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But why? It’s not like he’s going to ask for a blowjob.

Discretion obviously, would you want everyone to know?
People do look down on escorts...

Your making yourself look stupid now..
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for my own sanity , jeez whats the issue dude. woudl you put cock sucker on your cv to the bank?
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I'll rephrase the question then, what is illegal about prostitution in this country??    :unknown:   If it's legal it can be legally declared and tax can be paid on it.

I would recommend anyone partaking in this hobby to familiarise themselves with the legalities of it.    :hi:

Then why are hookers putting it down as a different profession?

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I don’t know ask HMRC

Your post seems to imply they wouldn't by not accepting "prostitute" as an employment.

They would:

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for my own sanity , jeez whats the issue dude. woudl you put cock sucker on your cv to the bank?

Cocksucker is a derogatory term. Prostitute is not.

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It is legal. Certain practices often associated with it (e.g. pimping and brothels) aren't.

Correct but it wouldn't matter anyway. All income derived from 'a trade' is liable to tax irrespective of the legality of that trade.

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That must make it really easy to catch bank robbers, drug dealers etc.

They have to put names and addresses on tax returns, right?

Why'd we need police then?

Someone has to issue the speeding tickets I suppose.

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Then why are hookers putting it down as a different profession?

I would've thought that was obvious. If you want to continue in this hobby I would suggest you familiarise yourself with all the legalities of it, including under what circumstances a punter could be arrested.

Correct but it wouldn't matter anyway. All income derived from 'a trade' is liable to tax irrespective of the legality of that trade.

I doubt that very much, anything illegal comes under the proceeds of crime act not inland revenue.
 




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Your post seems to imply they wouldn't by not accepting "prostitute" as an employment.

They would:

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That’s good to know. Now more hookers can state their profession.

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Then why are hookers putting it down as a different profession?
I do know one who I saw many, many years ago who said she puts sex worker down. Whether she was lying or not who cares?

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I would've thought that was obvious. If you want to continue in this hobby I would suggest you familiarise yourself with all the legalities of it, including under what circumstances a punter could be arrested.

 What’s that got to do with anything? We’re not talking about punters.

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What’s that got to do with anything? We’re not talking about punters.

You are showing how little knowledge you have of the legalities of this game so I suggested you should familiarise yourself with what you could be arrested for, just a bit of friendly advice, up to you if you take it or not.

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Secondly, this is a thread about "Escort's strange life choices".  It's not a thread about paying tax in general.

Then why did you consider it either necessary or relevant to raise the issue at all?

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It's a legal activity, i can't see any legal/ tax  reason why somebody couldn't put it on tax return.

Probably seldom done for two reasons:-
1/ WG not wanting her job being widely known...we all know how censorious most people are.
2/ Tax man might expect better earnings for a WG than most professions, suspect many of takings would be in cash...and look at return particularly carefully.

Good points, I would also add that submitting tax returns as an escort could also invite further scrutiny in the form of property checks, not something anyone would wish for when wanting to maintain a semblance of privacy; or even to eviction by a landlord who's hand maybe forced.

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That must make it really easy to catch bank robbers, drug dealers etc.

They have to put names and addresses on tax returns, right?

Why'd we need police then?

Someone has to issue the speeding tickets I suppose.

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Then why did you consider it either necessary or relevant to raise the issue at all?

Because there's discussion in the thread about WGs paying tax.

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for my own sanity , jeez whats the issue dude. woudl you put cock sucker on your cv to the bank?

100% yes.

Hang on, are we talking about the banker or me?

"Hello Cocksucker, here's my CV"



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Yes you do 1 neg and the 3 positives arnt exactly “smoke “ blowing . We’re u pissed when u wrote that ?

I had more pos review than that, before a person rightly got kicked. And including AW reviews. I don't only consider UKP reviews when thinking of my feedback.

And I wasn't pissed. Just annoyingly having to wake up early for my day job. Unlike yourself not all of us have the luxury of a 9 to 5, I work in research, so it's whatever my experiments dictate I just be up, or my students call me on my emergency line.

Maybe you think everyone is 100% honest and evey compliment is 100% true. But I'm don't. I feel that would involve a certain level of arrogance that I just don't have around sex work. I believe I can always do better. To feel like I can settle would suggest I know all about sex, but I don't. I think we all can always learn more.

Whether it applies to you or not is your own decision. But to suggest I must be drunk to call into question some of my own compliments... Doesn't really line up.

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That must make it really easy to catch bank robbers, drug dealers etc.

They have to put names and addresses on tax returns, right?

Why'd we need police then?

Someone has to issue the speeding tickets I suppose.

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As I have been informed by accountants and lawyer friends. HMRC is really only interested in earnings within certain brackets. Mostly relating to how much it would could them recovering it. It's more the mid fudging they tend to go after, not the low or really really high (low can't pay it, really really high have lawyers who will screw them out of earnings from it). At least that was what I was told.

I've never met a Scorpio that isn't a nighthawk.

How the fuck did you know I was a Scorpio?!?!? That's spooky. Although that carries true for anyone working in biology, we just don't have hours.

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As I have been informed by accountants and lawyer friends. HMRC is really only interested in earnings within certain brackets. Mostly relating to how much it would could them recovering it. It's more the mid fudging they tend to go after, not the low or really really high (low can't pay it, really really high have lawyers who will screw them out of earnings from it). At least that was what I was told.

How the fuck did you know I was a Scorpio?!?!? That's spooky. Although that carries true for anyone working in biology, we just don't have hours.

First bit is true its not cost affective at either extreme

second bit is on your profile or he delivered the flowers ...
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You are showing how little knowledge you have of the legalities of this game so I suggested you should familiarise yourself with what you could be arrested for, just a bit of friendly advice, up to you if you take it or not.

You keep saying that and nothing else! Maybe you should familiarise yourself with a dictionary.  :D

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You keep saying that and nothing else! Maybe you should familiarise yourself with a dictionary.  :D

Repeating seems to be the only way for you to have any chance of grasping even the basic legalities of this game. I'm not really sure what else I can say, you are wrong in just about everything you've said, you just can't accept it.


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I doubt that very much, anything illegal comes under the proceeds of crime act not inland revenue.

Apologies I missed that first post. Sorry to go off at a tangent here

That's dated Oct 2000, PoCA came into force Feb 2003.   :unknown:

Yes good point it does indeed predate POCA which is an interesting one with regard to HMRC, but does not alter the underlying principle that HMRC will not routinely inform the police of illegality and will happily accept tax revenue from an illegal business.

The best scenario for HMRC is a thriving trader paying tax on good profits and therefore no real need to question the legality of that trader.

If they suspect tax evasion then a basic investigation process for recovery may  take place hopefully to recover more revenue without jeopardising the trader and therefore losing future revenue. HMRC also have to balance the cost of any investigation against potential revenue recovery. Once again the legality is not important and if during that process illegality is uncovered, HMRC will not normally inform the Police unless a serious crime involving harm etc.

The next option is a civil court recovery action to seize money and assets which may result in the business folding. This is costly for everyone.

If HMRC believes that money laundering has taken place in order to hide potential assets, then only then will they consider working with the Police and CPS to pursue a criminal action in the hope of widening the net on potential asset recovery. POCA for the revenue tends to be used as a last resort “sledgehammer to crack a nut” and is a complex and costly process and requires a guilty verdict to succeed. (although I think POCA does allow a civil action instead where the burden of proof of illegality is less?)

The Sandy’s Superstar’s parlour in Manchester is a classic example of how the revenue were happy to take tax from an illegal business for 20 years before deciding there may be richer picking by bringing criminal money laundering charges and recovery of ‘significant’ monies under POCA. They failed badly, costing the tax payer money in the process, as well as any future tax revenue that the thriving business would have continued to contribute .... albeit illegally.

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You keep saying that and nothing else! Maybe you should familiarise yourself with a dictionary.  :D

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As I have been informed by accountants and lawyer friends. HMRC is really only interested in earnings within certain brackets. Mostly relating to how much it would could them recovering it. It's more the mid fudging they tend to go after, not the low or really really high (low can't pay it, really really high have lawyers who will screw them out of earnings from it). At least that was what I was told.

How the fuck did you know I was a Scorpio?!?!? That's spooky. Although that carries true for anyone working in biology, we just don't have hours.
Yep. On your aw interview. I also understand the Scorpio mindset and characteristics better than most people, but I will end it there as people will get sick of me mentioning astrology at every opportunity. I will save it for reviews instead.

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. Unlike yourself not all of us have the luxury of a 9 to 5, I work in research, so it's whatever my experiments dictate I just be up, or my students call me on my emergency line.



9 to 5 ? haha i  fucking wish i start my day job at 6am  :wacko:
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er because i do care , i didnt want the bank man knowing . simple as that , as i mentioned .

you are good at lying so you could put down anything you want  :sarcastic:

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Yep. On your aw interview. I also understand the Scorpio mindset and characteristics better than most people, but I will end it there as people will get sick of me mentioning astrology at every opportunity. I will save it for reviews instead.

I've never paid much to astrology. The idea that 1/12 of the population fits into certain ideas is pretty poor. People vary too much for that.

First bit is true its not cost affective at either extreme

second bit is on your profile or he delivered the flowers ...

I did have gentlemen deliver flowers. A couple were quite nice. One got slammed with a restraining order. But the 400+ flowers were not the cause of it.

9 to 5 ? haha i  fucking wish i start my day job at 6am  :wacko:

I work 24/7/365, despite my contract saying otherwise. I've not been able to take proper time off outside of illness/family deaths/weddings in over 3 years. I feel lucky if I'm not woken up at 6am on a Sunday demanding I go in. More annoying as I'm not paid for it. But does allow me the time for escorting as I have insane amounts of TOIL every week. Want me to work a sixty hour week, pay me it, or be prepared for me to disappear to get the pay elsewhere during my TOIL.

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I've never paid much to astrology. The idea that 1/12 of the population fits into certain ideas is pretty poor. People vary too much for that.
It's just my interest, but I do find it to have some accuracy. For example I've never met a Gemini that isn't chatty.

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It's just my interest, but I do find it to have some accuracy. For example I've never met a Gemini that isn't chatty.
ah but are all chatty people Gemini?

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Cocksucker is a derogatory term. Prostitute is not.

Wow.

I'd say cocksucker is not a derogatory term, as many non whores do it. Like our mums, and our sisters.

No bad thing.

But prostitute on the other hand, means.... whore. Soulless women who sell their souls and identity for monetary gain.
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How these things have become so convoluted I have no idea. But welcome to 2019.

Newsflash, they're not the same.

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Of course not, and absolutely not.

The only point I was making is that an independent SP with her own place has to prove income in order to be able to rent a property.  And I already stated they most likely pay as little tax as possible, I know I would if I could get away with it or was self employed.

Every sane person who can* avoids paying as much tax as they can. I have given financial guarantees to two girls I like, one I don't even bother seeing for sex; I just like her and sympathise with her problems - yes Corky the ignorant, many girls have problems.

* "Able to" means self-employed. Which means risking your own money and if you're any good giving others jobs. Which has its ups and downs - like not being able to pay oneself. I haven't drawn a salary for 4 years, just lived on savings.


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I could be wrong but as far as I know they can’t put it down because the law doesn’t allow it. Possibly because it’s seen as immoral earnings.

As far as the advice I've received is concerned it is quite possible to state occupation as "Prostitute" on a tax return, I and my accountant use 'Escort' but I could use the P word if I wished and so could anyone else.

Also currently there is not an offence of 'living off immoral earnings'.

'Control for gain' yes but unless HMRC are arranging bookings, they are in the clear.
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you are good at lying so you could put down anything you want  :sarcastic:

Sarcasm. Lowest form of wit. Why do so man here hate girls?

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Wow.

I'd say cocksucker is not a derogatory term, as many non whores do it. Like our mums, and our sisters.

No bad thing.

But prostitute on the other hand, means.... whore. Soulless women who sell their souls and identity for monetary gain.
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How these things have become so convoluted I have no idea. But welcome to 2019.

Newsflash, they're not the same.
Are you a cocksucker?

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Why do so man here hate girls?

Man or many? your literacy skills need attention  :hi:

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Sarcasm. Lowest form of wit. Why do so man here hate girls?

In a word jealousy. Not so much that I suck cock for a living  but more that we are successful . Happy and earn well and he doesn’t like that
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Man or many? your literacy skills need attention  :hi:
Oscar Wilde was also being sarcastic when he said it. It's strange how a joke has somehow been considered a literal statement.

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In a word jealousy. Not so much that I suck cock for a living  but more that we are successful . Happy and earn well and he doesn’t like that


 Success is relative darling and happiness is fleeting.

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Wow.

I'd say cocksucker is not a derogatory term, as many non whores do it. Like our mums, and our sisters.

No bad thing.

But prostitute on the other hand, means.... whore. Soulless women who sell their souls and identity for monetary gain.
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How these things have become so convoluted I have no idea. But welcome to 2019.

Newsflash, they're not the same.

