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Well looks like she posted at 5.15 am yesterday - So yeah perfectly possible - Or just a very long night  :sarcastic:
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I've never understood that one.

Why?

Why would an SP do another job, probably in most cases for barely above minimum wage, when they can make that in a couple of hours acting?

I can understand why they would say they have one, to family, the tax man, landlords, friends etc. They've got have some way to account for the money and why they aren't there.

But why tell punters  who know what they do?

Or even more puzzling, why would they actually have another job? It's not as if these days they could use it for laundering purposes.

But I'm probably just very naive in the ways of SPs.

I can't speak on behalf of any prossie as I don't know if or why they would have another job, I do know that quite a few years ago when I was working in a full time reasonably well paid job, that gave me a decent standard of living, I also worked a couple of nights as a barman in a local pub, on minimum wage. Why? because I enjoyed it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has one job as a main source of income and does another because the enjoy doing it, with the added bonus of getting paid, regardless of the amount.

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I can't speak on behalf of any prossie as I don't know if or why they would have another job, I do know that quite a few years ago when I was working in a full time reasonably well paid job, that gave me a decent standard of living, I also worked a couple of nights as a barman in a local pub, on minimum wage. Why? because I enjoyed it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has one job as a main source of income and does another because the enjoy doing it, with the added bonus of getting paid, regardless of the amount.
He he. I also did agency work (paid about £7 an hour I think) when I was doing about 30 hours a week elsewhere. Why? Because it was a fucking amazing way to meet EE women.  :cool:

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He he. I also did agency work (paid about £7 an hour I think) when I was doing about 30 hours a week elsewhere. Why? Because it was a fucking amazing way to meet EE women.  :cool:

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You clearly know the square toot of fuck-all about the real world of escorting. It's bloody hard work; unless you are very organised like say EnglishRebecca121 the career is usually very short; us clients are spectacularly unreliable besides being unattractive, often drunk or in my case decrepit and in yours ignorant. And so on.

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I'm still looking forward to your reviews wonko, but I think there might be more chance of me fucking a size 8 Romanian than you writing one.
For at least the next few months it is very unlikely there will be one, so have fun with your trip to Romania.

I am significantly disabled, my experiences with particular SPs have mostly been non starters, the way an SP will typically behave/treat me is likely not reflective of the way they will treat a normal punter, so a review of my experience is not particularly relevant to what anyone else would find.

When I have a 'normal' punt then I will consider reviewing it, if I can figure out a way of making it even slightly anonymous - so far this has not happened.

I'm not prepared to go into more details on a public forum, as the details would inform any SP I have met of who I am.

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He he. I also did agency work (paid about £7 an hour I think) when I was doing about 30 hours a week elsewhere. Why? Because it was a fucking amazing way to meet EE women.  :cool:

These types of post always make me laugh, there's loads of reasons why a prossie wants to be a prossie. Looking at their availability can also give a clue to them having a 'normal' job.

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For at least the next few months it is very unlikely there will be one, so have fun with your trip to Romania.

I am significantly disabled, my experiences with particular SPs have mostly been non starters, the way an SP will typically behave/treat me is likely not reflective of the way they will treat a normal punter, so a review of my experience is not particularly relevant to what anyone else would find.

When I have a 'normal' punt then I will consider reviewing it, if I can figure out a way of making it even slightly anonymous - so far this has not happened.

I'm not prepared to go into more details on a public forum, as the details would inform any SP I have met of who I am.
Thanks for the reply Wonko and no offence intended. Like a lot of people I am bored of members boasting about experiences and not sharing it, more so punters who have been members for years. Sorry, I was too quick to judge and now know you are genuine.

Looks like I will have to find a size 8 Roma then.

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These types of post always make me laugh, there's loads of reasons why a prossie wants to be a prossie. Looking at their availability can also give a clue to them having a 'normal' job.
Another reason is many have children and who wouldn't want to work a few hours a week and devote their time to their children? Sounds perfect to me. What people forget is a lot of escorts time is "dead time" sitting around waiting not just for bookings, but also for the punter to turn up or replying to emails etc. Obviously for us it's different as we are the payer, but even the prep work we do is tedious which is why when it pays off it is so beautiful.

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For at least the next few months it is very unlikely there will be one, so have fun with your trip to Romania.

I am significantly disabled, my experiences with particular SPs have mostly been non starters, the way an SP will typically behave/treat me is likely not reflective of the way they will treat a normal punter, so a review of my experience is not particularly relevant to what anyone else would find.

When I have a 'normal' punt then I will consider reviewing it, if I can figure out a way of making it even slightly anonymous - so far this has not happened.

I'm not prepared to go into more details on a public forum, as the details would inform any SP I have met of who I am.

If you could find a way of doing a review without compromising yourself I'm sure there are other disabled punters who would find the information useful.

There's a positive review here from a guy who had his carer take him to the punt so good experiences can be had.    :hi:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=195771.msg2027610#msg2027610

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If you could find a way of doing a review without compromising yourself I'm sure there are other disabled punters who would find the information useful.

There's a positive review here from a guy who had his carer take him to the punt so good experiences can be had.    :hi:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=195771.msg2027610#msg2027610
Interesting review and more interesting comments.

I can't see a way of doing that right now.

Given the nature of my disabilities I've had to inform SPs prior to meeting, and upon meeting, to make sure they were okay with me in the flesh.

Whilst not unique I am the only person that these particular SPs claim to have met with this combination of disabilities and limitations.

I have not spent time with many SPs.

I have only met one more than once.

I could either do a review which left out all of the bits people want to see in reviews, that just contained things like the premises/access security, how tidy it was, what she was wearing, that sort of thing, as how the WG behaves etc is not likely to be representative of how she would so with someone who is both physically able and neurotypical - pointless.

Or I could do a review with the aims of informing punters with a similar range of disabilities to myself what it was like - but that would immediately make me identifiable.

Until I reach a point where a more 'normal' punt occurs and can do a more normal review it seems pointless to do the first type of review, and as the second would affect a minimal number of members and likely identify me.

It is taking much longer than expected to reach this point, I didn't realise, wasn't aware, that years of being bed bound would have other effects, not once I could walk again. My best guess is months, it could be on the next booking, it could be in a years time. No idea, but until that time, I'm sorry. If that means I get the odd comment or even banned for not posting a review on demand then that's life.

I'm seeing SPs because, on occasion, I like female company, and this seems to be my only remaining option.

I'm here, and a few other places, to try and understand both sides of the coin, mainly only chipping in if I think I have a perspective that may be helpful. Most of the time, it seems, I have been wrong.

I wasn't aware that anything I had posted could be interpreted as 'boasting about experiences'.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2019, 02:02:58 pm by wonko88 »

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I`ve just sat down and read all the way through this thread, and for the life if me I cannot understand exactly what all the bitterness, animosity and ill humour being displayed to the Prossies is in aid of and why it is bubbling to the top of the cauldron in such an antagonistic, and in some cases vicious way.

We all know, or firmly believe, that Prossies do not pay any, or as much, tax as they ought, but this is something that would apply to 90% of the population if they were in the right circumstances, or thought they could get away with it, and I doubt that all the contributors to this thread are completely innocent of it, or of wishing they could manage it. If it`s something you would be prepared to do (if you were brave enough or had the chance) then don`t moan about anybody else because they ARE brave enough and take the chance

However, the practice has the drawback that the accumulation of wealth by tax evasion is now becoming virtually impossible with the restrictions against money laundering, and the difficulties of hiding accumulated wealth and sources of income from the attentions of the tax inspector, and any speculator who is successful in managing to avoid these attentions is probably only having a temporary success.

But what has the question of how many blow jobs, massages, fucks or wanks it takes to amount to a prossie`s living wage to do with us punters anyway?

We have the same alternatives in punting as in any other aspect of our lives of what we choose to buy and how much we will pay for it. If I hire a decorator to paint my ceilings I don`t expect to tell him how many ceilings he ought to paint  to pay for his holidays, or, indeed, where he should go for them, nor would there be any point in my telling my car service department that x number of their services would buy me a new car, however much I should think so - their reply would no doubt be offensive, and end in "off".

Like everything else in life, if you want it enough you pay for it, and how much you have to pay depends on how many other people want it as well and how great a supply there is, and if you think it is too expensive, then don`t buy it, and if enough people agree with you and follow your example then either the price will come down or the product will simply be withdrawn from the market  - then you WOULD all start to moan.

Practically all punters are doing something which they don`t want their relatives and friends to find out about, so we have no right whatever to expect the prossies to have any higher moral standards.

WE HAVE TO LIVE AND LET LIVE!


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+1 also. So well put, I wish I could write so succinctly  :thumbsup:

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Interesting review and more interesting comments.

I can't see a way of doing that right now.

I wasn't aware that anything I had posted could be interpreted as 'boasting about experiences'.

If you don't think you can do a review then fair enough. What I try to do when doing reviews is include information that I think would be useful to me if I were the reader.

I don't know why you're quoting your last comment to me. I responded to your post regarding why an escort would have another job. Like I said the speculation about why an escort is an escort, how much they earn, whether they have other jobs or not make me laugh.

Find one that's within your budget, offers the services required, turn up, have your fun and both of you can get on with your lives.

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 Happylad's posted while I was busy.   :hi:
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I wasn't.

Clumsy of me.

Sorry.

It was a quote of another moderators comment to me upthread, for which he apologised, I think. I was just surprised that my posting history could have been perceived that way.

It certainly wasn't my intention.

And I agree, people should do as they choose, provided that isn't detrimental to others it's nobody else's business.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2019, 03:05:24 pm by wonko88 »

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I`ve just sat down and read all the way through this thread, and for the life if me I cannot understand exactly what all the bitterness, animosity and ill humour being displayed to the Prossies is in aid of and why it is bubbling to the top of the cauldron in such an antagonistic, and in some cases vicious way.

We all know, or firmly believe, that Prossies do not pay any, or as much, tax as they ought, but this is something that would apply to 90% of the population if they were in the right circumstances, or thought they could get away with it, and I doubt that all the contributors to this thread are completely innocent of it, or of wishing they could manage it. If it`s something you would be prepared to do (if you were brave enough or had the chance) then don`t moan about anybody else because they ARE brave enough and take the chance

However, the practice has the drawback that the accumulation of wealth by tax evasion is now becoming virtually impossible with the restrictions against money laundering, and the difficulties of hiding accumulated wealth and sources of income from the attentions of the tax inspector, and any speculator who is successful in managing to avoid these attentions is probably only having a temporary success.

But what has the question of how many blow jobs, massages, fucks or wanks it takes to amount to a prossie`s living wage to do with us punters anyway?

We have the same alternatives in punting as in any other aspect of our lives of what we choose to buy and how much we will pay for it. If I hire a decorator to paint my ceilings I don`t expect to tell him how many ceilings he ought to paint  to pay for his holidays, or, indeed, where he should go for them, nor would there be any point in my telling my car service department that x number of their services would buy me a new car, however much I should think so - their reply would no doubt be offensive, and end in "off".

Like everything else in life, if you want it enough you pay for it, and how much you have to pay depends on how many other people want it as well and how great a supply there is, and if you think it is too expensive, then don`t buy it, and if enough people agree with you and follow your example then either the price will come down or the product will simply be withdrawn from the market  - then you WOULD all start to moan.

Practically all punters are doing something which they don`t want their relatives and friends to find out about, so we have no right whatever to expect the prossies to have any higher moral standards.

WE HAVE TO LIVE AND LET LIVE!

Well said... I couldn't agree more.  Articulate and very well put.   :thumbsup:

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Well said... I couldn't agree more.  Articulate and very well put.   :thumbsup:

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If anyone here has ever made money from a source that's not exactly kosher, you'll know exactly what 'easy come easy go' means.

Dig a ditch for 8 hours and make £100 and you'll be very careful with the cash. Do something else for £100 cash that's a bit less strenuous, and a bit more shifty, and you'll likely piss it all up the wall.

Just the way it is.

Also, having read this thread, i cant work out why the TailSeeker bird doesn't just have her AW name (red whatever) on her profile. 3 positives and 1 negative is pretty good, especially when the negative is because she didn't want to bang an older geezer. Hardly the crime of the century.

Not having her AW name makes her look shifty....for no reason.

Very odd.
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“Dig a ditch for 8 hours and make £100 and you'll be very careful with the cash. Do something else for £100 cash that's a bit less strenuous, and a bit more shifty, and you'll likely piss it all up the wall.“

The above quote and Happylad’s erudite post does it for me.
One of the more reasoned thread we’ve had in a long time.
Thank you all!
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If anyone here has ever made money from a source that's not exactly kosher, you'll know exactly what 'easy come easy go' means.

Dig a ditch for 8 hours and make £100 and you'll be very careful with the cash. Do something else for £100 cash that's a bit less strenuous, and a bit more shifty, and you'll likely piss it all up the wall.

Just the way it is.

Also, having read this thread, i cant work out why the TailSeeker bird doesn't just have her AW name (red whatever) on her profile. 3 positives and 1 negative is pretty good, especially when the negative is because she didn't want to bang an older geezer. Hardly the crime of the century.

Not having her AW name makes her look shifty....for no reason.

Very odd.

i dont think any sp on here use their AW name  but if you pm them you might get the imformation  :cool:
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Of course I am , the average 2 bed flat price here is £350k how would I afford to buy on a declared income of £24k?

It all depends on how you launder the money I guess. I don't think prostitutes can pay tax on prostitution as the law would see it as an immoral income and probably not allow it. Therefore, like many other prostitutes, you would need to have another business to run the money through and pay taxes that way. But that would be quite tricky and require lots of skill and patience's which you probably lack, so I guess you probably don't pay tax at all.  :D

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It all depends on how you launder the money I guess. I don't think prostitutes can pay tax on prostitution as the law would see it as an immoral income and probably not allow it. Therefore, like many other prostitutes, you would need to have another business to run the money through and pay taxes that way. But that would be quite tricky and require lots of skill and patience's which you probably lack, so I guess you probably don't pay tax at all.  :D

ANOTHER clueless twat.
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i dont think any sp on here use their AW name  but if you pm them you might get the imformation  :cool:

er i do !
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i dont think any sp on here use their AW name  but if you pm them you might get the imformation  :cool:

Thought it was a Forum rule that they had to. Afaik, all bar one complies.

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Thought it was a Forum rule that they had to. Afaik, all bar one complies.

To be honest, they should not use AW names especially if it says that in the forum rules which I haven't checked. I guess one of the main reasons for using their AW names on this forum would be for touting, which again should be prohibited and controlled as much as possible.

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To be honest, they should not use AW names especially if it says that in the forum rules which I haven't checked. I guess one of the main reasons for using their AW names on this forum would be for touting, which again should be prohibited and controlled as much as possible.

- Service providers

* Service providers are allowed to be members, but there is no tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters.
* The site is not a chat platform between punters and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers.
* All service providers must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.
* Service providers are recommended to join External Link/Members Only instead if they wish to advertise freely and / or chat with punters.

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- Service providers

* Service providers are allowed to be members, but there is no tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters.
* The site is not a chat platform between punters and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers.
* All service providers must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.
* Service providers are recommended to join External Link/Members Only instead if they wish to advertise freely and / or chat with punters.

Thanks for the clarification.  :hi:

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It all depends on how you launder the money I guess. I don't think prostitutes can pay tax on prostitution as the law would see it as an immoral income and probably not allow it. Therefore, like many other prostitutes, you would need to have another business to run the money through and pay taxes that way. But that would be quite tricky and require lots of skill and patience's which you probably lack, so I guess you probably don't pay tax at all.  :D

A lot of long term SP do pay tax as self employed, an old regular of mine was for tax reasons a self employed masseur. She claimed everything every other self employed person does. Each punter was noted by her as a client getting a massage and put on her books. She retired to the South of France with her legal nest egg.


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The rule says service providers must reveal their working identities. Presumably informing Admin. of their working identity is sufficient.

The rule doesn't say they can or can't, must or mustn't use their AW name as a forum username.

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A lot of long term SP do pay tax as self employed, an old regular of mine was for tax reasons a self employed masseur. She claimed everything every other self employed person does. Each punter was noted by her as a client getting a massage and put on her books. She retired to the South of France with her legal nest egg.

