Seeking.com (London)

[andrew.michael]

As mentioned by another poster, definitely not cheaper especially when you consider the dinner/drink and hotel cost. But excellent value for money because you get to spend longer time with them. Overnights would cost a fortune for escorts whereas you can meet much better girls in seeking for what you pay an escort for 2 hours meet. Monthly allowances are a whole different game which I don't have much experience in. You get the added advantage of knowing the girl much better before paid meet rather than meeting an escort blindly. But yes, you need to do a lot of groundwork and choose the right girls for you.

lol you’ve convinced me.

i’ll get membership once lockdown is over (hopefully after the 30th).

what’s your success rate been with these girls guys?

[y101y]

It’s not really sensible to share information like this on a public and visible  thread.

What?

Seems I’ve misunderstood what this site is about. Thought it was for sharing details about sex for money.

[Tokidoe]

What?

Seems I’ve misunderstood what this site is about. Thought it was for sharing details about sex for money.

Amount varies, many factors into consideration since it might be based on whether she fancies you or location or even extra “relationship” costs. Cant necessary guarantee a rate that someone else has.

[Bobbins1973]

lol you’ve convinced me.

i’ll get membership once lockdown is over (hopefully after the 30th).

what’s your success rate been with these girls guys?

50% will reply to messages, 33.3r% will get on WhatsApp and convert 10% who are likely to meet for fun at a reasonable allowance.
I love the thrill of the chase but if may consume you. Take it as what it is - anything is a bonus

[DeanoDeano]

What?

Seems I’ve misunderstood what this site is about. Thought it was for sharing details about sex for money.

It is. 

And while there is no point rehashing the age old debate about whether sugar baby dating is sex work, the dynamics are different.

[andrew.michael]

50% will reply to messages, 33.3r% will get on WhatsApp and convert 10% who are likely to meet for fun at a reasonable allowance.
I love the thrill of the chase but if may consume you. Take it as what it is - anything is a bonus

this is what i’m afraid of..

i feel like SA is the next step up from escorts. more time and money spent but i reckon the sex would feel more intimate than seeing a working girl who’s been pumped by 6 different guys on the day. the chase and thrill sounds addictive. from the descriptions here the meets sound way more intimate.

[Bobbins1973]

this is what i’m afraid of..

i feel like SA is the next step up from escorts. more time and money spent but i reckon the sex would feel more intimate than seeing a working girl who’s been pumped by 6 different guys on the day. the chase and thrill sounds addictive. from the descriptions here the meets sound way more intimate.

Yes but you have to graft - no point joining now as it’s literally impossible to meet - save your cash and reap the rewards after lockdown

[stampjones]

this is what i’m afraid of..

i feel like SA is the next step up from escorts. more time and money spent but i reckon the sex would feel more intimate than seeing a working girl who’s been pumped by 6 different guys on the day. the chase and thrill sounds addictive. from the descriptions here the meets sound way more intimate.

You have to be willing to invest time and money and understand how to play the game but it definitely delivers. Read the open thread through before you join which should cover most of the basics then dive in and enjoy. Remember its a numbers game so if you like to pick one particular girl and get with her you may end up disappointed - its more you pick 50 and get with a couple of them.

[stampjones]

Yes but you have to graft - no point joining now as it’s literally impossible to meet - save your cash and reap the rewards after lockdown

Agree

[mrflash]

lol you’ve convinced me.

i’ll get membership once lockdown is over (hopefully after the 30th).

what’s your success rate been with these girls guys?

Good idea to wait till lockdown is over. Hard to keep messaging and make sure you don't lose touch with the girls during lockdown.
Success percentage could vary based on multiple factors.
1) I search based on age and body type and send message to the ones whose profile look interesting. Your preferences maybe different.
2) Only a percentage of them respond. This depends on your profile, looks and other factors like what you have mentioned as your salary and net worth.
3) Only a percentage of them share a good chemistry with you in the conversations. You may find the other person off putting or vice versa for various reasons.
4) Only a percentage of them fall under your budget. This depends on your budget. Lower the budget, more conversations will stop once you speak money.
5) Only a percentage of them will actually come to meet. As a newbie, this percentage has been 100 for me. I have tried to schedule meetings with three women so far and all of them showed up. I had a good time with all. This could be because I go for women who are over 27 years. Above this age, I think most of them are not as flaky as the younger ones.
Considering all the above factors, it's hard to find a clear success percentage.

