I was just in Kiev and I bumped into Tinder-marketing there...
Which worked like this:
- Once I got the "match" with some young and extrordinarily pretty girl, she approached me quite soon by "Hi, how you're doing, are you in Kiev?"-type of line.
- Once I responded, she asked right away my number to move to the Whatsapp ("because it's easier that way").
- When "she" had gotten my number, the match was deleted right away on Tinder and soon after I already got a message on Whatsapp from VIP Escort service. Message was polite and they respectully asked if I'm interested in such a service. I said yes, just to see how they operate. I asked for the rates first.
- I got a list of a 5 different categories: 1300 krivnas (35-40yrs), 1500 (29-35yrs), 2500 (20-23yrs) and 3000-4000 Vip model. Taxi was 200 krivnas extra (they provided only outcalls). All prices were for one hour.
- I asked then for the photos and I got around 30 different photos of stunningly beautiful girls, all from their VIP category. Only one's face was visible. They all looked the same to me, model types with no personality.
- I finally asked if they provide incall, but since the answer was no, i ended the interaction because I only do incalls since I never stay in the hotels or apartments anyway. And even if I did, I'd not like to ask any girl to my place for several reasons. They discreetly left me alone after that.
However 3000-4000 krivnas for me is way too expensive and I don't care how pretty girl it is. It's around 120-160 euros/hour (plus taxi, nearly 10 eur more) and I'll never pay that amount of money for any pussy.
Most I've ever paid was 130 eur/hour in Prague on my earlier days of punting, but she was the prettiest and hottest woman I've ever had sex with and you can't top that, ever. And I knew exactly what I was getting since I carefully selected her. With those photos I got from this Kiev agency, it's impossible to tell what kind of girl is coming at your door 'cos you don't see faces. Which is always the most important part of the girl for me personally.
Since that I've had sex with stunningly beautiful girls in so many places (GB clubs, swinger clubs etc.) where it has been either free or included in all day offers so average price for top quality pussy has been in between 1 and 10 euros for me and I'd like to keep it that way.
But i guess this is one way of trying out punting in Kiev, seemed legit enough for me. Ukraine and Kiev to me don't seem very good places for punting which is sad 'cos the girls there are one of the prettiest you can find anywhere in the world. Good news is that it's ridiculously easy to get civilian girls in Ukraine 'cos they all seem to be super friendly and easy to talk to. Some don't speak so good english but it has never mattered to me 'cos I can tone down my speaking to the "me Tarzan, you Jane"-level and it's all good.
It's easy to make friends with local dudes as well and since they can usually speak much better english than girls, they can be very valuable when you need to sort out some language issues with local girls (especially from Russian background who have usually very low English skills). I always keep around at least one local dude with me and they've never been nothing but a great help for me since they are extremely non-jealous of their girls. Actually in many cases it's been the local dudes who have introduced some great local girl to me!
During this last trip I made new girl"friends" almost on a daily basis and in most cases I wasn't even doing anything for that. The first contact happened in places like trains, bus stops, beer bars (I don't go to the clubs) and even on the streets. And in many cases it was the girl who approached first. Some of them VERY young, on the edge of it being illegal. So in few cases I just had the ask for a age just to make sure. In Ukraine it is just an advantage if man is at least 10 years older than girl. Even 20-30 years age gap is absolutely no problem. Although it depends on a case, i.e. how old the guy ACTUALLY looks. I look 10-15 years younger than i really am, so that affects my personal experiences a lot. Girls there don't seem to be so much into guys their own age.
If you're into street game, I'd say the best way to get results in Ukraine is to dress up smart casual (jeans. leather jacket, t-shirt etc.) and not over-dress (no suits, ties etc., cool blazer with jeans will do) and be friendly, not cocky and maybe the most important thing: be interested in local culture, that is the thing Ukrainians respect more than probably any other nation I've ever been to. Ukrainians are extremely patriotic. But in a positive way, they don't mind having a foreign boyfriend
And they like to talk a lot about their nation and culture so that is a very good conversation starter. And it will probably get you far
The war between Russia and Ukraine is obviously a hot topic so I suggest you to stay away from that as far as possible and keep the convo in more positive issues like history and language.
Amazing place! Don't believe anyone who says that Ukraine has gone downhill. That's total bullshit! If anything, it has only gotten better during all these 10 years I've visited the country frequently. Best town by far there is Kharkiv, so if it's only one city in Ukraine you're going to visit, go straight there.
And did I already mention that it's cheap as chips there! Enjoy Ukraine!
