Author Topic: Feature request: profile indexing for agency reviews  (Read 1381 times)

Offline TheOracle

One thing I never understood is why it's not possible for agency reviews to be treated similarly as to the AW ones and be threaded in a single profile-related page for the escort. It would be good and it would allow to cross-correlate reviews for the same girls when they get referred to with different names from different agencies.

Offline The Film Director

Even though I rarely see agency girls these days, would totally agree.  :thumbsup:

Would save Tomato Sauce & Waffles a lot of effort for the London reviews as well.

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One thing I never understood is why it's not possible for agency reviews to be treated similarly as to the AW ones and be threaded in a single profile-related page for the escort. It would be good and it would allow to cross-correlate reviews for the same girls when they get referred to with different names from different agencies.

do you not think that making "feature requests" at this time are a little insensitive while the admin team are trying their best to keep the site up and running without the instruction manual

Offline whiskyfan

One thing I never understood is why it's not possible for agency reviews to be treated similarly as to the AW ones and be threaded in a single profile-related page for the escort. It would be good and it would allow to cross-correlate reviews for the same girls when they get referred to with different names from different agencies.

AW reviews are correlated by making clever use of the unique 7 digit AW profile number. That's why there's also no correlation for reviews from  Vivastreet, Birchplace, Escort-Scotland, etc as there's nothing to hang a system onto. What would you suggest is used as the unique identifier for agency girls?
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do you not think that making "feature requests" at this time are a little insensitive while the admin team are trying their best to keep the site up and running without the instruction manual

Exactly this. If OldAdmin couldn't do it, and he wrote code for various features to suit the way the site works, how do you expect the new team to without the inside knowledge.

OP I think there's more than one thing you don't understand. Some people are just beyond belief.

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Not implying the owners should do this, but it’s fairly easy to link based on last token in the URL.

External Link/Members Only

Here is the regex to extract the name url.match(/\/([^/]*)$/)[1] = brunette-olinka
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Not implying the owners should do this, but it’s fairly easy to link based on last token in the URL.

External Link/Members Only

Here is the regex to extract the name url.match(/\/([^/]*)$/)[1] = brunette-olinka

Are you saying this could be done automatically whenever anyone posts a link to an escort, or does it need to ba added manually.

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Exactly this. If OldAdmin couldn't do it, .

Couldn't or didn't ?
Perhaps he was not minded to focus efforts to promote pimps  :unknown:

Offline whiskyfan

Not implying the owners should do this, but it’s fairly easy to link based on last token in the URL.

External Link/Members Only

Here is the regex to extract the name url.match(/\/([^/]*)$/)[1] = brunette-olinka

That bases the indexing on the name. Trouble is names change and girls often use different names for different agencies which was the point of the OP's initial post. Plus agency pages are often recycled for new girls. I'll ask the question again, what unique identifier would you use to base the system on?
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Couldn't or didn't ?
Perhaps he was not minded to focus efforts to promote pimps  :unknown:

Couldn't, it was a thing he was trying to achieve.

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That bases the indexing on the name. Trouble is names change and girls often use different names for different agencies which was the point of the OP's initial post. Plus agency pages are often recycled for new girls. I'll ask the question again, what unique identifier would you use to base the system on?

Yes one of the better features of AW is that this number is truly unique. Technically you could link other things such as names but it would soon become very flawed and corrupted.

Offline Fully Sated

I too would really love to see this feature, Old Admins comments below;

Exactly this. If OldAdmin couldn't do it, and he wrote code for various features to suit the way the site works, how do you expect the new team to without the inside knowledge...

...the current indexing system depends on AW profile ID, the upgrade has been on my to-do list for years but it's going to happen soon, I've already started work on it, just need an hour or two to complete it.

Have stickied this thread at the top so I don't forget about it  :D

The problem with adding this feature is that I have to bring the whole site down for 30 plus mins to complete it, which basically puts me off from doing it.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=184431.msg1934983#msg1934983
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Offline jeanphillipe

I too would really love to see this feature, Old Admins comments below;

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=184431.msg1934983#msg1934983

Bless him, by the end, he really had lost all passion for this site.
Hope his new endeavours are keeping him fullfilled.

It would be awesome to have the other sites do the same as AW but as others have mentioned admins already have their handsfull.... food for thought for the future tho.
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There were a couple of upgrades he hinted at that were more or less ready, but were never implemented:

indexing of Vivastreet accounts (and if he could do that then Gumtree should be possible)
linking of duplicate Adultwork accounts (link a new account to an old one, and all the old reviews also get indexed to the new)

The problem is that Vivastreet accounts are so transient (and to a lesser extent so are Gumtree ones) that there has to be a question as to whether there would be any point to doing it

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The indexing system for aw profiles is not working properly as it is, for some time the indexers are doing the job but the aggregate figures are not showing and fooling some.
One girl has aggregate 0 0 0 but look a little deeper all her 3 reviews are negative. the third missing the previous 2 because of this.

