Thank you and fare thee well, Admin!

[smiths]

All hail! Raise a glass to A— for his great achievement! 

We could say it’s about running a great site, for free, at his own expense, taking it from scratch when the best will in the world (Nik, who fore UKP) was pulling his hair out, and then building it up to become what it is now, the biggest site of its kind in the U.K.  We have to recognise what a remarkable achievement that has been, both technically — given the serious opposition in cyberspace — and human, which meant skilful management to get it running efficiently given the seemingly unmanageable amount of moderation it seemed to need at times. It’s given punters a real voice for the first time here and in doing that it’s done something more than just being a forum for punters: A—— has achieved something that has never been done before. May he find success with the next great step forward in whatever field he chooses!

Few here will recall the starting pains and A——‘s smooth nonchalance in overcoming them. When Nik first put the site together it only had a few members but was a much needed and comprised a very grateful tiny community. The attacks began almost immediately, mostly at first from the owner of the old Sex Worker-run ‘punting’ site that we were so eager to leave behind. In those days, any and every non-gratuitous comment by a punter was censored, punters were treated like recalcitrant children if they uttered a word of criticism towards an SP or SPs in general and banned until they ‘learnt their lesson’. UKP was hit not just by prossies trying to wreck it but by sophisticated denial-of-service attacks from the the Sex Worker-run ‘punting’ forum owner (who made his money from favourable reviews of prossies).

UKP was destroyed I think it was three times. Each time Nik asked for our patience to sign up again as he recreated it. It survived, but the toll on him was starting to show. I think he was at the point of almost giving up completely and broke as well when A—— offered to buy it from Nik for an undisclosed sum while guaranteeing it would continue as a free and independent site.

A’s—— technical experience was not only vast but he had, he tells me, experience of running dating sites which would help. If you’ve ever been a mod on a forum you probably know about the many hours spent sorting out the silliest of arguments between warring contributors (both I and JRC were mods for a while, as was a very clever chap called Jacob, much missed). There were one or two others as well but the demands on time were very considerable. Amazingly, A—— has streamlined the site so it runs without mods, and the work of ‘helpers’ is fairly uncontroversial.

One of the perhaps less noticed things that A—— has consistently brought to the site is an unerring sense of fairness: fairness to punters, between punters, and also recognising and taking action when evidence showed that some ‘punter’ was a dangerous criminal. Prossies rights have also been respected, especially concerning their privacy. But their imaginary ‘rights’ to be treated like royalty or their ‘rights’ to slag off punters has meant they’re put in their place. Whenever they had a seriously justifiable complaint, politely expressed, it would be recognised, and some — often risking abuse from other prossies — have contributed constructively to UKP on technical matters from the SP side of things or on specialist subjects like pharmacology. But it has never been forgotten that this is a site for punters, where punters can speak freely. Legal issues have also been handled impeccably by A—— as far as I can see. I think all this needs to be mentioned since it is done so well it is almost invisible.

If I could thank him personally, I would, or share a beer with A—— who has given so much and achieved so much, realising the common aims of so many punters. From the early days — we were all on first name terms — to a mega-site with thousands and thousands of people and everything running smoothly, it has been a great ride – no pun intended! Go on to your new challenges A–– with my thanks and the thanks of thousands cheering you on! You have our enduring love and respect, and gratitude for all that you have done.

In Scotland we say, “Haste ye back” — so may you always find us welcoming if you pop back, whether ‘tos anonymous or no. Cheers!!! 

What a great post and a fitting send off to old admin.

[Kev40ish]

What a great post and a fitting send off to old admin.

I totally agree, it’s a fantastic insight for people who
Weren’t here for the inception of the site of what Admin has had to deal with to take this site to where iit is now.

Thanks Marmalade for a fantastic overview and it only highlights what good Admin has done.

 

[myothernameis]

Thank you Admin, you have built up a great site, but only hope head-1 lives up to everyone's ideal man in charge

[Landscape]

A major thank you to Admin for making the forum into the huge success that it is - your time, effort and dedication has been very much appreciated by all who frequent it.   

On a personal note, thank you for helping me out when I was experiencing difficulties - your advice and knowledge was very helpful. 

And hello to the new Admin - I'm sure you will continue the success of UKP.

[Danj89]

Smashed it admin, this forum is a god send and your efforts in maintaining this is largely the reason for it.

Hats off to you, enjoy your spare time.

[cunnyhunt]

All hail! Raise a glass to A— for his great achievement! 

We could say it’s about running a great site, for free, at his own expense, taking it from scratch when the best will in the world (Nik, who fore UKP) was pulling his hair out, and then building it up to become what it is now, the biggest site of its kind in the U.K.  We have to recognise what a remarkable achievement that has been, both technically — given the serious opposition in cyberspace — and human, which meant skilful management to get it running efficiently given the seemingly unmanageable amount of moderation it seemed to need at times. It’s given punters a real voice for the first time here and in doing that it’s done something more than just being a forum for punters: A—— has achieved something that has never been done before. May he find success with the next great step forward in whatever field he chooses!

Few here will recall the starting pains and A——‘s smooth nonchalance in overcoming them. When Nik first put the site together it only had a few members but was a much needed and comprised a very grateful tiny community. The attacks began almost immediately, mostly at first from the owner of the old Sex Worker-run ‘punting’ site that we were so eager to leave behind. In those days, any and every non-gratuitous comment by a punter was censored, punters were treated like recalcitrant children if they uttered a word of criticism towards an SP or SPs in general and banned until they ‘learnt their lesson’. UKP was hit not just by prossies trying to wreck it but by sophisticated denial-of-service attacks from the the Sex Worker-run ‘punting’ forum owner (who made his money from favourable reviews of prossies).

UKP was destroyed I think it was three times. Each time Nik asked for our patience to sign up again as he recreated it. It survived, but the toll on him was starting to show. I think he was at the point of almost giving up completely and broke as well when A—— offered to buy it from Nik for an undisclosed sum while guaranteeing it would continue as a free and independent site.

A’s—— technical experience was not only vast but he had, he tells me, experience of running dating sites which would help. If you’ve ever been a mod on a forum you probably know about the many hours spent sorting out the silliest of arguments between warring contributors (both I and JRC were mods for a while, as was a very clever chap called Jacob, much missed). There were one or two others as well but the demands on time were very considerable. Amazingly, A—— has streamlined the site so it runs without mods, and the work of ‘helpers’ is fairly uncontroversial.

One of the perhaps less noticed things that A—— has consistently brought to the site is an unerring sense of fairness: fairness to punters, between punters, and also recognising and taking action when evidence showed that some ‘punter’ was a dangerous criminal. Prossies rights have also been respected, especially concerning their privacy. But their imaginary ‘rights’ to be treated like royalty or their ‘rights’ to slag off punters has meant they’re put in their place. Whenever they had a seriously justifiable complaint, politely expressed, it would be recognised, and some — often risking abuse from other prossies — have contributed constructively to UKP on technical matters from the SP side of things or on specialist subjects like pharmacology. But it has never been forgotten that this is a site for punters, where punters can speak freely. Legal issues have also been handled impeccably by A—— as far as I can see. I think all this needs to be mentioned since it is done so well it is almost invisible.

If I could thank him personally, I would, or share a beer with A—— who has given so much and achieved so much, realising the common aims of so many punters. From the early days — we were all on first name terms — to a mega-site with thousands and thousands of people and everything running smoothly, it has been a great ride – no pun intended! Go on to your new challenges A–– with my thanks and the thanks of thousands cheering you on! You have our enduring love and respect, and gratitude for all that you have done.

In Scotland we say, “Haste ye back” — so may you always find us welcoming if you pop back, whether ‘tos anonymous or no. Cheers!!! 

Great post Marmalade. I think I was the 6th to join, then rejoin and then rejoin again as the site was continually destroyed!

 A--- has done so much to help punters and we all owe him a debt. 9 years on and the old boards that tried to scupper UKP have gone and UKP just gets better.   

[PatMacGroin]

Words are not enough, but they are all we have to offer, so Thank You Admin! 

I totally agree with an earlier sentiment that you deserve a Peerage for your service which has literally been invaluable to thousands of men throughout the nation. (Any members here that can get that arranged?  )

Welcome to your new role Head1. Big shoes to fill, so best of luck.