Just be careful though. I have got numbers of around ten women. Two of them were too pushy to meet before the lockdown. I had already planned for meets with some other ladies who I liked most in the list. There was no way I was going to spend more money with them as they were in the lower half of my priority list. Those two eventually blocked me claiming that I was a timewaster. It's fine with me. But if you let them have their way, they will suck you dry. Even the ones I met already and had a good time, message me once in a week to check if I am interested in meeting, of course along with some hot pictures. It requires immense control to not spend over your monthly budget 

[andrew.michael]

thanks for the tips guys, i’ve learnt a lot.

i opened a free profile today and have had 14 messages in about 4 hours. (will pay for membership around march next year)

am i being too upfront on my profile description about stating i like kinky / submissive girls? i don’t think this is language that is highlighting escorting (don’t wanna get banned lol)

[Bobbins1973]

thanks for the tips guys, i’ve learnt a lot.

i opened a free profile today and have had 14 messages in about 4 hours. (will pay for membership around march next year)

am i being too upfront on my profile description about stating i like kinky / submissive girls? i don’t think this is language that is highlighting escorting (don’t wanna get banned lol)

Should be fine but don’t mention money or ppm at all in any description on your profile or more importantly your messages - get straight onto WhatsApp/kik immediately or move on and don’t be tempted to discuss your arrangement on the site as you will get an instant ban.

[andrew.michael]

Should be fine but don’t mention money or ppm at all in any description on your profile or more importantly your messages - get straight onto WhatsApp/kik immediately or move on and don’t be tempted to discuss your arrangement on the site as you will get an instant ban.

noted!

again, thanks a lot for the replies guys. very helpful.

[HomerC]

Does Seeking notice if you create a second account to make use of the discount code (External Link/Members Only)

I'll use a different email address, obviously, but the card is the same - I only have one card, a debit card.

It'll be annoying as hell if they ban me and I lose the 1 month of premium.

Perhaps I should just pay the full price (£70+ VAT = £84)

Seeking say that they are putting up the fees by £10 on New Years Day

[HomerC]

Am i right in thinking that this thread is no longer public? I used to be able to browse it while logged out, now it asks me to login. This is a good idea as it makes it less likely the Sugar Babies can read the thread.

[Bobbins1973]

Does Seeking notice if you create a second account to make use of the discount code (External Link/Members Only)

I'll use a different email address, obviously, but the card is the same - I only have one card, a debit card.

It'll be annoying as hell if they ban me and I lose the 1 month of premium.

Perhaps I should just pay the full price (£70+ VAT = £84)

Seeking say that they are putting up the fees by £10 on New Years Day

Should be able to use code on your current account, just log out and back in with link above

[HomerC]

Should be able to use code on your current account, just log out and back in with link above

i already used it for the first month. I thought it was only valid once?

[HomerC]

In addition to this very helpful thread reddit has a forum called "sugar life style forum" - but all one word - sugarlifestyleforum

It's quite handy for reading about norms and etiquette. It's for both SBs and SDs.

They auto delete all PPM amounts. There's a bot that does it.

The glossary you need to know:

POT - potential sugar baby or sugar daddy

[HomerC]

Does anyone have an intel on a SB called "Little Baby Bella"?

External Link/Members Only

[Azuredised]

Does anyone have an intel on a SB called "Little Baby Bella"?

External Link/Members Only

I think she was looking for something online only.

[Azuredised]

Any information on her :

External Link/Members Only
?

[Lone-punter]

Any intel on this MILF 

YourMrsWontFindOut
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[Hantsolo]

Any intel on this MILF 

YourMrsWontFindOut
External Link/Members Only

Chatted to her but it never went anywhere, seem to remember that she's looking for monthly rather than ppm and wasn't cheap.

[HomerC]

I think she was looking for something online only.

Yes, she said that during the second lockdown, but also said she may be open to meeting. For a high price.. and only 1 hour

[Lone-punter]

Chatted to her but it never went anywhere, seem to remember that she's looking for monthly rather than ppm and wasn't cheap.

