Seeking.com (London)

[HomerC]

You wouldn’t meet anyone without a photo so if you are not even sharing on WhatsApp or if they are not asking to see you then they have zero interest in meeting you for real
You need to build up a bit of trust and rapport with the girls first - makes introductions less awk and usually results in faster results
Even if you put a standard sugar daddy google image on profile it sparks a bit of interest from the girls - the more extravagant the picture, the frequency of the girls

Okay, so what you seem to be saying is : send her a photo at the WhatsApp stage? So, no pic on SA, but then send the person purporting to be a SB pic then?

[Paris69]

Okay, so what you seem to be saying is : send her a photo at the WhatsApp stage? So, no pic on SA, but then send the person purporting to be a SB pic then?

Yes!!! Build a little rapport, but be wary. That's wary, not paranoid.
Exchange photos as part of the connecting phase via WhatsApp; and go from there.

If her photo is of supermodel standard, on a boat in, say Monaco Harbour, it's likely to be fake; so ask her to send a photo of her reading todays newspaper or sitting watching todays News etc etc etc...
You get the idea.....
But if you are too mistrusting and your gut is saying that something is wrong: Then it probably is...

[massagepuntingfan]

Okay, so what you seem to be saying is : send her a photo at the WhatsApp stage? So, no pic on SA, but then send the person purporting to be a SB pic then?

You sound like you're approaching it with a far too suspicious manner. Sure Seeking has changed in the sense that there are far more women looking for online gubbins but the nuts and bolts of the site remain the same. Lots of women looking to hook up for money/gift. I encourage you to read the entire thread, you'll get a far better impression of what seeking is and how to go about it. If you're worried about showing a picture on your profile, show them on WhatsApp, these women aren't escorts, they might be seeking some recompense for their time but they aren't 9-5 died in the wool hookers. Many dispute this on here, but if you try it enough you'll begin to see that it lies somewhere in between normal dating the oldest profession. Read the entire thread, get prepared to be patient and be respectful.

[HomerC]

Hey. Thanks, I have read the entire thread from start to finish, several times.

I still feel the need to be cautious - it's too easy for a man or a scammer to create a female profile.

The two types of profiles I detest reading are:

I'm looking for a man to spoil me for the princess I am

and

Online only

Why the fcuk would I want to just text chat with a lovely lady? What would be the fucking point? It makes me so angry. At least they have the decency to say it conspicuously in their profile.

I was on Bumble earlier and a girl put her PayPal link in her profile. She wasn't even pretty. It takes e-begging to who whole new level.

[Paris69]

Hey. Thanks, I have read the entire thread from start to finish, several times.

I still feel the need to be cautious - it's too easy for a man or a scammer to create a female profile.

The two types of profiles I detest reading are:

and

Why the fcuk would I want to just text chat with a lovely lady? What would be the fucking point? It makes me so angry. At least they have the decency to say it conspicuously in their profile.

I was on Bumble earlier and a girl put her PayPal link in her profile. She wasn't even pretty. It takes e-begging to who whole new level.

When you see the term Princess in her reply or profile....... run a mile.

[massagepuntingfan]

Hey. Thanks, I have read the entire thread from start to finish, several times.

I still feel the need to be cautious - it's too easy for a man or a scammer to create a female profile.

The two types of profiles I detest reading are:

and

Why the fcuk would I want to just text chat with a lovely lady? What would be the fucking point? It makes me so angry. At least they have the decency to say it conspicuously in their profile.

I was on Bumble earlier and a girl put her PayPal link in her profile. She wasn't even pretty. It takes e-begging to who whole new level.

Sure online and the obvious money getters are to be avoided - don’t waste your time with the types that annoy you, there are plenty of relatively normal women on there. I’m unsure whether seeking is for you from what youVe said so far, but it’s not important what I think. Try and relax your attitude to it, go for the more normal SB and dip your toe in. Try and approach it like accelerated dating not escorting.

[stampjones]

That's my point - SBs don't really need to see what the men look like.

You have to make them feel safe or comfortable seeing you. There are lots of ways to achieve it. Photographs can help, or striking up a connection on whatsapp which is my approach

[Ron89]

If anyone is pretty sure of hotels in Central that won’t be bothered/ask questions about bookings during lockdown, can you ping me them? Will owe you one big time.

