Seeking.com (London)

[Apu]

Guys anyone getting this message when opening the SA app on android.

Forbidden Access

Token has expired.

[NightKid]

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WG/pornstar Stacey Saran - External Link/Members Only. Wonder if she's genuinely still under 40

[martini2429]

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WG/pornstar Stacey Saran - External Link/Members Only. Wonder if she's genuinely still under 40

Money must be tight in the Porn Industry these days

 

[Hantsolo]

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WG/pornstar Stacey Saran - External Link/Members Only. Wonder if she's genuinely still under 40

She's been on there before, wanted £300 per hour according to my WhatsApp and if you want anything more than a basic fuck she wanted £400 an hour.

[DeanoDeano]

Twitter pork star Elle Brooke is on there too I noticed.

[DeanoDeano]

Twitter pork star Elle Brooke is on there too I noticed.

I meant porn but pork would seem appropriate too.

[NightKid]

Twitter pork star Elle Brooke is on there too I noticed.

Oh yeah I clocked her before too (External Link/Members Only) but wasn't entirely sure who she was, thanks.
She looks strangely like an Olsen twin to me for some reason so you can imagine my initial thoughts upon seeing it

Also, pork star 

[massagepuntingfan]

Twitter pork star Elle Brooke is on there too I noticed.

Politely messaged yesterday, no response.

[Flush]

Anyone seen this lady?

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[Steve2]

Anyone seen this lady?

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Favourited me and sent private pics 3 months ago. I have not followed up but Others have said that she is genuine

[Link7]

Never thought I would be posting on a seeking thread.

To be brutally honest, I had previously considered SA a mug's game (not that punting by the hour necessarily isn't - but that's another conversation). (Still) paying for a shag, but with lots of (expensive) bells and whistles on top, and calling it dating did not, in my book, look like the hugely fulfilling experience some had described.

I guess the pandemic forced a change of outlook as I have become single (yes, I'm inadvertently blaming that on covid), have more time on my hands, cannot otherwise socialise for the mostpart and can scarcely think of a riskier activity than visiting a WG.

Everyone has their view, but in truth I haven't found it much like dating. I have found it quite a lot like escorting, except the women are picky (let's not get into the semantics of whether that's possibly not an unfair description of dating )

It is not the easy option in the way punting is. I got into punting precisely because it's the easy option. From that point of view, perhaps I will end up back there. But I've enjoyed peering into the world of seeking and increasing my understanding of you guys. Thanks to all contributors here.

[Link7]

Politely messaged yesterday, no response.

Reckon the elle brooke profile is fake. She has a bf and I'm quite sure she doesn't need the money - until recently was one of the top earners on onlyfans. And the pictures on the profile look downloaded, if you know what I mean.

[DeanoDeano]

I dunno she said on Twitter a few days ago that she wants a sugar daddy.

 

[mrflash]

Never thought I would be posting on a seeking thread.

To be brutally honest, I had previously considered SA a mug's game (not that punting by the hour necessarily isn't - but that's another conversation). (Still) paying for a shag, but with lots of (expensive) bells and whistles on top, and calling it dating did not, in my book, look like the hugely fulfilling experience some had described.

I guess the pandemic forced a change of outlook as I have become single (yes, I'm inadvertently blaming that on covid), have more time on my hands, cannot otherwise socialise for the mostpart and can scarcely think of a riskier activity than visiting a WG.

Everyone has their view, but in truth I haven't found it much like dating. I have found it quite a lot like escorting, except the women are picky (let's not get into the semantics of whether that's possibly not an unfair description of dating )

It is not the easy option in the way punting is. I got into punting precisely because it's the easy option. From that point of view, perhaps I will end up back there. But I've enjoyed peering into the world of seeking and increasing my understanding of you guys. Thanks to all contributors here.

Nice post. I will give my 2p on this matter.

I am not much bothered with definition of dating. As you said escort is an easy option. But there was a time when I didn't find it satisfactory anymore. Don't mistake me. I did enjoy it. What's not to like about kissing and banging a sweet Russian chick all the way you like? But I started missing the connection you have with someone you know well. I took a punting break for around 10 months and visited an escort again. It was a positive experience but I still missed something.

