Nataliee_X - Heathrow

[dubhcarr]

How about you convince her to make cim/swallow extra at 20 and drop her base price back to 100?

exact......

[Jerk Chicken]

Throwing a few long word into a sentence doesn't make it sound intelligent. It simply confirms that not only do you not understand what is being said to you, you barely understand the bullshit that is dribbling from your slack jaw.

As you are still too dim to understand, here are the actual facts:

25/07/2019 - Jammer and You encourage an SP to increase her rates. And then proceed to shout down anyone that tries to shut you up, saying nothing said on UKP has any impact.
03/08/2019 - Less than a week later the SP has reprofiled with higher rates as supported by you. Some even could say you practically campaigned for it.
08/08/2019 - You are back on here shouting about how her new rates are justified. It's almost like you are still campaigning to put them up further! FFS!

In response to your only supporting argument: Even if she is good value at £120 ph, she was still much better value at £100 ph!!! 

This may only be circumstantial evidence, but it's pretty damning. The facts indicate that your contributions to this thread have not benefited other punters, inline with the ethos of this site. They have actually been detrimental. Encouraging an additional 20% on the cost of visiting this WG.

Are you still denying that posts on UKP have no impact on the way that WG's market themselves and the prices they charge?

As you seem to be completely oblivious to polite hints and direct requests, maybe this will get through your thick skull:

"STOP ENCOURAGING WG'S TO INCREASE THEIR PRICES!!!"

12 reviews in 2 years I take anything you post with a punch of salt. Start fucking and posting regular reviews bro that punters can gain value from rather than being a keyboard warrior!!!

[LLPunting]

12 reviews in 2 years I take anything you post with a punch of salt. Start fucking and posting regular reviews bro that punters can gain value from rather than being a keyboard warrior!!!

Unable to make a coherent case so now deflecting...  Are you fat, pathological and use volumiser on your comb-over?

[s0whatsnew?]

I saw Natali 2 days ago.  The same place as before (Heathrow),  she told me she has the same maid (recepsjon !) as before.  The exact same attitude as before.  To me it just doesn't seem logical that she's gone indy.  The clincher is the samey attitude; detached, unengaged.  Surely someone who's just struck out on her own would be fired up to offer superb customer service.

Have to admit some sour grapes here; I used to make her cum every time until she came to heathrow; since then, never.  So; maybe her friends should ram some really strong advice down her throat (as well as cock!) while there's still a chance for her to turn it round.   

[JonasG]

She sounds like your typical robotic WG fuck. A lot of guys are saying it seemingly.

The type of WG who does just enough that guys will give her a positive because she's fit and got a good body and wasn't noticeably awful. So her looks kinda negate her withdrawn attitude.

For me if you lack that enthusiasm and passion and then seeing a WG who is logically less attractive facially and body wise but gives far better umpth that is a far better experience. Irrespective if you cum in her mouth or not.

There's so many girls out there who give you that passion that you shouldn't see girls like this (I've not seen her, but other so called "rated" girls on here I have seen who fail big time on being real)

There's no fun in fucking someone fit who is detached.

[Jerk Chicken]

 

Unable to make a coherent case so now deflecting...  Are you fat, pathological and use volumiser on your comb-over?

So forum members let's look at the facts. Your last 5 reviews show 4 negatives and 1 nuetral. You may be a long standing contributor on here however your ability to sniff out decent pussy is questioned or perhaps you have lost it.

Those same reviews demonstrate you punt at the lower end of the market, nothing wrong wit that, however I can now see why you have been so vociferous in this thread.

I have nothing more to add on this thread. You have your views and I have my own.

Happy punting 

[Jerk Chicken]

Unable to make a coherent case so now deflecting...  Are you fat, pathological and use volumiser on your comb-over?

So a forum helper has now resorted to personal attacks by calling a fellow punter fat despite having no clue who the punter is ? Interesting .... is that the best you can do ?

[cotton]

Not everyone wants CIM/Swallow, others prioritise a more impassioned performance, creativity, enthusiasm...
All of that means that her £20 hike has no upside.

