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Offline Apu

Interesting theory however, a girls perceived value only increases when someone actually pays the price she is after, I think if you feel you are controlling the market price the opposite may be true.
ie: If she has lots of interest but no one is prepared to pay her price then invariably the price will drop.
If there is little interest and its just you offering silly money then the girl may well wait for more from some other mug
Commercially experienced folk will understand my logic here

Haha kudos on the finishing line.
As it stands I have a strategy for positioning myself to these girls. On a open forum, I wouldnt just give away my method to any keyboard assassin as it will not work for all.

Plus other users have advised me well in the learning process and they have done it in a way where they advised me rather than being  easily intimidated and offended  by my approach to SA.

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Offline DeanoDeano

My word.  :lol:

Maybe you should write a book on your outstanding game strategy.

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Offline Apu

Well done mate Ok then...Could you provide general outline as to what is your PPM (approx) and how do you detect fraud and weed out time wasters. What is your general strategy after moving to whatsapp/kik . Thanks

I did write a lengthy response to your request but after reading one of the bitter cunts responses I've decided to withdraw it and not aid the losers who are easily offended and intimidated by a bit of boasting.
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Offline Greenchilli

I did write a lengthy response to your request but after reading one of the bitter cunts responses I've decided to withdraw it and not aid the losers who are easily offended and intimidated by a bit of boasting.

PM me thanks. Not all of us have access to main SA thread and some added Intel will def help on SA. I have warned about some dangerous SB here and will do again if I come across any in future.
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Haha kudos on the finishing line.
As it stands I have a strategy for positioning myself to these girls. On a open forum, I wouldnt just give away my method to any keyboard assassin as it will not work for all.

Plus other users have advised me well in the learning process and they have done it in a way where they advised me rather than being  easily intimidated and offended  by my approach to SA.

So you post a lot of boasting about alleged conquests but you won't post any links and you also refuse to give any advice on what is a thread to help other SDs?

Seriously, what the fuck is the point in you posting at all and being here? None whatsoever.  :unknown:

As others have said, you are full of shit. Either you aren't having the success you are having or those 9s are more like 6s. Not hostility or jealousy; just reality.

Offline Apu

Help and advice will always be given to those who seek it without being confrontational and entitled.

I was given good advice from good posters on this forum when I sought it and I'll repay it in the same way. Privately, discretely and to the best I can.

Luckily I deleted a detailed informative post within the first 5 minutes.

Information and knowledge is best served at the hands of people willing to be open minded. Good thing this forum has PM's.

For others who would like a few pointers that helped me. Just PM me and I'll get back to you when possible.

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Help and advice will always be given to those who seek it without being confrontational and entitled.

I was given good advice from good posters on this forum when I sought it and I'll repay it in the same way. Privately, discretely and to the best I can.

Luckily I deleted a detailed informative post within the first 5 minutes.

Information and knowledge is best served at the hands of people willing to be open minded. Good thing this forum has PM's.

For others who would like a few pointers that helped me. Just PM me and I'll get back to you when possible.

Man, chill down.

Unreal this is still carrying on......
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Offline mgkerx

Haha kudos on the finishing line.
As it stands I have a strategy for positioning myself to these girls. On a open forum, I wouldnt just give away my method to any keyboard assassin as it will not work for all.

Plus other users have advised me well in the learning process and they have done it in a way where they advised me rather than being  easily intimidated and offended  by my approach to SA.

Are you aware that the Girls you believe you are gaming have their own Chat channels and forums,
So whilst you are playing out some master plan they could well be discussing your modus operandi and actually Playing You
What you need to apply is the Chaos Theory and you can PM me and others who would be happy to help with this.

Offline Apu

Man, chill down.

Unreal this is still carrying on......

What's carrying on? Isn't this a punting forum where we discuss prossies and SB's and help each other out and exchange stories.
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Offline Apu

Are you aware that the Girls you believe you are gaming have their own Chat channels and forums,
So whilst you are playing out some master plan they could well be discussing your modus operandi and actually Playing You
What you need to apply is the Chaos Theory and you can PM me and others who would be happy to help with this.