[Lfc4life]

If anyone is pretty sure of hotels in Central that won’t be bothered/ask questions about bookings during lockdown, can you ping me them? Will owe you one big time.

+1.. would also appreciate any information regarding this.

[aceface11]

+1.. would also appreciate any information regarding this.

I'll add another vote to this request too .

In other news... I just had my Tinder account banned  I'd followed the advice given in this thread (I didn't deviate!) so be careful on there folks.

[massagepuntingfan]

I'll add another vote to this request too .

In other news... I just had my Tinder account banned  I'd followed the advice given in this thread (I didn't deviate!) so be careful on there folks.

Interesting I matched with a girl who was using Seeking terminology, we moved to WhatsApp then her Tinder profile disappeared, she said Tinder had banned her and she didn't know why.

[bbz123]

+1.. would also appreciate any information regarding this.

would also appreciate any info on this...

[what-a man]

If anyone is pretty sure of hotels in Central that won’t be bothered/ask questions about bookings during lockdown, can you ping me them? Will owe you one big time.

How about Airbnbs’ but going for the whole apartment where you dont get to meet the host, rather than a double room in a flat.

[Rock4ages]

If anyone is pretty sure of hotels in Central that won’t be bothered/ask questions about bookings during lockdown, can you ping me them? Will owe you one big time.

There is a hotel I know of that was allowing this during the April lockdown. not going to say it openly so the don't get banned . Pm me

[HomerC]

I'm taking to a SB on WhatsApp now.
She's sent me links to various £600+ shoes (context: i said I might have some nice gifts for her)

She's insisting on £30-40 taxi fare for the platonic meet and greet - I could pay her in cash (so I wouldn't have to pay her in advance)

I'm thinking of just dropping it. I know you guys have said never pay for the meet & greet

Earlier, we had a voice call and she was trying to get me to see who I worked for. Umm... no. That's so cheeky. As if I'm going to tell a stranger. Why the fuck would I do that? What sort of idiot would give away that info?

[martini2429]

I'm taking to a SB on WhatsApp now.
She's sent me links to various £600+ shoes (context: i said I might have some nice gifts for her)

She's insisting on £30-40 taxi fare for the platonic meet and greet - I could pay her in cash (so I wouldn't have to pay her in advance)

I'm thinking of just dropping it. I know you guys have said never pay for the meet & greet

Earlier, we had a voice call and she was trying to get me to see who I worked for. Umm... no. That's so cheeky. As if I'm going to tell a stranger. Why the fuck would I do that? What sort of idiot would give away that info?

Jeez, how far is she travelling?

 

[HomerC]

I read one sugar baby profile that said:

I will not date anyone under 5 foot 11 - sorry height and hygiene are important

Some SB profiles demand to be taken to loads of places all the time.
Can you imagine how annoying that would be? It's not good for discretion.
Isn't loads of money enough?
You also want the SD to be your servant. Like, what? 

[HomerC]

Jeez, how far is she travelling?

 

She specifically said she was quite close to me - within 30 mins.
So, she's already fleecing me. I think I'll give her a miss.
Luckily there are loads of young women to choose from.

I try not to block girls in case they feel offended. I guess I'll just stop replying to them. (If I "hide" their profile do they see that I've blocked them?)

[Paris69]

She specifically said she was quite close to me - within 30 mins.
So, she's already fleecing me. I think I'll give her a miss.
Luckily there are loads of young women to choose from.

I try not to block girls in case they feel offended. I guess I'll just stop replying to them. (If I "hide" their profile do they see that I've blocked them?)

In the nicest possible way Homer, 'man up'.
Never mind thinking you will give her a miss, and trying not to offend her by not blocking.....
Tell her you're not interested then block her.

Your patter is either pulling in the scammers or you're just unlucky... But get wise quickly pal or your gonna end up fleeced and/or  reported to work etc etc by some vindictive bitch.

Smarten up sharpish or get of SA.... and i say that to help; not to be awful to you

[Bobbins1973]

I'm taking to a SB on WhatsApp now.
She's sent me links to various £600+ shoes (context: i said I might have some nice gifts for her)

She's insisting on £30-40 taxi fare for the platonic meet and greet - I could pay her in cash (so I wouldn't have to pay her in advance)

I'm thinking of just dropping it. I know you guys have said never pay for the meet & greet

Earlier, we had a voice call and she was trying to get me to see who I worked for. Umm... no. That's so cheeky. As if I'm going to tell a stranger. Why the fuck would I do that? What sort of idiot would give away that info?

