ParisB on Mumsnet helping wives catch their husbands

[smiths]

You can tell people all you want, but it appears to me that the average punter who does not read forums etc is bloody naive. I saw Louise yesterday and a new(to her) punter had given her a handwritten card and had tucked his business card with the details of the company for which he is a director inside. The information he gave on the lead up to the booking was enough to I.D. him though. She did have a word with him, but it did not seem to sink in that the handwritten card could have been posted to the wife    The amount of information I have been given by a gentleman even on a first visit, which later on has proved to be true is frankly scary. Fine, Louise and myself are never going to do anything untoward with the information but a punter is never going to know if we are the sort to even if they have met us 101 times. Even warnings of "Okay, I am not going to use this info, but watch who you do share with in the future" falls on deaf ears to the majority 

I hear the same from many WGs, punters contacting them using work email addresses, giving out their business cards and/or saying where they work and even live in some cases. Naive is a good word to use in my view, and they are of course too trusting.

[hollysbeenabadgirl]

Naive is a good word to use in my view, and they are of course too trusting.

Well, it was the politest term I could think of 

[Tony Montana]

WG's are the same though.  I saw one girl who showed me her facebook page and pointed out one her her WG friend's pictures, that also had her name visible.

[OldSpice]

agree some girls i have seen in the past have shown me photos on their face book. One even showed me their personal website on a hobby of theirs . But then again, if you know a girls real name,  they obviously don't have a fear of being outed, it would be wrong to assume escorts are not open about what they do, I'm sure most keep it a secret but some don't and therefore would have nothing to fear well apart from stalker types so that is why I don't think its a very bright idea.

[ladiesman020]

I'm late to the party. Who is ParisB

[Sienna_Bronze]

I don't use my real name, but I have face pictures on my profile and I've often had punters say to me 'oh I saw you in Asda the other day' so I know people recognise me out and about. My family know what I do so I have no fear of being outed, but punters are always so open about their lives! I would never dream of telling some randomer that I had just met my life story.

[vorian]

I'm late to the party. Who is ParisB

A long story, best to read the whole thread as it containings a lot of useful information about the dangers of punting and how a punter can protect themselves from being outted. Most of the really important points are on the first 10/15 pages. Well worth any sensible punters time.

[vorian]

I don't use my real name, but I have face pictures on my profile and I've often had punters say to me 'oh I saw you in Asda the other day' so I know people recognise me out and about. My family know what I do so I have no fear of being outed, but punters are always so open about their lives! I would never dream of telling some randomer that I had just met my life story.

Nothing wrong with face pictures, some punters won't book without seeing one. Does'nt mean a WG shouldn't still try to protect herself from the occasional stalker nutter types (Which are very rare imho). Social media seems to be the quickest way for these weirdos to try and make a "Personal Connection". I understand basic privacy setting can be used but many prossies seem to forget this, punters too for that matter.

[Sienna_Bronze]

Nothing wrong with face pictures, some punters won't book without seeing one. Does'nt mean a WG shouldn't still try to protect herself from the occasional stalker nutter types (Which are very rare imho). Social media seems to be the quickest way for these weirdos to try and make a "Personal Connection". I understand basic privacy setting can be used but many prossies seem to forget this, punters too for that matter.

I've only ever had this problem once, and he knew me from school. I saw him as a punter and didn't recognise him although he clearly recognised me because after that he 'stalked' me on my Facebook and through Whatsapp. I soon blocked him but I now have my privacy settings very high now.

[Tailpipe]

I hear the same from many WGs, punters contacting them using work email addresses, giving out their business cards and/or saying where they work and even live in some cases. Naive is a good word to use in my view, and they are of course too trusting.

Before my UKP posting days I was naive to many of those issues, I foolishly  took it for granted
That punter and WG would never expose each other. I have always been for the most part
A very fussy and selective over the WGs I punted with and may be that is why I have not
Had any problems of this kind. I have posted before punter and WGs are locked into
A secret bubble with mutual benefits to both parties , both punter and WGs should respect
Each others private lives . I suspect for the most part they do.

[mattylondon]

Before my UKP posting days I was naive to many of those issues, I foolishly  took it for granted
That punter and WG would never expose each other.

Discretion and respect for privacy on both sides.

We're only talking about a tiny minority of women who do not hold this view. I believe they're predominately British (with one notable exception), 40 something and have generally seen their best days. I know quite a bit about a couple of these women. Enough to know that they lead very dysfunctional lives and would've left this business long ago, if they were equipped to. Men who have perhaps treated them badly, in their personal lives and left them on the shelf. It has made them embittered against men, although they try to mask this by accusing others of misogyny.

Honestly, I'm sure that it can't be easy, knowing that at one time you used to charge £150 an hour, for supplying minimal services, which didn't include French kissing or OWO. Services which, let's face it, were introduced by Eastern European girls at much lower prices. British women, just like others in Western Europe, had to follow suit in order to remain competitive.

I feel there's a lingering bitterness because punters will naturally gravitate to young and fit women, who offer better services at competitive rates. There is no room for sentiment and loyalty and prostitution is a ruthless business. Yes, there are some great older SPs who have stepped up to the plate but the bitter women I refer to aren't amongst their number. They are lazy, arrogant and became complacent. They cannot roll the clock back. If they were worth their salt, they wouldn't need to spend their waking hour posting on or moderating various forums. 

 

[Tailpipe]

Yes Matty you're explanation as to a probable course for the attitude change in certain
WGs makes perfect sense. 

May be they need to understand that their ability to earn money at this inflated level
Has a relative small time frame and provision for the future needs to be made
During there high earnings years.

As an older punting I see the impact of the EE girls have made and often they have a good
Attitude to there work and are in much better physical shape. 

Hence the search for good English girls become harder as matching the service and looks
Given by EE seems to be a bridge to far.

[mattylondon]

May be they need to understand that their ability to earn money at this inflated level Has a relative small time frame and provision for the future needs to be made

Spot on Tailpipe. I believe this is the key and salient point.

I feel this is a female trait, rather than the preserve of the prostitute. I've seen stunning women in the workplace become virtually unrecognizable within the space of a couple of years. And one has witnessed the crushing effect this realization had on their self esteem.

Let's be brutally frank and I mean this. The specific women I'm referring to are not fit. Show me one who is? At best they're below average. For a vocation that requires no training, qualifications, skill, is unregulated and where tax avoidance is the norm, rather than the exception, the financial rewards are tremendous for a smart prostitute. And good luck to those who are smart.

I think that if you were average looking and used to pulling in £150 a hour for very little effort, I don't think you'd be pleased if a much younger and fitter model started to take away your business. Of course, these younger and fitter models will themselves be replaced in due course. The smart ones will recognize that a plan for the future. 

[mattylondon]

Probably time for them to retire from the scene. 

[Sienna_Bronze]

Just out of interest what age do you think is the best for a wg to retire? I tend not to think of an age but when all this starts to effect you mentally and you don't enjoy it any more and that could be any age.

[vorian]

Just out of interest what age do you think is the best for a wg to retire? I tend not to think of an age but when all this starts to effect you mentally and you don't enjoy it any more and that could be any age.

30 imo,  unless they are able to extend their working years by moving into a specialist area such as BDSM.  Which requires effort, training and great expense to become very good at,  as age is much less important in the hardcore aspect then age is unimportant to a degree. However if a WG is focused on GFE or perhaps PSE then I would say 30 is the limit. I am sure many punters will disagree with me on that figure.

[smiths]

Yes Matty you're explanation as to a probable course for the attitude change in certain
WGs makes perfect sense. 

May be they need to understand that their ability to earn money at this inflated level
Has a relative small time frame and provision for the future needs to be made
During there high earnings years.

As an older punting I see the impact of the EE girls have made and often they have a good
Attitude to there work and are in much better physical shape. 

Hence the search for good English girls become harder as matching the service and looks
Given by EE seems to be a bridge to far.

