively decent looking chap, who's no stranger to setting up dates on apps thanks to years on Tinder lol.. so I guess various factors affect the ppms that are set.

Just don't pay more than you have to mate

[gbawekanu]

How much should I put in the "net worth" and "Annual Income" sections of my SA profile.

Any advice would be appreciated.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

How much should I put in the "net worth" and "Annual Income" sections of my SA profile.

Any advice would be appreciated.

I set both to zero and in all my time on SA I only had one girl question that lack of info. If I have too many SB's on the go and want to drop one I usually plead that moneys tight. Often this will open negotiations again.

If you are genuinely rich then flaunt it otherwise I think the negatives outweigh the positives if you overinflate those numbers

[DeliciousChoomba]

For those of you with active memberships how is your current experience going?

I was reading a sugar baby/daddy forum and generally they're upset that girls on tik Tok have been advertising seeking as a way to get easy money,eg. Talk to some old fool for 5 mins and promise him that he'll get to see your ankle and he'll transfer some money in no time.


My last membership is from a few months ago and even though I have some numbers available quite a few of the girls from them have deleted their profiles, which is annoying because I can't remember what some of them look like, which only tempts me to reactivate my membership and on top of that there are quite a few interesting profiles which further tempts me to reactivate my membership.. Then again I think tnzgit might be the tik Tok effect causing that.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

For those of you with active memberships how is your current experience going?

I was reading a sugar baby/daddy forum and generally they're upset that girls on tik Tok have been advertising seeking as a way to get easy money,eg. Talk to some old fool for 5 mins and promise him that he'll get to see your ankle and he'll transfer some money in no time.


My last membership is from a few months ago and even though I have some numbers available quite a few of the girls from them have deleted their profiles, which is annoying because I can't remember what some of them look like, which only tempts me to reactivate my membership and on top of that there are quite a few interesting profiles which further tempts me to reactivate my membership.. Then again I think tnzgit might be the tik Tok effect causing that.

If money is a concern then my advice is wait until hotels are open again as very few girls can accomodate. When that happens the girls will be gagging for both the sex and the money.

[andrew.michael]

For those of you with active memberships how is your current experience going?

I was reading a sugar baby/daddy forum and generally they're upset that girls on tik Tok have been advertising seeking as a way to get easy money,eg. Talk to some old fool for 5 mins and promise him that he'll get to see your ankle and he'll transfer some money in no time.


My last membership is from a few months ago and even though I have some numbers available quite a few of the girls from them have deleted their profiles, which is annoying because I can't remember what some of them look like, which only tempts me to reactivate my membership and on top of that there are quite a few interesting profiles which further tempts me to reactivate my membership.. Then again I think tnzgit might be the tik Tok effect causing that.

don’t renew membership now (i’d wait till hotels etc are open back up). i personally signed up to get a feel for the process and because i was off during christmas had more time on my hands.

i’ve got quite a few numbers of girls who are only willing to meet up after lockdown (they haven’t asked for online arrangements and what not). so right now i’m just gaming. i’ve done a m&g but i’m not sure about that one. she seems a bit weird and won’t stop texting me.

[l4at]

don’t renew membership now (i’d wait till hotels etc are open back up). i personally signed up to get a feel for the process and because i was off during christmas had more time on my hands.

i’ve got quite a few numbers of girls who are only willing to meet up after lockdown (they haven’t asked for online arrangements and what not). so right now i’m just gaming. i’ve done a m&g but i’m not sure about that one. she seems a bit weird and won’t stop texting me.

You paid for the membership? I’ve signed up but haven’t paid purely because of lockdown. Not sure if I will progress beyond free membership as I am not entirely convinced it’s for me yet (and it’s a lot pricer than just paying for an escort)

[andrew.michael]

You paid for the membership? I’ve signed up but haven’t paid purely because of lockdown. Not sure if I will progress beyond free membership as I am not entirely convinced it’s for me yet (and it’s a lot pricer than just paying for an escort)

yes i did it, it came to £57 at the end which is nothing.

also i don’t think you can put a price on a girl who’s genuinely willing to please you vs an escort who’s been dicked down 6 times that day.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

....i don’t think you can put a price on a girl who’s genuinely willing to please you vs an escort who’s been dicked down 6 times that day.

Yes you can and luckily SA is there to help us find those girls and come up with an appropriate price.

I see escorts, go for sensual massages and in the last five years meet girls off SA. My only regrets are that SA wasn't around 15 years ago and that I don't have more money to spend. Unfortunately I need quantity as well as quality, these days SA provides the quality and escorts and masseuses the quantity.   

[xyfek]

I'm still on the fence with regards to SA, but I won't deny that what I read here has me tempted to give it a go.

I'd like to hear from the veterans on the following: have you ever been with a top GFE escort (say, Ellie Rose or Emily's Creme Brulee) and, if so, how does it compare with your average SA experience? I understand these girls may be several levels above a Romanian P&D, but what is it about them that makes them better than a top escort? Is it just a matter of VFM?

From what you guys write, it seems that more often than not the good experiences come down to mutual attraction. If you think that this is the crucial reason why SA experiences are on another level, then I'm afraid I'll have to pass as sadly there's no way a 6 or 7/10 girl will ever be attracted to me...

[CroPunter]

Did anybody see her?

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[Wowgeek]

I'm still on the fence with regards to SA, but I won't deny that what I read here has me tempted to give it a go.

I'd like to hear from the veterans on the following: have you ever been with a top GFE escort (say, Ellie Rose or Emily's Creme Brulee) and, if so, how does it compare with your average SA experience? I understand these girls may be several levels above a Romanian P&D, but what is it about them that makes them better than a top escort? Is it just a matter of VFM?

From what you guys write, it seems that more often than not the good experiences come down to mutual attraction. If you think that this is the crucial reason why SA experiences are on another level, then I'm afraid I'll have to pass as sadly there's no way a 6 or 7/10 girl will ever be attracted to me...

Firstly, if you think women are attracted to you because of your looks then you don’t know women. It is, without doubt, a truism to say that you can laugh them into bed.

Second, I have been with a number of GFE escorts who can make you feel that you’re the only person in the world, for the time you’re with them, but that’s nowhere near the same as an arrangement ‘girlfriend’. You’re still thinking like a punter, and if you do you won’t have much success on SA. This is about someone who, over time maybe, is likely to do far more than any escort ever would and, if it’s your thing, will spend far longer with you and for much much less.

As they say, you pays your money and you takes your choice.

[Tokidoe]

I'm still on the fence with regards to SA, but I won't deny that what I read here has me tempted to give it a go.

I'd like to hear from the veterans on the following: have you ever been with a top GFE escort (say, Ellie Rose or Emily's Creme Brulee) and, if so, how does it compare with your average SA experience? I understand these girls may be several levels above a Romanian P&D, but what is it about them that makes them better than a top escort? Is it just a matter of VFM?

From what you guys write, it seems that more often than not the good experiences come down to mutual attraction. If you think that this is the crucial reason why SA experiences are on another level, then I'm afraid I'll have to pass as sadly there's no way a 6 or 7/10 girl will ever be attracted to me...

At the end of the day, these girls are looking for money with a ‘mutual benefit’ on top. In my experience on regular dating platforms I rare get hits for girls around my age or younger, but on SA a lot more girls are willing, with some profiles I’ve even seen on Tinder. When money’s involved from the get go they’ll open up to you. From there its all down to your personality I guess. In some cases I’m at a point where one girl I’m speaking to doesn’t even care about the money any more, but thats after a couple of visits.

Cant really compare the companionship that ECB may provide since I don’t really talk too much with her, but if you’re looking for sex there are some girls that have some insane amount of energy.

[Link7]

From what you guys write, it seems that more often than not the good experiences come down to mutual attraction. If you think that this is the crucial reason why SA experiences are on another level, then I'm afraid I'll have to pass as sadly there's no way a 6 or 7/10 girl will ever be attracted to me...

Maybe we need to be careful not to convey that you need to be James Bond to secure meets and have fun on SA. Of course there are good-looking, tall, charismatic etc blokes who will absolutely clean up on SA. But a lot of those guys would most likely clean up on other websites/dating apps too (but these may not suitable if they are married, for example).

But that group definitely isn't 100% of men on SA. There is a reason why the rest of us are using it instead of Tinder  - and there is a reason why the girls are on there instead of other platforms too (hint: to get paid). Being normal, clean and having the correct amount of cash will still take you a long way. It just won't take you all the way - you will need to be able to talk to the (non-pro) girls in order to bed them. Obviously, that's a huge difference from punting where you just walk in off the street with sex guaranteed. The better your social skills and "game" with women are, probably, the better you'll do. That doesn't mean you need to look like David Beckham to have any joy. My understanding is that quite a few lads contributing on this thread do not use or share pictures of themselves with SA girls at all. 

[xyfek]

Firstly, if you think women are attracted to you because of your looks then you don’t know women. It is, without doubt, a truism to say that you can laugh them into bed.

Second, I have been with a number of GFE escorts who can make you feel that you’re the only person in the world, for the time you’re with them, but that’s nowhere near the same as an arrangement ‘girlfriend’. You’re still thinking like a punter, and if you do you won’t have much success on SA. This is about someone who, over time maybe, is likely to do far more than any escort ever would and, if it’s your thing, will spend far longer with you and for much much less.

As they say, you pays your money and you takes your choice.

I'll never understand women, that's for sure! I understand what you're saying about attraction, but surely looks also play a part. And a big one at that. I'm laid back and generally fun to be around, yet I can count on one hand the number of civvies who gave me more than a first date.

I suppose money would be a good reason to keep them interested, if that's what they're after, but I doubt that's enough to get the apparently genuine connections some of you describe. Which is precisely why I'm asking about this.

It's not unheard of to get more than you pay for with regulars, especially if you get along well. I've had this in the past and, although nice, it doesn't feel any more "real" to me, unlike some of the experiences I've read here. It could be that my perception is off, but would you say that this is what can be expected from an SA girl? I.e., a "real" GFE? Or are they no different than a regular who takes good care of you?

[xyfek]

At the end of the day, these girls are looking for money with a ‘mutual benefit’ on top. In my experience on regular dating platforms I rare get hits for girls around my age or younger, but on SA a lot more girls are willing, with some profiles I’ve even seen on Tinder. When money’s involved from the get go they’ll open up to you. From there its all down to your personality I guess. In some cases I’m at a point where one girl I’m speaking to doesn’t even care about the money any more, but thats after a couple of visits.

Cant really compare the companionship that ECB may provide since I don’t really talk too much with her, but if you’re looking for sex there are some girls that have some insane amount of energy.

I'd like to have more than sex. Companionship, yes, but most importantly real intimacy. Think dinner dates and sex/possibly overnights with someone who actually wants to be there. I feel like even top GFE providers hold back because of a lack of attraction, and I fear it will be the same on SA. They're all human after all.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

I'd like to have more than sex. Companionship, yes, but most importantly real intimacy. Think dinner dates and sex/possibly overnights with someone who actually wants to be there. I feel like even top GFE providers hold back because of a lack of attraction, and I fear it will be the same on SA. They're all human after all.

With an escort it is a job and all their income comes from appointments.
An SA girl will most likely have a regular full time job and the dinner date will be their escape from reality. In general you are much more likely to have a connection with an SA date.

Another point to remember is that with an SA girl you will have had the opportunity of having lots of message exchange and should already know if you share common interests etc. An escort would not like it if you asked the same number of questions prior to a meet.

[lusine99]

The amount of girls using SA for online only due to covid is astonishing. They are basically camgirls. I've been on SA for about 6 months. Had quite a few meets. Two girls who were not like their pics. Two girls who just used for free meals and drinks. Two amazing girls who I saw for two weeks each who I really did t end up paying for but liked me and were unsure about what they were doing. Super hot tho. At the moment there are either hot girls with unrealistic expectations money wise. Girls using covid as an excuse to sell videos for hundreds of pounds with the promise of meeting after. And ppm girls ranging between 200 to 600 pounds a meet. So many fakers, scammers and generally unpleasant characters on there. A real eye opener. My expectations were unrealistic going in. I just got divorced and desperately wanted a hit young girl for approval. Now I'm down for ppm meets. Basically high end escorts.

[HomerC]

yes i did it, it came to £57 at the end which is nothing.

also i don’t think you can put a price on a girl who’s genuinely willing to please you vs an escort who’s been dicked down 6 times that day.

Remember prices went up £10 on New Years so it's now £67 per month or £95 per month at full price.

[HomerC]

The amount of girls using SA for online only due to covid is astonishing. They are basically camgirls. I've been on SA for about 6 months. Had quite a few meets. Two girls who were not like their pics. Two girls who just used for free meals and drinks. Two amazing girls who I saw for two weeks each who I really did t end up paying for but liked me and were unsure about what they were doing. Super hot tho. At the moment there are either hot girls with unrealistic expectations money wise. Girls using covid as an excuse to sell videos for hundreds of pounds with the promise of meeting after. And ppm girls ranging between 200 to 600 pounds a meet. So many fakers, scammers and generally unpleasant characters on there. A real eye opener. My expectations were unrealistic going in. I just got divorced and desperately wanted a hit young girl for approval. Now I'm down for ppm meets. Basically high end escorts.

It's exhausting and dispiriting. If only there was shared list of scammers / online only / picture sellers so that we wouldn't have to waste our time.

Some crafty ones even claim to be up for meeting, so you exchange numbers, and only weeks later they reveal themselves to be beggars or picture sellers.

[mrflash]

The amount of girls using SA for online only due to covid is astonishing. They are basically camgirls. I've been on SA for about 6 months. Had quite a few meets. Two girls who were not like their pics. Two girls who just used for free meals and drinks. Two amazing girls who I saw for two weeks each who I really did t end up paying for but liked me and were unsure about what they were doing. Super hot tho. At the moment there are either hot girls with unrealistic expectations money wise. Girls using covid as an excuse to sell videos for hundreds of pounds with the promise of meeting after. And ppm girls ranging between 200 to 600 pounds a meet. So many fakers, scammers and generally unpleasant characters on there. A real eye opener. My expectations were unrealistic going in. I just got divorced and desperately wanted a hit young girl for approval. Now I'm down for ppm meets. Basically high end escorts.

Not sure how ppm meets translate to high end escorts. There are plenty of posts above describing subtle differences between SA and escorts. All of them apply for ppm meets too. If ppm meets are a problem, what other kind of arrangement are you looking for?

[bbz123]

I haven't found that they all quote 500+ at all    I think I've been quoted above this(700 ppm) only once - and I truly thought she was having a laugh. And it's not as if I target munters! 

Haha ok true that was defo a generalisation - the model 9-10/10 chicks tend to quote around that much. Other girls it varies a lot for sure, some girls won’t even mention a price and let you pay what you want but that is defo less common I’ve found. Building a rapport definitely helps too.

[martini2429]

It's exhausting and dispiriting. If only there was shared list of scammers / online only / picture sellers so that we wouldn't have to waste our time.

Some crafty ones even claim to be up for meeting, so you exchange numbers, and only weeks later they reveal themselves to be beggars or picture sellers.

The open seeking threads were done for that very reason, share away 

 

[lusine99]

Not sure how ppm meets translate to high end escorts. There are plenty of posts above describing subtle differences between SA and escorts. All of them apply for ppm meets too. If ppm meets are a problem, what other kind of arrangement are you looking for?

No. I meant the ppm are usually quite high. Starting at 300.

[HomerC]

The open seeking threads were done for that very reason, share away 

 

What do you mean? This thread is only visible to UKP members?

[martini2429]

What do you mean? This thread is only visible to UKP members?

I may be wrong but anyone coming onto this site can view it

I was actually meaning share your scammers etc for other UKP Members who use seeking