The Phoenix Club - May 2019

[jeezyuk]

This review contains some standard details from my earlier TPC reviews.
It is particularly short as I posted most of the pertinent details in my April 2019 TPC visit review.
Ask questions if you need more info.

Link: External Link/Members Only


Services:
DFK
OWO
CIM - With Elsa but not sure this is standard
RO
Hand job
Penetration (Protected)

Price: £160 for 2 hours

Comm's: Via phone call, with address texted afterwards.

Location: An upper floor flat close to Baker Street and Edgware Road. Very easy to find and discreet. Inside the flat it's a bit tight. There's a small kitchen where they will keep any drinks or food you bring if you ask. I brought my own drink as I like to drink while I fuck or else I'm too nervous. One bathroom which was modern and very clean with a nice big shower tub. A spare bedroom which was used for changing and paperwork. I guess this must get used on busy days. Two main bedrooms with a couch and table.

Would I visit again: In June yes.

The crowd: 4women : 5men

Comments:

The Girls:

1. Victoria - Blonde Czech ... great english, excellent BJ, excellent sex, tasty pussy, fit body, tight cunt, enjoyed sex with me and we had each other cumming in several positions. My favourite fuck.

2. Peace - A small thai lady but very friendly and enthusiastic to suck and fuck.. She gave me the best suck of them all and I almost came in her mouth .. she has made me a fan of asian women. Sexy body but getting on in age.

3. Christine - the brazilian massage master... she gave me the best massage in between sex ever... sucked me dry .. fucked me and had a sexy pussy piercing but only let me suck for 5-10 minutes .. I could suck her for hours.. nice clit and big lips .. great ride but not the prettiest

4. Chanelle - enthusiastic, sexy black woman from Jamaica... not the prettiest and putting on some weight but she was a great suck and fuck ... very friendly and I enjoyed fucking her and making out with her.. want to go back to fuck her some more because I didn't make her cum.

All in all a good experience but a bit different for me due to the variety of ethnicities on offer. I usually like white/caucasian women so for me I was a bit out of my depth but in the end it was thoroughly enjoyable.

Venue, Food and other operational items all in line with my April review.

Barbara was hosting .. she really is getting worse with age... avoid any day with Barbara on offer to fuck.. you will regret her..

TPC still scoring well with me !

[fudi_maar]

CIM - With Elsa but not sure this is standard

There is no girl called Elsa listed on the Phoenix website and neither do you list her in the body of your review:

1. Victoria - Blonde Czech ... great english, excellent BJ, excellent sex, tasty pussy, fit body, tight cunt, enjoyed sex with me and we had each other cumming in several positions. My favourite fuck.

2. Peace - A small thai lady but very friendly and enthusiastic to suck and fuck.. She gave me the best suck of them all and I almost came in her mouth .. she has made me a fan of asian women. Sexy body but getting on in age.

3. Christine - the brazilian massage master... she gave me the best massage in between sex ever... sucked me dry .. fucked me and had a sexy pussy piercing but only let me suck for 5-10 minutes .. I could suck her for hours.. nice clit and big lips .. great ride but not the prettiest

4. Chanelle

I think you're confusing this name for some other girls.

[Mr333]

There is no girl called Elsa listed on the Phoenix website and neither do you list her in the body of your review:

I think you're confusing this name for some other girls.

There was an Elsa there until recently, she was a naturally hairy Swedish girl.

Looks like she's gone now. I missed out as I didn't know she was OK with CIM

[Glacier10]

From my experience, not all the girls they use are listed in their gallery.

Haven't been here for a while, seemed to go a bit downhill after moved from Westminster... but prolly still VFM.

[BigBoi1955]

Swedish Elsa used to be on the rota every week for the past couple of years. It’s a real shame she has left as she was  a great party girl with a bubbly personality and she worked hard. She called her bush her vintage pussy and it was truly fabulous. Being a guy who grew up in the 1970’s I considered it a thing of beauty.

CIM and anal are not a services offered at Phoenix but of course some of these girls will routinely be giving this service in their other escort jobs so if you become friendly and get to know a girl it might be possible.  If you haven’t been to a Phoenix party and go to one assume neither of these services will be on offer as 99 times out of 100 they won’t, especially if you are a first timer. That being said I still highly recommend Phoenix.

[jeezyuk]

There is no girl called Elsa listed on the Phoenix website and neither do you list her in the body of your review:

I think you're confusing this name for some other girls.

Apologies, I copied the start from my previous April review.

Please ignore the Elsa bit.

As noted at the top much of the details are the same as my April review except the body.

Due to time constraints I have the choice these days of : no review, brief review, something like what I posted (hybrid with details retained if relevant from past review)

I chose the last option. Sorry for the typo. All else is fine.

If admin wants, please delete that line

By August/September I’ll be able to post higher quality reviews when I have more spare time

[jeezyuk]

From my experience, not all the girls they use are listed in their gallery.

Haven't been here for a while, seemed to go a bit downhill after moved from Westminster... but prolly still VFM.

I’ve got Swedish elsa’s Contact if needed. Can only pm it.

[jeezyuk]

There is no girl called Elsa listed on the Phoenix website and neither do you list her in the body of your review:

I think you're confusing this name for some other girls.

No the names are all correct and are all the details.. just the Elsa bit needs deleting.

Click my profile and you’ll see my April review and it’ll all line up

[BigBoi1955]

I’ve got Swedish elsa’s Contact if needed. Can only pm it.

She's on Adult work, if you search for her on here you'll get the link.. She lives in Brighton but comes up to London a few days a week and works from a flat in the London Bridge area. If I remember correctly and hour with her is more expensive than two hours at a Phoenix party.

[Goldfinch]

She's on Adult work, if you search for her on here you'll get the link.. She lives in Brighton but comes up to London a few days a week and works from a flat in the London Bridge area. If I remember correctly and hour with her is more expensive than two hours at a Phoenix party.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

[BigBoi1955]

Thanks Goldfinch. I was on my phone earlier so didn't have opportunity to search myself.

Interesting that for 1 to 1 bookings she states that oral will be covered which makes the CIM at Phoenix even more unusual.

[fudi_maar]

If I remember correctly and hour with her is more expensive than two hours at a Phoenix party.

I find this is the case with most party girls who offer private escort services outside too. It never made much sense to me, cos
they are happy to get fucked for 2 hours non-stop by up to 10 guys for £X, but privately they want £X++ to see just 1 guy.

But hey, I guess it's their body, their skills, and their services, and the supply-demand curve must make it worthwhile.

Back to Elsa - she was a great girl, and enjoyed what she did - I always felt like I was teleported back to the 70's whenever I was
with her cos her hairyness reminded me of the dirty men's mags we used to exchange in our class rooms as teenage boys. Natural
looking women, with full bush of hair......ahhh.......good old days......

[BigBoi1955]

Back to Elsa - she was a great girl, and enjoyed what she did - I always felt like I was teleported back to the 70's whenever I was
with her cos her hairyness reminded me of the dirty men's mags we used to exchange in our class rooms as teenage boys. Natural
looking women, with full bush of hair......ahhh.......good old days......

My only gripe with Elsa was the wig she wore, it was horrendous. As a wg's hair style is low down on my list of priorities I just ignored it.

[Mr333]

My only gripe with Elsa was the wig she wore, it was horrendous. As a wg's hair style is low down on my list of priorities I just ignored it.

I think when she put the wig on, she transformed into her party slut persona, but I did always wonder what was underneath it.

Maybe she was shaved bald. Shaved head, but hairy pits & pubes, that would have been an unusual sight!

I will miss her though, she was always up for fun & banter.

[Goldfinch]

Thanks Goldfinch. I was on my phone earlier so didn't have opportunity to search myself.

 

[SirCharles]

I find this is the case with most party girls who offer private escort services outside too. It never made much sense to me, cos
they are happy to get fucked for 2 hours non-stop by up to 10 guys for £X, but privately they want £X++ to see just 1 guy.