Indeed, which i take with a huge pinch of salt WGs that say they only see 3 punters a week, it defies my logic which is to cash in while you can, which from my experiences and observations over the years is what most WGs do, and its the smart thing to do as i see it. Thats not to say a WG cant be a WG for many years, because some can and do so, there is a market for MILFs, even a market for GILFs although thats likely to be limited.

[NinaBlack]

I find it hard to understand why a WG would want to out punters when a punter pays you he isn't just paying for sex but also discretion ParisB broke the biggest unwritten rule that there is. I don't particularly care about my punters personal life as I keep mine extremely private, I never give out my real name or any hint of it nor my real birthday or even hobbies I like to keep my WG persona and myself separate.

It always surprises me that some of the men that come to see me are so trusting telling me about their wife and children, work and other information that would make them extremely vulnerable to them being outed or blackmailed with, I hope some of those type of men read this thread and realise how cautious they really need to be. The general rules should be the same for WGs and punters have a separate phone and email address, a false name and don't give out any personal information!

[smiths]

30 imo,  unless they are able to extend their working years by moving into a specialist area such as BDSM.  Which requires effort, training and great expense to become very good at,  as age is much less important in the hardcore aspect then age is unimportant to a degree. However if a WG is focused on GFE or perhaps PSE then I would say 30 is the limit. I am sure many punters will disagree with me on that figure.

Yes i certainly disagree with that. Many excellent WGs i have punted with were between 30-35 ish and in great condition. As ever it depends on the individual WG, some will be in rough condition of course.

I never just beleive a WGs advertised age as it endemic to lie in punting and go on condition myself, if the real in the flesh WG doesnt look like her pics and i dont fancy the real her i walk.

[Tailpipe]

Just out of interest what age do you think is the best for a wg to retire? I tend not to think of an age but when all this starts to effect you mentally and you don't enjoy it any more and that could be any age.

There are some very attractive ladies at the age of 50 not many I grant you but there are .
As for a WG may be 40 if they have look after themselves and stayed away from the toot .
Think the most attractive age and we have done poles on UKP  age is around 25.
However taste differ as we all know.

However to work from 20 to 40 as a WG does seem unlikely , as I believe that it courses
Mental stress on most girls as for the most part goes against the social stereotyping
Of the fairer sex needing some form of connected sex and not just allowing there body
To be used as a vessel for punters to dump there rubbish.

Think Dan has posted some sense on this complex subject , as I suspect the most happy
WGs just love having sex and enjoy having new paying partners all the time. 

However I would not claim to be an expert , however when you get to know a WG overtime
It's clear that , there minds have been effected by punting to some level or another.

As a punter you can not do more than turn up on time clean and looking part ,
Be respectful and hope the the WG respond to be treated with respect and treat you the
Same way. This approach has served me well over the years and they always seem
Happy to have me back. However in reality they could of course be thinking something
Completely different.

[mattylondon]

Just out of interest what age do you think is the best for a wg to retire?

At the point she starts to become cynical and jaded because at that point, she is no longer giving of her best. 

The sister skanks being long past that date. As for Paris B, a prossie who never hesitates to brag how much money she is making or has made. Far too money obsessed and her shitty attitude shows that she too has become cynical and jaded. 

[pleasure]

30 imo,  unless they are able to extend their working years by moving into a specialist area such as BDSM.

Is that 30 in Adultwork years, or normal years?

[akauya]

Just out of interest what age do you think is the best for a wg to retire? I tend not to think of an age but when all this starts to effect you mentally and you don't enjoy it any more and that could be any age.

Age is irrelevant. A wg should retire when she no longer feels like she can handle the job and no longer feels like she can provide a good service. You said it yourself, if it starts affecting you mentally and you don't enjoy the job any more then that is when you should retire... that could be in your 20s, 30s, 40s or whatever age... as long as you give a good service there will always be punters wanting to see you whatever age you are.

[vorian]

Is that 30 in Adultwork years, or normal years?