[Heph]

I remember back when the moderator log was viewable and seeing the huge amount you had to ban/action every day was staggering yet you did it just for the site and members. UKP is THE site for punters because of you. All the best for the future.

Welcome Head1 

Ditto. Superb site and resource - where would we be without it? A great debt of gratitude is owed to you. Best wishes...
… and to the new owner too.

[anyfucker]

Thanks admin for (almost) single handedly raising the standards of punting for thousands.
Respect for your hard work needed to ban the undesirables.
Welcome to the new admin.

[hantshagger]

I'm not on here so much these days, but do pop in from time to time.  I'd just like to add my thanks to Old Admin, for setting this forum up and running it for 9 plus years -   its been a very useful resource to me!

 Best wishes to Head1 in his new role -  and may UKP continue to grow in usefulness to the punter community.

[MT balls]

Newish member , so don't know the history of the site,
but so glad I found it , I've  learnt so much about this "hobby" from this site .I've  also realised I'm  not alone out there ,it sort of feels good to be a member of a community.
Thanks very much Admin , best of luck.
      MT.

[BogBog1]

I've been a member on here for 5 years now. If I tried to calculate the amount of time and money this site has saved me by allowing me to (mainly) avoid wasted trips to crappy WGs - and conversely, how much higher the standard of my 'average' punt has become - my head would explode. And that is all down to this site, and to you, Admin, for keeping this community respectful, helpful and fun. A pint is raised to you sir! 

[jeanphillipe]

All hail! Raise a glass to A— for his great achievement! 

We could say it’s about running a great site, for free, at his own expense, taking it from scratch when the best will in the world (Nik, who fore UKP) was pulling his hair out, and then building it up to become what it is now, the biggest site of its kind in the U.K.  We have to recognise what a remarkable achievement that has been, both technically — given the serious opposition in cyberspace — and human, which meant skilful management to get it running efficiently given the seemingly unmanageable amount of moderation it seemed to need at times. It’s given punters a real voice for the first time here and in doing that it’s done something more than just being a forum for punters: A—— has achieved something that has never been done before. May he find success with the next great step forward in whatever field he chooses!

Few here will recall the starting pains and A——‘s smooth nonchalance in overcoming them. When Nik first put the site together it only had a few members but was a much needed and comprised a very grateful tiny community. The attacks began almost immediately, mostly at first from the owner of the old Sex Worker-run ‘punting’ site that we were so eager to leave behind. In those days, any and every non-gratuitous comment by a punter was censored, punters were treated like recalcitrant children if they uttered a word of criticism towards an SP or SPs in general and banned until they ‘learnt their lesson’. UKP was hit not just by prossies trying to wreck it but by sophisticated denial-of-service attacks from the the Sex Worker-run ‘punting’ forum owner (who made his money from favourable reviews of prossies).

UKP was destroyed I think it was three times. Each time Nik asked for our patience to sign up again as he recreated it. It survived, but the toll on him was starting to show. I think he was at the point of almost giving up completely and broke as well when A—— offered to buy it from Nik for an undisclosed sum while guaranteeing it would continue as a free and independent site.

A’s—— technical experience was not only vast but he had, he tells me, experience of running dating sites which would help. If you’ve ever been a mod on a forum you probably know about the many hours spent sorting out the silliest of arguments between warring contributors (both I and JRC were mods for a while, as was a very clever chap called Jacob, much missed). There were one or two others as well but the demands on time were very considerable. Amazingly, A—— has streamlined the site so it runs without mods, and the work of ‘helpers’ is fairly uncontroversial.

One of the perhaps less noticed things that A—— has consistently brought to the site is an unerring sense of fairness: fairness to punters, between punters, and also recognising and taking action when evidence showed that some ‘punter’ was a dangerous criminal. Prossies rights have also been respected, especially concerning their privacy. But their imaginary ‘rights’ to be treated like royalty or their ‘rights’ to slag off punters has meant they’re put in their place. Whenever they had a seriously justifiable complaint, politely expressed, it would be recognised, and some — often risking abuse from other prossies — have contributed constructively to UKP on technical matters from the SP side of things or on specialist subjects like pharmacology. But it has never been forgotten that this is a site for punters, where punters can speak freely. Legal issues have also been handled impeccably by A—— as far as I can see. I think all this needs to be mentioned since it is done so well it is almost invisible.

If I could thank him personally, I would, or share a beer with A—— who has given so much and achieved so much, realising the common aims of so many punters. From the early days — we were all on first name terms — to a mega-site with thousands and thousands of people and everything running smoothly, it has been a great ride – no pun intended! Go on to your new challenges A–– with my thanks and the thanks of thousands cheering you on! You have our enduring love and respect, and gratitude for all that you have done.

In Scotland we say, “Haste ye back” — so may you always find us welcoming if you pop back, whether ‘tos anonymous or no. Cheers!!! 

Well said,  admin was firm but fair, as marmalade mentions above. I am hoping new admin continues this practice.

admin has made really good decisions thus far so i am sure he feels the new owner is qualified to run the site and trusts his judgment.

Finally, cheers admin for all the unpaid labour. Still can't believe you didn't profit from it

[stevedave]

Blimey, I don't log in for a couple of days and it's all change!

I can't really add anything else to what others have said, but I will just add my thanks and gratitude to admin for all his hard work over the years, you've created something amazing, thank you for everything 

[hungrypunt]

Kudos to Admin and the site, everything has been said.
BUT Ive gotta say, im impressed how he just bowed out, no fuss, adios, simple

Cheers Admin, good luck head1, as we all know , you cant bead good head

[mh]

I replied over on the "New forum feature" post but it is a lot more apt to post this here, so with apologies for the duplication...

All praise to "OldAdmin" for EVERYTHING he has done for this site. Stabilising it, managing it, improving it and now, most importantly, handing it on to another Admin to continue.

There are no guarantees of course. If you're not paying for something you're usually the product. Thankfully not in this case, but we have to accept we have no entitlement to this brilliant resource and no comeback it it dropped off the net tomorrow.

But handing it on to a new Admin who has pledged to keep it going on the same basis is a great act of benevolence. It could have been tempting to sell out.

Thanks, OldAdmin. And hello Head1...
 

[TPreston]

I've been a member on here for 5 years now. If I tried to calculate the amount of time and money this site has saved me by allowing me to (mainly) avoid wasted trips to crappy WGs - and conversely, how much higher the standard of my 'average' punt has become - my head would explode. And that is all down to this site, and to you, Admin, for keeping this community respectful, helpful and fun. A pint is raised to you sir!

Zak I'm still waiting for some closure on the story with your cleaner! used to follow with tenterhooks every fortnight!

and cheers admin. Would say its a thankless task, but this thread just shows how appreciated the time, effort and work you've put in is.

Hopefully the rules admin put in place and tweaked over time and experience remaining consistent as think the approach and rules in place worked as well as possible for a site of this nature.

I'm almost exclusively SA based and the community on that thread is great for what is very much a solo pursuit IRL, giving people a chance to vent and share - its a big part of my SA experience and the closed thread will have been a nightmare from an administration perspective but is necessary for the privacy of both punter and girls IMO (while its most certainly on the sex work spectrum, its not quite the same as regular punting and as such different rules here).

Good luck Head1 and sure we'll get a post informing us all of whats new:) onwards and upwards to UKP

[manc36]

Yes thank you admin, wishing you well for the future 

Good luck to the new man too.

[winkywanky]

Thanks to Admin for this priceless resource
An opening statement coming soon but at the moment a lot to try and work out behind the scenes.
There's a problem with posting pics at the moment
Thanks for the good wishes

I hope Admin left you an instruction manual Head1  .

Joking aside, welcome to UKP and thanks for taking this on because as you have already seen, this is a great place which is much appreciated by its members  .

[thehoodman1]

thank you admin, wishing you the very best for the future.   Long may UKP survive without you

[sonyvaio]

Marmelade seems to have summed it up really well

Thanks admin for UKP (and UKE as well)

[jeanphillipe]

I hope Admin left you an instruction manual Head1  .

Joking aside, welcome to UKP and thanks for taking this on because as you have already seen, this is a great place which is much appreciated by its members  .

I think he is an already established member, who will probably remain anonymous.

[Blackpool Rock]

Hopefully the rules admin put in place and tweaked over time and experience remaining consistent as think the approach and rules in place worked as well as possible for a site of this nature.

Good luck Head1 and sure we'll get a post informing us all of whats new:) onwards and upwards to UKP

Well I was going to comment that Admin probably saved himself and Head1 a lot of agro by getting rid of Off Topic but I see it's back 

Edit, No topics in it yet and not sure how to post a topic so watch this space

[Doc Holliday]

Is 'off topic' about to return?

Showing on homepage but not active as yet?

Baptism of fire? 

[CoolTiger]

Is 'off topic' about to return?

Showing on homepage but not active as yet?

Baptism of fire? 

If "New Topic" is displayed in top RHS... off you go!!

[Blackpool Rock]

If "New Topic" is displayed in top RHS... off you go!!

No it says something like "Notify of new topics" which I clicked on and it now says "Un notify" but no option to start a new topic so perhaps a glitch or Head 1 is still setting it up

[Kev40ish]

Is 'off topic' about to return?

Showing on homepage but not active as yet?

Baptism of fire? 

Maybe it is returning, as a lot of people went to UKE to discuss off topic things, I’m not sure if head1 on here will now be owning both of them.

So is this part of the separation of the two sites.

[Grumpy Pumpy]

Great post by Marmalade above.

I've only been a member for a few years and wasn't aware of the back story and early difficulties. It makes the achievements and incredible usefulness of the site all the more impressive

[BogBog1]

Zak I'm still waiting for some closure on the story with your cleaner! used to follow with tenterhooks every fortnight!

Oh my god, that WAS a few years ago! Well, precisely nothing came of it (excuse the pun). The company she was working for closed, so had to get a new company, and with it, a new cleaner. Who on the plus side is extremely efficient, but on the minus side, someone who I definitely don't want to shag despite the fact that she's young and friendly. It was kind of fun while all that was going on though. Fuck she was sexy.   

[Goldfinch]

Oh my god, that WAS a few years ago! Well, precisely nothing came of it (excuse the pun). The company she was working for closed, so had to get a new company, and with it, a new cleaner. Who on the plus side is extremely efficient, but on the minus side, someone who I definitely don't want to shag despite the fact that she's young and friendly. It was kind of fun while all that was going on though. Fuck she was sexy.   

Thanks for the update.

Everytime I see your name on here,I think of THAT thread.

[Silver Birch]

Just saying thanks seems inadequate

But Thanks Admin 

And good luck Head 1

Didn't know what to write, but agree with all the above!

I've spent many hours (far too many hours) reading, researching and writing on UKP, and I'm very grateful for the knowledge and entertainment it has brought.

[winkywanky]

I think he is an already established member, who will probably remain anonymous.

That'd make sense. But I guess it'll remain a mystery to pretty well everyone, but that's part of the fun.

[winkywanky]

Well I was going to comment that Admin probably saved himself and Head1 a lot of agro by getting rid of Off Topic but I see it's back 

Edit, No topics in it yet and not sure how to post a topic so watch this space

Whaaa!

But Brexit isn't resolved yet! 

I wonder whether all the old posts will still be there, or if it'll be a clean slate?

[TPreston]

Oh my god, that WAS a few years ago! Well, precisely nothing came of it (excuse the pun). The company she was working for closed, so had to get a new company, and with it, a new cleaner. Who on the plus side is extremely efficient, but on the minus side, someone who I definitely don't want to shag despite the fact that she's young and friendly. It was kind of fun while all that was going on though. Fuck she was sexy.   

that is not the ending i wanted to hear. was a cracker with suggestions about leaving adultwork on a laptop on purpose and subtle but not to subtle hints being suggested. Needs bumping just to reread lol.

Could well have ended in tears as well, but at least your place is tidy! ha

[JamesKW]

Thankyou Admin. moderating a site like this must be a lot of hard work.

[snowbum]

I would like to add my thanks for all effort, time and resource provided

All the best for future 

[lostandfound]

Hearfelt thanks to Admin. 

Never thought I would join a punting website, but this one stood out as something different from the others, and it has been a boon to my punting life. And clearly, has been to very many other punters too.

Best wishes to New Admin / Head1.

[DouglasReynholm]

Thanks to Admin for making the site indispensable - without this I'd have ended up at the front doors of bait & switchers, boilers and barebackers.   

Welcome Head1.

I personally wouldn't make the effort to run an Off-Topic forum here, there's already thousands of boards out there where people can talk about other stuff. More trouble than it's worth I'd say.

[James999]

I think off topic is a benefit to the site as it keeps such discussions off the main forum and allows the opportunity to discuss off topic issues with like minded members of the forum and there is a place / need for off topic on here as Douglases post illustrates.

It worked fine with just Admin running the site and moderating off topic, and now there are a team of moderators in place.

[jeanphillipe]

I think off topic is a benefit to the site as it keeps such discussions off the main forum and allows the opportunity to discuss off topic issues with like minded members of the forum and there is a place / need for off topic on here as Douglases post illustrates.

It worked fine with just Admin running the site and moderating off topic, and now there are a team of moderators in place.

yes but whereas admin was neutral, with politics it can get really heated. some of the mods will naturally want to side or not favor opposing views. the only way it will work if you just let it run feral and lawless like admin did and just step in if someone crosses the line with repeated personal insults.

[Desimonic]

Thanks for all the hard work, we punters respect you for your time and effort and for putting up with this rabble . Many thanks mate 

[mh]

yes but whereas admin was neutral, with politics it can get really heated. some of the mods will naturally want to side or not favor opposing views. the only way it will work if you just let it run feral and lawless like admin did and just step in if someone crosses the line with personal insults.

I'm not sure what you're saying, but "feral and lawless" is very much overstating the old OT!

Moderators would soon be distrusted on any forum if they moderated for or against a genuine personal viewpoint, whether in OT or not, on posts that were within the rules of that board. You set clear rules and moderate against them and everyone knows where they stand.

As for there being no personal insults allowed, there was one member who was very fond of throwing around absolute direct personal insults preceded by or followed by "no offence", or similar, and he was given leeway through being a longstanding member. That leeway didn't stop him flouncing off in a huff eventually though...

I'm not particularly advocating for the return of Off Topic. I enjoyed it but spent way too much time on it.

[Majestic]

Thanks Admin. If it wasn't for this site, getting into punting would have been more difficult for me. It is a great resource.

[Blackpool Rock]

As for there being no personal insults allowed, there was one member who was very fond of throwing around absolute direct personal insults preceded by or followed by "no offence", or similar, and he was given leeway through being a longstanding member. That leeway didn't stop him flouncing off in a huff eventually though...

I'm not particularly advocating for the return of Off Topic. I enjoyed it but spent way too much time on it.

I missed OT when it 1st went but I actually think the site is better without it, not seen any bickering or discord since it was culled, in fact this thread has already started turning into an OT style thread since the board was resurrected.

Like you I seem to have a lot more spare time now.

[Blackpool Rock]

Maybe it is returning, as a lot of people went to UKE to discuss off topic things, I’m not sure if head1 on here will now be owning both of them.

So is this part of the separation of the two sites.

I'm assuming that old Admin has retained UKE as a post with UKE in no longer cross references to that site under the post

[daviemac]

I'm assuming that old Admin has retained UKE as a post with UKE in no longer cross references to that site under the post

UKE has new owners, not connected to here any more. Admin has retired from both.

[Rub]

As the saying goes

‘The King is dead, God save the King’ 

[sparkus]

Probably just a paranoid niggle, but while OldAdmin has handed the site over to a trusted member, what's to say the site and all its IP logs etc. won't fall into the wrong hands in future?

I've long assumed I will be caught out eventually and held up as a pariah in the eyes of society (oh well, never mind) but I'm sure someone more technically minded can put my mind at rest.

[NightKid]

Thanks for everything Adam, and all the best in future. 

[Vivago]

Just wonder how the change in ownership will affect previously banned members? Will there be an amnesty or will they remain forever excluded?