Author Topic: "Nina" Chinese, Croydon (Read 5017 times)

jrtherealjr · « **on:** March 27, 2019, 12:24:56 am »

FIRST REVIEW. SORRY IT TOOK ME SO LONG.

Paid: £60 for 30 minutes
Contact: 07366181893
Girl: 23 years old, approx. 5'5", slim, medium breasts

Chinese parlour in a modern apartment block just by Q-Park, Central Croydon. They have a different girl every week. There is always just one girl working here, so if she is busy then you can wait in the small living room just opposite the main bedroom.

As usual, a Chinese man opens the communal outside door and then lets you into the flat. Nina was waiting in the bedroom wearing black panties and a black bra. After paying her the £60, I went to the bathroom. I could hear her singing to herself in Chinese in the bedroom next door. I returned to the bedroom and like all the other girls here, she quickly started to take her underwear off. She speaks very little English, but I made her understand to slow down a little as I wanted to watch her get undressed.

She took her bra off first- one of those ones with a big wide back strap with 3 or 4 hooks. Very nice medium-size breasts and very firm to the touch. Her body is very good- slim with a tattoo on her left shoulder and another one on her lower back on the right side- this one is a single line of Oriental writing. Her face is just average. I asked her age and she help 2 fingers up first, then 3. I would say that she is genuinely 23.

As she was putting the condom on for oral, she started singing in Chinese again. Oral was OK, then I asked her for another condom as I like to double up for sex. She said "fuck"? and got on top. She worked hard in this position and then I got her to lean forward so I could take over the pounding. Then I asked her to turn round into reverse cowgirl. After a while I went on top. It was here that I noticed a couple of small blood spots on the bedsheet (later I noticed a slight red-tinged condom after I came) so she was probably on her period.

Time was soon up so I lay on my back and finished myself off. I asked her to look me closer in the face and it was here that I noticed her teeth were quite discoloured.

She acted like she enjoyed the sex- she was energetic on top, and in missionary she was making loud moans. So a Positive because of her great body, young age and happy nature.

tomcat69 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2019, 05:08:54 pm »

A quick google of the number shows adverts another place with chinese girls claiming to be Japanese. Whats wrong with being Chinese anyyways?

markfin · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2019, 06:51:15 pm »

The Advertiser 'Kiki' has Ads on VivaStreet for 7 different locations including Croydon, Sutton, Wimbledon and Putney!

Obviously a thriving business in Bait and Switch Japanese/Chinese girls who barely speak a word of English!

escariotpaul · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2019, 05:10:57 am »

Quote from: tomcat69 on March 27, 2019, 05:08:54 pm

A quick google of the number shows adverts another place with chinese girls claiming to be Japanese. Whats wrong with being Chinese anyyways?

Absolutely nothing wrong with Chinese. It's just genuine Japanese SP's are rarer than rocking horse shit. It's simple dodgy marketing. (Isn't all marketing dodgy?)

quickyfart · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2019, 09:45:52 pm »

Dude... You don't meant to double up on condoms 😂

scutty brown · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2019, 11:39:29 pm »

that phone number links to two profile groups
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only

I'm going to sound like a stuck record now, but these kinds of profile groups with rapidly rotating young girls and a Chinese doorman are almost guaranteed signs that the girls are being trafficked.
There really is enough in the OP's review to justify calling the police on this one

JayEZ2K · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2019, 05:43:18 am »

Quote from: scutty brown on March 28, 2019, 11:39:29 pm

that phone number links to two profile groups
External Link/Members Only
External Link/Members Only

I'm going to sound like a stuck record now, but these kinds of profile groups with rapidly rotating young girls and a Chinese doorman are almost guaranteed signs that the girls are being trafficked.
There really is enough in the OP's review to justify calling the police on this one

Scutty, you really are sounding like a stuck record now. Trafficking is defined as "the trade of humans for the purpose of forced labour, sexual slavery, or commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker or others.

Although I haven't been to this location, neither have you (from the sounds of it). And yet you are making a huge generalization, not only for this location, but all locations like it.

I have been to several of these types of places, and I have never seen any signs of forced labour or sexual slavery. Yet I have seen signs of trafficking at a Romanian location, which resulted in me I quitting my booking and contacting the authorities. So I am not oblivious to the possibility of it.

But in regards to these types of Chinese B&S places, not only have I not seen any signs of forced labour or sexual slavery, I have seen the complete opposite. I now have the personal contacts of several different girls, who I have been speaking privately with. I've made a special effort to check on their situations, and I've found that they are safe and well taken care of, happily making good money which they'll use to make a positive improvement to their lives. (Their plans are wholesome and sound, and would be the envy of most young adults in our own country.) I also know their work schedules, and I know that they take a good amount of time off to travel and see the sights around London and England, and I have pictures of them out and having fun.

So could you please refrain from making generalized statements about these places?

For those of you who are new to the site, trafficking is an obsession for Scutty.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?msg=2389326
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?msg=1505420
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?msg=1878284
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=130435.msg1499165#msg1499165
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=130435.msg1499247#msg1499247
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?msg=1594350

JayEZ2K · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2019, 06:36:41 am »

Quote from: scutty brown on March 28, 2019, 11:39:29 pm

I'm going to sound like a stuck record now, but these kinds of profile groups with rapidly rotating young girls and a Chinese doorman are almost guaranteed signs that the girls are being trafficked.
There really is enough in the OP's review to justify calling the police on this one

Actually, I was wrong. I know exactly who this is, and can tell you for a fact that she is NOT coerced into "forced labour" or "sexual slavery". I've had private discussions with her, I know where she is from, I know that she is working of her own free will, and I know that she will use the money she is earning to make a significant, positive improvement to her life when she returns home.

I took the time to find out these details specifically because of you constantly making claims about this, so Scutty, no disrespect but please just shut up already. You do not have some expert insight, and you are not a White Knight out to help a damsel in distress. Not these ones anyways.

If necessary I will send screenshots of my private conversations with this girl to Admin and/or a Mod, but only if you will forever shut the fuck up about your claims of trafficking/forced labour/sexual slavery.

scutty brown · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2019, 08:14:55 am »

Quote from: JayEZ2K on April 01, 2019, 06:36:41 am

Actually, I was wrong. I know exactly who this is, and can tell you for a fact that she is NOT coerced into "forced labour" or "sexual slavery". I've had private discussions with her, I know where she is from, I know that she is working of her own free will, and I know that she will use the money she is earning to make a significant, positive improvement to her life when she returns home.

I took the time to find out these details specifically because of you constantly making claims about this, so Scutty, no disrespect but please just shut up already. You do not have some expert insight, and you are not a White Knight out to help a damsel in distress. Not these ones anyways.

If necessary I will send screenshots of my private conversations with this girl to Admin and/or a Mod, but only if you will forever shut the fuck up about your claims of trafficking/forced labour/sexual slavery.

Interesting pair of post which say more about your ostrich mentality than anything else.

1) These girls are working here illegally: the UK doesn't issue visas for whoring. That makes them open to exploitation.
2) As stated by the OP, the girls change on a weekly basis - that means someone is organising their movement, which equates to trafficking.
3) Its been stated that there is a male pimp in residence
4) Its been established that they are using fake profiles
All the above give cause for concern, but you also have to take into account that Chinese women tend to disclose that they are trafficking victims only very late in procedures - if at all. See External Link/Members Only
Last year in the UK there were 271 Chinese trafficking victims identified in the UK. Not all for sexual exploitation, but a large number were.

You say you know these women - that doesn't quite gel with the fact that they are rotated weekly.
I find your comment that they willingly give you, a "filthy white barbarian" (in their eyes) their personal phone numbers laughable.
My experience is this happens in only two circumstances:
they see you as an escape route and need help
or they are setting you up for a scam

scutty brown · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2019, 09:22:45 pm »

Quote from: scutty brown on April 01, 2019, 08:14:55 am

Interesting pair of post which say more about your ostrich mentality than anything else.

1) These girls are working here illegally: the UK doesn't issue visas for whoring. That makes them open to exploitation.
2) As stated by the OP, the girls change on a weekly basis - that means someone is organising their movement, which equates to trafficking.
3) Its been stated that there is a male pimp in residence
4) Its been established that they are using fake profiles
All the above give cause for concern, but you also have to take into account that Chinese women tend to disclose that they are trafficking victims only very late in procedures - if at all. See External Link/Members Only
Last year in the UK there were 271 Chinese trafficking victims identified in the UK. Not all for sexual exploitation, but a large number were.

You say you know these women - that doesn't quite gel with the fact that they are rotated weekly.
I find your comment that they willingly give you, a "filthy white barbarian" (in their eyes) their personal phone numbers laughable.
My experience is this happens in only two circumstances:
they see you as an escape route and need help
or they are setting you up for a scam

Just need to correct something there - the 271 Chinese were for 2017, not 2018. Figures for 2018 don't seem to have been published yet but are likely to be higher. Of the 271, 149 were women.
see External Link/Members Only
Of foreign victims in the UK, only Albania (probably as fake Romanians -487 women, 79 men) and Vietnam (probably a mix of nailbars and cannabis farms, 112 women, 264 men) had a higher incidence

JayEZ2K · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2019, 11:28:21 am »

Quote from: scutty brown on April 01, 2019, 08:14:55 am

Interesting pair of post which say more about your ostrich mentality than anything else...

You are blatantly wrong, Scutty.

You constantly make generalizations with your claims of expert knowledge regarding trafficking/forced sex work/slavery, and I caught you out 100% this time, and rather than admitting you were wrong, you are just doubling down, and digging yourself in. You have zero evidence to support your claims. I have evidence to support my claims. I went out of my way to get this information specifically because of your constant talk on this subject, and now you simply ignore contrary evidence (with your ostrich mentality) and continue with your insider fantasies. If I had seen any signs of forced labour/sexual slavery I would have reported it, as I have in the past.

I know who this is, and can tell you for a fact that she is NOT coerced into "forced labour" or "sexual slavery". I know from which town she is from, I know that she is working of her own free will, and I know that she is earning good money which she will use to make a significant, positive improvement to her life when she returns home.

And this is not a rare instance, I have seen this several times already. It really should not be that difficult to conceive that someone would willingly do this type of work and make significant money... They're making more money than most of us, and when you factor in the exchange rate, it's quite lucrative.

You are not helping any "damsels in distress" with your incorrect allegations of forced labour/sexual slavery, but you are bringing negative attention to punting and helping those who are against it. So could you please refrain from making generalized statements about these places?

scutty brown · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2019, 08:32:26 pm »

JayEZ2K · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2019, 11:18:03 pm »

Quote from: scutty brown on April 02, 2019, 08:32:26 pm

So you know exactly who she is do you?
Lets go through all the Vivastreet profiles linked to that group and see where they came from.........every single one of those profiles is using stolen photos
I've matched each profile to a reverse image search
So which one is the one you know??????????

Lol, you're grasping at straws here. Everyone knows the advertised photos are almost always a some high quality model's photo to draw in customers. Just the same as most VS ads, regardless of nationality. As for the actual girl, I have her contact info, social media, and real photos and videos that she sent to me in private chats. I've seen her in person, so obviously I know it's her.

Quote from: scutty brown on April 01, 2019, 08:14:55 am

You say you know these women - that doesn't quite gel with the fact that they are rotated weekly.

That makes zero sense. You're still operating under the misguided assumption that they are being shuttled around without the ability to communicate with the outside world, which is incorrect. They can call, chat, and meet up with anyone they want. Changing locations doesn't change that.

Quote from: scutty brown on April 01, 2019, 08:14:55 am

I find your comment that they willingly give you, a "filthy white barbarian" (in their eyes) their personal phone numbers laughable.

Another pointless opinion, grasping at straws. It does however make it obvious that they're not interested in giving you their personal phone numbers or contact info, and explains why you're really an outsider speculating on all of this.

You used to paint such a bleak and dark picture about working conditions with girls locked away by Chinese gangs, with no escape or ability to communicate with the outside world, but it's absolutely not the case here, and it's not the case with the vast majority of places I've been to. And this is with me specifically taking the issue seriously and taking the time to investigate myself.

There are people out there who need help, but at this point I really can't take you seriously if you can't discriminate between cases where women are willingly working, earning good money, able to communicate freely with the outside world at any time, getting adequate time off, returning home without overstaying their visas, and working to improving their lives.

In any case, if I see any possibility of exploitation, I will report it to the authorities just as I have before.

Author Topic: "Nina" Chinese, Croydon (Read 5017 times)

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