Real years, of course I agree there are many exceptions to this and of course a market for the Milf/Gilf.
I was simply choosing a number and think 30 is a reasonable number imo.  Saying that I would rather the good prossies don't retire, it is the good ones which make it worth while. I would rather the 95% of new WGs who are crap,  never started in the first place.

[smiths]

Age is irrelevant. A wg should retire when she no longer feels like she can handle the job and no longer feels like she can provide a good service. You said it yourself, if it starts affecting you mentally and you don't enjoy the job any more then that is when you should retire... that could be in your 20s, 30s, 40s or whatever age... as long as you give a good service there will always be punters wanting to see you whatever age you are.

Absolutely, though as they get older less punters overall might be interested in them. There is certainly a market for MILFs and older.

[mattylondon]

Is that 30 in Adultwork years, or normal years?

30 in dog years. 

[akauya]

Absolutely, though as they get older less punters overall might be interested in them. There is certainly a market for MILFs and older.

Very true, if I'm still punting in my 80s I'll probably go for fit prossies in their 50s

[Daffodil]

You be careful, ParisB (fucking skank)

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[Tailpipe]

You be careful, ParisB (fucking skank)

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Good find daff , why would you pay to sex with that 

[Eager Thighs]

Christ! 3 days I've spent catching up with this thread and I am very pleased I have. First of all I want to thank the resident UKP detective that brought all this to light, sterling work my friend. Dear oh dear, hasn't ParisB been a very, very naughty girl then. Originally I had a lot to say on this topic but as I've been reading my way through all 60 pages I've found 99% of my thoughts have already been covered since I was so late to the party. There is however one detail that I feel was overlooked or not brought up in this thread and it is something that 'her sister' said to the MumsNetters.

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Ask yourselves this. Do those really sound like the words of a drug taking, junkie street walker OR a narcissistic, LOOK-AT-ME-I-HAVE-LOADS-OF-MONEY, international prossie like ParisB? If her sister is such scum, walking the streets and giving blowies to fund her next fix like Paris claims, why would she claim to be Miss Money-Bags on mumsnet which coincidentally is the same kind of crap her 'sister' ParisB comes out with on a regular basis in her blog and various forums she inhabits.

Granted, apart from a few fluffies the general consensus of this thread is that ParisB is damned by the overwhelming amount of evidence against her and I am probably splitting hairs bringing this up now but it's something I thought I could add to the discussion and yet another nail into the coffin of ParisB's business.

[Daffodil]

You're dead right, and more evidence is certainly welcome, but the ship has sailed.

I'd say it's been proven 110% that it was ParisB.

The wording you have highlighted is very compelling, it is the same as ParisB has been saying for some time. Good spot.

[akauya]

Christ! 3 days I've spent catching up with this thread and I am very pleased I have. First of all I want to thank the resident UKP detective that brought all this to light, sterling work my friend. Dear oh dear, hasn't ParisB been a very, very naughty girl then. Originally I had a lot to say on this topic but as I've been reading my way through all 60 pages I've found 99% of my thoughts have already been covered since I was so late to the party. There is however one detail that I feel was overlooked or not brought up in this thread and it is something that 'her sister' said to the MumsNetters.

Hidden Image/Members Only

Ask yourselves this. Do those really sound like the words of a drug taking, junkie street walker OR a narcissistic, LOOK-AT-ME-I-HAVE-LOADS-OF-MONEY, international prossie like ParisB? If her sister is such scum, walking the streets and giving blowies to fund her next fix like Paris claims, why would she claim to be Miss Money-Bags on mumsnet which coincidentally is the same kind of crap her 'sister' ParisB comes out with on a regular basis in her blog and various forums she inhabits.

Granted, apart from a few fluffies the general consensus of this thread is that ParisB is damned by the overwhelming amount of evidence against her and I am probably splitting hairs bringing this up now but it's something I thought I could add to the discussion and yet another nail into the coffin of ParisB's business.

Sorry mate it wasn't over looked. I commented on it on page 4...

