Treat her well!?!?

[Marmalade]

Yep, your reports are fairly short on feelings, context, colour, or anything bar the actual details, so nothing that can be called fluff, and of course, everyone else should follow your example, do the same, play 'follow my leader'. Enjoyment is banned, just cold hard facts, and nowt else.

You're being a a pranoid twat. I express a view. You express yours.

Using phrases like "treat her well" on here won't get you very far. I've been around long enough to see the demise of thousands of members so take it as a friendly hint, not an accusation.

[Sattob]

You're being a a pranoid twat.

Dude, seriously. You said that reviews with fluff should be deleted, and then moan because I say that people should be given freedom to post reviews at they see fit. We're not in a totalitarianist state, just chill, allow people choice. Seriously uncool sentiments man, just be a cool cat, and let people post, and if you don't like it, ignore their reviews. I've been lurking for ages, and some reviews are so full of fluff that I roll on, and let them be, and some are so cold that you don't get any colour. Something in between is fine, no? Seriously though dude, chill.

[Marmalade]

Everyone is free to post in the way they like, and review in the way they like as long as it is within the rules (and at Admin's ruling, within the ethos of the forum).

The purpose of the forum is to exchange useful information to help other punters get value for money when paying for sex. A lot of 'colour' in a review is maybe etertaining, but not the purpose, and it means it takes longer to sort through reviews for another serious punter (who wants to book a prossie rather than be 'entertained' by a review.)

It isn't a pissing contest. Although personally I'll choose to take an attitude at times to get a point across, thye actual way that UKP functions is almost mathematical in its transparency. Fluffy reviews are an abuse, but generally tolerated up to a point if the person isn't a complete dick (since everybody has to learn). The only 'police' of any kind is Admin. One person. One guy with an honest mission. It is his hard work, very hard work, and his money, his and his alone, that enables this site, from which everyone benefits. He does a pretty amazing job in my opinion. Taking the piss is sometimes human: persisting at it is being a cunt. I'm simply expressing a logical system. There's never anything personal from me at least, even if you read it that way. I state the facts. If someone acts like a cunt I treat them accordingly, and if they grow up in the next post i treat them accordingly. There's no grudges or agendas (I'm simply not emotionally interested in the forum or its members to feel emotionally involved, but I think Admin has produced something pretty good and like to support it.)

In terms of reviewing and serious contributions for punters, I aim to 'pay my way' in the sense of when I get something from the forum I try to put something back in. Most of my punting just now is overseas and, without wanting to give my itineraries away to all and sundry, try to assist in threads where I think I can help or on the UKP Wiki. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Admin. I also stopped more or less posting reviews on the region where my base is as it was dominated by fluffies. That's maybe changing a bit. Hopefully. I enjoy interaction with other men, not with little boys and prossies' pets.

[Marmalade]

I've been lurking for ages

You still have a lot to learn 

[Sattob]

He's not saying enjoyment should be banned or that everyone should write as he does. He is however expressing frustration that he has wade through a lot of irrelevant shite before he can find the salient points. As he alludes to, the purpose of this site is not to provide wank fodder for the reviewer or the people reading it! I for one agree with him but I think some people would only post reviews if they're allowed to "relive the moment" in full so if it's that vs less reviews then I suppose it has to be that. Any other system would likely be unworkable anyway.

I do however think that some elucidation of "feelings" is important as sometimes it can be hard to articulate why a punt was good or bad - so it's a way of describing your opinion. Having said that, it is often hard to maintain objectivity but it's up to both the reviewer (mainly) and the reader to assess that. I don't think he said he was against feelings anyway, just all the unnecessary detail and waffle.

I guess it's all about how much 'fluff' is right. As you've said, quite rightly, we need some colour. Some reviews have been too full of the story, and not enough of the relevant content.

What I mean by enjoyment is this. If a reviewer writes, say, 'I normally wouldn't book, but I was busting a nut', I find that interesting, and it adds 'enjoyment'. Sometimes the descriptions of the locations can be amusing, like describing a place which makes it seem like downtown Aleppo, and yes, that can bring a smile. That's what I'm saying. Maybe the word 'enjoyment' has been misunderstood? As for enjoyment on a different level, well, if a writer clearly in the words, and the choice of grammar is showing great pleasure, and says how good it was, and describes the act I'm interested in, say 'she knew how to lick', and the looks 'amazing and natural boobs', well, yes, it does bring a mental image to mind, which is pleasant, and will probably illicit that girl being added to my HL.

Apologies if the word 'enjoyment' was unclear, but that's what I meant.

[NigelF]

I guess it's all about how much 'fluff' is right. As you've said, quite rightly, we need some colour. Some reviews have been too full of the story, and not enough of the relevant content.

What I mean by enjoyment is this. If a reviewer writes, say, 'I normally wouldn't book, but I was busting a nut', I find that interesting, and it adds 'enjoyment'. Sometimes the descriptions of the locations can be amusing, like describing a place which makes it seem like downtown Aleppo, and yes, that can bring a smile. That's what I'm saying. Maybe the word 'enjoyment' has been misunderstood? As for enjoyment on a different level, well, if a writer clearly in the words, and the choice of grammar is showing great pleasure, and says how good it was, and describes the act I'm interested in, say 'she knew how to lick', and the looks 'amazing and natural boobs', well, yes, it does bring a mental image to mind, which is pleasant, and will probably illicit that girl being added to my HL.

Apologies if the word 'enjoyment' was unclear, but that's what I meant.

I think I'm getting a clearer picture of what you mean and actually I'm pretty sure I agree with you. The mental images as you describe them are probably rather subconscious which isn't necessarily ideal but they probably do help but probably not as much as you think or at least you're getting a bit carried away with your enjoyment (IMO). As for phrases like "I normally wouldn't book, but I was busting a nut" - I do think they're relevant as they add context and could clearly influence the punter's state of mind at the time and therefore the review. To be fair I think you did mention context in your previous post and I forgot to say that that is important as well but only up to a point (where it starts becoming irrelevant). As for comedy, yeah I am a fan of that so don't mind wading through it although I accept that is not the point of the forum either. It is however really bad when it's not funny but they think it is.

[Sattob]

. As for comedy, yeah I am a fan of that so don't mind wading through it although I accept that is not the point of the forum either. It is however really bad when it's not funny but they think it is.

Oh yes, especially when the joke is repeated (I won't repeat my joke about treat her well, in my last report again!)

[NigelF]

Oh yes, especially when the joke is repeated (I won't repeat my joke about treat her well, in my last report again!)

I had a quick look at your reviews and I don't think they're too bad. Anything irrelevant is kept short and you don't really have to wade through through anything. I think you are easily pleased but at least you don't shy away from mentioning negative points but you might not give them the prominence they deserve although I suppose it really depends on what you wanted from the punt.

Anyway, just keep reviewing and any flaws will pale into insignificance in the face of your sheer contribution, as you can probably tell from my review count - that's my methodology! 

[Sattob]

I think you are easily pleased but at least you don't shy away from mentioning negative points but you might not give them the prominence they deserve

Thanks for the feedback. I'll add a small rider to the last one, and incorporate it in the body going forward.

[two20]

I think this guy must have Mills & Boon pretensions, he seems to forget he was paying £800 for the privilege.  External Link/Members Only

[vw]

I think this guy must have Mills & Boon pretensions, he seems to forget he was paying £800 for the privilege.  External Link/Members Only

This one the short links don't work for field reports

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[rebelscum]

Finished that field report with another classic 'what happened inside will remain between us'....

[Brazilian Martian]

Finished that field report with another classic 'what happened inside will remain between us'....

That one pisses me off big time, like they are in a relationship the whole gentlemen never tell routine. 

[vw]

That one pisses me off big time, like they are in a relationship the whole gentlemen never tell routine. 

Well seems he only booked her to be seen out with a girl arm in arm for the first time.

I was one proud and lucky guy as 'arm in arm' we made our way to the restaurant.

[fairfield]

I think this guy must have Mills & Boon pretensions, he seems to forget he was paying £800 for the privilege.  External Link/Members Only

£800 quid for a rom - the guy must be barking, never mind M & B.

[cash2spare]

I'm thinking lots of these glowing references are from the pimp or a fellow WG myself, total bollocks.