Send her an Uber but if looking at £600 shoes she’s not going to put out for less than Escort rates
Move on or send her a cheeky low ball price

[massagepuntingfan]

In the nicest possible way Homer, 'man up'.
Never mind thinking you will give her a miss, and trying not to offend her by not blocking.....
Tell her you're not interested then block her.

Your patter is either pulling in the scammers or you're just unlucky... But get wise quickly pal or your gonna end up fleeced and/or  reported to work etc etc by some vindictive bitch.

Smarten up sharpish or get of SA.... and i say that to help; not to be awful to you

Totally agree with you. Homer your uncertainty at how to proceed seems to be giving them the opportunity to take the piss. You have to be clear on what you're looking for, state it early, be polite but assertive, you'll be amazed at how many women are looking for the same thing. So for instance if your limit is £200 PPM don't be afraid to state this. Let them know that you're looking for a naughty, intimate meet, no rush etc and when they ask the amount you're prepared to pay say your last arrangement was £200. Always be polite, if you're social skills are lacking and you're not that confident in the company of a beautiful young woman the seeking may not be for you. If you think you can handle it then own it!

[Lfc4life]

In the nicest possible way Homer, 'man up'.
Never mind thinking you will give her a miss, and trying not to offend her by not blocking.....
Tell her you're not interested then block her.

Your patter is either pulling in the scammers or you're just unlucky... But get wise quickly pal or your gonna end up fleeced and/or  reported to work etc etc by some vindictive bitch.

Smarten up sharpish or get of SA.... and i say that to help; not to be awful to you

Well put.. if you don't like what they say, block and move on. There's plenty of options on there. Stick to your guns with regards to what you are comfortable with and you will have success.

[HomerC]

I should clarify that she wasn't demanding these expensive shoes. She sent me links to them after I said I might have some nice gifts for her. She meant them as suggestions.

On the taxi thing: she actually said it was £30-40 for a return fare. I suppose that's reasonable? And she's not asking for upfront payment.

Oh, and she suggested she can do a free video call instead of doing a meet & greet. (But I'd rather not, in case it's recorded..)

I haven't blocked her so far because she looks smoking in her one public photo.


Good news: I am talking to two other, very promising SBs. I told one of them that my range was £100-150 and she said it was too low. I'm still chatting to her because she seems really nice - and she has agreed to do a "free" platonic meet & greet. I probed and get the impression she wants more like £250 ppm. She's 24, so I am thinking about it. If I find her very attractive in real life then I'll consider it. (I'd have to forego the hotel tho..) 


Summary: i'm starting to talk to more reasonable and more attractive women. It's actually quite fun!

On the photo thing: I've uploaded a photo but it only shows part of my face. Since doing that I've had much better messages.

[CheeseBoard]

she has agreed to do a "free" platonic meet & greet.

The way you put this i get the impression you are not saying what you should be.  Just say 'I don't pay for m&g's'.  Dont call it a platonic date as the word date infers you should put your hand in your pocket.  If she is doing it for free she is positioning it so she is doing you a favour when in reality she is on there for the cash and you are not.  Who needs who more?

If you want a platonic date then you can't call foul if she wants paying.

If she calls it a platonic date (which more than likely she will as it puts a potential value on it), make sure you let her know its a meet and greet and not a date.  There are enough SB's on there not to get stuck on one 

As for the 'probing' to find out how much she wants, just ask or tell her what works for you.  You need to be more straightforward and just do it.  Stop dancing around the fringes and getting hung up on taxis and shoes.  Do it or don't and move on.  Keep life simple 

[Paris69]

I should clarify that she wasn't demanding these expensive shoes. She sent me links to them after I said I might have some nice gifts for her. She meant them as suggestions.

On the taxi thing: she actually said it was £30-40 for a return fare. I suppose that's reasonable? And she's not asking for upfront payment.

Oh, and she suggested she can do a free video call instead of doing a meet & greet. (But I'd rather not, in case it's recorded..)

I haven't blocked her so far because she looks smoking in her one public photo.