I'm aware SB's have their own WhatsApp circles. One of my girls said they meet up in a group of 50 or so and discuss who to avoid and who is a good cash cow. Who's a good fuck and who's kinky and fun.
They also run background checks, good and bad.

I never claimed to have a master plan. I just said I am enjoying myself this last few months because of methods I use and have already shared these with many posters since who are of similar profile to myself.

Yes please PM me your chaos theory approach and your observations, it would help me navigate away from potential sob story SB's.

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I'm aware SB's have their own WhatsApp circles. One of my girls said they meet up in a group of 50 or so and discuss who to avoid and who is a good cash cow. Who's a good fuck and who's kinky and fun.
They also run background checks, good and bad.

I never claimed to have a master plan. I just said I am enjoying myself this last few months because of methods I use and have already shared these with many posters since who are of similar profile to myself.

Yes please PM me your chaos theory approach and your observations, it would help me navigate away from potential sob story SB's.

Just like we blokes chat they do to. Escorts have their own forumns. Ladies to too. Even in dating they chat. All bout staying safe for all involved.
For the glorified suggar escorts ie sugar babies. Its bout hu can make them money. Intrigued wat background checks they do
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Offline Pikston

Fuck me, some people do like to complicate things.

Find a girl you like, talk to her to see if your expectations of an arrangement are aligned. If so, pay the girl and don't be a cunt. Surely it's no more difficult than that?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2020, 05:32:14 pm by Pikston »

Offline Apu

Just like we blokes chat they do to. Escorts have their own forumns. Ladies to too. Even in dating they chat. All bout staying safe for all involved.
For the glorified suggar escorts ie sugar babies. Its bout hu can make them money. Intrigued wat background checks they do

They probably discuss potential serial killers, fuckboys, rough guys, drug addict etc etc.

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Offline tynetunnel

They probably discuss potential serial killers, fuckboys, rough guys, drug addict etc etc.

Lucky you ain’t paranoid then  :hi:

Offline kirpNew

Are you aware that the Girls you believe you are gaming have their own Chat channels and forums,
So whilst you are playing out some master plan they could well be discussing your modus operandi and actually Playing You
What you need to apply is the Chaos Theory and you can PM me and others who would be happy to help with this.

Yes the sb are playing guys for mugs by the look of it. 


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5-8K a month. In their fuckin dreams.......

the thing is that there will be a rich man or woman that can pay that.
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the thing is that there will be a rich man or woman that can pay that.
You are correct- they will have more money than sense. These girls only need one client at that sort of price to have a good month. I would suggest such clients are like hens teeth- rarely seen if ever :hi:

Offline Sparta Prada

Speaking of playing guys for mugs...

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If a SD wrote such an offer in a message, wouldn’t they be at risk of copping a ban from the site?

Offline DeanoDeano

What's carrying on? Isn't this a punting forum where we discuss Sex Workers and SB's and help each other out and exchange stories.

At the risk of stating the obvious, you haven’t helped anyone out, you’ve not even “exchanged” a story.

I’m very happy that you are enjoying yourself on the website, but your initial post was pointless and you’ve reacted to some fair criticism by calling people “bitter cunts”.

None of this is really what this place is all about.

Offline aronteo

You are correct- they will have more money than sense. These girls only need one client at that sort of price to have a good month. I would suggest such clients are like hens teeth- rarely seen if ever :hi:

Unfortunately, I do not think it's that rare......; there are men out there (especially older chaps) who actually pay just to go out to lunch/dinner or to talk.....;I know of wgs invited to trips abroad and  been paid really well with separate rooms and no intimacy at all...(not even a kiss....)

Each to their own, but frankly the logic of that eludes me...... :hi:

Offline Apu

At the risk of stating the obvious, you haven’t helped anyone out, you’ve not even “exchanged” a story.

I’m very happy that you are enjoying yourself on the website, but your initial post was pointless and you’ve reacted to some fair criticism by calling people “bitter cunts”.