Let the new boys fix what has gone wrong in take over before requiring more.

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I'm not suggesting its looked at now, but a possible "nice-to-have" for the future would be the ability to index reviews to phone numbers as well as profiles, should make it easier to spot fake / duplicate profiles

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do you not think that making "feature requests" at this time are a little insensitive while the admin team are trying their best to keep the site up and running without the instruction manual

No.

Offline TheOracle

AW reviews are correlated by making clever use of the unique 7 digit AW profile number. That's why there's also no correlation for reviews from  Vivastreet, Birchplace, Escort-Scotland, etc as there's nothing to hang a system onto. What would you suggest is used as the unique identifier for agency girls?

Crowdsourcing and correlation of identifiers with the original one, which seems to be exactly what happens when girls get multiple ids over time on AW. URLs are also identifiers more or less as reliable as AW ids.

Offline TheOracle

Exactly this. If OldAdmin couldn't do it, and he wrote code for various features to suit the way the site works, how do you expect the new team to without the inside knowledge.

OP I think there's more than one thing you don't understand. Some people are just beyond belief.

OldAdmin was a single person, the new team seem to include multiple people.

There's surely many things I don't understand, but the feasibility of a software feature is not one of them, by the way.

Offline TheOracle

Are you saying this could be done automatically whenever anyone posts a link to an escort, or does it need to ba added manually.

I'm not sure how the current AW indexing works, but the posts seem to be indexed somewhat manually, or at least that's what the text that appears on the posts states (that the indexing is performed by people).

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Couldn't or didn't ?
Perhaps he was not minded to focus efforts to promote pimps  :unknown:

Uhm, why would making reviews for the same escort easier to find promote pimps? On the contrary, at the moment it's harder to find reviews for agency girls and that causes a lack of information, that tends to leave people in the dark about bad performers.

Offline TheOracle

That bases the indexing on the name. Trouble is names change and girls often use different names for different agencies which was the point of the OP's initial post. Plus agency pages are often recycled for new girls. I'll ask the question again, what unique identifier would you use to base the system on?

It is obvious that given there is often nothing other than the pictures that allows to correlate these girls over multiple pages, short of putting together an automated system based on photographic matching (which is obviously not what I would expect a site like this one to put in place), one would have to rely on community contributions.

When one posts a review about an AW girl there seems to be manual work to actually index the review, and profiles for the same girl over time get manually correlated (I realised that yesterday when looking at the profile page for Antonia AA which had reviews from her previous profiles as well), so my question was basically: if the indexing is manual and older profiles get collated manually, why don't we just do the same for agency profiles?

Offline TheOracle

Yes one of the better features of AW is that this number is truly unique. Technically you could link other things such as names but it would soon become very flawed and corrupted.

So unique that there are girls who change it every day...

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The indexing system for aw profiles is not working properly as it is, for some time the indexers are doing the job but the aggregate figures are not showing and fooling some.
One girl has aggregate 0 0 0 but look a little deeper all her 3 reviews are negative. the third missing the previous 2 because of this.

Let the new boys fix what has gone wrong in take over before requiring more.

Not sure why the new forum population is so oversensitive, but feature requests are not demands for immediate executions coming from any kind of entitlement... They express a users' preferences and are generally interesting information over what priorities when facing limited resources and various options on what to focus the development on.

In other words, rather than, say, a chat feature for members, I'd like to see agency indexing: it's quite obvious that if the new owners have no spare time or resources to work on similar things they will simply ignore, but I was assuming that the new team would have new energy to progress with the implementation.

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I'm not sure how the current AW indexing works, but the posts seem to be indexed somewhat manually, or at least that's what the text that appears on the posts states (that the indexing is performed by people).

It is manual - one of the tasks the "helpers" usually carry out

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...................... and profiles for the same girl over time get manually correlated (I realised that yesterday when looking at the profile page for Antonia AA which had reviews from her previous profiles as well).....................

I cross matched a lot of those, but its by no means complete - I'm certain theres an even older profile which also needs the reviews reindexing

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Crowdsourcing and correlation of identifiers with the original one, which seems to be exactly what happens when girls get multiple ids over time on AW. URLs are also identifiers more or less as reliable as AW ids.

URL's most certainly are not reliable identifiers, particularly for agency profiles. Have seen the chaos and confusion caused in the past on another site when people have tried to link up reviews that way.

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I'm not sure how the current AW indexing works, but the posts seem to be indexed somewhat manually, or at least that's what the text that appears on the posts states (that the indexing is performed by people).

The way the AW indexing system works is if you post a link in a thread or review, that includes the AW number, any reviews are automatically shown below the post. When you post a review that review has to be indexed manually by one of the helpers to be included in the total.

Offline TheOracle

URL's most certainly are not reliable identifiers, particularly for agency profiles. Have seen the chaos and confusion caused in the past on another site when people have tried to link up reviews that way.

They are just as reliable as AW profiles, which frequently change hands so you end up finding different girls under the same ID. Crowdsourcing is the only solution.