Author Topic: Thank you and fare thee well, Admin!  (Read 34475 times)

Offline atmos

As others have said - a simple 'Thanks' to oldAdmin for all his hard work.
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Offline mh

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Prollie.

I'll get me coat  :D

Well that's exactly how I read it too...

Offline Steve2

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Also, whilst still tinkering, some members ma have noticed that Steve2 was also being shown as a mod. I can't see this anymore, so I assume that Head1 was still practising on this site.

I was but the settings meant that I couldn't access any threads so unmodded for the time being

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Well although I am not around myself much now I felt I ought to comment on this news.

Firstly, unlike most people in the thread, I can't say I am surprised at the news. My only surprise is that he did it for nothing and at some cost to himself for so long.

Couple of great posts from Marmalade in this thread that sum up well. I can only echo the fact that without Admin UKP wouldn't have succeeded. Although I started it and was owner from August 2010 to December 2012 Admin effectively ran the show from day one and without him it wouldn't have lasted. Talk about a lucky break!
I made plenty of mistakes in the early days. One was banning Smiths - he has since forgiven me!  :blush:  Another was registering it as ukpunting.com rather than co.uk.  Admin pointed this out to me but it was too late.  He was always there to (metaphorically) hold my hand and reassure me when we were being attacked left right and centre in unsuccessful bids to get us closed down. As I have repeatedly said there are some terrible people of both sexes in this business making money out of it and the last thing they wanted was someone coming along and disrupting this by calling out their poor service, lies and scams of which there are, and always will be, plenty.

It has been speculated that I may return on a more regular basis, but this won't happen as I don't punt. I haven't had one since the two with Michelle and Nicoletta in London last August and haven't had a local one for six years now and the way I feel these days I doubt I will punt again. I can't see the point in logging into a punting forum regularly if I don't punt. I am still occasionally in contact with JRC and have informed him about the changes here, but he won't return as he too no longer punts.
My biggest regret as far as UKP is concerned is that we didn't get it off the ground at least ten years earlier when I was punting regularly as, apart from anything else, I would have been able to contribute a lot more reviews. Even by 2010 my punting was nowhere near what it had been 10 / 20 years earlier.

I still pop in occasionally but don't spend very long as in all honesty punting matters don't interest me very much now. However I hope do UKP continues to go from strength to strength and the ethos is maintained as it is great to see how it has benefited so many, which was my original vision. And once again massive thanks to Admin and his incredible and selfless contribution over many years.  :drinks:

Good to hear from you, Nik

And (of course) as so many others have said: thanks to “old” Admin for so much effort, skill, and many amusing comments on banning various miscreants.
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Offline pewpewpew

Just want to say thanks to Admin and to Nik for this site. Been an invaluable source of information, not just for prossies I have booked but all related topics such as using a punting phone, safety etc.

Good luck with whatever you guys do

Offline Marmalade

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Quote from: Nik
I still pop in occasionally but don't spend very long

Good to hear from you Nik. What’s the next book topic?
Regards to JRC if you happen to speak to him. I hope Jacob knows we remember him too.

It’s getting confusing with the number of Admins  :D  but I gather ‘OldAdmin’ isn’t accepting PMs otherwise I would have messaged him. Strange how in the early days most of us even ‘knew’ each other’s actual names, but it got so big it wouldn’t do to remember them now even in PMs. But there was a sort of friendship there, even with our differences. There’s some great people on the site today, some real troopers, but with Admin finally bowing out it as well as yourself and the other originators it does feel like saying farewell to a whole generation.

All the best.

 :drinks:

Offline bonapati

Thanks for  all the good work. Mind how you go!

Offline char45

Just another thanks to Admin for his efforts. Apart from how much money and time he's saved us the forum is an impressive technical achievement.  Good luck to Head

Offline mattismyname

Good to hear from you Nik. What’s the next book topic?
Regards to JRC if you happen to speak to him. I hope Jacob knows we remember him too.

It’s getting confusing with the number of Admins  :D  but I gather ‘OldAdmin’ isn’t accepting PMs otherwise I would have messaged him. Strange how in the early days most of us even ‘knew’ each other’s actual names, but it got so big it wouldn’t do to remember them now even in PMs. But there was a sort of friendship there, even with our differences. There’s some great people on the site today, some real troopers, but with Admin finally bowing out it as well as yourself and the other originators it does feel like saying farewell to a whole generation.