From a punter pov there is never any upside to any price increase !!
Irrespective of anything else paying £100 is better than paying £120 , suggesting or offering justification for any price rise seems to me to be a totally contrary to the site ethos which is putting the benefit of punters first , not ensuring a hooker maximises her earnings.

[cotton]

@PatMacGroin. Your well thought out comments are noted.

However I have never supported or encouraged a price increase when I will be a victim myself. That said I stand here as a voice of reason and am simply presenting the other side. Yes punters are moaning but the evidence is there. It is bloody hard to get those services at the price mooted .... so the alternative is what ? Find another SP and post the inevitable negative on UKP, wasting valuable queens heads!

Are you saying you only support or encourage a price increase when others will be a victim and not yourself ?  Selfish ?

[LLPunting]

So a forum helper has now resorted to personal attacks by calling a fellow punter fat despite having no clue who the punter is ? Interesting .... is that the best you can do ?

And there you have it, so limited of thought that you miss the joking reference to another master deflector.  Not interesting, just lamentable.

[LLPunting]

So forum members let's look at the facts. Your last 5 reviews show 4 negatives and 1 nuetral. You may be a long standing contributor on here however your ability to sniff out decent pussy is questioned or perhaps you have lost it.

Those same reviews demonstrate you punt at the lower end of the market, nothing wrong wit that, however I can now see why you have been so vociferous in this thread.

I have nothing more to add on this thread. You have your views and I have my own.

Happy punting

And finally the last resort of the perp with nowhere to run, "ooh, you only post negatives...".  So presumptious, so inept and so inexacting, but then we already new that last bit. 
Now that you're off to your corner perhaps you'll spend some time doing some quality thinking and actually figure out where you went wrong.

You've made a big splash with your sizeable early contribution here and that's appreciated, no idea how long you've actually been punting, but here's to you becoming a smarter punter rather than just an affluent whore-monger; been there and lost the T-shirt in some Vegas hotel.

[dubhcarr]

I saw Natali 2 days ago.  The same place as before (Heathrow),  she told me she has the same maid (recepsjon !) as before.  The exact same attitude as before.  To me it just doesn't seem logical that she's gone indy.  The clincher is the samey attitude; detached, unengaged.  Surely someone who's just struck out on her own would be fired up to offer superb customer service.

Have to admit some sour grapes here; I used to make her cum every time until she came to heathrow; since then, never.  So; maybe her friends should ram some really strong advice down her throat (as well as cock!) while there's still a chance for her to turn it round.   

interesting and I agree with your comments. She has changed in attitude since her year plus break and as someone who has met her in excess of 20 times I notice the difference and I probably wont be revisiting at the higher fee, it is not VFM for me.

[LLPunting]

She sounds like your typical robotic WG fuck. A lot of guys are saying it seemingly.

The type of WG who does just enough that guys will give her a positive because she's fit and got a good body and wasn't noticeably awful. So her looks kinda negate her withdrawn attitude.

For me if you lack that enthusiasm and passion and then seeing a WG who is logically less attractive facially and body wise but gives far better umpth that is a far better experience. Irrespective if you cum in her mouth or not.

There's so many girls out there who give you that passion that you shouldn't see girls like this (I've not seen her, but other so called "rated" girls on here I have seen who fail big time on being real)

There's no fun in fucking someone fit who is detached.

This counter-point seems to be unfortunately lost on Mr chicken-lover-lover.

What makes a good SP, not even a great one, is the consistency of her encouraging behaviour with all punters.  To be a great SP who may well justify a higher price a girl has to know how to enthuse every client.

Plenty of girls who can deliver a great punt but not consistently (whether with same or different punters) and that's the bulk of the Bell curve all serving up YMMV.  Many of us have seen girls who take a shine to us and give a little (or a lot) more but don't give up half as much to the unlucky sod they don't like, a seasoned punter expects this and knows how to spot the tells and may indeed be good enough to come here and tell the rest of us. 

[LLPunting]

interesting and I agree with your comments. She has changed in attitude since her year plus break and as someone who has met her in excess of 20 times I notice the difference and I probably wont be revisiting at the higher fee, it is not VFM for me.

Thanks for this veteran observation 

Out of interest did you usually partake of CIM/Swallow and a pussy pop most times you saw her?

[sunnyj]

Throwing a few long word into a sentence doesn't make it sound intelligent. It simply confirms that not only do you not understand what is being said to you, you barely understand the bullshit that is dribbling from your slack jaw.

As you are still too dim to understand, here are the actual facts:

25/07/2019 - Jammer and You encourage an SP to increase her rates. And then proceed to shout down anyone that tries to shut you up, saying nothing said on UKP has any impact.
03/08/2019 - Less than a week later the SP has reprofiled with higher rates as supported by you. Some even could say you practically campaigned for it.
08/08/2019 - You are back on here shouting about how her new rates are justified. It's almost like you are still campaigning to put them up further! FFS!

In response to your only supporting argument: Even if she is good value at £120 ph, she was still much better value at £100 ph!!! 

This may only be circumstantial evidence, but it's pretty damning. The facts indicate that your contributions to this thread have not benefited other punters, inline with the ethos of this site. They have actually been detrimental. Encouraging an additional 20% on the cost of visiting this WG.

Are you still denying that posts on UKP have no impact on the way that WG's market themselves and the prices they charge?

As you seem to be completely oblivious to polite hints and direct requests, maybe this will get through your thick skull:

"STOP ENCOURAGING WG'S TO INCREASE THEIR PRICES!!!"

+1
Also stop justifying price rise.

[dubhcarr]

Thanks for this veteran observation 

Out of interest did you usually partake of CIM/Swallow and a pussy pop most times you saw her?

I think once when I was knackered and realised I was not going to pop in the bag so she whipped the condom off and I CIM/swallow. Then Im usually one pop in a session and I do not want to waste it on CIM during initial BJ.   

[king tarzan]

Gosh all this crying over £20 price hike..
The hottie is in demand..
Does the treats at still VFM rate.. still much better than others .
Either go or don't..
Stop whining and dragging this £20 hike shit on and on.

[Jerk Chicken]

Gosh all this crying over £20 price hike..
The hottie is in demand..
Does the treats at still VFM rate.. still much better than others .
Either go or don't..
Stop whining and dragging this £20 hike shit on and on.

+1 

[dubhcarr]

Gosh all this crying over £20 price hike..
The hottie is in demand..
Does the treats at still VFM rate.. still much better than others .
Either go or don't..
Stop whining and dragging this £20 hike shit on and on.

not sure why you do not take your own advice
If you read the thread post or do not post depending on your point of contribution
Mr JC seems to have caused controversy as to his recommendations that SPs raise their prices with his justifications
Crazy position for me to comprehend as he has never visited this SP
so its not a valued contribution by me or other posters it seems
Some posters have a regard for VFM which judging by your reviews, you do not
This SP in my opinion has become poor value for my money due to her dwindling enthusiasm and reliance on CIM/swallow which is not required by me as normal
and so the price rise means for me I will not visit again although I have visited her many many times over the years plenty of SPs in her new price range
Other posters can make their minds up

[sunnyj]

Gosh all this crying over £20 price hike..
The hottie is in demand..
Does the treats at still VFM rate.. still much better than others .
Either go or don't..
Stop whining and dragging this £20 hike shit on and on.

Her price rise would have gone unnoticed like many other WGs if some users in this forum stopped justifying her price rise and moved on. 

[king tarzan]

Her price rise would have gone unnoticed like many other WGs if some users in this forum stopped justifying her price rise and moved on. 

Not going into ins and outs of price rise...
I didn't justify it or go against it..
It's there.. just go or don't go..
Simpletto..

[Jammer5011]

One thing maybe people aren’t considering is that the pound has also collapsed over the past weeks, might sound stupid but could be a factor 🤷‍♂️

[king tarzan]

One thing maybe people aren’t considering is that the pound has also collapsed over the past weeks, might sound stupid but could be a factor 🤷‍♂️

Eye of the 🦁🥊🥊

[dubhcarr]

One thing maybe people aren’t considering is that the pound has also collapsed over the past weeks, might sound stupid but could be a factor 🤷‍♂️

you know that this argument is inadmissible as its local money....wages rose 3.1% in the last year....its supply an demand and pricing is a control mechanism......

[Jerk Chicken]

I think the point he was making, but could be wrong,  is if she is sending the money back home then sterling no longer buys the same amount of euros as it did say 3 months ago.

[unus669]

If currency market fluctuations, are now a consideration

The obvious question is, when the £ gets stronger, will the price go down

[pong]

you know that this argument is inadmissible as its local money....wages rose 3.1% in the last year....its supply an demand and pricing is a control mechanism......

No. This money is going straight into Euro.

[king tarzan]

Now the currency exchange debate???

[cotton]

The point remains that where a service provider offers a service thats good value for money its not in punters interest to suggest or argue justification for her putting her prices up.
Theres an abundance of overpriced SPs so ffs why go telling the few decently priced ones to raise there prices in line.
Shes not putting her price up because of the exchange rate shes putting it up because somehow shes got it into her head that she can charge £120 and get away with it , time will tell if shes correct but hopefully she withers on the vine and becomes a victim of her own greed 

[PatMacGroin]

I saw Natali 2 days ago.  The same place as before (Heathrow),  she told me she has the same maid (recepsjon !) as before.  The exact same attitude as before.  To me it just doesn't seem logical that she's gone indy.  The clincher is the samey attitude; detached, unengaged.  Surely someone who's just struck out on her own would be fired up to offer superb customer service.

Have to admit some sour grapes here; I used to make her cum every time until she came to heathrow; since then, never.  So; maybe her friends should ram some really strong advice down her throat (as well as cock!) while there's still a chance for her to turn it round.   

Thanks for the recent info. It sounds like what I was expecting. She has not gone independent, it's just business as usual and re-profiling is just one of the usual tricks some WG's use to drum up extra business, especially if rumours of going independent make some punters hope for an improved service.

Remind me, who posted the first comment that started the rumour she was about to go independent? 

Don’t think the maid is great, but she did mention something about possibly going independent so that might help if she does 🤷‍♂️

I notice the OP is still posting comments trying to justify her price increase. And has now posted a 2nd review within 3 weeks for this same WG, under her new AW profile. His 2nd in a total off 3 reviews, with 11 out of 12 posts all being about this same SP. Usually touts aren't quite so blatant, but... Hmmmm...

[PatMacGroin]

12 reviews in 2 years I take anything you post with a punch of salt. Start fucking and posting regular reviews bro that punters can gain value from rather than being a keyboard warrior!!!

This is now my 8th post on this thread, compared to your 21. With almost three times as many posts as me, who looks like the keyboard warrior? I was actually trying to encourage you to wind your neck in a bit before you:
a) Get your wish and encourage a WG to raise her prices - Damn too late.
b) Make an even bigger fool of yourself - Damn too late there too.

OK. Obviously you have run out of turns to make in your twisty logic. No more ridiculous unrelated arguments to throw out. What tactic do you have left? Try to accuse me of being an unreliable contributor! 

Even though you are the guy that has barely been on the boards 6 months, but is drawing a lot of attention to himself with tout like comments encouraging price hikes. At the very least behaving like a foolish White Knight rushing in to defend WG's or other posters that you don't know the first thing about (beyond what you seem to have misread in various threads).

I'm done with this thread, this over-rated WG has already been given too much exposure. But, do yourself a favour, try to calm down a bit and think twice before rushing in on your big white charger.

[JonasG]

Yeah Jammer why positive review her twice in 3 weeks? What's the point?

Doesn't matter if it's a new profile, it's still the same girl.

[unus669]

Yeah Jammer why positive review her twice in 3 weeks? What's the point?

Doesn't matter if it's a new profile, it's still the same girl.

Thought the new rule is, same rating reviews, have to be at least 6 months apart

[Jammer5011]

Yeah Jammer why positive review her twice in 3 weeks? What's the point?

Doesn't matter if it's a new profile, it's still the same girl.

I was just making it known that for people who do like her service that it was still her and noting the price hike, don’t read too much into it, new here, assumed purpose of forum was to share information about sp’s.

I just can’t believe an innocent comment over a minor increase has caused such a debate, would have just expected people to simply make their mind up and accept the increase or not and don’t see her 🤷‍♂️

I’m not a mind reader but from previous reviews it did sound like it was bit of a conveyor belt under the old set up and possibility she was actually getting warm out and wanted to reduce clients slightly but still has same overheads 

[unus669]

I was just making it known that for people who do like her service that it was still her and noting the price hike, don’t read too much into it, new here, assumed purpose of forum was to share information about sp’s.

I just can’t believe an innocent comment over a minor increase has caused such a debate, would have just expected people to simply make their mind up and accept the increase or not and don’t see her 🤷‍♂️

I’m not a mind reader but from previous reviews it did sound like it was bit of a conveyor belt under the old set up and possibility she was actually getting warm out and wanted to reduce clients slightly but still has same overheads 

You can do that, by posting on your initial positive review, it’s against the rules, to post a same ratings review, every month

[Jammer5011]

You can do that, by posting on your initial positive review, it’s against the rules, to post a same ratings review, every month

Even if it’s a new profile? 🤔

[unus669]

Even if it’s a new profile? 🤔

Yes.

You could have followed up with comments, on your first review and indicate profile has changed. If you’re really worried, you could have informed a moderator about the new profile and they might have aligned both profiles.

[JonasG]

Even if it’s a new profile? 🤔

Yeah because it's still the same girl.

Her new profile review will just get linked with her old profile reviews.

[Jammer5011]

Yeah because it's still the same girl.

Her new profile review will just get linked with her old profile reviews.

Ok, good to know 

[Jerk Chicken]

This is now my 8th post on this thread, compared to your 21. With almost three times as many posts as me, who looks like the keyboard warrior? I was actually trying to encourage you to wind your neck in a bit before you:
a) Get your wish and encourage a WG to raise her prices - Damn too late.
b) Make an even bigger fool of yourself - Damn too late there too.

OK. Obviously you have run out of turns to make in your twisty logic. No more ridiculous unrelated arguments to throw out. What tactic do you have left? Try to accuse me of being an unreliable contributor! 

Even though you are the guy that has barely been on the boards 6 months, but is drawing a lot of attention to himself with tout like comments encouraging price hikes. At the very least behaving like a foolish White Knight rushing in to defend WG's or other posters that you don't know the first thing about (beyond what you seem to have misread in various threads).

I'm done with this thread, this over-rated WG has already been given too much exposure. But, do yourself a favour, try to calm down a bit and think twice before rushing in on your big white charger.

I am delighted you have called time on this tread. Punters want reviews that's means in plain English girls you have actually fucked and informed UKP of your experience. Don't hide. You have been on here 2 years 12 reviews, I registered in Jan 2019 and have doubled your reviews.

On other words you are a classic snitch  bro!

I rest my case!

[dubhcarr]

I am delighted you have called time on this tread. Punters want reviews that's means in plain English girls you have actually fucked and informed UKP of your experience. Don't hide. You have been on here 2 years 12 reviews, I registered in Jan 2019 and have doubled your reviews.

On other words you are a classic snitch  bro!

I rest my case!

not sure what your point is her Mr JC cos Mr PMcG has both visited and reviewed this SP wheras you have not. 

[Kev40ish]

I am delighted you have called time on this tread. Punters want reviews that's means in plain English girls you have actually fucked and informed UKP of your experience. Don't hide. You have been on here 2 years 12 reviews, I registered in Jan 2019 and have doubled your reviews.

On other words you are a classic snitch  bro!

I rest my case!

This isn’t a fucking pissing contest. Well done for your reviews.. it’s as much about your contribution to the site and how you come across

Your losing in my opinion..

[smiths]

The point remains that where a service provider offers a service thats good value for money its not in punters interest to suggest or argue justification for her putting her prices up.
Theres an abundance of overpriced SPs so ffs why go telling the few decently priced ones to raise there prices in line.
Shes not putting her price up because of the exchange rate shes putting it up because somehow shes got it into her head that she can charge £120 and get away with it , time will tell if shes correct but hopefully she withers on the vine and becomes a victim of her own greed 

Fucking well right, any punter who posts about WGs raising her price as she is worth it or some such like shit and/or saying they advised her to do so are fuckwits of the lowest order in my book. Will they pay the new rate or arranged to continue to pay the old one, I certainly wouldn't trust them. The now departed redcab did this with 1 WG, the deal was he continued to pay her old rate while other punters had to pay the new one. Only problem was she didn't keep to the deal but did increase her prices as he advised, net result ALL her punters had to pay more due to some selfish git.