Good news: I am talking to two other, very promising SBs. I told one of them that my range was £100-150 and she said it was too low. I'm still chatting to her because she seems really nice - and she has agreed to do a "free" platonic meet & greet. I probed and get the impression she wants more like £250 ppm. She's 24, so I am thinking about it. If I find her very attractive in real life then I'll consider it. (I'd have to forego the hotel tho..) 


Summary: i'm starting to talk to more reasonable and more attractive women. It's actually quite fun!

On the photo thing: I've uploaded a photo but it only shows part of my face. Since doing that I've had much better messages.

Think about it.....
She didnt send you the link 'cos she doesn't want them off you. OFC she wants you to be the mug who buys them.
In salesman's parlance; if you don't ask, you don't get.

Free video call! You need to make clear that you're all about M&G's as a way of preceding proper meets where you can both have fun, and live out your fantasies. You can get free videos online. Dont even think about paying for a video

Free platonic M&G...   Hey, there isn't any other. Never ever pay for a M&G. Yes, you might treat her to coffee/luch or even dinner; but paying to meet? No.

If she is young and hot, and in London, yes you may be a bit low at 100-150; but this is all subjective.

[massagepuntingfan]

Think about it.....
She didnt send you the link 'cos she doesn't want them off you. OFC she wants you to be the mug who buys them.
In salesman's parlance; if you don't ask, you don't get.

Free video call! You need to make clear that you're all about M&G's as a way of preceding proper meets where you can both have fun, and live out your fantasies. You can get free videos online. Dont even think about paying for a video

Free platonic M&G...   Hey, there isn't any other. Never ever pay for a M&G. Yes, you might treat her to coffee/luch or even dinner; but paying to meet? No.

If she is young and hot, and in London, yes you may be a bit low at 100-150; but this is all subjective.

Yes agree with the price range being low for london. My general rule is £200-£250 and for the occasional cracker I've paid £300.

[tazz]

Anyone seen Millyquinn from Belfast and moved here in the summer, based near Early court, tells me she flat shares with another women off the site but works from home

External Link/Members Only

[Cunning Punt]

Oh, and she suggested she can do a free video call instead of doing a meet & greet. (But I'd rather not, in case it's recorded..)

On the photo thing: I've uploaded a photo but it only shows part of my face. Since doing that I've had much better messages.

Well, yes, exactly - fairly obvious. And you'll get more headway if you actually share a face photo privately on SA with girls you like and feel there is an initial connection with. But you're not letting a girl see what you look like on SA or WA, by photo or video - while expecting her to share clear photos of herself.
And then there is your odd MO about trying to arrange M&Gs.

No wonder you're struggling to get anywhere. 

If you're that paranoid about your photos being shared and videos recorded, then this is going to make it even harder to arrange a meet than it is already. SA is probably not for you.

[ik8133]

Well, yes, exactly - fairly obvious. And you'll get more headway if you actually share a face photo privately on SA with girls you like and feel there is an initial connection with. But you're not letting a girl see what you look like on SA or WA, by photo or video - while expecting her to share clear photos of herself.
And then there is your odd MO about trying to arrange M&Gs.

No wonder you're struggling to get anywhere. 

If you're that paranoid about your photos being shared and videos recorded, then this is going to make it even harder to arrange a meet than it is already. SA is probably not for you.

Totally agree, I know there are scammers on SA, but the majority are not, you need to build up trust with an SB.  If you don't share your photos, they will become suspicious that you are not what you say you are and are hiding something.

[HomerC]

thank you all!
Great advice on terminology and strategy - taken on board.

[Lfc4life]

A question for some of the more 'seasoned' SDs.. So I have been talking and meeting this one SB on a very casual basis (drinks) no payment for meets although I have covered the cost of the drinks (circa 30 each time). On both occasions I have met her after spending a couple of hours with another SB so have released all testosterone prior to the drinks, hence its been quite relaxed and I haven't had the urge to sleep with her. I think this aspect has her intrigued as she seems the type who has men drooling over her.

Whilst talking over WA the inevitable question re allowance has cropped up, when I probed further the response was  "whatever you want" (regarding allowance).. now, my MO on SA is for a ppm basis, couple of hours of hotel fun and then 'see ya next time'

This particular SB has stirred some interest in me and am considering the allowance route, although have ZERO experience on how best to go about it.

I have stalled the convo for the time being however, would be very grateful for some advice either here or via PM

 

[martini2429]

A question for some of the more 'seasoned' SDs.. So I have been talking and meeting this one SB on a very casual basis (drinks) no payment for meets although I have covered the cost of the drinks (circa 30 each time). On both occasions I have met her after spending a couple of hours with another SB so have released all testosterone prior to the drinks, hence its been quite relaxed and I haven't had the urge to sleep with her. I think this aspect has her intrigued as she seems the type who has men drooling over her.

Whilst talking over WA the inevitable question re allowance has cropped up, when I probed further the response was  "whatever you want" (regarding allowance).. now, my MO on SA is for a ppm basis, couple of hours of hotel fun and then 'see ya next time'

This particular SB has stirred some interest in me and am considering the allowance route, although have ZERO experience on how best to go about it.

I have stalled the convo for the time being however, would be very grateful for some advice either here or via PM

 

Suggest to her you would like to start with a few ppm's to see how things go, then if things go well you could always change and go via the allowance route for longer meets not just a couple of hours, I think jumping straight in with an allowance would be the wrong thing to do at this time, enjoy yourself.

 

[ik8133]

A question for some of the more 'seasoned' SDs.. So I have been talking and meeting this one SB on a very casual basis (drinks) no payment for meets although I have covered the cost of the drinks (circa 30 each time). On both occasions I have met her after spending a couple of hours with another SB so have released all testosterone prior to the drinks, hence its been quite relaxed and I haven't had the urge to sleep with her. I think this aspect has her intrigued as she seems the type who has men drooling over her.

Whilst talking over WA the inevitable question re allowance has cropped up, when I probed further the response was  "whatever you want" (regarding allowance).. now, my MO on SA is for a ppm basis, couple of hours of hotel fun and then 'see ya next time'

This particular SB has stirred some interest in me and am considering the allowance route, although have ZERO experience on how best to go about it.

I have stalled the convo for the time being however, would be very grateful for some advice either here or via PM

 

Why don't you just go for PPM the first two or three meetings, see how they go and then think about an allowance then.  The allowance is really up to you, how much per month you are willing to pay, what is expected from your SB, on what she is willing to do and if you have to set a minimum on the amount of meets for said allowance.  This really needs discussing with your SB and what you are both happy with.     

[stampjones]

Suggest to her you would like to start with a few ppm's to see how things go, then if things go well you could always change and go via the allowance route for longer meets not just a couple of hours, I think jumping straight in with an allowance would be the wrong thing to do at this time, enjoy yourself.

 

This.

The thing about allowances is that either you or the SB needs to risk being screwed over. Either you pay in advance for the month and risk getting nothing or you pay at the end of the month and she risks not being paid. You need trust to have an allowance so best for all concerned to go ppm until you have that. Even if you trust her you risk her being shit in bef and not really wanting your paid for sessions

[Paris69]

Ask her what her previous SD paid her; and please, don't think she hasn't had one.

Whatever number she comes up with; deduct 33% for more accuracy.....then decide if her number is worthwhile to you based on how often you will see her/for how long.

Eg; I had an SB in Kingston (Upon Thames) for 9  months .... PPM's at first, £250 for an overnighter.
We moved to a £750pm allowance for an overnight every week; which worked out at £175 each.

First 6 months it was good....then went pear-shaped

[HistoryRepeats]

Recently got myself back on this site, as I was offered 25% discount, timing wise not ideal with the lockdown (as I got the discount on Wednesday), some are quite reluctant to meet.

Over the past couple days have struck up a good convo with:
External Link/Members Only

Seems genuine enough, interesting to see if anyone has any info!

[Bobbins1973]

A question for some of the more 'seasoned' SDs.. So I have been talking and meeting this one SB on a very casual basis (drinks) no payment for meets although I have covered the cost of the drinks (circa 30 each time). On both occasions I have met her after spending a couple of hours with another SB so have released all testosterone prior to the drinks, hence its been quite relaxed and I haven't had the urge to sleep with her. I think this aspect has her intrigued as she seems the type who has men drooling over her.

Whilst talking over WA the inevitable question re allowance has cropped up, when I probed further the response was  "whatever you want" (regarding allowance).. now, my MO on SA is for a ppm basis, couple of hours of hotel fun and then 'see ya next time'

This particular SB has stirred some interest in me and am considering the allowance route, although have ZERO experience on how best to go about it.

I have stalled the convo for the time being however, would be very grateful for some advice either here or via PM

 

Would never go to the allowance stage - ask her if gifts or cash would be preferred after meets and you can see what type of expenses looking at

[y101y]

A question for some of the more 'seasoned' SDs.. So I have been talking and meeting this one SB on a very casual basis (drinks) no payment for meets although I have covered the cost of the drinks (circa 30 each time). On both occasions I have met her after spending a couple of hours with another SB so have released all testosterone prior to the drinks, hence its been quite relaxed and I haven't had the urge to sleep with her. I think this aspect has her intrigued as she seems the type who has men drooling over her.

Whilst talking over WA the inevitable question re allowance has cropped up, when I probed further the response was  "whatever you want" (regarding allowance).. now, my MO on SA is for a ppm basis, couple of hours of hotel fun and then 'see ya next time'

This particular SB has stirred some interest in me and am considering the allowance route, although have ZERO experience on how best to go about it.

I have stalled the convo for the time being however, would be very grateful for some advice either here or via PM

 

You haven’t fucked this girl but you’re already considering an allowance? Don’t be foolish.

Enjoy this little flirting thing you have going but tell her you couldn’t possibly put a price on an allowance without making sure you two clicked physically. When you do get to it she should put 100% effort into it, so it’ll be a great fuck session after which you can decide if it’s worthwhile keeping her around and how much it’s worth.

[Bikerboy]

A question for some of the more 'seasoned' SDs.. So I have been talking and meeting this one SB on a very casual basis (drinks) no payment for meets although I have covered the cost of the drinks (circa 30 each time). On both occasions I have met her after spending a couple of hours with another SB so have released all testosterone prior to the drinks, hence its been quite relaxed and I haven't had the urge to sleep with her. I think this aspect has her intrigued as she seems the type who has men drooling over her.

Whilst talking over WA the inevitable question re allowance has cropped up, when I probed further the response was  "whatever you want" (regarding allowance).. now, my MO on SA is for a ppm basis, couple of hours of hotel fun and then 'see ya next time'

This particular SB has stirred some interest in me and am considering the allowance route, although have ZERO experience on how best to go about it.

I have stalled the convo for the time being however, would be very grateful for some advice either here or via PM

 

She’s prob bored and wondering why you haven’t suggested progressing things. Yeah it’s nice to have young pretty company but if you’re spent before you meet for drinks doubt it’ll go anywhere.
Agree a ppm and say if you click after you have a more personal meeting you can both think ab if you want something regular or not.
If an SB asks in a first meeting if I want to start an ongoing arrangement it’s a red flag bc declining after you’ve been together is awks and both of you may need time to decide if you enjoyed enough to do a further meet. Those of us who’ve been round the block a few times know what works for us and the SB and some time to think and compare can be useful.

[bash_eer]

I been on Tinder for nearly 2 weeks and I have been matched  with over 10 girls. I have started to talking to 3 of them on Whatsapp now. Also found quite a few girls who I have spoke to on SA on Tinder and I have swiped right on the some of them just to see if they do the same so far non of them have bit the bait.

The all the girls want a meet and greet first and then discuss where we go, they are not as forthcoming as the girls would be on SA. Communication is also slow as i find they are not as open to discussing what they open to or what they would find mutually beneficial.

I will see how it goes but not bad way to get some contacts for free.

[Cunning Punt]

The thing about allowances is that either you or the SB needs to risk being screwed over. Either you pay in advance for the month and risk getting nothing or you pay at the end of the month and she risks not being paid. You need trust to have an allowance so best for all concerned to go ppm until you have that. Even if you trust her you risk her being shit in bef and not really wanting your paid for sessions

Yes, a monthly allowance is a question of trust for either the SB or SD, as one of you is going to always be in arrears, so to speak. Maybe a weekly allowance would be a good first step if you wanted to go down that route but ppms are the best option for both parties initially for various reasons.

Until you actually spend quite a bit of time with someone, you don't know whether you click on a personal level and until you have sex with someone, you don't know whether you are going to click with them on an intimate level. And you want to give it a few meets as one can always have a good or bad one- or even two-off meet.

PPM also spreads your spending over the month, which can make it easier to manage and you can have a week's break if you want. Plus some guys may not want to give their personal/bank details to a girl so cash gives you that anonymity.

I've been seeing an SB for several months and still do ppm - it just works for me. She occasionally makes an irate comment as the link between sex and payment is a bit more blurred than a monthly allowance but it works for me and she's mature enough to have got her head round the fact it's just a little something to help her out.

[Cunning Punt]

She’s prob bored and wondering why you haven’t suggested progressing things.

Not necessarily - yet anyway. As he says, she may well be intrigued and even interested; no doubt she has been inundated by guys messaging her and offering £££ for sex straightaway and here is a guy who is not rushing to get into her pants, but taking her out and showing an interest in her.

However, it should also be said, some of these girls are just curious ie they just want free lunch/drinks and spend time with an intelligent older man rather than a dull, selfish and poor boy their own age - but at the same time have no intention of going to bed with them.

You may therefore just be wasting your time and money (your call if you don't mind that) so I agree that after a few dates it's probably time to move things along a bit and start gradually introducing sex into general conversation and (at different points of the conversation, of course) trying to find out about what she is looking for ie cash or gifts.
"Whatever you want" may not be a bluff, so it may be worth asking if she has a figure in mind or she is happy leaving it you, leaving something for her at the end of a meet.

[stampjones]

Yes, a monthly allowance is a question of trust for either the SB or SD, as one of you is going to always be in arrears, so to speak. Maybe a weekly allowance would be a good first step if you wanted to go down that route but ppms are the best option for both parties initially for various reasons.

Until you actually spend quite a bit of time with someone, you don't know whether you click on a personal level and until you have sex with someone, you don't know whether you are going to click with them on an intimate level. And you want to give it a few meets as one can always have a good or bad one- or even two-off meet.

PPM also spreads your spending over the month, which can make it easier to manage and you can have a week's break if you want. Plus some guys may not want to give their personal/bank details to a girl so cash gives you that anonymity.

I've been seeing an SB for several months and still do ppm - it just works for me. She occasionally makes an irate comment as the link between sex and payment is a bit more blurred than a monthly allowance but it works for me and she's mature enough to have got her head round the fact it's just a little something to help her out.

You put it much better tha me - I just got bored explaining aftter a few sentences   

[Cunning Punt]

You put it much better tha me - I just got bored explaining aftter a few sentences   

It's strange. Since Thursday, for some reason, I've suddenly got so much more time on my hands and have an inkling it may last till, say, the first week of December...

[Bikerboy]

A question for some of the more 'seasoned' SDs.. So I have been talking and meeting this one SB on a very casual basis (drinks) no payment for meets although I have covered the cost of the drinks (circa 30 each time). On both occasions I have met her after spending a couple of hours with another SB so have released all testosterone prior to the drinks, hence its been quite relaxed and I haven't had the urge to sleep with her. I think this aspect has her intrigued as she seems the type who has men drooling over her.

Whilst talking over WA the inevitable question re allowance has cropped up, when I probed further the response was  "whatever you want" (regarding allowance).. now, my MO on SA is for a ppm basis, couple of hours of hotel fun and then 'see ya next time'

This particular SB has stirred some interest in me and am considering the allowance route, although have ZERO experience on how best to go about it.

I have stalled the convo for the time being however, would be very grateful for some advice either here or via PM

 

Is she bored or intrigued as CP suggests may be the case?
Will this go anywhere or not?
Is she drowning in offers of sex or flattered by your attention and intelligence as CP hypothesises?!
Do update us to put us out of our misery 🧐

[Lfc4life]

Not necessarily - yet anyway. As he says, she may well be intrigued and even interested; no doubt she has been inundated by guys messaging her and offering £££ for sex straightaway and here is a guy who is not rushing to get into her pants, but taking her out and showing an interest in her.

However, it should also be said, some of these girls are just curious ie they just want free lunch/drinks and spend time with an intelligent older man rather than a dull, selfish and poor boy their own age - but at the same time have no intention of going to bed with them.

You may therefore just be wasting your time and money (your call if you don't mind that) so I agree that after a few dates it's probably time to move things along a bit and start gradually introducing sex into general conversation and (at different points of the conversation, of course) trying to find out about what she is looking for ie cash or gifts.
"Whatever you want" may not be a bluff, so it may be worth asking if she has a figure in mind or she is happy leaving it you, leaving something for her at the end of a meet.

Thanks all for the comments/advice.. all duly noted.

Yes, the dynamic of this so far is intriguing for me (and I guess her) its been quite flirty and she is definitely what I am looking for in terms of sexual preferences. With regards to the two dates, they have been in relatively decent places but its not like she is wanting to meet to get wasted for free, its been a couple of drinks and then the 10pm BoJo curfew kicked in. Again as on both occasions I have met her after seeing another SB, I've not come across as being desperate to get into bed with her, and I think this bit has her hooked as she's definitely a looker and loves the attention.

The 'allowance' chat occurred after lockdown 2.0 kicked in and I stated we could discuss when we next meet.. this gives sometime to further my intel before deciding either way. PPM has been working quite well for me and that would be my preferred route, however as allowance talk was brought up, I wanted to get some thoughts on how it has worked for others.

Will keep you folks updated as to how this one goes. 

[Bobbins1973]

Thanks all for the comments/advice.. all duly noted.

Yes, the dynamic of this so far is intriguing for me (and I guess her) its been quite flirty and she is definitely what I am looking for in terms of sexual preferences. With regards to the two dates, they have been in relatively decent places but its not like she is wanting to meet to get wasted for free, its been a couple of drinks and then the 10pm BoJo curfew kicked in. Again as on both occasions I have met her after seeing another SB, I've not come across as being desperate to get into bed with her, and I think this bit has her hooked as she's definitely a looker and loves the attention.

The 'allowance' chat occurred after lockdown 2.0 kicked in and I stated we could discuss when we next meet.. this gives sometime to further my intel before deciding either way. PPM has been working quite well for me and that would be my preferred route, however as allowance talk was brought up, I wanted to get some thoughts on how it has worked for others.

Will keep you folks updated as to how this one goes. 

You could sugar coat that ppm is the standard allowance on the site - other than the obvious Pro’s - most girls turn to Jelly when suggesting amounts as most have never done this before and anything in these difficult times is classed as a bonus

[Hobbit]

Thanks all for the comments/advice.. all duly noted.

Yes, the dynamic of this so far is intriguing for me (and I guess her) its been quite flirty and she is definitely what I am looking for in terms of sexual preferences. With regards to the two dates, they have been in relatively decent places but its not like she is wanting to meet to get wasted for free, its been a couple of drinks and then the 10pm BoJo curfew kicked in. Again as on both occasions I have met her after seeing another SB, I've not come across as being desperate to get into bed with her, and I think this bit has her hooked as she's definitely a looker and loves the attention.

The 'allowance' chat occurred after lockdown 2.0 kicked in and I stated we could discuss when we next meet.. this gives sometime to further my intel before deciding either way. PPM has been working quite well for me and that would be my preferred route, however as allowance talk was brought up, I wanted to get some thoughts on how it has worked for others.

Will keep you folks updated as to how this one goes. 

Never do an allowance in my opinion. A while back I was seeing someone regularly for PPM and it was going great, in between the meets she would sometimes throw in some freebie platonic meets and we would regularly chat. She then suggested an allowance which I agreed to and things went downhill from there. Lack of attention during meets, no freebie meets and not much communication.

After that I decided never to do an allowance ever again as these girls change once they have the money in their pocket in advance.

[Cunning Punt]

You could sugar coat that ppm is the standard allowance on the site - other than the obvious Pro’s - most girls turn to Jelly when suggesting amounts as most have never done this before and anything in these difficult times is classed as a bonus

Yes, and probably sugarcoat it further by not actually saying 'ppm'. I now never use this term first in conversation and tbh if girls do, they are often (but not always) fairly pro in their outlook. Equally it can make a guy look like a 'player' and a bit too cold/hardened and experienced at one-off, fuck-em-and-chuck-em meets, particularly to a newbie who may not even be aware of what it means.

Allowance on a per meet basis or a gift every time we meet initially while we see if we click sounds better but still makes it clear.

[FlaccidChimp]

I wasted someone's time  because it seemed like they were trying to scam me. The person from a seeking profile made conversation with me for a few days before requesting money online. I said I haven't met you yet. The person continue making conversation later. They asked for my Netflix password and £20 for gas money to visit me. I received a few insults along the way like "I'm being impossible." Finally I asked the person to video call then they said if I have to video call you before  you send 20 just forget about this altogether. I refuse to put myself in a position to be scammed of even £1.