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=24595.msg358967#msg358967

But it's good to hear you read the thread and joined in the collective shock and horror we all felt 

[Matium]

How the mighty are fallen!

She has such a high status and reputation on Prossienet (and how typical they banned any discussion of her!),

The thing is, she's been a prostitute for years, f not decades, so she's probably built up such a large stack of regulars, who she can always rely upon, that she simply won't care about the criticism she gets here, or on any other fora, however, her reputation's been shot to threads so she won't get any bookings from discerning punters.

The gullible and the ignorant, however, will always be hers to exploit.

[Daffodil]

How the mighty are fallen!

She has such a high status and reputation on Prossienet (and how typical they banned any discussion of her!),

The thing is, she's been a prostitute for years, f not decades, so she's probably built up such a large stack of regulars, who she can always rely upon, that she simply won't care about the criticism she gets here, or on any other fora, however, her reputation's been shot to threads so she won't get any bookings from discerning punters.

The gullible and the ignorant, however, will always be hers to exploit.

She definitely does care. Hence her actions since. It has definitely cost her a lot of money.

[mattylondon]

She has such a high status and reputation on Prossienet (and how typical they banned any discussion of her!),

That's no longer relevant, in the punting world. A time long gone.

[curry]

So mumsnet has been hacked and personal messages of members have been stolen lets see what turns up!

[JayGatsby]

Any truth that it was ParisB's sister that hacked it?

[Daffodil]

Any truth that it was ParisB's sister that hacked it?

No 

[Tony Montana]

It's a pity for Paris it has only come to light now. She could have used it S one of her ridiculous excuses.

[vorian]

It's a pity for Paris it has only come to light now. She could have used it S one of her ridiculous excuses.

She still might, best keep an eye on her blog 

[smiths]

It's a pity for Paris it has only come to light now. She could have used it S one of her ridiculous excuses.

And fortunate for punters she was outed before this incident of course.

[mattylondon]

And fortunate for punters she was outed before this incident of course.

Indeed or they'd have been quite a few apologists and idiots who thought otherwise. Unfortunately for her, she's already exposed herself via Twitter and a couple of other sites. Stupid bitch.

[Charlotte-Rose]

Hi,

This is nothing to do with me, Charlotte Rose of Exeter - Now London

C x

[cunnyhunt]

Hi,

This is nothing to do with me, Charlotte Rose of Exeter - Now London

C x

Do you need to tout 

[grandmaster-ram-rod]

Hi,

This is nothing to do with me, Charlotte Rose of Exeter - Now London

C x

I cant see any reason for you to post this, the thread had not been posted on for months, and your post added nothing to it,  has your phone gone quiet?

[OldAdmin]

I presume she is responding to this post from page 13:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=24595.msg359480#msg359480

Confused at the crap on Mumsnet. 

How did we know it was Paris B posting?

 Is Charlearose the same Charlotte Rose of Exeter? Notice many of her posts now removed.,

[OldAdmin]

Adam has made it clear that he will ban any girl who has white knights and a fan club on UKP.

You were kissing my ass as "Hellraiser" and being a proper vile nasty woman hater and anti-fluffy hard man.
Yet in your recent troll accounts you came on here posting how UKP were racists and misogynists.
That's the real you isn't it, total opposite of the fake Hellraiser persona you tried on.
You managed to fool some members who thought you were genuine.
But you didn't manage to fool me.

[grandmaster-ram-rod]

I presume she is responding to this post from page 13:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=24595.msg359480#msg359480

thanks for clearing that up

[Alexix]

I know that the thread is very old but  I am reading Punting Wiki to learn something more about those girls in the blacklist.
How did you find out that ParisB posted on mumsnet? Her name is not mentioned in that forum.   

[Turtle Z]

I know that the thread is very old but  I am reading Punting Wiki to learn something more about those girls in the blacklist.
How did you find out that ParisB posted on mumsnet? Her name is not mentioned in that forum.   

I suggest you read the whole 60 pages of this thread, it's a long story...