Exactly, £1,000 allowance for two monthly meets 

[HomerC]

Exactly, £1,000 allowance for two monthly meets 

She's 39 years old! That's extremely unrealistic. Mind boggling.

[HomerC]

I'm currently talking to a 19 year old. She's fit! She says she's okay to do 3 hours for £200!! Have I finally struck gold? She seems too good to be true. (She told me she was 20, but I did some sleuthing and found her name, and her socials - it was her 19th birthday a few months ago.) In other words, she's lying to me about being 20 - she's actually 19.

She won't do a meet & greet but, will do a video call. Strange. I had even said I'd give her cash to reimburse her for her Uber... I suppose it's plausible she just can't be arsed with a M+G?

She seems very naive based on her FB posts.

I stopped being a premium SA member a month ago. I'm glad I held on to her number.

After the video call I will attempt a PPM at a hotel. I worry that she won't show up. But maybe - just maybe - she will?

[jakesurrey7]

I'm currently talking to a 19 year old. She's fit! She says she's okay to do 3 hours for £200!! Have I finally struck gold? She seems too good to be true. (She told me she was 20, but I did some sleuthing and found her name, and her socials - it was her 19th birthday a few months ago.) In other words, she's lying to me about being 20 - she's actually 19.

She won't do a meet & greet but, will do a video call. Strange. I had even said I'd give her cash to reimburse her for her Uber... I suppose it's plausible she just can't be arsed with a M+G?

She seems very naive based on her FB posts.

I stopped being a premium SA member a month ago. I'm glad I held on to her number.

After the video call I will attempt a PPM at a hotel. I worry that she won't show up. But maybe - just maybe - she will?

Sounds Tgtbt. But good luck to you mate. Would you mind sending a link to her SA profile so we can see her photos as well.

[HomerC]

Sounds Tgtbt. But good luck to you mate. Would you mind sending a link to her SA profile so we can see her photos as well.

Perhaps I'm being setup to be robbed or scammed. I will take precautions. I will use a top hotel where you can't even get into the lift without a room keycard.

Sorry but I'm definitely not going to share her pics or profile. I don't even know if her profile is still active. What if she's real, and one of you guys gets in before me?  Thats hours /days /weeks of work down the drain. While I'm extremely grateful to everyone here, i don't want to give away a (potential) "needle in a haystack".

[Lone-punter]

She's 39 years old! That's extremely unrealistic. Mind boggling.

It's indeed mind boggling. In comms and photos she seems a classy woman but still insistence on long-term arrangement and that too for a whooping allowance makes her unwanted.

[dmitrybulgakov]

I'm currently talking to a 19 year old. She's fit! She says she's okay to do 3 hours for £200!! Have I finally struck gold? She seems too good to be true. (She told me she was 20, but I did some sleuthing and found her name, and her socials - it was her 19th birthday a few months ago.) In other words, she's lying to me about being 20 - she's actually 19.

She won't do a meet & greet but, will do a video call. Strange. I had even said I'd give her cash to reimburse her for her Uber... I suppose it's plausible she just can't be arsed with a M+G?

She seems very naive based on her FB posts.

I stopped being a premium SA member a month ago. I'm glad I held on to her number.

After the video call I will attempt a PPM at a hotel. I worry that she won't show up. But maybe - just maybe - she will?

Let us know how you get on.
I have balled couple of 18 to 20 years old from SA, but I have personally found them to be very basic in sex. Now I only aim for  slightly older girls as for me they are less likely to flake and better in sex for sure.

I did shag a girl for 200 quid for whole night in Aberdeen,  but she was below average in giving pleasure to me. In essence she can be  a great monthly/keepers material where you can show her the ropes slow and steady. But for PPM she is well below average in sexual performance as it stands. She is also a stunner looks and body wise, but just  a missionary Nun on the bed for now.

[HomerC]

I've had 4 PPMs so far, with 2 girls. I always give cash at the start. I know you guys say wait until the end. But I feel like I already know and trust them - due to M&Gs.

I don't want them to worry that I'll simply refuse to pay. I always encourage them to count it- and I look away as they do it.

I always negotiate a good rate before hand anyway, so it's never more than £300.

[HomerC]

Let us know how you get on.
I have balled couple of 18 to 20 years old from SA, but I have personally found them to be very basic in sex.