None of this is really what this place is all about.

You would be surprised but I've received number of PM's  and have shared in detail and length with more respectful, polite users who genuinely want my pointers.

Giving me a bollocking and demanding profiles is not gonna work with me.
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You would be surprised but I've received number of PM's  and have shared in detail and length with more respectful, polite users who genuinely want my pointers.

Giving me a bollocking and demanding profiles is not gonna work with me.
You have no idea, do you.  You come across as a tout for Brandon and a self proclaimed Casanova - but one who pays girls and thinks he's won them with his charm. 
But what have you got that's useful to contribute to an open thread about seeking in London?
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Offline Apu

First of all who's Brandon? Did he fuck your mum why he's so offensive to you.
2nd, who said I was fucking them for free? And convinced them to when I clearly stated PPM.
Lastly, you seem bitter. Ask yourself, do you think the only purpose of this forum is to post publicly? There's also a private message service that you may not know of. Those who ask me of tips never ask me for profiles or links.

Only the entitled free loaders do. What next? You want my login and password for verification and screenshots.
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If they wait long enough they will probably get someone to pay it, I've heard crazy stories like this from a few SB a while back, can't understand how desperate some guys must be to pay for that.
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Loneliness is a very powerful emotion, coupled with a bored cash rich OAP becomes a perfect target for a Hot Sugar Baby.

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Offline tynetunnel

First of all who's Brandon? Did he fuck your mum why he's so offensive to you.
2nd, who said I was fucking them for free? And convinced them to when I clearly stated PPM.
Lastly, you seem bitter. Ask yourself, do you think the only purpose of this forum is to post publicly? There's also a private message service that you may not know of. Those who ask me of tips never ask me for profiles or links.

Only the entitled free loaders do. What next? You want my login and password for verification and screenshots.

Ooh get you!  :unknown: Someone has poked the bad-tempered bear today, for sure. So you’re a seasoned pro at SA and you don’t know who Brandon is? That’s hilarious fella! What’s with all the ‘PM me for my expert tips’ type vibe you got going on? You’ve magically appeared here as God’s sweet gift to inexperienced SD’s but you only want to impart your wealth of knowledge to a select few on PM? This place is for sharing pal and you’ve been here long enough to know that  :hi:

Offline Greenchilli

Ooh get you!  :unknown: Someone has poked the bad-tempered bear today, for sure. So you’re a seasoned pro at SA and you don’t know who Brandon is? That’s hilarious fella! What’s with all the ‘PM me for my expert tips’ type vibe you got going on? You’ve magically appeared here as God’s sweet gift to inexperienced SD’s but you only want to impart your wealth of knowledge to a select few on PM? This place is for sharing pal and you’ve been here long enough to know that  :hi:

Mr Apu has been kind to provide some good intel and strategy on PM to me and others. IMHO this is an open forum and there is good possibility that good intel might end up to Sbs as well. The main SA thread is closed and it is difficult to find someone with real operational experience here. ..

Offline Dee19781

Apu,

Can you send me some tips, I tried to pm you but can’t for some reason.

I’m going to join as next week

Thanks
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Offline Pikston

Apu, would you mind PM'ing me a few pointers please?

Been on SA a few times, get a few numbers and chatted but not progressed.

Looking to start and progress something longer term without getting rinsed dry.

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There is an occasional case for exchanging PMs but doing so as a matter of routine rather goes against the grain of this website.  :unknown:

If people have general advice that would be of benefit to other SDs or punters then share it openly on this website's threads.

Boast posts without any information helpful to others are pointless and set off a chain of events that has adversely affected the closed thread.


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There is an occasional case for exchanging PMs but doing so as a matter of routine rather goes against the grain of this website.  :unknown:

If people have general advice that would be of benefit to other SDs or punters then share it openly on this website's threads.

Boast posts without any information helpful to others are pointless and set off a chain of events that has adversely affected the closed thread.

But often a good read for Admin  :D

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Been on SA a few times, get a few numbers and chatted but not progressed.

Looking to start and progress something longer term without getting rinsed dry.

What do you mean by 'rinsed dry', that the girls you are chatting to want too much money? London SBs' expectations are generally higher due to a lot of wealthier SDs offering 300, even if they also have to also cover hotel and refreshments.

Most of the time, these are just offers that don't lead to an arrangement because they go for someone else or decide against it but the damage is done and girls think this is the norm - and word gets round between SBs on the site.

Also, what sort of girls are you going for? If you're pursuing 9s/10s then that will be more difficult and even if you do manage to snag one, then it may not be a great experience if they're only it for money. Give me a 6/10 who is enthusiastic and good in bed over a 9/10 who just lies there like a cold fish and doesn't speak to you any day.

So, in summary, my advice is:
- Be wary of profiles that are too focused on money. Yes, we know what the site is about but if we wanted an escort experience, we'd go on AW.
- Look instead for girls who, obviously indirectly, seem up for sex and are friendly. Be prepared to lower your aesthetic standards for this.
- Widen your geographic range. If you are willing to travel 1hr from central London you will open up your possibilities and will find something more affordable. Not just because PPMs outside London are generally less but making it easy for a girl by travelling to her will also count in your favour when negotiating allowance.
- Try to pin down girls to a meet, even a M&G, within a few days. If she's being evasive, that's not a good sign. Make clear you are a serious SD who wants to arrange meets and don't want to waste time on text ping pong that doesn't lead anywhere.

And most of all, treat them like ordinary girls, not escorts. There are lots of twats on SA so coming across like a nice guy who respects her will massively boost your chances of converting those initial chats to actual meets.

Hope it works out for you.

« Last Edit: February 15, 2020, 01:09:30 pm by Cunning Punt »

Offline The888

Hows this so difficult!?

Man has money
Girl wants money

Talk about it - be open and set up a deal (or not).

Be normal and not a twat.

Offline MrBlackDude

Damn... So I caved in and signed up for another month, mostly because of the 25% discount offered on Friday, but also because my leads had dried up.

I think it has helped to be away from the site for a while, not being able to view messages, because the search results look a little fresher. The vast majority (with "luxury lifestyle" hidden) are still the usual basic Instagram/Snapchat thots, but I've since gotten talking to some potential SBs, and I might have a meet later this week!

Having been on the site for a while, it's given me a better idea of what I actually want. I'm wary of those who mention PPM right off the bat, and I insist on having an introductory meet. I've only had one (last year) to date.

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From this: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=259378.msg2767625#msg2767625

To this: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=259378.msg2797748#msg2797748

Even the best of SA hunters would be pushed to turn shit to super-honey shinola in a month...

@Apu so without giving away any profiles or identities perhaps you could outline what changed the state of your game?

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IMHO this is an open forum and there is good possibility that good intel might end up to Sbs as well. The main SA thread is closed and it is difficult to find someone with real operational experience here. ..

Well, not really right on either point - plenty of scope for general advice which is what a couple of posters were seeking and there are some of us on here with 'operational experience'. See my post above as an example.

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Offline Greenchilli

Hows this so difficult!?

Man has money
Girl wants money

Talk about it - be open and set up a deal (or not).

Be normal and not a twat.

Lot of women on SA want money as well as long term arrangement/bf/partner material. Money on its own wont cut it  at least that's what I discovered.

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From this: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=259378.msg2767625#msg2767625

To this: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=259378.msg2797748#msg2797748

Even the best of SA hunters would be pushed to turn shit to super-honey shinola in a month...

@Apu so without giving away any profiles or identities perhaps you could outline what changed the state of your game?

I’m ready for listening to any sound advice dispensed by the obvious woman charmer, Mr Apu  :hi:

Offline Greenchilli

Well, not really right on either point - plenty of scope for general advice which is what a couple of posters were seeking and there are some of us on here with 'operational experience'. See my post above as an example.

CP

Thanks for your inputs on SA.

Further to this some pointers from my side:

Be clear as to what you are seeking on SA - PPM ,mistress, companion , travelling partner , long term arrangement , fuck and forget or whatever that might be..Stick to it and it will lead to less headaches later on.  Once the transactional elements(money , gifts , travel ) start to blur it can get challenging to get out of that arrangement.
There are plenty of normal women on SA who dont see transactional arrangement as such and will continue to act as in normal relationships and the onus is on you to break it amicably if the need/desire to do so. I believe there are too many nut cases on SA and always have your wits about you to deal with any eventuality. Try to video call them before meeting to avoid potential issues aka (catfish scam , Tv/Ts ) Whilst on video call dont show your face straight away till you can see lady clearly. There are blackmailers out there ! I have not paid any lady yet for just showing up for drinks and you should clarify this with your potential SB as to what you want from the first meeting as it can result in awkward situation if shagging is on your cards and she leaves you high and dry. :D
Logistics, Comms  and other details I will try to cover later on...

 



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I've advised those who have politely requested my input. Hopefully it works out for them.
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Hows this so difficult!?

Man has money
Girl wants money

Talk about it - be open and set up a deal (or not).

Be normal and not a twat.

Have you had many arrangements? Whether you have or not, you're rather oversimplifying and that's a punter's way of looking at it. It helps if one has a lot to spend but the sort of girl whose overwhelmingly main motivation is money is probably not the type of girl/experience that one goes onto SA for.

Even if you do have cash, unlike AW, it's not just about money - and increasingly so if one has less to spend. My budget is relatively limited so it requires a LOT of time and effort plus nous and charm - much more than simply "not being a twat".

It took me 2 months of hard slog to get to grips with the site and secure my first arrangement. And even then she wouldn't be many guys' choice, being a size 18, though she was a nice girl and sexually skilled, and we met a few times.



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Have you had many arrangements? Whether you have or not, you're rather oversimplifying and that's a punter's way of looking at it. It helps if one has a lot to spend but the sort of girl whose overwhelmingly main motivation is money is probably not the type of girl/experience that one goes onto SA for.

Even if you do have cash, unlike AW, it's not just about money - and increasingly so if one has less to spend. My budget is relatively limited so it requires a LOT of time and effort plus nous and charm - much more than simply "not being a twat".

It took me 2 months of hard slog to get to grips with the site and secure my first arrangement. And even then she wouldn't be many guys' choice, being a size 18, though she was a nice girl and sexually skilled, and we met a few times.

Not sure what your motivations are, whether you're attached or simply not looking for anything too serious, etc. But I'm curious, since you're putting that much time and effort, and turning on the charm, wouldn't you be better off on a dating website?

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this one has confirmed meets before but not asks for money transfer first as i think she got screwed by someone
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Found this one and was about to meet. Then did a GRIS and found her instagram. Based on an interview with a Greek paper, she’s secretly TS.

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Not sure what your motivations are, whether you're attached or simply not looking for anything too serious, etc. But I'm curious, since you're putting that much time and effort, and turning on the charm, wouldn't you be better off on a dating website?

You've sort of answered your rather odd and obvious question.

I don't want a serious relationship so not going to join traditional dating websites. Swipe 'dating' sites that cater for people who don't, ie Tinder and Bumble, haven't worked for me. This is not surprising since these are looks-based - members make a snap decision based on your photos. For guys like me, in your 40s or older and not good looking, it is a struggle.

And because I am neither good looking nor rich, then yes it does require a lot of effort to secure new arrangements. Given the number of timewasters, deluded princesses, platonic or online only girls, and scammers on SA, it can a lot of time and effort even if you are good looking and can offer a reasonable allowance.

On average, you have to send dozens of messages to get an arrangement with a reasonable girl; the common expression SDs on here use is "it's a numbers game".

« Last Edit: February 19, 2020, 08:48:59 pm by Cunning Punt »

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Found this one and was about to meet. Then did a GRIS and found her instagram. Based on an interview with a Greek paper, she’s secretly TS.

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Definitely TS, she also flaked on our meet.
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Offline Greenchilli

I think we need a separate thread for TS on SA . That site is flooded :lol: