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Offline last_days_of_logan

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What makes me laugh though is nobody blinks an eye when anti-white racial slurs are used.

that is also a myth too if you are talking about the general population....but within each marginalised group and / or race yes in most cases i am familiar with they wouldnt be as outraged if racial slurs were thrown at a different group / race etc

so for instance if black person yelled out racial slurs against a white person in the middle of the street...he will get done and people will not appreciate it. If he does that within a group of black people ...some will give him a side eye...others would ignore .. and some would just not care...very few would speak out against him

same goes for every race though from my experience

if you are talking about group slurs that go unnoticed then gays talking about staight men and women bashing  men should be right up there  :D

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An interesting one is x-amber-x

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Amazing escort, nice friendly etc. Ive met her about 10 - 15 times over the last 18 months or so (im black btw) but shes recently changed her profile to no black men.

I would enquire but shes not been in manchester much lately so not had an opp to book. But it would be interesting to know why shes changed her preferences. And does this mean no black men full stop, bearing in mind shes had my cock in her mouth multiple times without complaint? Or no new black men etc

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An interesting one is x-amber-x

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Amazing escort, nice friendly etc. Ive met her about 10 - 15 times over the last 18 months or so (im black btw) but shes recently changed her profile to no black men.

I would enquire but shes not been in manchester much lately so not had an opp to book. But it would be interesting to know why shes changed her preferences. And does this mean no black men full stop, bearing in mind shes had my cock in her mouth multiple times without complaint? Or no new black men etc

why not just ask her and feed back?

but this is interesting... hers is clearly not racism but a motivation by something else
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An interesting one is x-amber-x

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Amazing escort, nice friendly etc. Ive met her about 10 - 15 times over the last 18 months or so (im black btw) but shes recently changed her profile to no black men.

I would enquire but shes not been in manchester much lately so not had an opp to book. But it would be interesting to know why shes changed her preferences. And does this mean no black men full stop, bearing in mind shes had my cock in her mouth multiple times without complaint? Or no new black men etc

Some get a new black boyfriend who is terrified his friend/family may turn up, hence no blacks/mixed. But the middle eastern part thrown in probably disproves my theory in this specific instance.

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Some get a new black boyfriend who is terrified his friend/family may turn up, hence no blacks/mixed. But the middle eastern part thrown in probably disproves my theory in this specific instance.
She advertised as being part Arabic from what I can tell. So probably scared of a family member turning up.

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that is also a myth too if you are talking about the general population....but within each marginalised group and / or race yes in most cases i am familiar with they wouldnt be as outraged if racial slurs were thrown at a different group / race etc

so for instance if black person yelled out racial slurs against a white person in the middle of the street...he will get done and people will not appreciate it. If he does that within a group of black people ...some will give him a side eye...others would ignore .. and some would just not care...very few would speak out against him

same goes for every race though from my experience

if you are talking about group slurs that go unnoticed then gays talking about staight men and women bashing  men should be right up there  :D

I think a big question is, what are the white slurs? The main one I can think of is cracker. Which was a reference to the cracking of a whip, and at the time white people embraced it. Most of the time its just white (x). Replace x with a word of your choice.

For gays to straights, women to men, what slurs are used that aren't used by the same group apparently being by the other group. Breeder? Massive term used in the child free straight community. I can't think of an insult I've ever thrown at a man that another man hasn't used on other men. But I'm certainly open to hearing some new suggestions.  :lol:

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She advertised as being part Arabic from what I can tell. So probably scared of a family member turning up.


...and quite possibly the stoning to death which might ensue.

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I think a big question is, what are the white slurs? The main one I can think of is cracker. Which was a reference to the cracking of a whip, and at the time white people embraced it. Most of the time its just white (x). Replace x with a word of your choice.

For gays to straights, women to men, what slurs are used that aren't used by the same group apparently being by the other group. Breeder? Massive term used in the child free straight community. I can't think of an insult I've ever thrown at a man that another man hasn't used on other men. But I'm certainly open to hearing some new suggestions.  :lol:
They're mainly USA terms like honky and white trash. With gay people the terms of affection like tart and queen (particularly 90s term dizzy queen that seems to have died out) aren't used in the same way by straight men.

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How about you don't take things personally and grow a thicker skin? Unless it applies to you there's no reason to get your panties in a twist. If it doesn't apply to you, you have no reason to complain.

Personally, I don't think that WGs should be able to PM punters no matter how much they post unless they're PM'd first. But evidently admin is of a different mind at the moment. So I'll go with that, but personally won't utilise it.
From your response it would seem you're the one with her panties in a twist.
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How about you don't take things personally and grow a thicker skin? Unless it applies to you there's no reason to get your panties in a twist. If it doesn't apply to you, you have no reason to complain.

From your response it would seem you're the one with her panties in a twist.
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How about you both spare us the prossie drama?

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Some get a new black boyfriend who is terrified his friend/family may turn up, hence no blacks/mixed.

I always assumed that, not all cases but maybe 50% at least

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From your response it would seem you're the one with her panties in a twist.
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Pot meet kettle. Grow up and learn to admit when you're wrong. Want to continue, PM me. Otherwise zip your lips unless you've got to fit a dick between them.

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Pot meet kettle. Grow up and learn to admit when you're wrong. Want to continue, PM me. Otherwise zip your lips unless you've got to fit a dick between them.
Ladies please. Get together and be scissor sisters.

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They're mainly USA terms like honky and white trash. With gay people the terms of affection like tart and queen (particularly 90s term dizzy queen that seems to have died out) aren't used in the same way by straight men.

I know those, I was mostly asking Logan slurs used by gays against straight, and women against men, that aren't used by the same groups.

I honestly don't know any terms used in the UK, I know religious terms (blue noser for protestants), but it may be because we tended to be accepting on the main land and then pushed our ideas off on the colonies. I'm not sure. Probably someone who is better versed in social studies can explain the terms we use and why.

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Ladies please. Get together and be scissor sisters.

I promise I will zip my lips from this point on the forum with regards to her. But as a former lezzie, I won't go for scissoring. It has little to no pleasure. Just a lot of awkwardness. I'd much rather go diving.

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I think a big question is, what are the white slurs? The main one I can think of is cracker. Which was a reference to the cracking of a whip,...

The Secret History Of The Word 'Cracker'

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Pot meet kettle. Grow up and learn to admit when you're wrong. Want to continue, PM me. Otherwise zip your lips unless you've got to fit a dick between them.

“Pot meet kettle”

Is that the politically correct way of saying it now?

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Interesting. Googling had shown it up as being a white on white slur (different from what I was told)

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"Ste. Clair says white American northerners began using “cracker” as a term for poorer white Southerners during the late 1800s. But while some people took it to mean a white person working as a whip cracker over slaves, Ste. Clair says that few poor white Southerners owned slaves (though many were complicit with the slave trade in other ways). She adds that cracker might’ve referred to poor, working class white people who cracked whips over livestock in general.

Ste. Claire says “cracker” became a term for bigoted white people in 1940. It was used predominantly amongst inner city black people, many who had fled the south for less racist climes up north."

So it does seem to be an original white on white slur (as a classist slur). Which I did not know before now. I honestly though it referred to the whip by what my friends had told me. But it's not racist. Just radicalised by some.

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Interesting. Googling had shown it up as being a white on white slur (different from what I was told)

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To quote

"Ste. Clair says white American northerners began using “cracker” as a term for poorer white Southerners during the late 1800s. But while some people took it to mean a white person working as a whip cracker over slaves, Ste. Clair says that few poor white Southerners owned slaves (though many were complicit with the slave trade in other ways). She adds that cracker might’ve referred to poor, working class white people who cracked whips over livestock in general.

Ste. Claire says “cracker” became a term for bigoted white people in 1940. It was used predominantly amongst inner city black people, many who had fled the south for less racist climes up north."

So it does seem to be an original white on white slur (as a classist slur). Which I did not know before now. I honestly though it referred to the whip by what my friends had told me. But it's not racist. Just radicalised by some.

And if one wishes to take it that bit further...

It was not a White on White slur per se because in US. there was a time when the Irish those of Celtic origins were not viewed as 'Whites'. I do not know enough on the subject and how this might conflate the term as a racial slur.

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Pot meet kettle. Grow up and learn to admit when you're wrong. Want to continue, PM me. Otherwise zip your lips unless you've got to fit a dick between them.
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This has really got to you, hasn't it? I only pointed out you made an assumption and this is your reaction? Reading this actually made me laugh though, so well done.
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I know it's a forum for punters but unfortunately for you, I am still allowed to comment so I shall not be taking your orders and zipping anything. I wasn't rude to you, but you saw it fit to be rude to me just because I disagreed and questioned you.

As we're giving out orders though, you have my express permission to continue being rude to me in your attempt to fit in with the men here.
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This has really got to you, hasn't it? I only pointed out you made an assumption and this is your reaction? Reading this actually made me laugh though, so well done.
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I know it's a forum for punters but unfortunately for you, I am still allowed to comment so I shall not be taking your orders and zipping anything. I wasn't rude to you, but you saw it fit to be rude to me just because I disagreed and questioned you.

As we're giving out orders though, you have my express permission to continue being rude to me in your attempt to fit in with the men here.
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I think you both live in London, maybe meet up for a bubble tea and then take it out on each other with a prolonged session of finger banging.

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I think you both live in London, maybe meet up for a bubble tea and then take it out on each other with a prolonged session of finger banging.
I won't respond to her any longer (unless of course she is back with another rude comment).
In any case, I'm not really into women so that wouldn't happen anyway.

Sorry for the slight derailment. As you were...
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I won't respond to her any longer (unless of course she is back with another rude comment).
In any case, I'm not really into women so that wouldn't happen anyway.

Sorry for the slight derailment. As you were...
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Such a shame, I wanted to find out who is bitch and who is butch.

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And if one wishes to take it that bit further...

It was not a White on White slur per se because in US. there was a time when the Irish those of Celtic origins were not viewed as 'Whites'. I do not know enough on the subject and how this might conflate the term as a racial slur.

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I know about the Irish bit (black Irish), which is so bizarre. Might have been because of the close links with Britain and following the historically poor treatment of Irish by the English. As well as the religious aspect, pretty much all Catholics heading into a very protestant country.

Wonder if any of my relatives made the journey over... although doubt anyone still alive would remember an american branch.

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....I honestly don't know any terms used in the UK, I know religious terms (blue noser for protestants), but it may be because we tended to be accepting on the main land and then pushed our ideas off on the colonies. I'm not sure. Probably someone who is better versed in social studies can explain the terms we use and why.

In the religious context it was very common, probably universal, in 1950's Liverpool primary & junior schools to use the terms Proddie-Dogs and Cat-olics to describe pupils in opposing schools. ...and in those days small children really did fight the other side like cat and dog.

And geographically, many Liverpool people of my generation still use the term "woollybacks" to describe the dumb yokels who have the misfortune to inhabit the hinterlands of our region. And the name "Manc" (as in 'mank') has never gone out of fashion to describe a resident of that ugly conurbation near our own glorious city.

Surely it is likely that other regions have similar derogatory descriptors for their neighbours, near and far? Wouldn't "sassenach" qualify as a 'white on white' slur?
I suspect that is because todays smug MSM and the oh-so-liberal elite like to think of themselves as 'children of the world' and above identifying with 'petty' localisms - that such descriptors are ignored by them and largely go unreported.     

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In the religious context it was very common, probably universal, in 1950's Liverpool primary & junior schools to use the terms Proddie-Dogs and Cat-olics to describe pupils in opposing schools. ...and in those days small children really did fight the other side like cat and dog.

And geographically, many Liverpool people of my generation still use the term "woollybacks" to describe the dumb yokels who have the misfortune to inhabit the hinterlands of our region. And the name "Manc" (as in 'mank') has never gone out of fashion to describe a resident of that ugly conurbation near our own glorious city.

Surely it is likely that other regions have similar derogatory descriptors for their neighbours, near and far? Wouldn't "sassenach" qualify as a 'white on white' slur?
I suspect that is because todays smug MSM and the oh-so-liberal elite like to think of themselves as 'children of the world' and above identifying with 'petty' localisms - that such descriptors are ignored by them and largely go unreported.   

Those are almost cute really.

I never really heard many slurs for Catholics, guess because I'm Irish-Scots Catholic and we tend to self segregate, not so much in England, but down in the south I think class was a bigger thing when I was little.

Sassenach I definitely heard when staying with Scots relatives, but mostly just in the highlands and pretty much used on all English.

Blur nosers were more common, and that was the Scots term for protestants. I'm not sure exactly where it came from, but my family tell me it's mostly due to Rangers' strips.

I though Mancs was just a general shortening? I've always used it, I even heard people from Manchester refer to themselves by that. Self reclamation maybe?

The Oxford Cambridge battle never had nicknames from what I can remember, we just called one of our own a traitor if they went to the other. Although I do find it amusing that the dislike is still so strong there is not a straight route to go between the two.

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Such a shame, I wanted to find out who is bitch and who is butch.

Having spent many years in the lesbian scene I am confused here. Studs, butch, femmes, hyper femmes, lipsticks and chapsticks, even pillow queens, I know. But butch-bitch pairing? That's not a term I've heard thrown around in lesbian and bisexual circles.

Care to expand?

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Having spent many years in the lesbian scene I am confused here. Studs, butch, femmes, hyper femmes, lipsticks and chapsticks, even pillow queens, I know. But butch-bitch pairing? That's not a term I've heard thrown around in lesbian and bisexual circles.

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Bitch pretty much being the feminine bottom, if you like the submissive (lipstick) lesbian. Butch pretty much being the opposite. I just wanted to know who is in charge.  :D

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I know 'aegism' isnt exactly comparable to racism - but i do wish more profiles carried the warning "no OAP's." After the first knockback i start to resent the wgs for not being honest on their profile.


Tell porkies about your age, a fair % of WGs' do.

My "late 50s'" porky vs actual "early 60s'" has never been challenged.......Yet!

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Bitch pretty much being the feminine bottom, if you like the submissive (lipstick) lesbian. Butch pretty much being the opposite. I just wanted to know who is in charge.  :D

I can firmly attest that is not a set of terminology used in the lesbian or bisexual scene. At least not in any circles I've moved in. Studs and hyper femmes are the only ones with established dynamics. The rest vary, it just denotes how you choose to present. Suspect that set of terms will have come from men rather than the community itself. We just add sub/domme/vanilla.

And even then, topping from the bottom does occur regardless of presenting. Hence pillow princesses (only receive never give, they can even be butches).

Lesbians aren't so given to adding extra terms as gay men can be. (Honestly what the fuck is the difference between an otter and a wolf cub?! Both are a smaller younger version of a bear.).

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I can firmly attest that is not a set of terminology used in the lesbian or bisexual scene. At least not in any circles I've moved in. Studs and hyper femmes are the only ones with established dynamics. The rest vary, it just denotes how you choose to present. Suspect that set of terms will have come from men rather than the community itself. We just add sub/domme/vanilla.

And even then, topping from the bottom does occur regardless of presenting. Hence pillow princesses (only receive never give, they can even be butches).

Lesbians aren't so given to adding extra terms as gay men can be. (Honestly what the fuck is the difference between an otter and a wolf cub?! Both are a smaller younger version of a bear.).
I first heard it around the early 2000s. It wouldn't surprise me if it originated in America. Both are undoubtedly derogatory terms and no doubt it was probably born out of lad culture. The difference between and otter and a wolf cub - I would feel safer kissing an otter.

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I first heard it around the early 2000s. It wouldn't surprise me if it originated in America. Both are undoubtedly derogatory terms and no doubt it was probably born out of lad culture. The difference between and otter and a wolf cub - I would feel safer kissing an otter.

Ha! I suspect the faux lesbian terms did come out of lads culture, or faux lesbian porn. Never heard it myself.

Although I do love to pieces one lesbian term, lemon tart - straight guy who hangs out with lesbians. Much nicer than straight woman who hangs around gay men (fag hag).

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this is someone that doesnt see black guys but understands that this comes across all wrong and apologises for it, you can tell that its something she feels she has to mention and explain away (which she doesnt oddly enough) but i dont see her as being racist


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She says:     A. I don't see black men. I know that sounds awful. I'm not racist, I promise. It's personal. I mean no offense to anyone. I do see Asians.

Like any of these girls, you never really know the reasons why. 'Personal' might mean she has a black guy at home, it might mean she got beaten up a couple of times by black guys, it might mean she just doesn't like black guys.

But she does see Asians, that's gotta hurt a bit!  ;)

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Okay so take a look at this profile

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this is someone that doesnt see black guys but understands that this comes across all wrong and apologises for it, you can tell that its something she feels she has to mention and explain away (which she doesnt oddly enough) but i dont see her as being racist

I can understand your position and reasoning.

What I do not understand - well I probably do actually  :P is the disclaimer at the end of not seeing any particular race:

ie I am not racist etc etc etc,

particularly on AW, but you rarely find it in VS ad. This latter part I cannot explain  :unknown:
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particularly on AW, but you rarely find it in VS ad. This latter part I cannot explain  :unknown:

For me VS is about quick money, they are not interested in building a following and/or profile. So less restrictions, but IMO leads to more B&S accounts as they basically dont care.

And because of this, I hardly use VS.

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For me VS is about quick money, they are not interested in building a following and/or profile. So less restrictions, but IMO leads to more B&S accounts as they basically dont care.

And because of this, I hardly use VS.

Very interesting point.

My own take on it, I think it is 'bad marketing' if the WG markets herself as being 'racist' inadvertently or otherwise. Hence the need for the disclaimer to prove that the WG is not racist etc.

Notwithstanding in our present culture to be 'racist' is to be linked to unintelligent thinking ie humans have move forward etc etc
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She says:     A. I don't see black men. I know that sounds awful. I'm not racist, I promise. It's personal. I mean no offense to anyone. I do see Asians.

Like any of these girls, you never really know the reasons why. 'Personal' might mean she has a black guy at home, it might mean she got beaten up a couple of times by black guys, it might mean she just doesn't like black guys.

But she does see Asians, that's gotta hurt a bit!  ;)



Why should that "hurt a bit"? Is this some sort of a competition?
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No, it's a joke (perhaps in bad taste, but a joke nevertheless).

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Here's another crock of BS: "Sorry, but due to a past bad experience I no longer no longer see black men" Really? Well that's interesting because believe it or not, there are plenty of white punters out there who are jacked up on coke, or booze or both who have given many an escort a very bad experience. I know because some of them have told me about the unpleasantness (to put it mildly) they faced, and believe me it wasn't pretty. Also, have read escort accounts of having bad experiences with white guys who had absolutely appalling hygiene. You think after any one of such experiences, the escorts then ran to redact their profiles and say "Sorry, but due to a previous bad experience, I no longer see white men"? Of course not. I think we all know why.
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Here's another crock of BS: "Sorry, but due to a past bad experience I no longer no longer see black men" Really? Well that's interesting because believe it or not, there are plenty of white punters out there who are jacked up on coke, or booze or both who have given many an escort a very bad experience. I know because some of them have told me about the unpleasantness (to put it mildly) they faced, and believe me it wasn't pretty. Also, have read escort accounts of having bad experiences with white guys who had absolutely appalling hygiene. You think after any one of such experiences, the escorts then ran to redact their profiles and say "Sorry, but due to a previous bad experience, I no longer see white men"? Of course not. I think we all know why.

You seem to think you know why!!!!
Maybe they just don’t want to see black men as a personal choice.

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Get over it!

Prossies aren't going to be the most logical thinkers at the best of times.

And there's plenty of prossies who openly declare a liking for 'black cock' (same as on civvy street).

Or failing that, go and see your local MP and complain about the situation?

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You get over it. I have nothing to "complain" about. I have my fair share of punts like anyone else. Just making an observation. You can complain, however, if you want to.
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Could've sworn you were complaining.

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Could've sworn you were complaining.

It sounded like that to me too.
Maybe he was just pointing out they are obviously all racists, but it doesn’t bother him..

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Here's another crock of BS: "Sorry, but due to a past bad experience I no longer no longer see black men" Really? Well that's interesting because believe it or not, there are plenty of white punters out there who are jacked up on coke, or booze or both who have given many an escort a very bad experience. I know because some of them have told me about the unpleasantness (to put it mildly) they faced, and believe me it wasn't pretty. Also, have read escort accounts of having bad experiences with white guys who had absolutely appalling hygiene. You think after any one of such experiences, the escorts then ran to redact their profiles and say "Sorry, but due to a previous bad experience, I no longer see white men"? Of course not. I think we all know why.
Two points to make why would an escort exclude about 80 percent of their clients? I've only ever seen one profile that was only black guys only and that was years ago.

Two: Who would waste their time bitching about punters and you openly join in the discussion? I'm usually too busy shaggin - if I do discuss stuff like that it isn't negative and is light hearted and I relate back to me.

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The prossies that refuse black men do so because they think that all black men are either hung like horses, fuck like wild stallions, smell or have general bad hygiene, or are just a plain hideous looking (ape like) and are beneath them. Those that claim to do so because "they have a black boyfriend" I laugh because if they had a white boyfriend they would not exclude all white men from service. Personally I prefer that they are open about their race preferences so I can personally "blacklist" them and save time and money on a possible poor service.