I bet the same people don't advise their energy company to raise their prices or anyone else they do direct business with.

[LLPunting]

not sure what your point is her Mr JC cos Mr PMcG has both visited and reviewed this SP wheras you have not. 

Mr JC is waving his metaphorical cock because he lost the original argument and hasn't the humility to admit it to the rest of us.  Far from being a "big" man he's a spoilt child spitting out his retainer and telling mommy that the older boys are bullying him as he sucks his thumb in his pedal car. 

[Jerk Chicken]

not sure what your point is her Mr JC cos Mr PMcG has both visited and reviewed this SP wheras you have not. 

The point I am making, if indeed it has been lost in this thread, is 1. This is not about this SP per se but the moans n groans about a well reviewed  SP are pathetic. If £20 is steep increase for many don't go n fuck her. Move on. 2. 12 reviews in 2 years to me means if we all followed this review rate UKP would be dead. So forgive me if I treat anything with that review record with a pinch of salt.

[Jerk Chicken]

Mr JC is waving his metaphorical cock because he lost the original argument and hasn't the humility to admit it to the rest of us.  Far from being a "big" man he's a spoilt child spitting out his retainer and telling mommy that the older boys are bullying him as he sucks his thumb in his pedal car.

Errr no. As I have previously said, to me, you no longer have the ability to sniff out a decent punt. Your last 5 reviews demonstrate this. Some may say that is bad luck. I say the punter (you) can't spot decent pussy even if is plastered across your face. Time to hang up your dick bro!!'

[LLPunting]

Errr no. As I have previously said, to me, you no longer have the ability to sniff out a decent punt. Your last 5 reviews demonstrate this. Some may say that is bad luck. I say the punter (you) can't spot decent pussy even if is plastered across your face. Time to hang up your dick bro!!'

Yup, you've shown your small mind has limited capacity for thought, no ability to do research and it seems you've suffered a buffer overflow.  Be careful swimming around your bowl, you might forget the way to your little fort.

[dubhcarr]

The point I am making, if indeed it has been lost in this thread, is 1. This is not about this SP per se but the moans n groans about a well reviewed  SP are pathetic. If £20 is steep increase for many don't go n fuck her. Move on. 2. 12 reviews in 2 years to me means if we all followed this review rate UKP would be dead. So forgive me if I treat anything with that review record with a pinch of salt.

well when you have reviewed as extensively as The Don or Mr Pumps or even me then you can lecture others. It is not wise as MR The Don is a generous resource to this forum and brings a continuity that a newbie cannot. There have been so many like you as Mr Smiths illustrates preaching and not appreciating the point or principle. I review on value and you must remember that paid sex is all about the money solely....

[smiths]

Errr no. As I have previously said, to me, you no longer have the ability to sniff out a decent punt. Your last 5 reviews demonstrate this. Some may say that is bad luck. I say the punter (you) can't spot decent pussy even if is plastered across your face. Time to hang up your dick bro!!'

So you think a punters reviews on here are ALL the punts they have, whereas for all you know a punter may only review some of their punts as I do though I will always post a negative review. No idea about LL. So a review record isn't necessarily a good indication of a punters punting history in reality. A now gone long term member used to try to use this same reasoning to undermine punters who he disagreed with.

[Jerk Chicken]

So you think a punters reviews on here are ALL the punts they have, whereas for all you know a punter may only review some of their punts as I do though I will always post a negative review. No idea about LL. So a review record isn't necessarily a good indication of a punters punting history in reality. A now gone long term member used to try to use this same reasoning to undermine punters who he disagreed with.

Not at all bro. I am simply pointing out that, to me, I can see why @LLpunting has been so vociferous in this debate crying like a baby because a pro has increased her price by 20 queens heads. I am not gonna second guess here or try to make up assumptions to support my stance. 4 negatives and 1 nuetral in 5 punts the facts speak for themselves. If you focus on price only that will be the outcome. This is true in most services we buy be it pussy or employing a builder etc.