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[mrflash]

Wondering what people generally do with their profiles once the premium membership ends..
Last time I had deleted my profile...

I deactivate my profile. I don't delete it. I have a bunch of WhatsApp contacts I am sure I will be happy with, for the next 6 months. In my profile, I have blocked/bookmarked so many profiles after chatting with them. I don't want to lose all the information when I go back on seeking.

[Hantsolo]

I deactivate my profile. I don't delete it. I have a bunch of WhatsApp contacts I am sure I will be happy with, for the next 6 months. In my profile, I have blocked/bookmarked so many profiles after chatting with them. I don't want to lose all the information when I go back on seeking.

Exactly the same. My blocked list is huge! While its tempting to open new profiles for a potential discount, there is also the risk of wasting time on someone you've already blocked etc

[londonhunter008]

I deactivate my profile. I don't delete it. I have a bunch of WhatsApp contacts I am sure I will be happy with, for the next 6 months. In my profile, I have blocked/bookmarked so many profiles after chatting with them. I don't want to lose all the information when I go back on seeking.

Same here. I also keep Whatsapp chats which is built over few years now. Many SBs create new profile once they realize they are reported by many members, but numbers are not changed often. It takes bit of effort initially (Can be fun...depends on how you take it) but with time you can read profile description and exchange few messages and understand what SB is looking for.
I have not met an Escort / Pro SB for 3 years now. Meeting a SB seems more expensive, but the time spent and amazing GFE without any complication outweighs it. I prefer to have 2-3 meets in a month rather than meeting many Escort. Its also safer to avoid any STD.
I stay in touch with 3-4 SBs at a time and keep meeting at a regular gap and stay in touch in between as long it works for both. If I dont fancy anyone(if she is find someone better with less PPM or any other reason) or she is too busy then I take a break (but always in a positive way)...it has happened many when again want to meet SB you met in past and since she trust you more than any one new, its easy for her to meet you again. 

I have met few girls who did not want money (I was able to charm them and they were naive to just wanted help or gifts sometimes but because of person family reasons wanted someone to take out and have some fun ).
On avg.. I pay 200-250 per meet (and it can be whole evening or overnight. I dont meet a girl who starts bargain for the hours unless she has genuine reason).
Max I have payed was 500 (for someone who is exceptionally beautiful and I cant meet otherwise in normal life even I try to impress her forever . Anyone asking over 500...such as 600, 700 etc will always settle for 500. )

Though the experience was never directly related to money payed. Its ONLY depends on how good girls feel with you.

Below are basic things which has helped me a lot
- Always book 4 or 5 start nice hotel (SB does not know much about you but taking her to nice places shows that you can afford and she want to meet you again. She must percive you as a genuine and potential long term SD). Dayuse site or Hilton hotel can be booked for few hours and cost less. Weekday nights cost less than weekends etc.
-Try to be fit, dress nicely, smell good and take care of your hygiene. When you are in bed its all about physical chemistry...money cant buy it.
- Always keep you story same with all SBs....show that you are very settled and independent. No one actually wants to know you...they just want to judge if you are good enough to afford on long term basis. Add Instagram(keep it private) to your putting number and put few but good pictures to reflect your good life. I have added all social media profile (but other than Insta rest all are blank). These check your added contacts and suggest you if some of your SB contact is there. Help to verify.

[Link7]

Just an update, I saw this girl last week

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I am still recovering from the meet, she has mad chebs (F Cup) and is a shagaholic. We went at it straight for 4 hours, she has incredible stamina.

Can't comment on whether she does BB, but agree with others that she likely gets about. Messaged me first and was all over a meet. Didn't really fancy the photos so stopped replying 

[Link7]

To get a freebie or a cheapie you have to find the girl’s other motivations and play on those. For most girls on SA money is the most important thing but there are others were they are really looking for something else.

Granted, I have seen a few profiles which expressly state that they are not looking for ppm or allowance, and/or will forgo this for business advice/mentoring.

In particular, seen some finance students wanting only to be taught technical skills.

[HomerC]

My first PPM with the potential 19 year old SB was last night!

But guess what...  she flaked.

We were WhatsApp messaging until late at night. She sent me messages and voice notes as she was getting ready, before she went in the bath, etc. She planned out her route, she was going to meet me at a station near the hotel. But at around 11pm-midnight she texted me to say her sister was taken to hospital. She clearly got cold feet.

I thought something was odd when she declined to do a meet & greet a few days earlier. (She did attempt a video call with me & sent me a video message, so I know she's a real person, and she matches her pics.) I don't have my photo on Seeking, nor did I send her my pic at any point. Perhaps this would have helped?  Perhaps not.

I actually still enjoyed the evening - it was super relaxing! obviously I would have enjoyed it more if she had turned up. I have been seeing a mid 30s SB and I must admit I crave someone who isn't over-the-hill. My "old" SB has a nice personality  But I want extremely beautiful and young, not just average.

I thought I would have been annoyed, but I was only mildly disappointed. I got to keep £200 (but still lost £100 on the hotel room obviously).

I won't book a PPM again without doing M&G first.
 

[Bikerboy]

My first PPM with the potential 19 year old SB was last night!

But guess what...  she flaked.

We were WhatsApp messaging until late at night. She sent me messages and voice notes as she was getting ready, before she went in the bath, etc. She planned out her route, she was going to meet me at a station near the hotel. But at around 11pm-midnight she texted me to say her sister was taken to hospital. She clearly got cold feet.

I thought something was odd when she declined to do a meet & greet a few days earlier. (She did attempt a video call with me & sent me a video message, so I know she's a real person, and she matches her pics.) I don't have my photo on Seeking, nor did I send her my pic at any point. Perhaps this would have helped?  Perhaps not.

I actually still enjoyed the evening - it was super relaxing! obviously I would have enjoyed it more if she had turned up. I have been seeing a mid 30s SB and I must admit I crave someone who isn't over-the-hill. My "old" SB has a nice personality  But I want extremely beautiful and young, not just average.

I thought I would have been annoyed, but I was only mildly disappointed. I got to keep £200 (but still lost £100 on the hotel room obviously).

I won't book a PPM again without doing M&G first.

Should rename this thread ‘frustration’
Flakes/scams/pros at an all time high and those who would usually meet scared by Hancock’s half hour 😂

[HomerC]

Should rename this thread ‘frustration’
Flakes/scams/pros at an all time high and those who would usually meet scared by Hancock’s half hour 😂

I had to look this up - it's a radio show. I thought it was something to do with Matt Hancock's restrictions.

London is in Tier 4 lockdown, so I did coach her to say her visit was "work related", in the event she was questioned by reception.

It would have been worse if she had turned up, and then the hotel said "sorry no visitors due to Tier 4".

[Cunning Punt]

Nah, they want your money. They are sleeping with 50 yo men for it and so on and they will remind you when you don't pay.

Other men can pay more and sometimes they will cancel you when it's right for them.

If you're speaking from experience and have only found money-grabbers who can flake on you for a higher offer then that's a reflection of girls you are picking and your own approach, not all girls on SA.

Most do want your money yes, but money is not the sole overriding motivation for many SBs, and a few aren't fussed about money at all.

For most girls on SA money is the most important thing but there are others were they are really looking for something else. Even with the money orientated girls you can get a cheaper rate if your chat up and negotiation skills are good.
Many of the girls feel isolated and if you can gain their trust then they are more likely to fuck for free.

Exactly. Perfectly put.

[Cunning Punt]

My first PPM with the potential 19 year old SB was last night!

But guess what...  she flaked.

We were WhatsApp messaging until late at night. She sent me messages and voice notes as she was getting ready, before she went in the bath, etc. She planned out her route, she was going to meet me at a station near the hotel. But at around 11pm-midnight she texted me to say her sister was taken to hospital. She clearly got cold feet.

I thought something was odd when she declined to do a meet & greet a few days earlier. (She did attempt a video call with me & sent me a video message, so I know she's a real person, and she matches her pics.) I don't have my photo on Seeking, nor did I send her my pic at any point. Perhaps this would have helped?  Perhaps not.

I actually still enjoyed the evening - it was super relaxing! obviously I would have enjoyed it more if she had turned up. I have been seeing a mid 30s SB and I must admit I crave someone who isn't over-the-hill. My "old" SB has a nice personality  But I want extremely beautiful and young, not just average.

I thought I would have been annoyed, but I was only mildly disappointed. I got to keep £200 (but still lost £100 on the hotel room obviously).

I won't book a PPM again without doing M&G first.

Yes, sharing photos would have probably helped and having a M&G first certainly would as you would have built up a rapport/chemistry (or not). If she hasn't met you or even seen what you look like then you're a distant person who it's easier to dismiss and cancel on. Establish a rapport then she's more comfortable with you and less likely to get cold feet, as she likes you and doesn't want to bail and let you down.

So I agree sharing a photo and then a M&G is the best way forward.

On hotels, yes it's an issue as some are cracking down, others not. Perhaps try Air BnB or apartments where there is remote check-in and no on-site staff.

[Bikerboy]

I had to look this up - it's a radio show. I thought it was something to do with Matt Hancock's restrictions.

London is in Tier 4 lockdown, so I did coach her to say her visit was "work related", in the event she was questioned by reception.

It would have been worse if she had turned up, and then the hotel said "sorry no visitors due to Tier 4".

😂 Hancock’s half hour episode...the one he donates blood(nee drama queen Hancock health sec )..you may be too young!
Sure good prep you gave there. but the seeking hard game got harder in 2020...

[kevker]

Has anyone got info on

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I'm not actually active on SA at the moment, but my account isnt deactivated. I get favourited by her at least twice a week, wonder what everyones take is on it? shes been a member for quite a qhile as well.

[Flush]

Hey gents any info the following:

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I want to meet up with her soon.

[mrflash]

Same here. I also keep Whatsapp chats which is built over few years now. Many SBs create new profile once they realize they are reported by many members, but numbers are not changed often. It takes bit of effort initially (Can be fun...depends on how you take it) but with time you can read profile description and exchange few messages and understand what SB is looking for.
I have not met an Escort / Pro SB for 3 years now. Meeting a SB seems more expensive, but the time spent and amazing GFE without any complication outweighs it. I prefer to have 2-3 meets in a month rather than meeting many Escort. Its also safer to avoid any STD.
I stay in touch with 3-4 SBs at a time and keep meeting at a regular gap and stay in touch in between as long it works for both. If I dont fancy anyone(if she is find someone better with less PPM or any other reason) or she is too busy then I take a break (but always in a positive way)...it has happened many when again want to meet SB you met in past and since she trust you more than any one new, its easy for her to meet you again. 

I have met few girls who did not want money (I was able to charm them and they were naive to just wanted help or gifts sometimes but because of person family reasons wanted someone to take out and have some fun ).
On avg.. I pay 200-250 per meet (and it can be whole evening or overnight. I dont meet a girl who starts bargain for the hours unless she has genuine reason).
Max I have payed was 500 (for someone who is exceptionally beautiful and I cant meet otherwise in normal life even I try to impress her forever . Anyone asking over 500...such as 600, 700 etc will always settle for 500. )

Though the experience was never directly related to money payed. Its ONLY depends on how good girls feel with you.

Below are basic things which has helped me a lot
- Always book 4 or 5 start nice hotel (SB does not know much about you but taking her to nice places shows that you can afford and she want to meet you again. She must percive you as a genuine and potential long term SD). Dayuse site or Hilton hotel can be booked for few hours and cost less. Weekday nights cost less than weekends etc.
-Try to be fit, dress nicely, smell good and take care of your hygiene. When you are in bed its all about physical chemistry...money cant buy it.
- Always keep you story same with all SBs....show that you are very settled and independent. No one actually wants to know you...they just want to judge if you are good enough to afford on long term basis. Add Instagram(keep it private) to your putting number and put few but good pictures to reflect your good life. I have added all social media profile (but other than Insta rest all are blank). These check your added contacts and suggest you if some of your SB contact is there. Help to verify.

All exceptional points. I completely agree with them all except the point about STD's. I have seen stats showing rate of spread of STD's among escorts being lower than that of civs, reason being escorts are more careful and follow safe sex practices regularly compared to other women.

[HomerC]

Has anyone got info on

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I'm not actually active on SA at the moment, but my account isnt deactivated. I get favourited by her at least twice a week, wonder what everyones take is on it? shes been a member for quite a qhile as well.

She says NO PPM. I'm not ever going to just give a girl an allowance. That takes time and trust. It' so unreasonable to say no PPM IMHO

[HomerC]

Same here. I also keep Whatsapp chats which is built over few years now. Many SBs create new profile once they realize they are reported by many members, but numbers are not changed often. It takes bit of effort initially (Can be fun...depends on how you take it) but with time you can read profile description and exchange few messages and understand what SB is looking for.
I have not met an Escort / Pro SB for 3 years now. Meeting a SB seems more expensive, but the time spent and amazing GFE without any complication outweighs it. I prefer to have 2-3 meets in a month rather than meeting many Escort. Its also safer to avoid any STD.
I stay in touch with 3-4 SBs at a time and keep meeting at a regular gap and stay in touch in between as long it works for both. If I dont fancy anyone(if she is find someone better with less PPM or any other reason) or she is too busy then I take a break (but always in a positive way)...it has happened many when again want to meet SB you met in past and since she trust you more than any one new, its easy for her to meet you again. 

I have met few girls who did not want money (I was able to charm them and they were naive to just wanted help or gifts sometimes but because of person family reasons wanted someone to take out and have some fun ).
On avg.. I pay 200-250 per meet (and it can be whole evening or overnight. I dont meet a girl who starts bargain for the hours unless she has genuine reason).
Max I have payed was 500 (for someone who is exceptionally beautiful and I cant meet otherwise in normal life even I try to impress her forever . Anyone asking over 500...such as 600, 700 etc will always settle for 500. )

Though the experience was never directly related to money payed. Its ONLY depends on how good girls feel with you.

Below are basic things which has helped me a lot
- Always book 4 or 5 start nice hotel (SB does not know much about you but taking her to nice places shows that you can afford and she want to meet you again. She must percive you as a genuine and potential long term SD). Dayuse site or Hilton hotel can be booked for few hours and cost less. Weekday nights cost less than weekends etc.
-Try to be fit, dress nicely, smell good and take care of your hygiene. When you are in bed its all about physical chemistry...money cant buy it.
- Always keep you story same with all SBs....show that you are very settled and independent. No one actually wants to know you...they just want to judge if you are good enough to afford on long term basis. Add Instagram(keep it private) to your putting number and put few but good pictures to reflect your good life. I have added all social media profile (but other than Insta rest all are blank). These check your added contacts and suggest you if some of your SB contact is there. Help to verify.

Wait, so you have a dedicated Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, Twitter & Linked In account just for punting? And these are linked to your punting phone number?

And all of these, apart from your Instagram, are blank?

What does this achieve? Does it make your Seeking profile look more legit? (You get badges if you link social accounts. Does that help?)

(Your punting FB could be linked to your real FB "thanks to" FB's "people you may know" thing. Just be aware.)

Is the strategy here for the sugar baby to discover your (sock) accounts using the social apps on her phone?

[SpaceRaiderDave]

I get favourited by her at least twice a week, wonder what everyones take is on it? shes been a member for quite a qhile as well.

Don't read anything into being favourited. It's a numbers game, rather than send messges many of the dedicated SA girls do a search in their area and favourite all the men as a way of attracting messages. It lots of the ocassions they won't even have looked at your profile but just favourit you from the search results.

[londonhunter008]

Wait, so you have a dedicated Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, Twitter & Linked In account just for punting? And these are linked to your punting phone number?

And all of these, apart from your Instagram, are blank?

What does this achieve? Does it make your Seeking profile look more legit? (You get badges if you link social accounts. Does that help?)

(Your punting FB could be linked to your real FB "thanks to" FB's "people you may know" thing. Just be aware.)

Is the strategy here for the sugar baby to discover your (sock) accounts using the social apps on her phone?

It helps to find social media profile of SBs connected to same number. Also you can use your Instagram (fake one..not actually fake but created for a purpose) to verify you on SA site. A premium SD with verified profile will attract more girls.
Most of the Pro SB want more and more followers on Instagram and keep profile open and often onlyfans page etc attached to them. Other non Pro have basic profile (private, less number of post  and limited friends and often mention about the actual profession). You dont need to add them on social media but it helps to verify before meeting.
FB and Twitter are all fake and blank profiles. I do not keep any social media profile in real life...so no chance for them to find real friends. A normal girl will never try to trouble you...they have better things to do in life.  Its the pro SBs (they will anyway be busy to meet as many men as possible so less risk unless you trouble anyone) .
We all need to be CAREFUL from fake men pretend to be girl and may ask you money once they get hold of your personal information (happened to me once but I knew what he is saying is bluff...but I learnt my lesson). Very sexy pictures and brief profile  on SA profile and in rush to exchange number without asking you anything online...is always a RED FLAG. Why should a girl get your number in rush? Even a Pro SB will ask about allowance before sharing number.
 
I do not share too many pics or personal information until I find enough about SB online or meet in person.

Actually, it doesn't take a lot to filter out right girls if your preference is to meet right genuine girl over a young girl for PPM and only criteria is to find cheapest one possible.

[Jpmcgee]

The laws of supply and demand are such that if you want to fuck a girl on a nsa basis you have to give them something, praise & adulation, security, mentorship, friendship, orgasms, money etc etc. To get a freebie or a cheapie you have to find the girl’s other motivations and play on those. For most girls on SA money is the most important thing but there are others were they are really looking for something else. Even with the money orientated girls you can get a cheaper rate if your chat up and negotiation skills are good. I set myself a low budget of £100 to £175 per meet but don’t reveal the amount until as late as possible. It’s a time consuming process with lots of rejections but I’ve had the same strategy for so long I can copy/paste lots of messages. Plenty of the girls I contact claim they are looking for mentorship which is a pretty vague term and can allow me to offer to give advice on a wide range of subjects if they meet me. Many of the girls feel isolated and if you can gain their trust then they are more likely to fuck for free.  TBH I always pay for the first meet but will look for an appropriate moment to reduce or eliminate the amount. If she is good and the rate is already low I continue at that level but if she is say £150 I might put forward the suggestion I could only continue at say £100 or if it feels right even lower.

I also play the long game. When I first contact a girl It will be at a time she is active on SA so probably has lot’s of choice. Unless they are a complete waste of time I try and leave on good terms with the one night stands and after say six months will contact them again. Maybe a random “How are things?” or under the guise of Birthday greetings or Merry Christmas. This tactic has renewed a couple of relationships with the only cost to me being the hotel room.

There is no magic formulae as everyone is different and you have to react to what info you are given.         

Good post re Freebies. Success is there to be had. I agree there may not be a magic formulae but from my perspective there is defo an approach that will give you a higher success rate:

- mindset of the dating platform and intended use
- good profile
- dominant
- selecting the right profiles to message
- emotional intelligence and game

As OP says the flake rate can be higher and so will the required investment but the rewards exceed that.

I don’t really have much of a positive view on converting a ppm girl to freebie.. I see that as trying to convert being from the friend zone into something else so prefer a direct no allowance straight from the bat.

I’ve written a much longer post on my musings before somewhere on this forum

[kevker]

Don't read anything into being favourited. It's a numbers game, rather than send messges many of the dedicated SA girls do a search in their area and favourite all the men as a way of attracting messages. It lots of the ocassions they won't even have looked at your profile but just favourit you from the search results.

I never do read anything into be favd. However, wouldn't it show up that she's favourited me already?

[SpaceRaiderDave]

I never do read anything into be favd. However, wouldn't it show up that she's favourited me already?

Yes on the left hand side of the screen everyone can see details of the previous interaction they've had with a particular member so if she looked she'd see she favourited you before. As I've said though for the girls its a numbers game and all they are doing is trying to get guys to reply. IMHO the offer you'll get by replying after being favourited will be exactly the same if you had contacted them direct without ever being favourited.

[Convince Me]

I thought I would have been annoyed, but I was only mildly disappointed. I got to keep £200 (but still lost £100 on the hotel room obviously).

I won't book a PPM again without doing M&G first.

Why not get an an outcall escort?

[HomerC]

Why not get an an outcall escort?

Because i want 3 hours with a 19-year-old for £200

[HomerC]

update - she has now agreed to do a platonic meet & greet - to get a coffee

[Link7]

On avg.. I pay 200-250 per meet (and it can be whole evening or overnight. I dont meet a girl who starts bargain for the hours unless she has genuine reason).
Max I have payed was 500

Always book 4 or 5 start nice hotel (SB does not know much about you but taking her to nice places shows that you can afford and she want to meet you again. She must percive you as a genuine and potential long term SD).

No one actually wants to know you...they just want to judge if you are good enough to afford on long term basis. Add Instagram(keep it private) to your putting number and put few but good pictures to reflect your good life.

Thanks for this lh08 

Re. the importance of conveying that you're a high roller - completely understand why this works (and it's well documented already that SA is by no means cheap). But have you found this approach problematic in the long run, as you are then expected to sustain a level of spending which is consistent with the expensive first meet/"good life" insta photos?

Assuming ppm in the range of 200-500, plus c.150 for a top hotel, plus let's say, at least another 150 for meal + wine/cabs/more drinks after/room service (assuming central ldn, and that you can't exactly take her to pizza express). Then it strikes me, to do this even 2 times a month, the most conservative estimate requires a budget of £1k.

Long way of asking: when you say the girl needs to feel you can afford this long term - don't you actually need to be able to afford it long term? Otherwise, you're just taking her out on a super expensive date that you probably can't repeat. And if you're probably not going to be repeating it, does that not then undermine the logic of spending quite so much to convince her you're loaded?

[Link7]

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Arya of diva. No idea if she'll meet for any less than the agency price (but it wouldn't surprise me if she would, because diva take the absolute piss*). Didn't make the cut after photo swap - good luck to the better looking lads amongst you.

*I would never pay £300 for an EE in London. It's unnecessary. Can and have slept with EE stunners for a fraction of the cost in mainland Europe.

[DeliciousChoomba]

It’s not really sensible to share information like this on a public and visible  thread.

Yep this is the way that I look at it too.

Whenever I've set a date with an SB we've had a good conversation, dinner and sex through out the evening and sometimes the next morning too. An escort might be willing to offer the same service but it would be soooo expensive.


Like someone else said SA is the right blend between escorting and an app like tinder, not to mention that some of the women on SA are far better looking than some escorts.

[DeliciousChoomba]

Chatting with this SB on WA, seems cool and genuine. Any intel about her is appreciated 

Lollipopland
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Did you ever find out more about her/meet up with her?

[jamiekinkxxx]

My exp is a but 'hit n miss' with SA.

First Membership(circa 2018): shite, never met anyone.
Second Membership (Dec'19 to Mar'20): much better:
- Met a lovely Romanian girl (doing a MBA) start of last year (circa Feb) met up for drinks and she snogged my face off towards the end. Met up a couple of time after that for circa £300 for 4-ish hours (incl drinks time). Felt really natural, not like a WG meet. COVID then really put the spanner in the works. I left SA (but met French girl just before I did see below) and so did she but we never met again, although did try. Not sure we'll meet up again... moment kind of passed
- Met a French girl who was over to escape French lockdown (UK was more open at that point). She was staying in an AirBNB in Soho.... pocket rocket. Could have stayed as long as I wanted but had to leave as already arranged to meet a friend. Happy for me to PayPal her the money after I left too! Think she was def a sex addict. Filth, submissive and loved it up her
Third Membership (circa Sep'20): Almost scammed
- Left after about 2 days of signing up after potential scam! Taught me the hard way what to give out to SA girls and what not to before you've actually met.

[londonhunter008]

Thanks for this lh08 

Re. the importance of conveying that you're a high roller - completely understand why this works (and it's well documented already that SA is by no means cheap). But have you found this approach problematic in the long run, as you are then expected to sustain a level of spending which is consistent with the expensive first meet/"good life" insta photos?

Assuming ppm in the range of 200-500, plus c.150 for a top hotel, plus let's say, at least another 150 for meal + wine/cabs/more drinks after/room service (assuming central ldn, and that you can't exactly take her to pizza express). Then it strikes me, to do this even 2 times a month, the most conservative estimate requires a budget of £1k.

Long way of asking: when you say the girl needs to feel you can afford this long term - don't you actually need to be able to afford it long term? Otherwise, you're just taking her out on a super expensive date that you probably can't repeat. And if you're probably not going to be repeating it, does that not then undermine the logic of spending quite so much to convince her you're loaded?

You are right. It is expensive. Its all about management.
You can get a good girl for 200-250 per meet very easily and booking a hotel (100 plus 50 extra on top)...so roughly 350-400 per meet. But spending 5-6 hours or over night by spending 400 on a SB makes more sense to me than 150-200 for an hour on a well reviewed escort. It takes time and you should not rush. Meet a girl only if it makes sense to you to spend that much money. At least with SB you can chat, talk, call or even video call before meet (if you want to save money on first casual meet. Many will be willing to meet straight away if they feel comfortable enough).
I did try to quit is few times but meeting an escort never fulfilled the need. So it is addicted.
What you can do is to meet a well reviewed escort from HOD for half an hour and spend 70 and then save the money to meet a SB later. One SB meet in a month or one is two months. Just dont waste on Escorts. If you plan properly...a SB meet can be managed within 350 (200 for SB, less that 100 for 4 star hotels...try DayUse and pick 4 start hotels around London on weekdays and you will get many options. After first meet, SB will be happy to walk straight in room and you buy wine etc before hand and keep it read...buy a nice wine and request hotel to provide you ice bucket with two wine glasses...will make a 10 pound wine super expensive...and even a room service doesn't cost more than 20-30 pound).

There are other added advantages. I exercise more regularly, drink less alcohol at home and try to work harder to get extra bonuses. There are girls for spicy messages to keep days exciting (specially during lockdown) or to sex chat at night if she really like you.
I do not take my SB for granted and try my best to give her good time (and it doesn't mean only spending money)...and make sure she does the same and keep me excited for every meet. Its simple...she needs to make sure I don't plan to meet her...but I cant be without meeting her. And she will know what to do between meets . For regular I send small gift in between...and I get value for my money ...specially during lockdown

[londonhunter008]

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Arya of diva. No idea if she'll meet for any less than the agency price (but it wouldn't surprise me if she would, because diva take the absolute piss*). Didn't make the cut after photo swap - good luck to the better looking lads amongst you.

*I would never pay £300 for an EE in London. It's unnecessary. Can and have slept with EE stunners for a fraction of the cost in mainland Europe.

If she is an escort than she is on SA to find men who can pay her more than agency price or to find men because may be because of covid she is not getting enough clients. Her join date is Sep20. The way an escort perceive  Seeking arrangement is different than a normal girl. SA site is not the right way to meet an escort.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

If she is an escort than she is on SA to find men who can pay her more than agency price or to find men because may be because of covid she is not getting enough clients. Her join date is Sep20. The way an escort perceive  Seeking arrangement is different than a normal girl. SA site is not the right way to meet an escort.

Not necessarily so. Some girls just look at SA as another income stream and will accept less money. The one thing I've found about SA is the wide variety of motives so best not make assumptions. The same girl can have different money expectations depending on how the online conversation goes

[Cunning Punt]

Re. the importance of conveying that you're a high roller - completely understand why this works (and it's well documented already that SA is by no means cheap). But have you found this approach problematic in the long run, as you are then expected to sustain a level of spending which is consistent with the expensive first meet/"good life" insta photos?

Assuming ppm in the range of 200-500, plus c.150 for a top hotel, plus let's say, at least another 150 for meal + wine/cabs/more drinks after/room service (assuming central ldn, and that you can't exactly take her to pizza express). Then it strikes me, to do this even 2 times a month, the most conservative estimate requires a budget of £1k.

You are right to ask what is the point of giving the impression you can offer something high rolling on a regular, long-term basis to a girl who you want a long-term arrangement with, if you just can't sustain it. It maybe after meeting you a couple of times, she just enjoys the sex and your company so much that she is subsequently happy with staying in a Premier Inn, dining out at Pizza Express, drinking at Weatherspoon's or even settling for a lower ppm, but probably not - particularly many London girls. 

There is also a moral issue of misleading girls into expecting something that's not going to keep happening. Personally, I like being honest and upfront about what I can/cannot provide because, by the same token, I don't like people misleading me.

However, if she is comfortable with short term or only one meet a month then that's fine.

Like with anything, work out what you can afford, what all the various costs will be and plan accordingly, sticking to your budget.

As LH suggests, it's better to have a small number of excellent meets for a few hours with SA girls and an occasional 30min punt to satisfy your urges inbetween, as opposed to many average or unsastifactory 1hr visits to WGs.

[Marcom1lano]

So a basic question... is the key to SA to get a premium membership or as a normal free member does fun normally happen?

Part of the fun for me is the chase hence investing time on certain people is of interest as the reward can be multi hours of fun.

Have read the back story here but still no wiser to my question above. Thank you.

[martini2429]

So a basic question... is the key to SA to get a premium membership or as a normal free member does fun normally happen?

Part of the fun for me is the chase hence investing time on certain people is of interest as the reward can be multi hours of fun.

Have read the back story here but still no wiser to my question above. Thank you.

Unfortunately you are unable to send or read messages as a normal free member, therefore you will be unable to arrange/have any meets 

 

[Marcom1lano]

Cheers Martini

[mrflash]

One question. You get one month membership. By the end you get contacts of 7/8 SB's. How do you go about meeting them? Say you meet your favourite profile first. If you like that person, do you decide to not meet others? Or do you just go ahead and still meet others? Given budget limitations, it might take awhile to come back to the first SB if you are meeting others. Do you make any excuse to the first SB? I know this is subjective and some people may want to enjoy with one SB over a period of time.

In short, how many regular SB's do you have at the same time? If there are multiple, how many do you meet in a month? Do you tell them that you actually meet multiple SB's and that's the reason why there are long gaps between meets?

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Unfortunately you are unable to send or read messages as a normal free member, therefore you will be unable to arrange/have any meets 
 

My tactics are to get a one month premium membership and then cancel it as soon as it runs out. I will do this every 6 or so months and during my 4 weeks membership i usually can find 1 or 2 girls that can become regulars for a few months but if not I will build up a list of contacts that I can feed off if needed.

[Bobbins1973]

One question. You get one month membership. By the end you get contacts of 7/8 SB's. How do you go about meeting them? Say you meet your favourite profile first. If you like that person, do you decide to not meet others? Or do you just go ahead and still meet others? Given budget limitations, it might take awhile to come back to the first SB if you are meeting others. Do you make any excuse to the first SB? I know this is subjective and some people may want to enjoy with one SB over a period of time.

In short, how many regular SB's do you have at the same time? If there are multiple, how many do you meet in a month? Do you tell them that you actually meet multiple SB's and that's the reason why there are long gaps between meets?

Easiest answer is to try and have 2 or 3 M&G in same day - just space out over few hours, drinks and see how it goes - if goes very well just cancel one of the others with a shit 💩 excuse but realise you may not get chance again

[londonhunter008]

You are right to ask what is the point of giving the impression you can offer something high rolling on a regular, long-term basis to a girl who you want a long-term arrangement with, if you just can't sustain it. It maybe after meeting you a couple of times, she just enjoys the sex and your company so much that she is subsequently happy with staying in a Premier Inn, dining out at Pizza Express, drinking at Weatherspoon's or even settling for a lower ppm, but probably not - particularly many London girls. 

There is also a moral issue of misleading girls into expecting something that's not going to keep happening. Personally, I like being honest and upfront about what I can/cannot provide because, by the same token, I don't like people misleading me.

However, if she is comfortable with short term or only one meet a month then that's fine.


ike with anything, work out what you can afford, what all the various costs will be and plan accordingly, sticking to your budget.

As LH suggests, it's better to have a small number of excellent meets for a few hours with SA girls and an occasional 30min punt to satisfy your urges inbetween, as opposed to many average or unsastifactory 1hr visits to WGs.

There is not fixed formula. Different things may work for different ppl and different ways to approach....based on the need and what we are looking for.
I just find meeting a SB more fulfilling than meeting an escort even if it cost more. If I cant afford to meet often...will have less number of meets. Meeting at nice places, and going to a nice restaurants is not just for SB but my personal preference to make every meet a memorable experience and exploring nice places. Meeting a SB is more than just physical satisfaction for me.

[DeanoDeano]

Very much agree with CPs points around giving the impression you’re looking for someone to give a regular or monthly allowance to, if you have no intention of doing so.

Tricking someone into having sex with me under false pretences isn’t t what floats my boat at all, and I don’t think it’s right.

Just be honest and upfront. There are plenty of girls who just want that anyway.

[Marcom1lano]

So I have been playing around with SA today now that I have premium membership. Offers ranging from pics to PPM to allowances. What is interesting is the price ranges... I have had two equally lovely ladies offer 700ppm and the other 400ppm...

I have had requested of 1500 per month to 3000 per month...

Is there a set “price” one should be aiming towards...

Would be interested in better understand idea protocol Vs learning from My own mistakes.

Appreciate the guidance all

[Tokidoe]

So I have been playing around with SA today now that I have premium membership. Offers ranging from pics to PPM to allowances. What is interesting is the price ranges... I have had two equally lovely ladies offer 700ppm and the other 400ppm...

I have had requested of 1500 per month to 3000 per month...

Is there a set “price” one should be aiming towards...

Would be interested in better understand idea protocol Vs learning from My own mistakes.

Appreciate the guidance all

From my experience its up to how much you want to spend. I tend to not mention money straight up without a M&G. Sometimes this might not be the case 90% of the time, as they might flake or request payment on first meet. I would say I’ve been lucky as I’m relatively young, and keep well in shape, so that also may be a factor depending what they want.

[Bobbins1973]

So I have been playing around with SA today now that I have premium membership. Offers ranging from pics to PPM to allowances. What is interesting is the price ranges... I have had two equally lovely ladies offer 700ppm and the other 400ppm...

I have had requested of 1500 per month to 3000 per month...

Is there a set “price” one should be aiming towards...

Would be interested in better understand idea protocol Vs learning from My own mistakes.

Appreciate the guidance all

Do not discuss this with them in messages and get them onto WhatsApp immediately otherwise will be banned
There’s no set prices, depends what standards you have and what ££ you can play with. Never agree to their 1st prove as unusually can get them for 1/2 their initial 1st quoted price , also depends where in the country you are - London more expensive than north/Scotland etc

[Marcom1lano]

Thanks gents, yes have 4 on WhatsApp chat and being relatively calm. Playing the long game.
Would like to see how it goes because it’s a different style to punting.

May come back for more guidance so thank you in advance 

[isbcar]

I have had requested of 1500 per month to 3000 per month...

Is there a set “price” one should be aiming towards...

Sounds about right for London although i would try negotiating towards the low end. 300-350 ppm or 1k-1.5k monthly allowance. Times are rough with covid so I'm sure you can reach an understanding. Also consider the potential overhead costs in hotels and restaurants (may not be possible with the current restrictions). In my experience, its better to start with ppm and if you see a future then consider a monthly allowance.

[Link7]

Thanks to lh08 and CP for responses above. Somehow, I've never been much a fan of the 15/30 minute P&D punt (in London - different story when abroad/on holiday). Interesting suggestion to "supplement" SA with that though - makes sense, especially when playing the long game.

[Link7]

Not necessarily so. Some girls just look at SA as another income stream and will accept less money. The one thing I've found about SA is the wide variety of motives so best not make assumptions. The same girl can have different money expectations depending on how the online conversation goes

Agree with your take Dave. A smaller contingent perhaps, but I think there are also escorts out there just hoping to meet a rich man one day and quit.

As silly as it may sound, I have seen an escort (well reviewed on here) who's SA profile said that she is looking for a soulmate. Will link if I find it again.

[Link7]

If she is an escort than she is on SA to find men who can pay her more than agency price or to find men because may be because of covid she is not getting enough clients. Her join date is Sep20. The way an escort perceive  Seeking arrangement is different than a normal girl. SA site is not the right way to meet an escort.

I do at least agree that she's not on there to have sex on the cheap 

She does appear to care who she's talking to though - as I mentioned, wants pictures. My experience has been that escorts/pro SBs simply looking to pick up clients tend to just give out their number immediately/indiscriminately - no interest in who you are or what you look like.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Sounds about right for London although i would try negotiating towards the low end. 300-350 ppm

Thats only the low end if you are looking for a 19yr to 25yr old Barbie. I look in the 25 to 45 age bracket from £100 to £200 which I consider to be the low end. I get plenty of rejections but enough takers to keep me busy.