So I wanted to meet someone for a longer meeting (3-4 hours or overnights), have sex and also have good conversations in between, have dinner meets once in awhile. But I am not looking for a serious relationship yet. Escorts charged too much for such meetings. The high male-female ratio in regular dating apps means I was only getting limited interest and only from women I didn't fancy much.

So seeking is perfect for me. It is easier compared to regular dating apps but not as easy as booking escorts. I usually chat for a week in seeking and Whatsapp before doing M&G. I get to see the person for real and also know the person well before we get to the sex which means I know I am not going to be shocked by seeing a 40 year old lady posing as 25. Financially, Seeking is a bad choice for short meetings but good choice for longer meetings as you can find girls who just want fixed amount for a meeting and would stay as long as you want. Such long meetings would cost close to 1000 bucks with escorts. And then, I can actually feel a tight pussy that hasn't taken 4 cocks already for the day.

So the advantage I see over escorts are the charm of messaging them regularly, develop connection and then having a meeting, longer meetings for lower costs and meeting someone who is not tired of shagging men round the clock. But it is not as easy as meeting escorts and overall you spend more money but get more value for it.

[bbz123]

Slightly different question - are any of you guys booking hotels in tier 4? Anyone got away with having a ‘business’ hotel booking for a meet?

[Link7]

I dunno she said on Twitter a few days ago that she wants a sugar daddy.

 

Haha, you're dead right. Now I'm not so sure!

If it's her, don't know why she's put single on her profile. People that follow her would know she's in a relationship with the nerdy looking lad in all her videos - "hubby" as she sometimes calls him.

Be interesting to see if anyone gets anywhere with her. Bet you'll need to be advertising a decent net worth to get her attention.

[Link7]

Nice post. I will give my 2p on this matter.

I am not much bothered with definition of dating. As you said escort is an easy option. But there was a time when I didn't find it satisfactory anymore. Don't mistake me. I did enjoy it. What's not to like about kissing and banging a sweet Russian chick all the way you like? But I started missing the connection you have with someone you know well. I took a punting break for around 10 months and visited an escort again. It was a positive experience but I still missed something.

So I wanted to meet someone for a longer meeting (3-4 hours or overnights), have sex and also have good conversations in between, have dinner meets once in awhile. But I am not looking for a serious relationship yet. Escorts charged too much for such meetings. The high male-female ratio in regular dating apps means I was only getting limited interest and only from women I didn't fancy much.

So seeking is perfect for me. It is easier compared to regular dating apps but not as easy as booking escorts. I usually chat for a week in seeking and Whatsapp before doing M&G. I get to see the person for real and also know the person well before we get to the sex which means I know I am not going to be shocked by seeing a 40 year old lady posing as 25. Financially, Seeking is a bad choice for short meetings but good choice for longer meetings as you can find girls who just want fixed amount for a meeting and would stay as long as you want. Such long meetings would cost close to 1000 bucks with escorts. And then, I can actually feel a tight pussy that hasn't taken 4 cocks already for the day.

So the advantage I see over escorts are the charm of messaging them regularly, develop connection and then having a meeting, longer meetings for lower costs and meeting someone who is not tired of shagging men round the clock. But it is not as easy as meeting escorts and overall you spend more money but get more value for it.

Thanks for sharing pal. I certainly get the appeal of the girls not being totally shagged out. And that it's a less competitive market to regular dating apps, offering potential access to girls who might still be unattainable based on charm alone.

The genuine connection is an interesting point. As a punter (and maybe in life) I think I have probably trained myself to avoid developing that. Despite doing dinner dates etc, personally, not sure I've felt this any more easily. May just be that mentally, I can't shake the fact that i'm paying. Or I am a cold bastard (probable!).

But I understand the principle - same reason, I think, why people look for a "GFE" punt with kissing. This is a better simulation, at the very least, than 30 minutes/1 hour with someone you've barely said hello to.

[HomerC]

That 19 year old sugar baby I've been talking to is asking "I'm with my sister tonight can we come?"

She the one who didn't want to do a M&G, but she did send a video message, so I know it's her.

This thread has taught me that if 2 girls want to meet you then they're going to rob you. So I am very weary!

[HomerC]

I guess the pandemic forced a change of outlook as I have become single (yes, I'm inadvertently blaming that on covid), have more time on my hands, cannot otherwise socialise for the mostpart and can scarcely think of a riskier activity than visiting a WG.

Adult Work turned off their reviewing and rating facility back in March. Clearly people are still punting, but now there's no way to check (recent) feedback.

I do wonder, why aren't hundreds of WGs succumbing to COVID everyday? Perhaps they are, and we just don't know, but it seems unlikely.

[Link7]

Adult Work turned off their reviewing and rating facility back in March. Clearly people are still punting, but now there's no way to check (recent) feedback.

I do wonder, why aren't hundreds of WGs succumbing to COVID everyday? Perhaps they are, and we just don't know, but it seems unlikely.

I think a lot of WGs will have had it, yes - perhaps not hospitalised though, as they're mostly not so old. We don't know for sure how long immunity lasts, so whether they are susceptible to getting re-infected, we can't say.

I reckon there will also be a significant number of them, at any given time, who have no symptoms and are superspreading. Punters will take it home to their families, kids might take it to school etc etc. Of course, the true source of such outbreaks won't be traced because no one is likely to report themselves either as working as/visiting a prostitute. 

It is of course a gamble to meet Seeking girls too atm. They might not have kissed 5 or 6 blokes that same day, but frankly, who knows where anyone has been.

[Hantsolo]

Adult Work turned off their reviewing and rating facility back in March. Clearly people are still punting, but now there's no way to check (recent) feedback.

I do wonder, why aren't hundreds of WGs succumbing to COVID everyday? Perhaps they are, and we just don't know, but it seems unlikely.

We all know AW reviews are 99.99999% bollocks anyway, thats the beauty of this site and the reviews on it. I would never, ever see a girl based on AW feedback.

[Volta2809]

Favourited me and sent private pics 3 months ago. I have not followed up but Others have said that she is genuine

Not seen her but spoken to her on WA. She is keen to meet this week as she lives nearby. If I hook up I will let you know

[mrflash]

Thanks for sharing pal. I certainly get the appeal of the girls not being totally shagged out. And that it's a less competitive market to regular dating apps, offering potential access to girls who might still be unattainable based on charm alone.

The genuine connection is an interesting point. As a punter (and maybe in life) I think I have probably trained myself to avoid developing that. Despite doing dinner dates etc, personally, not sure I've felt this any more easily. May just be that mentally, I can't shake the fact that i'm paying. Or I am a cold bastard (probable!).

But I understand the principle - same reason, I think, why people look for a "GFE" punt with kissing. This is a better simulation, at the very least, than 30 minutes/1 hour with someone you've barely said hello to.

Yeah. It's tricky to get that feeling of a proper GFE when you have clearly paid for it. Good conversations normally help me lock that thought in a corner of my mind. But I completely understand your PoV too 

[keij]

Slightly different question - are any of you guys booking hotels in tier 4? Anyone got away with having a ‘business’ hotel booking for a meet?

Now I work from a hilton in central London, they remain open but they lock their door, you need to buzz in and you need to be in their booking system to be allowed in, no visitor allowed.

[massagepuntingfan]

Nice post. I will give my 2p on this matter.

I am not much bothered with definition of dating. As you said escort is an easy option. But there was a time when I didn't find it satisfactory anymore. Don't mistake me. I did enjoy it. What's not to like about kissing and banging a sweet Russian chick all the way you like? But I started missing the connection you have with someone you know well. I took a punting break for around 10 months and visited an escort again. It was a positive experience but I still missed something.

So I wanted to meet someone for a longer meeting (3-4 hours or overnights), have sex and also have good conversations in between, have dinner meets once in awhile. But I am not looking for a serious relationship yet. Escorts charged too much for such meetings. The high male-female ratio in regular dating apps means I was only getting limited interest and only from women I didn't fancy much.

So seeking is perfect for me. It is easier compared to regular dating apps but not as easy as booking escorts. I usually chat for a week in seeking and Whatsapp before doing M&G. I get to see the person for real and also know the person well before we get to the sex which means I know I am not going to be shocked by seeing a 40 year old lady posing as 25. Financially, Seeking is a bad choice for short meetings but good choice for longer meetings as you can find girls who just want fixed amount for a meeting and would stay as long as you want. Such long meetings would cost close to 1000 bucks with escorts. And then, I can actually feel a tight pussy that hasn't taken 4 cocks already for the day.

So the advantage I see over escorts are the charm of messaging them regularly, develop connection and then having a meeting, longer meetings for lower costs and meeting someone who is not tired of shagging men round the clock. But it is not as easy as meeting escorts and overall you spend more money but get more value for it.

I see it similarly and thanks for your 2p! I spent 3 hours yesterday with a 23 year old nympho, clicked from the beginning was fantastic time spent, the chemistry was very real and its something one would rarely if ever experience in the escort world all for £250. I've said before that that to me seeking is in between dating and escorting. Sure its transactional but its also two way, they see your profile, you build up a bit of trust by chatting and most importantly they are choosing to meet up basing their choice on their judgment of looks, cash offer and build up chat. Escorts don't have as much choice and often go into a meeting blind. When it works on seeking(it doesn't work all the time and best to be picky) its fantastic and the reason why I've hardly punted with escorts in the last year or so.

[mrflash]

I see it similarly and thanks for your 2p! I spent 3 hours yesterday with a 23 year old nympho, clicked from the beginning was fantastic time spent, the chemistry was very real and its something one would rarely if ever experience in the escort world all for £250. I've said before that that to me seeking is in between dating and escorting. Sure its transactional but its also two way, they see your profile, you build up a bit of trust by chatting and most importantly they are choosing to meet up basing their choice on their judgment of looks, cash offer and build up chat. Escorts don't have as much choice and often go into a meeting blind. When it works on seeking(it doesn't work all the time and best to be picky) its fantastic and the reason why I've hardly punted with escorts in the last year or so.

True that. When it clicks, there is no escort experience that can match that.

[Azuredised]

Now I work from a hilton in central London, they remain open but they lock their door, you need to buzz in and you need to be in their booking system to be allowed in, no visitor allowed.

Ouch!
Has anyone else tried booking hotels for SA meets in London?

[hamchang]

Slightly different question - are any of you guys booking hotels in tier 4? Anyone got away with having a ‘business’ hotel booking for a meet?

Airbnb etc is the easiest. I did it a few days ago in London and got a 2 bed apartment in Pimlico for 90 quid no questions asked. Great deals to be had!

[punterstanding]

Anyone seen her before ?

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She's not my cup of tea but it's good that we all have different tastes! She is a premium member but has chosen to hide that along with her joining and last active dates. That's a warning sign for me that she might be flaky though I see that someone else on here has met her

[finn5555]

Anyone seen this lady?

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She appears genuine wanted £250 for a few hours

[SpaceRaiderDave]

True that. When it clicks, there is no escort experience that can match that.

Also if you click it's possible to get them to a lower fee or convert it to a free fuck buddy situation something no escort would ever do.

[Mr_Shins]

Nice post. I will give my 2p on this matter.

I am not much bothered with definition of dating. As you said escort is an easy option. But there was a time when I didn't find it satisfactory anymore. Don't mistake me. I did enjoy it. What's not to like about kissing and banging a sweet Russian chick all the way you like? But I started missing the connection you have with someone you know well. I took a punting break for around 10 months and visited an escort again. It was a positive experience but I still missed something.

So I wanted to meet someone for a longer meeting (3-4 hours or overnights), have sex and also have good conversations in between, have dinner meets once in awhile. But I am not looking for a serious relationship yet. Escorts charged too much for such meetings. The high male-female ratio in regular dating apps means I was only getting limited interest and only from women I didn't fancy much.

So seeking is perfect for me. It is easier compared to regular dating apps but not as easy as booking escorts. I usually chat for a week in seeking and Whatsapp before doing M&G. I get to see the person for real and also know the person well before we get to the sex which means I know I am not going to be shocked by seeing a 40 year old lady posing as 25. Financially, Seeking is a bad choice for short meetings but good choice for longer meetings as you can find girls who just want fixed amount for a meeting and would stay as long as you want. Such long meetings would cost close to 1000 bucks with escorts. And then, I can actually feel a tight pussy that hasn't taken 4 cocks already for the day.