But hey, I guess it's their body, their skills, and their services, and the supply-demand curve must make it worthwhile.

Back to Elsa - she was a great girl, and enjoyed what she did - I always felt like I was teleported back to the 70's whenever I was
with her cos her hairyness reminded me of the dirty men's mags we used to exchange in our class rooms as teenage boys. Natural
looking women, with full bush of hair......ahhh.......good old days......

Most of the girls use TPC as a platform to hook guys for their private business: the best they can get is a SD/SB arrangement..but some of them, instead, just go once a week to have an income

[fudi_maar]

Whilst we are on the subject, does anyone know what happened to the two Romanian girls Andrea and Sandra?

Andrea - a tall, Amazonian, curvy, size 12 girl with nice DD tits and a great ass - she worked there for a couple of years at least.
   Left maybe 18 months ago.
Sandra - a short, very sweet, black hair Romanian, lovely smile, pleasant personality - great girl. Left about 2 years ago.
Both last seen at Hyde Park venue when TPC was based there.

I miss 'em both and would like to know if they still do some private work

[jeezyuk]

Whilst we are on the subject, does anyone know what happened to the two Romanian girls Andrea and Sandra?

Andrea - a tall, Amazonian, curvy, size 12 girl with nice DD tits and a great ass - she worked there for a couple of years at least.
   Left maybe 18 months ago.
Sandra - a short, very sweet, black hair Romanian, lovely smile, pleasant personality - great girl. Left about 2 years ago.
Both last seen at Hyde Park venue when TPC was based there.

I miss 'em both and would like to know if they still do some private work

If I’m not mistaken, this is Andrea:

External Link/Members Only

But names of girls get shared by both TPC and HOD so hopefully another can confirm

[Beanhead]

Thanks Jeezy.

When I last did TPC Barbara was fine, but I get what you mean, lol.

[BigBoi1955]

Thanks Jeezy.

When I last did TPC Barbara was fine, but I get what you mean, lol.

I agree. Barbara suffers by comparison to the other girls. In any line up she'll be 4th or 5th in physical desirability but I wouldn't agree with the advise to avoid line ups she's in.

One thing I didn't previously notice in the op's review was the ratio. 4 girls and 5 men is a great ratio for the men but not the organiser. I do hope their other parties are better attended because if they aren't they'll be going out of business soon which I for one would hate to see.

[fudi_maar]

I do hope their other parties are better attended because if they aren't they'll be going out of business soon which I for one would hate to see.

Fortunately for them - and less so for me -  the parties I have attended have all been almost fully booked. We're talking 10 men
at each one. At one party, there were 11 guys, so Ivanna (the hostess) joined in to keep the ratios down to 2:1. I thought this might
just be the 1pm ones, but I've tried the 4pm and the 7pm parties too, and they have all been busy. Which, in the long term, is
probably good for us punters too.

I wish there were more party providers like a decade ago, when there was Gentlemens parties, Sacred Rose (which also hosted
3 parties a day, I think), Pam's parties etc.

[BigBoi1955]

Fortunately for them - and less so for me -  the parties I have attended have all been almost fully booked. We're talking 10 men
at each one. At one party, there were 11 guys, so Ivanna (the hostess) joined in to keep the ratios down to 2:1. I thought this might
just be the 1pm ones, but I've tried the 4pm and the 7pm parties too, and they have all been busy. Which, in the long term, is
probably good for us punters too.

I wish there were more party providers like a decade ago, when there was Gentlemens parties, Sacred Rose (which also hosted
3 parties a day, I think), Pam's parties etc.

Really pleased to hear that and like you I wished there were more parties. I particularly want more daytime events as I can't get away from domestic duties and attend evening parties.

[jeezyuk]

On this topic of domestic duties.. was quite funny to see so many of my fellow punters wearing their wedding rings proudly while fucking.. it was quite funny to see haha

 

[jeezyuk]

Fortunately for them - and less so for me -  the parties I have attended have all been almost fully booked. We're talking 10 men
at each one. At one party, there were 11 guys, so Ivanna (the hostess) joined in to keep the ratios down to 2:1. I thought this might
just be the 1pm ones, but I've tried the 4pm and the 7pm parties too, and they have all been busy. Which, in the long term, is
probably good for us punters too.

I wish there were more party providers like a decade ago, when there was Gentlemens parties, Sacred Rose (which also hosted
3 parties a day, I think), Pam's parties etc.

There are some lineups which are going to be rammed.. as I know the popular girls I’m going for new girl lineups which tend to be quiet .. I like to sample new meat

[Beanhead]

Yeah my party had 8 guys and 4 ladies.

Is Ivana the tattoo'd lady?

[fudi_maar]

Is Ivana the tattoo'd lady?

Yep, that's her. Slim, hard-bodied, Polish lass. Also works as hostess when Barbara is not on duty.

[Steely Dan]

We welcome the extra information.  Suggest you just reply to your previous review rather than post a new positive to the same SP month after month. While 3 some is a loophole as written in the rules, the intent and consensus is clear:

- Reviews

* Only one positive review thread can be posted for a service provider by one member per 12 month period, the exception is if the new positive review is for a threesome (or more) booking. This 12-month restriction only applies to positive reviews, not neutral or negative (they can be posted anytime after a positive review). During the 12-month period a member can add their new positive reviews to their existing review thread in the form of a reply.

[Glacier10]

Does anyone know what happened to the girl named Lara? People thought she was brazilian but she told me she was from Guyana - had the most intense sessions with her, then she dissappeared few years ago. Tall, tanned, massive tits...hmmm my god.

Used to also be a hot blonde named Monica who also dissappeared she was a good lol

[jeezyuk]

We welcome the extra information.  Suggest you just reply to your previous review rather than post a new positive to the same SP month after month. While 3 some is a loophole as written in the rules, the intent and consensus is clear:

- Reviews

* Only one positive review thread can be posted for a service provider by one member per 12 month period, the exception is if the new positive review is for a threesome (or more) booking. This 12-month restriction only applies to positive reviews, not neutral or negative (they can be posted anytime after a positive review). During the 12-month period a member can add their new positive reviews to their existing review thread in the form of a reply.

Ok cool, actually wasn’t aware of this. Cheers

[Kingy28]

Does anyone know what happened to the girl named Lara? People thought she was brazilian but she told me she was from Guyana - had the most intense sessions with her, then she dissappeared few years ago. Tall, tanned, massive tits...hmmm my god.

Used to also be a hot blonde named Monica who also dissappeared she was a good lol

Iirc neither made it after LMP shut down into the new phoenix set up. Lara was a stunner. Monika, probably my favourite party girl

[BigBoi1955]

Ok cool, actually wasn’t aware of this. Cheers

In my opinion Phoenix parties and parties in general don't fall into the rule quoted. The line ups change, the number of guests per party changes and in the case of Phoenix the location changes.

The dynamics of a party are different than a 1 to 1 so it is worthwhile having regular updates to report if standards are being maintained.

If the board started getting swamped by reviews of the same operator I'd agree comments should be added to existing reviews but I really don't think that's the case.

I can understand your concern but rather than limit one positive party review per person folks post responsibly.

[smiths]

We welcome the extra information.  Suggest you just reply to your previous review rather than post a new positive to the same SP month after month. While 3 some is a loophole as written in the rules, the intent and consensus is clear:

- Reviews

* Only one positive review thread can be posted for a service provider by one member per 12 month period, the exception is if the new positive review is for a threesome (or more) booking. This 12-month restriction only applies to positive reviews, not neutral or negative (they can be posted anytime after a positive review). During the 12-month period a member can add their new positive reviews to their existing review thread in the form of a reply.

I agree, otherwise some could review the same party each month as they sometimes or often have at least some different WGs at one party on 1 day to another by the same provider on another day.

[BigBoi1955]

I agree, otherwise some could review the same party each month as they sometimes or often have at least some different WGs at one party on 1 day to another by the same provider on another day.

I think the answer may lie somewhere in between. If there's no new material information then adding to an existing review makes sense. The same person writing essentialy the same review every month would be a waste of time.

I have always tried to follow this approach myself. I've been to around 15 or so Phoenix parties but have only ever done one review. I do frequently add to new reviews put up by others.

[CoolTiger]

We welcome the extra information.  Suggest you just reply to your previous review rather than post a new positive to the same SP month after month. While 3 some is a loophole as written in the rules, the intent and consensus is clear:

- Reviews

* Only one positive review thread can be posted for a service provider by one member per 12 month period, the exception is if the new positive review is for a threesome (or more) booking. This 12-month restriction only applies to positive reviews, not neutral or negative (they can be posted anytime after a positive review). During the 12-month period a member can add their new positive reviews to their existing review thread in the form of a reply.

In my opinion Phoenix parties and parties in general don't fall into the rule quoted. The line ups change, the number of guests per party changes and in the case of Phoenix the location changes.

The dynamics of a party are different than a 1 to 1 so it is worthwhile having regular updates to report if standards are being maintained.

If the board started getting swamped by reviews of the same operator I'd agree comments should be added to existing reviews but I really don't think that's the case.

I can understand your concern but rather than limit one positive party review per person folks post responsibly.

AFAIR one review per year also applies to Parties, otherwise a member could submit a review every week on TPC, for a different girl each time!!

Will get Admin to clarify this.

[BigBoi1955]

AFAIR one review per year also applies to Parties, otherwise a member could submit a review every week on TPC, for a different girl each time!!

Will get Admin to clarify this.

The other extreme is if in month two they go to a party and there are five different girls and though the verdict is still a positive it is significantly better or worse than the previous one.
I think common sense is required and we don't "throw out the baby with the bath water" IMHO the only reason to do this is to prevent over enthusiastic White Knighting which m sure members will be quick enough to call out should it happen.

Any change will impact all parties and could end up resulting in fewer party reviews.

[smiths]

AFAIR one review per year also applies to Parties, otherwise a member could submit a review every week on TPC, for a different girl each time!!

Will get Admin to clarify this.

Certainly how I view it unless its a negative or neutral review following a previous positive within a year, or even a positive following a negative or neutral. But as ever its up to admin of course.

[notcalledchris]

On this topic of domestic duties.. was quite funny to see so many of my fellow punters wearing their wedding rings proudly while fucking.. it was quite funny to see haha

 

better than taking it off and loosing it.

[notcalledchris]

I agree. Barbara suffers by comparison to the other girls. In any line up she'll be 4th or 5th in physical desirability but I wouldn't agree with the advise to avoid line ups she's in.

One thing I didn't previously notice in the op's review was the ratio. 4 girls and 5 men is a great ratio for the men but not the organiser. I do hope their other parties are better attended because if they aren't they'll be going out of business soon which I for one would hate to see.

Barbara suffers from her tits being out of bounds.  Imho a play with a wg's tits is part of what im there for.

[notcalledchris]

If I’m not mistaken, this is Andrea:

External Link/Members Only

But names of girls get shared by both TPC and HOD so hopefully another can confirm

I can confirm she is the same girl and a fairly good fuck at either venue.

[BigBoi1955]

Barbara suffers from her tits being out of bounds.  Imho a play with a wg's tits is part of what im there for.

I've fucked Barbara at a few parties and her tits weren't out of bounds as I'd remember that but then again I don't remember playing with them either. When you're knobbing so many girls in such a short period of time things can be a blur.
If playing with her tits isn't allowed then she shouldn't be in any line up as 100% playing with breasts & sucking nipples should be a given as part of the service.

[fudi_maar]

If playing with her tits isn't allowed then she shouldn't be in any line up as 100% playing with breasts & sucking nipples should be a given as part of the service.

Sadly, I've found that a lot of girls don't allow me anywhere near their tits, which is a shame as I'm definitely a tit man. This is normally
with girls who haven't had boob jobs done. The ones with boob jobs tend to be more open to licking and sucking.
There is a hot newish girl called Danielle who has a smashing pair of natural DD's but won't let anyone near them. WTF?!
The English girl Scarlett has a big pair (EE's? FF's?) and is more than happy for guys to suck 'em to their hearts content.

[BigBoi1955]

Sadly, I've found that a lot of girls don't allow me anywhere near their tits, which is a shame as I'm definitely a tit man. This is normally
with girls who haven't had boob jobs done. The ones with boob jobs tend to be more open to licking and sucking.
There is a hot newish girl called Danielle who has a smashing pair of natural DD's but won't let anyone near them. WTF?!
The English girl Scarlett has a big pair (EE's? FF's?) and is more than happy for guys to suck 'em to their hearts content.

I am amazed at this as it hasn't been my experience. No girl at Phoenix has ever refused me playing or sucking their tits. If it had happened I'd have been on to the organisers asking WTF was going on. The girls at Phoenix have to do OWO so I'm sure they would be expected to allow tit play.
One of reasons to have as many party reviews as possible is to know if there are girls who have this attitude and so they can be avoided.

[Steely Dan]

One of reasons to have as many party reviews as possible is to know if there are girls who have this attitude and so they can be avoided.

As others have said a bit of common sense is all that is needed.  And OP mentioned, he had not even noted the rule.  And as I said in my gentle comment, there is leeway.

But if you are worried about the info, a response to a thread is equally good to share info, no? On some levels easier. The only real difference is the poster does not get extra review count, and the SP do not get extra review count.  And info is in fewer threads. The walk up thread shows that info is still well shared.

[jeezyuk]

What I might do in my next one is post TPC + girls names so people know it’s different WGs then will link the current reviews so people can see the amenities details but in the body I’ll only have girl info and amenity deviations.

That should suffice

[BigBoi1955]

This question came up yesterday and since then I have had time to properly reflect on the options and have changed my mind on the matter. In future I'll limit my reviews to one per organiser and add updates and future reviews to that thread.

The one change that is required is that when a member reports on a party or party organisation that is all that appears on the thread heading. Previously I and others would put the date on the heading and that effectively anchored that thread to that particular party. In future I'll have only the party name in the subject heading and will use that one thread to add any future reviews I have. I will continue to contribute to other threads about that party organiser if and when required.

This will work better for me as writing up a full party review takes a lot of time and sometimes you only want to do a brief update.

[jeezyuk]

This question came up yesterday and since then I have had time to properly reflect on the options and have changed my mind on the matter. In future I'll limit my reviews to one per organiser and add updates and future reviews to that thread.

The one change that is required is that when a member reports on a party or party organisation that is all that appears on the thread heading. Previously I and others would put the date on the heading and that effectively anchored that thread to that particular party. In future I'll have only the party name in the subject heading and will use that one thread to add any future reviews I have. I will continue to contribute to other threads about that party organiser if and when required.

This will work better for me as writing up a full party review takes a lot of time and sometimes you only want to do a brief update.

Fair enough

I like my approach too

I think this forum finds touts out easily so let’s just just get on with it and it’ll be fine

[Kingy28]

There are 31 girls in their gallery today. That gives 169,911 permutations for a 5 girl party!!

[Mightier Than]

There are 31 girls in their gallery today. That gives 169,911 permutations for a 5 girl party!!

Not quite.  This is the number of Combinations, not Permutations.  (Permutations are when the order matters, combinations are when the order doesn't matter).  Still, at 3 parties per day, 5 days per week it's enough to have a different line-up for over 200 years.  Hopefully they will have some more new girls by then!

[Mightier Than]

I am amazed at this as it hasn't been my experience. No girl at Phoenix has ever refused me playing or sucking their tits. If it had happened I'd have been on to the organisers asking WTF was going on. The girls at Phoenix have to do OWO so I'm sure they would be expected to allow tit play.
One of reasons to have as many party reviews as possible is to know if there are girls who have this attitude and so they can be avoided.

Not all the girls at Phoenix do OWO, so not sure where your info comes from.

[samtor]

Not all the girls at Phoenix do OWO, so not sure where your info comes from.

I've been going to Phoenix (LMP) regularly for 10+ years and I have never had OW.