All the best.

 :drinks:


OldAdmin did leave a leave a contact email address on a post on UKE if you want to get in touch fyi

Offline NIK

Good to hear from you Nik. What’s the next book topic?
Regards to JRC if you happen to speak to him. I hope Jacob knows we remember him too.

It’s getting confusing with the number of Admins  :D  but I gather ‘OldAdmin’ isn’t accepting PMs otherwise I would have messaged him. Strange how in the early days most of us even ‘knew’ each other’s actual names, but it got so big it wouldn’t do to remember them now even in PMs. But there was a sort of friendship there, even with our differences. There’s some great people on the site today, some real troopers, but with Admin finally bowing out it as well as yourself and the other originators it does feel like saying farewell to a whole generation.

All the best.

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Yes we must remember the value of the early mods Softlad and Jacob, especially the latter’s sterling work in exposing AW scammers. He certainly came in for a lot of stick from them for that.
Although I had contact with and knew of some of the original members prior to UKP through the site that shall not be named, such as yourself, Old Admin (feels weird calling him that!) and JRC, I hadn’t as far as I was aware, had any previous communication with Softlad and Jacob, although of course virtually everyone, apart from Jimmy and myself changed their PN names when they joined UKP.
I actually met Softlad once - good guy, but even then he suggested he would prioritise relationships over punting, and I think that’s what happened. Never really knew Jacob but in the very early days he was the most valuable member after Admin himself. I did hear he had health problems and I only hope he’s okay.
Just a shout out to Jackdaw too who posted earlier in this thread as he has always been supportive going back to the days pre UKP.

If I am not around much or forget here’s to the ninth birthday August 16th.
Maybe we can have a big bash on the tenth! :drinks:

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Yes we must remember the value of the early mods Softlad and Jacob, especially the latter’s sterling work in exposing AW scammers. He certainly came in for a lot of stick from them for that.
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Thank you NIK and Marmelade for the reminder of the early days and calling out the others who helped with the graft. I wasn't there but it really does feel like a full changing of the guard. I was moved to log into my old PN account that I hadn't used for 10-12 years maybe more. Besides being shocked to see I registered in 1999 when that site was launched, I was appalled at what it looks like now. I was even more appalled at the one review left of mine that wasn't deleted. If I saw it here now, I'd be first to call the reviewer a fluffy cunt.

Thank you for bringing honesty to our voices.

Offline lolmail

Thanks to the old Admin for the hard work in keeping this site going  :hi:

Like other have said, this site has been a source of great learning and sharing.

Welcome to the new Admin.

Offline RogerBoner

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Thank you old Admin. The written record of the happiest moments in my life are on UKE and on here. I have shed a tear and I love you a bit.

Offline cunnyhunt

Yes we must remember the value of the early mods Softlad and Jacob, especially the latter’s sterling work in exposing AW scammers. He certainly came in for a lot of stick from them for that.


If it was not for Jacob I could not have kept up with the forum moving when the site was persistantly attacked.

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Many, many thanks to OA for all the efforts he put into building his site up and trying to keep it sound.   :hi:  :drinks:  :thumbsup:

Best of luck to the new team, wish you every success in your endeavours to further the site's reputation and utility.   :drinks:

Offline unclepokey

Goodness me! I take a few days off to holiday in Devon and old admin is replaced by new admin.
My grateful thanks to the former and best wishes to the latter.
Uncle Pokey  :hi:

Offline tantric talents

Had my head under a stone for a few weeks and it seems I was not alone.
What can one add?
Adam did just a brilliant job; consistently and fairly with no personal gain.
Over the past years visiting this site has been like meeting old friends for irregular drinks and sharing frequent laughs and good times - well certainly good women ;)
The work you have put in is incalculable and I really believe has improved the lives and wellbeing of many who have regularly visited this place.

Have a fantastic retirement and the very best to the new admin Head1 who I am sure will deserve and get our continuing support.
Goodbye A.. and hello H  :thumbsup: :drinks: :hi:

Offline Happylad

Having been away for a couple of weeks I was dismayed when I saw this Thread.  We all owe a great debt to Admin for his efforts on this site, and I have a personal debt to him for his support when certain malicious (and completely groundless) accusations were made against me on another site.

Thank you Admin; enjoy your retirement to the full (although at 90 I must warn you that it ain`t always all it`s sometimes cracked up to be)

Offline smellychip

Thank you Admin and to everyone who keeps this site (a great resource and a good laugh too) running. Admin - enjoy your "retirement"  :yahoo:

Offline Billy the kid

Ditto all comments.
I’m a relative newbie - but had significant benefit from this excellent site and community from the first.

All the best to you, old and new.

 :drinks:

 :hi:

Offline winkywanky

It's clear everyone here (including myself) has nothing but thanks and respect for what Admin did in his long time here. He ran this place very well for the benefit of all the members, and provided a much-needed service for everyone, including WGs.

It just almost seems a little at odds with the handover to the new team that's taken place, though. It's as if Admin has disappeared without trace and has no willingness to assist in the somewhat difficult and arduous changeover. Or perhaps he's not being allowed to? I have no idea if any money has changed hands, and it's none of my business. I know nothing of the world of websites, but I do find it all a little strange.

Offline jok32

Well that's unexpected, finding out about this reading the massage thread

Thank you for all the hard work OldAdmin you have put in to make the site grow and flourish.
Let's hope the future remains bright

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It's clear everyone here (including myself) has nothing but thanks and respect for what Admin did in his long time here. He ran this place very well for the benefit of all the members, and provided a much-needed service for everyone, including WGs.

It just almost seems a little at odds with the handover to the new team that's taken place, though. It's as if Admin has disappeared without trace and has no willingness to assist in the somewhat difficult and arduous changeover. Or perhaps he's not being allowed to? I have no idea if any money has changed hands, and it's none of my business. I know nothing of the world of websites, but I do find it all a little strange.

Having once contemplated a ‘handover’ (not software) of a complex one-man job I see it slightly differently. I started compiling a manual as the ‘responsible thing to do’ but soon realised it was going to be almost a full time job in itself.

Taking something on, especially as in OldAdmin’s case in a non-paid capacity where it’s almost like a hobby, and when it is something of a ‘rescue’ operation, frequently involves customising things on-the-hoof, putting in many fixes just to make the thing work properly. Each of those fixes might take just a short time to do but would take ages to describe. And anyway, a written ‘log’ wouldn’t be part of the job: the job would be to get it working.

This was not a commercial venture and I’m sure the handover would’ve been with the product “as is” — not with guarantees or the offer of some after-sales service. Additionally, when you transfer servers, some degree of risk and adjustment is involved. I was going to suggest comparisons (like moving from M$oft to Mac, or Dropbox to iCloud, they’re very inexact and only analogy, but you don’t expect Bill Gates to sort you out when your highly customised Office program fucks up a bit on your Mac).

If the new owners want OldAdmin to help out then I would think they should pay top commercial rates, but that would undermine the whole basis of UKP. I suggest we stop moaning and let Head1’s team, with whatever help techie members can offer, do their best. We’ve got a working UKP site, even if you’re not allowed to say the word prοssie prοssie prοssie. Hehe...

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Having once contemplated a ‘handover’ (not software) of a complex one-man job I see it slightly differently. I started compiling a manual as the ‘responsible thing to do’ but soon realised it was going to be almost a full time job in itself.

Taking something on, especially as in OldAdmin’s case in a non-paid capacity where it’s almost like a hobby, and when it is something of a ‘rescue’ operation, frequently involves customising things on-the-hoof, putting in many fixes just to make the thing work properly. Each of those fixes might take just a short time to do but would take ages to describe. And anyway, a written ‘log’ wouldn’t be part of the job: the job would be to get it working.

This was not a commercial venture and I’m sure the handover would’ve been with the product “as is” — not with guarantees or the offer of some after-sales service. Additionally, when you transfer servers, some degree of risk and adjustment is involved. I was going to suggest comparisons (like moving from M$oft to Mac, or Dropbox to iCloud, they’re very inexact and only analogy, but you don’t expect Bill Gates to sort you out when your highly customised Office program fucks up a bit on your Mac).

If the new owners want OldAdmin to help out then I would think they should pay top commercial rates, but that would undermine the whole basis of UKP. I suggest we stop moaning and let Head1’s team, with whatever help techie members can offer, do their best. We’ve got a working UKP site, even if you’re not allowed to say the word prοssie prοssie prοssie. Hehe...


Thanks for the clarification Marmalade, and by the way, I wasn't moaning! Hope it didn't come across that way. The one thing I did neglect to say in my post is a big 'thanks' to Head1 for taking on the task, but I'm pretty sure I said that elsewhere previously (and by the way, I'll mention here your excellent first post in this thread which put things into context for the uninitiated).

I have no doubt UKP will gradually morph into what the new owner wants it to be, and that it will be a success. Heartening too, that there seem to be a lot of members who are savvy (and obviously professionals in the field) who are willing to pop up out of the woodwork to offer assistance, in what is a rather clandestine hobby to say the least, for obvious reasons.

Just as Nik wrote a book about punting, a small part of me hopes that Admin will do the same at some point about his journey as webmaster of this place, there would be some tales to tell I feel sure (obviously with anonymity preserved all round).


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Naturally I include myself when I suggest “we should stop moaning”. I just don’t always follow my suggestions.  :sarcastic:

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I would call it 'creative input'  :D

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Thank you admin for all that you have done and for tolerating my presence on this website in small doses  :D. This site has proven invaluable for me on the other side for market research purposes and thank you for the couple of times I have had to get in contact treating me fairly and efficiently. X

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+1

Logged in a short while ago, to see this thread. Was in shock, as I was not expecting this nor had the mods been notified.

Thanks for your efforts over the past 9 years  :thumbsup:

A warm welcome and good luck to Head1  :thumbsup:
I go on a 2 week holiday and every thing has changed. Thanks Admin for all the work. I've not read the whole thread as 6 pages would take a while. Are you keeping UKE going or has that passed over as well?
I really dont know how you've kept all this going in the first place. Best of luck for the future :hi:

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Stapler's alive!!!!!!!!!!!
Almost as big a shock as Admin passing the reigns over... :hi:

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Stapler's alive!!!!!!!!!!!

you have to imagine me saying that with the voice of Brian Blessed

Offline Blackpool Rock

I go on a 2 week holiday and every thing has changed. Thanks Admin for all the work. I've not read the whole thread as 6 pages would take a while. Are you keeping UKE going or has that passed over as well?
I really dont know how you've kept all this going in the first place. Best of luck for the future :hi:
It's in the thread somewhere but "Old Admin" also offloaded UKE but to different owners than UKP

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Thank you Admin for building this priceless resource and thank you to the new team for carrying on the legacy.

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Thank you Admin for building this priceless resource and thank you to the new team for carrying on the legacy.

Sums it up nicely IMHO.  :hi: :hi:

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I think so as well :hi:
Keep the faith. We will get there

Offline Brazilian Martian

Not been online as much so I've missed quite a bit seems crazy a UKP without Admin is crazy but I wish you all the best in the world  :drinks:

Offline tynetunnel

I think so as well :hi:
Keep the faith. We will get there

As someone non technical in terms of websites I don’t even begin to understand what you are all discussing in the help wanted stickies at the top of the menu. All I know is that it’s plainly complicated and will take time to get it all understood, and unpicked from the customization that oldadmin was obviously good at.

I’m keeping the faith, and I’m grateful to you for taking on the site, that it just didn’t close. It’s been said many times, and will be again - UKP is invaluable to us members. For what you have done already, and what still lies ahead for you, simply thank you  :thumbsup:

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As someone non technical in terms of websites I don’t even begin to understand what you are all discussing in the help wanted stickies at the top of the menu. All I know is that it’s plainly complicated and will take time to get it all understood, and unpicked from the customization that oldadmin was obviously good at.

I’m keeping the faith, and I’m grateful to you for taking on the site, that it just didn’t close. It’s been said many times, and will be again - UKP is invaluable to us members. For what you have done already, and what still lies ahead for you, simply thank you  :thumbsup:

Agree with this word for word!

Wish I could help but my technical abilities end at using email.

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Thank you 🙏

This forum is great. So many use it and appreciate all your efforts.  :drinks:

Offline T0pgun

Thanks Admin for a great site, and for all your time and effort over the years. The success of this forum is a fitting legacy

Good luck to the new owner  :drinks:


Here here  :drinks:

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Offline itk

Well although I am not around myself much now I felt I ought to comment on this news.

Firstly, unlike most people in the thread, I can't say I am surprised at the news. My only surprise is that he did it for nothing and at some cost to himself for so long.