So the advantage I see over escorts are the charm of messaging them regularly, develop connection and then having a meeting, longer meetings for lower costs and meeting someone who is not tired of shagging men round the clock. But it is not as easy as meeting escorts and overall you spend more money but get more value for it.

My experience has generally been similar to yours, although I switched from seeking, which I used early on, to WhatsYourPrice. Some girls have profiles on both. I had an "arrangement" for a few months at the end of 2019 with someone I met on that site, and I was paying for each meet and we were having sex on them.

Later on though I used WYP primarily as a good site to meet the women because it is far easier to do so than on regular dating sites, and they are less picky because they are not looking for life partners in the same way. It doesn't have to be exclusive to seeing escorts and I still have my regular there for sex when I feel like it.

[HomerC]

Is what’s your price any good? Do people in London use it? The mere name sounds like prostitution

[punterstanding]

Is what’s your price any good? Do people in London use it? The mere name sounds like prostitution

Shins post needs to be taken in context, see here
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=244630.msg3022183#msg3022183

The consensus in the closed Seeking thread is that WYP is more expensive to use than Seeking

[Steve2]

Also if you click it's possible to get them to a lower fee or convert it to a free fuck buddy situation something no escort would ever do.

It has been known to happen 

[Link7]

Also if you click it's possible to get them to a lower fee or convert it to a free fuck buddy situation something no escort would ever do.

Fair play. Now that really is no different to tinder etc.

Might have been done to death, but I am all ears about "conversion" strategy if people are using SA effectively in this way. How do you propose it? Or do you meet a few times and eventually just not mention the money, hoping it's forgotten (lol!)?

My instinctive reaction is that you would surely just get fucked off for someone else (who is also nice, tall, whatever else you may be that she likes) but who is also happy to pay.

[DeanoDeano]

Fair play. Now that really is no different to tinder etc.

Might have been done to death, but I am all ears about "conversion" strategy if people are using SA effectively in this way. How do you propose it? Or do you meet a few times and eventually just not mention the money, hoping it's forgotten (lol!)?

My instinctive reaction is that you would surely just get fucked off for someone else (who is also nice, tall, whatever else you may be that she likes) but who is also happy to pay.

It’s not a strategy or a cheat mode to make someone like you. On the very rare occasion it could happen, it has to because there is something genuine there, nor because you followed a set of guidelines.

[Link7]

It has been known to happen 

But I think this is so rare as to be negligible. 99% of posts I've seen about this are unrequited love stories where the punter thought they had become a friend/lover but still ended up used for something.

Naturally, the problem is trust, when the initial basis for the client/escort relationship is that you are both good liars - in the escort's case, a type of professional actress.

[Link7]

It’s not a strategy or a cheat mode to make someone like you. On the very rare occasion it could happen, it has to because there is something genuine there, nor because you followed a set of guidelines.

Understood that there's no "blueprint" lol and the girl has to like you. Just be interested to hear about how it has happened for people. Given the huge risk of getting told to fuck off, or otherwise ghosted and replaced by someone who pays.

Did you literally just stop paying one day and the meets carried on, without payment ever being discussed?

[DeanoDeano]

My only experience of things going that way was entirely the girls choice and at her instigation, I did nothing to bring it about. She made the decision that she didn’t want me to give her an allowance any more.

[Cunning Punt]

Understood that there's no "blueprint" lol and the girl has to like you. Just be interested to hear about how it has happened for people. Given the huge risk of getting told to fuck off, or otherwise ghosted and replaced by someone who pays.

Did you literally just stop paying one day and the meets carried on, without payment ever being discussed?

Not done it myself so leave that one for others. I have had a reg for a few months and I'm considering trying to gradually wean her off regular ppm to more occasional support for something specific.

However, the plus point about having an allowance system in place is that there is a clear demarcation for both of you on what it is and what it isn't ie an arrangement that may also be a friendship but is definitely not a proper relationship.

Take the money away and there is a risk that the lines could become blurred, with the possibility that she (or you) could mistakenly think it is a relationship, get emotionally attached and it could become messy.

Just something to consider.

[DeanoDeano]

Agreed - but down to personal circumstances of course. While the stated premise of the website is deliberately opaque and keeps those lines blurred, I know girls who have married their sugar daddies, and as a single guy I was more than happy to enter into a relationship with someone I met on there.