Maybe the person you're referring to did declare everything but it would be very easy to appear above board while:

- declaring less than the actual number of massages
- declaring less than the true price of each massage
- not declaring any extras
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Maybe the person you're referring to did declare everything but it would be very easy to appear above board while:

- declaring less than the actual number of massages
- declaring less than the true price of each massage
- not declaring any extras

It's not just SP that can do that, tradesmen and taxi drivers to name just 2 others.
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Maybe the person you're referring to did declare everything but it would be very easy to appear above board while:

- declaring less than the actual number of massages
- declaring less than the true price of each massage
- not declaring any extras

And you could say exactly the same thing (and probably score a bull`s eye most times) of very many a self employed  tradesMAN - be he plumber painter carpenter, electrician or whatever, including probably a few of the members of this site.  So why do you apparently consider it relevant to accuse only prossies of it?.


Sorry David, you just beat me to it.
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So why do you apparently consider it relevant to accuse only prossies of it?

Firstly, I didn't accuse anyone of anything. I hypothesised how a masseuse might declare an income less than the reality while appearing above board.

Secondly, this is a thread about "Escort's strange life choices".  It's not a thread about paying tax in general.

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A lot of long term SP do pay tax as self employed, an old regular of mine was for tax reasons a self employed masseur. She claimed everything every other self employed person does. Each punter was noted by her as a client getting a massage and put on her books. She retired to the South of France with her legal nest egg.

 And that is the point that I was trying to make. That a prostitute  cannot put that down as a profession when they are completing tax forms and therefore have to put down another type of profession like Massuess
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And that is the point that I was trying to make. That a prostitute  cannot put that down as a profession when they are completing tax forms and therefore have to put down another type of profession like Massuess

Can you explain why an escort can't put 'prostitute' on her tax returns.   :unknown:

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THere is zero reason you cant put escort i put therapist purely as i didnt want to be looked down upon when i got my morgage.
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THere is zero reason you cant put escort i put therapist purely as i didnt want to be looked down upon when i got my morgage.

I know this, I was just wondering what made Hobbit think you couldn't.   :unknown:

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Can you explain why an escort can't put 'prostitute' on her tax returns.   :unknown:

I could be wrong but as far as I know they can’t put it down because the law doesn’t allow it. Possibly because it’s seen as immoral earnings.

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I could be wrong but as far as I know they can’t put it down because the law doesn’t allow it. Possibly because it’s seen as immoral earnings.

Why wouldn't HMRC want to tax immoral earnings?

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All I know is the SP who was self employed told her accountant she was a SP, but he put her work down as a masseur.
It may be he didn't want a SP showing up on his books on?

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THere is zero reason you cant put escort i put therapist purely as i didnt want to be looked down upon when i got my morgage.

Really?  surely if you are accepting what you do then what do you care what people think?

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I could be wrong but as far as I know they can’t put it down because the law doesn’t allow it. Possibly because it’s seen as immoral earnings.

It's a legal activity, i can't see any legal/ tax  reason why somebody couldn't put it on tax return.

Probably seldom done for two reasons:-
1/ WG not wanting her job being widely known...we all know how censorious most people are.
2/ Tax man might expect better earnings for a WG than most professions, suspect many of takings would be in cash...and look at return particularly carefully.
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Really?  surely if you are accepting what you do then what do you care what people think?

er because i do care , i didnt want the bank man knowing . simple as that , as i mentioned .
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Why wouldn't HMRC want to tax immoral earnings?


I don’t know ask HMRC

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I could be wrong but as far as I know they can’t put it down because the law doesn’t allow it. Possibly because it’s seen as immoral earnings.

I'll rephrase the question then, what is illegal about prostitution in this country??    :unknown:   If it's legal it can be legally declared and tax can be paid on it.

I would recommend anyone partaking in this hobby to familiarise themselves with the legalities of it.    :hi:

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I'll rephrase the question then, what is illegal about prostitution in this country??    :unknown:   If it's legal it can be legally declared and tax can be paid on it.

I would recommend anyone partaking in this hobby to familiarise themselves with the legalities of it.    :hi:

It is legal. Certain practices often associated with it (e.g. pimping and brothels) aren't.
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er because i do care , i didnt want the bank man knowing . simple as that , as i mentioned .

But why? It’s not like he’s going to ask for a blowjob.

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But why? It’s not like he’s going to ask for a blowjob.

for my own sanity , jeez whats the issue dude. woudl you put cock sucker on your cv to the bank?
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