That suits me fine - I am very basic in sex.

[p4ds]

Anyone seen her before ?

External Link/Members Only

[mrflash]

I've had 4 PPMs so far, with 2 girls. I always give cash at the start. I know you guys say wait until the end. But I feel like I already know and trust them - due to M&Gs.

I don't want them to worry that I'll simply refuse to pay. I always encourage them to count it- and I look away as they do it.

I always negotiate a good rate before hand anyway, so it's never more than £300.

Same with me. I have met three different girls for PPM so far and always paid at the beginning of meet, of course the meets are scheduled only after M&G and I was confident about them after that. I have even managed to find the personal social media profiles for two of them. I may make a mistaken judgement in the future though.

[dmitrybulgakov]

Same with me. I have met three different girls for PPM so far and always paid at the beginning of meet, of course the meets are scheduled only after M&G and I was confident about them after that. I have even managed to find the personal social media profiles for two of them. I may make a mistaken judgement in the future though.

What elements do you use to find their social media profiles?. Reverse image never worked for me.

[mrflash]

What elements do you use to find their social media profiles?. Reverse image never worked for me.

Two of them gave out their real first names. Not sure if most girls would. They were both commonly used first name though. They were both from outside the UK. They mentioned the course they graduated in, the city where they graduated from and the cities where they worked. I did a google search of first name, course name, city names they have been in and stumbled upon their LinkedIn profile. Once you have their full name and details from LinkedIn, you can use it to find other profiles. Most people try to hide their Facebook and Instagram profiles. But they don't seem to understand that it's their LinkedIn profile that gives away their identity most of the times.
It's possible because I meet women who are over 27 years old. I don't think most women in early twenties even have a LinkedIn profile. One of the two women clearly lost her job recently. The other one seems to work still and she actually has a better job and probably earns more than me. From the clues I got from my chat with her, my guess is that she really wants to buy a flat in London and she uses Seeking as a shortcut to get more money and reduce mortgage payments.
Sorry, I can be quite a stalker 

[dmitrybulgakov]

Two of them gave out their real first names. Not sure if most girls would. They were both commonly used first name though. They were both from outside the UK. They mentioned the course they graduated in, the city where they graduated from and the cities where they worked. I did a google search of first name, course name, city names they have been in and stumbled upon their LinkedIn profile. Once you have their full name and details from LinkedIn, you can use it to find other profiles. Most people try to hide their Facebook and Instagram profiles. But they don't seem to understand that it's their LinkedIn profile that gives away their identity most of the times.
It's possible because I meet women who are over 27 years old. I don't think most women in early twenties even have a LinkedIn profile. One of the two women clearly lost her job recently. The other one seems to work still and she actually has a better job and probably earns more than me. From the clues I got from my chat with her, my guess is that she really wants to buy a flat in London and she uses Seeking as a shortcut to get more money and reduce mortgage payments.
Sorry, I can be quite a stalker 

I have real first name, phone number, course and current city of a girl but still no luck. She is 21 in Uni.

[mrflash]

I have real first name, phone number, course and current city of a girl but still no luck. She is 21 in Uni.

That's hard to find. She definitely won't have LinkedIn profile at this point of time. You could try Facebook search with first name and London keywords. But unless she has a fairly unique name, it's tough. Phone numbers help if it's her actual personal number. But always worth it just check the number on truecaller. You may find out her full name/email.

[HomerC]

What elements do you use to find their social media profiles?. Reverse image never worked for me.

I think many SBs are now savvy enough to use unique photos, or photos that haven't been indexed by search engines.

Here's how I did it:

• I have a dedicated sugaring smartphone.
• I installed a social media app on it.
• If you grant it access to your contacts then it pulls up their corresponding accounts (if they exist).

Sometimes the SBs pick a username that resembles their real name - For example xoJaneyKarenSmith98xo

I searched her name and she came up on on Facebook. Her entire timeline seems public. She seems to post a lot on there. Regularly. I actually suspected she was a catfish but now I think she's likely real.  She's had a previous boyfriend that's decades older. That gives me confidence that she'll give me sugar. She comes across as normal and social- a green flag. She's a native english speaker.

So, while it was a bit careless of her to use this social media app, it's actually worked in her favour - I know she's a real person. I previously assumed she was a scammer (e.g. a man using a girl's photos).

The no M&G is still an orange flag for me. I'll try and get a sense of what she's like on the video/phone call. If there's anything even slightly off about her then I'll drop her.

Red flags for me would be:

• Mentally unstable (she has to be normal)
• Short of money (I have no interest in exploiting anyone)
• Incoherent (I have to be able to communicate well with her)

I will try again to push her for a M&G. I won't enjoy a session with a girl if there's no chemistry.

I really do think that sugaring is a different category to straight up prostitution. While it still is obviously money for sex, there is an element of charm involved. It is a bit like dating.

[HomerC]

Two of them gave out their real first names. Not sure if most girls would. They were both commonly used first name though. They were both from outside the UK. They mentioned the course they graduated in, the city where they graduated from and the cities where they worked. I did a google search of first name, course name, city names they have been in and stumbled upon their LinkedIn profile. Once you have their full name and details from LinkedIn, you can use it to find other profiles. Most people try to hide their Facebook and Instagram profiles. But they don't seem to understand that it's their LinkedIn profile that gives away their identity most of the times.
It's possible because I meet women who are over 27 years old. I don't think most women in early twenties even have a LinkedIn profile. One of the two women clearly lost her job recently. The other one seems to work still and she actually has a better job and probably earns more than me. From the clues I got from my chat with her, my guess is that she really wants to buy a flat in London and she uses Seeking as a shortcut to get more money and reduce mortgage payments.
Sorry, I can be quite a stalker 

Make sure you're using a sock LinkedIn account, otherwise she might be able to see that you've been peeking her profile. That's assuming you have a real Linked In profile of your own.

[HomerC]

I wonder if sugaring will lose its stigma over time.
I would be crestfallen if my daughter was a SB(!) but I'm glad that young women are open to be being my SB.
Some civilian girls are on Tinder and Bumble, they ride the cock carousel.. for free. They are still very promiscuous , even if they aren't earning money from it.

[HomerC]

My first SB gave me her real first name. At our first PPM she showed me her instagram profile (on her phone), it contains her real first name and surname. She's mid 30s. She has a online footprint as she's a performing artist / dancer. Her instagram is private (but she has a public twitter and Facebook).

I've seen her 3 times, nice girl. Good laugh.

[mrflash]

Make sure you're using a sock LinkedIn account, otherwise she might be able to see that you've been peeking her profile. That's assuming you have a real Linked In profile of your own.

Yeah I should have mentioned that. I usually do it on incognito window where I am not logged in to LinkedIn. You don't need an account to visit a profile.

[Lfc4life]

I've had 4 PPMs so far, with 2 girls. I always give cash at the start. I know you guys say wait until the end. But I feel like I already know and trust them - due to M&Gs.

I don't want them to worry that I'll simply refuse to pay. I always encourage them to count it- and I look away as they do it.

I always negotiate a good rate before hand anyway, so it's never more than £300.

I don't think there is really a right or wrong way with this, it all comes down to ones judgement of the situation/SB. Myself, I have had a number of ppm meets (none with M&G's, however extensive comms via WA) and on each occasion I have sorted out the cash at the end of the meet. In some instances have even dropped SB off to the nearest train station. For me personally, the expectation of the SB for the meet is MY pleasure, and giving cash at the end encapsulates that whole dom experience I am looking for.

[Azuredised]

Has anyone booked hotel/ rooms recently?
Any advice or recommendations?

[Lfc4life]

Has anyone booked hotel/ rooms recently?
Any advice or recommendations?

I recently had a meet (when london was tier 3) without any issues.. over zealous receptionist wanted SB name "in the event of a fire" 

Not sure what the situation is with hotels in a tier 4 situation.. so any info would also be appreciated.

[Flush]

Anyone seen her before ?

External Link/Members Only

Yes I have seen her, her cakes are very nice and she is legit. That ass is a mad bubble and tits are great as well. She is also experienced.

[undercoverpunter]

Paid and for how long?

£300 for a few hours. 

[daviemac]

£300 for a few hours.

It's been made abundantly clear numerous times that members post SA information in open sections at their own risk and any such posts will not be deleted.