[HomerC]

Shins post needs to be taken in context, see here
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=244630.msg3022183#msg3022183

The consensus in the closed Seeking thread is that WYP is more expensive to use than Seeking

Yeah, it just seems like "seeking" "with extra steps"

[Link7]

Thanks Deano and CP. All noted. I see both sides of the coin.

I might also add here that I agree with others who have previously observed that there's possibly a higher % of girls on the site with a little "loco" in them than in wider society.

One thing I always do is tread carefully with Seeking girls. So much so, if i'm honest, that I'll pretend to have enjoyed shit meets and that I want to meet again (but then just slowly ghost). Rather that than make an enemy.

[Azuredised]

Wondering what people generally do with their profiles once the premium membership ends..
Last time I had deleted my profile...

[Cunning Punt]

Wondering what people generally do with their profiles once the premium membership ends..
Last time I had deleted my profile...

A lot of guys delete their profiles then, when they're ready to hunt again, start a new profile without subscription and after 2/3 weeks they often receive a discount offer.

In the meantime, and particularly now with it being so lean, you may wish to bide your time and set up a dummy, free account with different browser and email so you can keep an eye on profiles.

[kirpNew]

Just an update, I saw this girl last week

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I am still recovering from the meet, she has mad chebs (F Cup) and is a shagaholic. We went at it straight for 4 hours, she has incredible stamina.

She is a well known wg/sb/escort , what ever you choose to call her. She gets fucked bareback by loads of guys for £200/250. Better get checked out.

[kirpNew]

Not done it myself so leave that one for others. I have had a reg for a few months and I'm considering trying to gradually wean her off regular ppm to more occasional support for something specific.

However, the plus point about having an allowance system in place is that there is a clear demarcation for both of you on what it is and what it isn't ie an arrangement that may also be a friendship but is definitely not a proper relationship.

Take the money away and there is a risk that the lines could become blurred, with the possibility that she (or you) could mistakenly think it is a relationship, get emotionally attached and it could become messy.

Just something to consider.

Nah, they want your money. They are sleeping with 50 yo men for it and so on and they will remind you when you don't pay.

Other men can pay more and sometimes they will cancel you when it's right for them.

[NightKid]

She is a well known wg/sb/escort , what ever you choose to call her. She gets fucked bareback by loads of guys for £200/250. Better get checked out.

Do you have anything to back your claim?

[SpaceRaiderDave]

.... I am all ears about "conversion" strategy if people are using SA effectively in this way. How do you propose it? Or do you meet a few times and eventually just not mention the money, hoping it's forgotten (lol!)?

My instinctive reaction is that you would surely just get fucked off for someone else (who is also nice, tall, whatever else you may be that she likes) but who is also happy to pay.

The laws of supply and demand are such that if you want to fuck a girl on a nsa basis you have to give them something, praise & adulation, security, mentorship, friendship, orgasms, money etc etc. To get a freebie or a cheapie you have to find the girl’s other motivations and play on those. For most girls on SA money is the most important thing but there are others were they are really looking for something else. Even with the money orientated girls you can get a cheaper rate if your chat up and negotiation skills are good. I set myself a low budget of £100 to £175 per meet but don’t reveal the amount until as late as possible. It’s a time consuming process with lots of rejections but I’ve had the same strategy for so long I can copy/paste lots of messages. Plenty of the girls I contact claim they are looking for mentorship which is a pretty vague term and can allow me to offer to give advice on a wide range of subjects if they meet me. Many of the girls feel isolated and if you can gain their trust then they are more likely to fuck for free.  TBH I always pay for the first meet but will look for an appropriate moment to reduce or eliminate the amount. If she is good and the rate is already low I continue at that level but if she is say £150 I might put forward the suggestion I could only continue at say £100 or if it feels right even lower.

I also play the long game. When I first contact a girl It will be at a time she is active on SA so probably has lot’s of choice. Unless they are a complete waste of time I try and leave on good terms with the one night stands and after say six months will contact them again. Maybe a random “How are things?” or under the guise of Birthday greetings or Merry Christmas. This tactic has renewed a couple of relationships with the only cost to me being the hotel room.

There is no magic formulae as everyone is different and you have to react to what info you are given.