I don't know about that. Cocksucker is almost always used as a term to refer to gay men/insult to men. Like muff diver with lesbians.

And hey, I'm not soulless because I'm a prossie. I traded in my soul for my awesome faux red hair. Get your stereotypes right  :D

Or bankers, pharma company workers, politicians... actually there's a lot that are apparently "selling their souls". Never heard anyone but you say providers do it. We're just renting out our bodies for an hour for so at a time. Soul is firmly stored in the vault.

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Man or many? your literacy skills need attention  :hi:

My typing skills. On the literary front I have written 5 books published between them in 17 languages. And your skills, other than nit-picking?

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My typing skills. On the literary front I have written 5 books published between them in 17 languages. And your skills, other than nit-picking?

Erika Leonard Wrote a few best selling novels that I’m sure grossed a lot more than you ever will and her literacy skills are shite so your point is  :unknown:

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(in response to the red haired lady. Apologies but I can't get the quote thing to work properly.)

Because having sex with strangers is the same as banking?

I have no time for investment bankers, and I know a few, even in my own family. But I certainly don't class them as in the same vien as someone who opens their door, then their legs for someone they have never met before.

If you find it empowering, then good for you, but let's be honest. If you had the ability to make £200 ah hour by not banging geezers you don't know, you'd do it.

Your life, your choice, but let's at least call a spade a spade and admit its not th same as being a liar and a cheat (a la bankers and politicians).

They're not having to lie back and think of England while some dude does his business.

Although you are picky with your customers by all accounts, so I'll give you that. Its at least giving you some control.
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Are you a cocksucker?

No idea why you'd ask that but the answer is no, however if I was I wouldn't do it for money.

The point is that it's a perfectly normal sexual act, conducted by millions of people every day. To say its a worse term than prostitution is (in my opinion) ridiculous.

I use prostitutes like I use drugs. I know its not a good idea, but it makes me happy.

lets not try and pretend it isn't what it is.
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No idea why you'd ask that but the answer is no, however if I was I wouldn't do it for money.

The point is that it's a perfectly normal sexual act, conducted by millions of people every day. To say its a worse term than prostitution is (in my opinion) ridiculous.

I use prostitutes like I use drugs. I know its not a good idea, but it makes me happy.

lets not try and pretend it isn't what it is.
It's snarky humour, not particularly funny, but I'm not for people who are easily offended.

I think you have a lot of hidden guilt and anxiety. Prostitute isn't a rude word. Cocksucker is. I wouldn't want to be called a cunt licker. I don't mind being called a slut or slutty though.

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It's snarky humour, not particularly funny, but I'm not for people who are easily offended.

I think you have a lot of hidden guilt and anxiety. Prostitute isn't a rude word. Cocksucker is. I wouldn't want to be called a cunt licker. I don't mind being called a slut or slutty though.

Guilt, perhaps, anxiety, no.

I get your point, it's semantics. My point is more about the normalisation of something that is in fact a vice.

I'm in the same boat. But I can can see its not the best boat to be in.

Just my opinion mate. No offence meant to you.

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Guilt, perhaps, anxiety, no.

I get your point, it's semantics. My point is more about the normalisation of something that is in fact a vice.

I'm in the same boat. But I can can see its not the best boat to be in.

Just my opinion mate. No offence meant to you.
No offence taken. I don't want to get into politics, but far worse things than paid sex are normalised illegal drugs for example which does more harm to society.

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reading your last few reviews you seem to be a bit of a chubby hater.
Im not fat or skint alone yes but i want to be! rather than be with a twat

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(in response to the red haired lady. Apologies but I can't get the quote thing to work properly.)

Because having sex with strangers is the same as banking?

I have no time for investment bankers, and I know a few, even in my own family. But I certainly don't class them as in the same vien as someone who opens their door, then their legs for someone they have never met before.

If you find it empowering, then good for you, but let's be honest. If you had the ability to make £200 ah hour by not banging geezers you don't know, you'd do it.

Your life, your choice, but let's at least call a spade a spade and admit its not th same as being a liar and a cheat (a la bankers and politicians).

They're not having to lie back and think of England while some dude does his business.

Although you are picky with your customers by all accounts, so I'll give you that. Its at least giving you some control.


Push the button that says quote.
I kind of see where your coming from  but surely there is a chance that an sp actually enjoys the job (at least some of the time ) whether because of the actual act or maybe the power trip ? or perhaps the money ?
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