Couple of great posts from Marmalade in this thread that sum up well. I can only echo the fact that without Admin UKP wouldn't have succeeded. Although I started it and was owner from August 2010 to December 2012 Admin effectively ran the show from day one and without him it wouldn't have lasted. Talk about a lucky break!
I made plenty of mistakes in the early days. One was banning Smiths - he has since forgiven me!  :blush:  Another was registering it as ukpunting.com rather than co.uk.  Admin pointed this out to me but it was too late.  He was always there to (metaphorically) hold my hand and reassure me when we were being attacked left right and centre in unsuccessful bids to get us closed down. As I have repeatedly said there are some terrible people of both sexes in this business making money out of it and the last thing they wanted was someone coming along and disrupting this by calling out their poor service, lies and scams of which there are, and always will be, plenty.

It has been speculated that I may return on a more regular basis, but this won't happen as I don't punt. I haven't had one since the two with Michelle and Nicoletta in London last August and haven't had a local one for six years now and the way I feel these days I doubt I will punt again. I can't see the point in logging into a punting forum regularly if I don't punt. I am still occasionally in contact with JRC and have informed him about the changes here, but he won't return as he too no longer punts.
My biggest regret as far as UKP is concerned is that we didn't get it off the ground at least ten years earlier when I was punting regularly as, apart from anything else, I would have been able to contribute a lot more reviews. Even by 2010 my punting was nowhere near what it had been 10 / 20 years earlier.

I still pop in occasionally but don't spend very long as in all honesty punting matters don't interest me very much now. However I hope do UKP continues to go from strength to strength and the ethos is maintained as it is great to see how it has benefited so many, which was my original vision. And once again massive thanks to Admin and his incredible and selfless contribution over many years.  :drinks:

I had wondered where yourself and JRC had gone, understandable that you don’t frequent the forum if punting isn’t important anymore. Thanks to Admin for the years you’ve run this excellent site since I joined many years ago, saving me money, and giving me invaluable information from many members. Good luck to the new owner, and long may this place thrive and go from strength to strength.

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I had wondered where yourself and JRC had gone, understandable that you don’t frequent the forum if punting isn’t important anymore. Thanks to Admin for the years you’ve run this excellent site since I joined many years ago, saving me money, and giving me invaluable information from many members. Good luck to the new owner, and long may this place thrive and go from strength to strength.

Aye. NIK and JRC along with James were good for the forum in the early years in their own way. NIK with a broad base appeal due to his wide ranging interests. JRC with his cab issues. James with his non reviews. These are just some of the traits for each and I’m sure others found them entertaining enough at least to get involved in the discussions to help generate the interest of the site.
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I had wondered where yourself and JRC had gone, understandable that you don’t frequent the forum if punting isn’t important anymore. Thanks to Admin for the years you’ve run this excellent site since I joined many years ago, saving me money, and giving me invaluable information from many members. Good luck to the new owner, and long may this place thrive and go from strength to strength.

I don't believe that's why redcab left, he had been sussed out by so many posters on Off-Topic and just called them all trolls or lefties, then stropped off.

IMO he lived on his past rep on here, a good rep and a good early mod but that was years ago. He also ran punters down who punted with what he classed as old slags and those who punted with WGs with no face pics, and anyone who punted with a WG who charged under £100 an hour was punting with a skank. :rolleyes: And so its clear I challenged him on this when he was on here.

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I don't believe that's why redcab left, he had been sussed out by so many posters on Off-Topic and just called them all trolls or lefties, then stropped off.

IMO he lived on his past rep on here, a good rep and a good early mod but that was years ago. He also ran punters down who punted with what he classed as old slags and those who punted with WGs with no face pics, and anyone who punted with a WG who charged under £100 an hour was punting with a skank. :rolleyes: And so its clear I challenged him on this when he was on here.

Although it’s not the topic here, I will defend Jimmy Redcab here, not just as a founder and someone who put in a lot of hard work, but who was overall a very positive influence on the board.

He did unfortunately get into a very protracted battle with another long-standing member, and you and he also fell out I understand as he accused you of making reviews for women you hadn’t seen, so you maybe are not completely neutral in your summation Smiths, and, with the greatest respect to yourself and your great and vast contributions, as I think I am maybe more completely neutral I will offer a few words ...

I think it is better I would say, and I think this is the truth, that he was maybe both tired of the aggro particularly on off-topic with another member who doesn’t post reviews (but contributes in other valuable ways in my opinion) and simply, as has been stated, he no longer punted.

JRC had excellent, sometimes all-too-human insight into prοssies, and an intolerance of fluffies. As a mod, he had the clear practical wisdom of a cab driver, and was one of the few ever members who were bullet-proof in the sense of being able to admit his hobby to all and sundry. He certainly committed no great crime against UKPunting, a board he had worked so hard, with Nik, to create and keep going, so I’d ask people not to speak ill of him or with disrespect now that he has gone. Any personal grievances serve no purpose and should be laid aside.

I always remember him for his reports on Thailand and his immortal phrase, “(the Thais prοssies) all look like they’ve been hit in the face with a wok”. It was that down-to-earth realism, that went close to, but never crossed the line, that dissuaded many newcomers from getting carried away into (an expensive) fantasy land. He was not beyond mistakes. He once said (and people never let him forget) that a certain SP should “charge more” as her rates were well below the market price for the standard of service she offered. But he stuck to his guns. I can’t recall him ever changing his opinion on something, with the one single exception of not banning a non-reviewer who persistently attacked him. He was true to his principles – and was 99% right. In keeping with his own ethos, he left when he ceased to be a punter.

I’ll raise a glass to Jimmy Redcab. When someone leaves quietly, may gainsayers keep their own counsel, that those who wish to pay their respects may do so. I’ll raise a glass to founder member, longest standing member of many, and a great guy: to JRC, long may he live in retirement from UKP, and his services remembered.   :drinks:

If he has left permanently he deserves our respect.

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Aye. Well said Marm.  :drinks:
Those three along with some others, were/are definitely of some character any forum would welcome.  :hi:
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Sorry Marmalade

But he ended up as a tosser of the highest proportions

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Although it’s not the topic here, I will defend Jimmy Redcab here, not just as a founder and someone who put in a lot of hard work, but who was overall a very positive influence on the board.

He did unfortunately get into a very protracted battle with another long-standing member, and you and he also fell out I understand as he accused you of making reviews for women you hadn’t seen, so you maybe are not completely neutral in your summation Smiths, and, with the greatest respect to yourself and your great and vast contributions, as I think I am maybe more completely neutral I will offer a few words ...

I think it is better I would say, and I think this is the truth, that he was maybe both tired of the aggro particularly on off-topic with another member who doesn’t post reviews (but contributes in other valuable ways in my opinion) and simply, as has been stated, he no longer punted.

JRC had excellent, sometimes all-too-human insight into prοssies, and an intolerance of fluffies. As a mod, he had the clear practical wisdom of a cab driver, and was one of the few ever members who were bullet-proof in the sense of being able to admit his hobby to all and sundry. He certainly committed no great crime against UKPunting, a board he had worked so hard, with Nik, to create and keep going, so I’d ask people not to speak ill of him or with disrespect now that he has gone. Any personal grievances serve no purpose and should be laid aside.

I always remember him for his reports on Thailand and his immortal phrase, “(the Thais prοssies) all look like they’ve been hit in the face with a wok”. It was that down-to-earth realism, that went close to, but never crossed the line, that dissuaded many newcomers from getting carried away into (an expensive) fantasy land. He was not beyond mistakes. He once said (and people never let him forget) that a certain SP should “charge more” as her rates were well below the market price for the standard of service she offered. But he stuck to his guns. I can’t recall him ever changing his opinion on something, with the one single exception of not banning a non-reviewer who persistently attacked him. He was true to his principles – and was 99% right. In keeping with his own ethos, he left when he ceased to be a punter.

I’ll raise a glass to Jimmy Redcab. When someone leaves quietly, may gainsayers keep their own counsel, that those who wish to pay their respects may do so. I’ll raise a glass to founder member, longest standing member of many, and a great guy: to JRC, long may he live in retirement from UKP, and his services remembered.   :drinks:

If he has left permanently he deserves our respect.

I never said I was neutral of course Marm, and what I posted I also told him while he was posting, I stick to every word. He was utterly vile towards me for no reason initially, I don't like or respect such posters so wont pretend I do. And I never pretended while he was actively posting either.

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Well everyone’s entitled to an opinion.  :cool: