The proverbial TOFTT

[Stevensmiles]

It was something LLP said in the punting summary 2018 thread.
He listed how many times he had took on for the team.

It set me wondering just how many people actually do this and if they do, is it a conscious and deliberate decision.

Although I’ve punted for many years I’m a relative newcomer to reviewing and this site to be honest. So I’m learning the technicalities of reading and posting ....... not the punting.
We all punt for a reason so I’m not getting into that at all.

But as a newcomer so to speak,  I have been reading the reviews a lot more and even though it may be an unconscious reaction on my part. I do feel as if I’m treading a bit more carefully before jumping into a punt.
It has to be quite simply because someone has either been there before me or by and large. Because someone has TOFTT.

I sort of did a TOFTT myself recently and reviewed the lady on here.
GoddessLayla.

Although she did have AW feedback I didn’t see a review on here.
But I fancied her so much I think it was pure lust on my part rather than a scouting mission for the benefit of you lot.

But I ask again. Do some of you guys actually go see someone purely because your TOFTT.

[Stevensmiles]

What worries me about my TOFTT with GoddessLayla.......nobody has seen her since I was there.

 

[Waterhouse]

What worries me about my TOFTT with GoddessLayla.......nobody has seen her since I was there.

 

[Jock D]

TOFTT, is probably the phrase I hate most on this site...it's just Americanized wankspeak that's found it's way over here

You're taking...A Punt...FFS!

[Jeremy]

It does irk me when I see a member throw up a link to an unreviewed girl and ask someone here to TOFTT... if you're that keen to find out what she's like take the risk yourself you scrounging cunt.
I'm all for the spirit of UKP and giving each other help and advice but that just takes the piss.

[Stevenfun]

I have yet to break my duck on a TOFTT.
Plenty of opportunities.
But none of them take my particular fancy.
It will happen I'm sure, but it won't be a tofft decision just because..
It will simply be because the sp's photos show her in such a way I'm irrestibly drawn to her, or, her profile describes a particular kink she excels at that I'm interested in exploring.

[JonasG]

I have 8 first time reviews seemingly.

I don't do it on purpose, I just punt if I get good vibes off a profile and a phone call.

Sometimes it's worked out, sometimes it hasn't.

[Derrick101]

I've done a few TOFTT punts, and been fairly lucky.

I think it's only fair that you do the occasional one if you use the plethora of information here to steer clear of bad ones. Someone has done one so that you could do so 

[Steely Dan]

I would never do it for that reason.  TOFTT is a joke.  If anyone truly fucks ONLY for the purpose of helping guys on this site, I think that is a bit fucked up.  It is enough to just review the punts you have. People sometimes say the same thing on a casino gaming table when they ask for a card that ends up making the whole table win.  Then everyone thanks them - but all know they did it to win their hand.

But, yeah, I do try escorts not reviewed on here before.  Sometimes it is the best choice due to time location or whatever. A RB seems to have a greater chance of being a non reviewed escort. I am too lazy to count how many of my reviews are TOFTT reviews ... might be 20%? Some are crap. Some turn out very well indeed.  Like this one: External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

[tomato sauce and waffles]

If I find a WG attractive and she seems legit, I'll just punt her. I'm not really concerned if she hasn't been reviewed before. Sometimes I don't realise I'm the first member to punt her.

[peter purves]

The term is used metaphorically or colloquially, but NOT literally. I am not sure if Punther first came up with it?

There are many terms on here which are not literal like EAS, Punter's Alienation etc

Can't believe I am writing this expose

[sunnyj]

I see WGs who I fancy. I call it TOFTT if I am the first to review it here in UKP.
I have never done a Punt as mentioned in the Punting Wiki for TOFTT
External Link/Members Only

[shagbambi]

TOFTT, is probably the phrase I hate most on this site...it's just Americanized wankspeak that's found it's way over here

You're taking...A Punt...FFS!

Pretty much sums up my opinion on the subject.

[poundstock]

At my old age I don’t want any unwelcome surprises. I rely on UKP positive reviews before making my choice and am grateful to those punters who have gone before me and reported their findings.

[Billy the kid]

Must admit, I assumed that a TOFTT punt was one where there were no previous UKP reviews for the girl - so we were dipping our toe in the water so to speak, and flagging it accordingly.
Having seen a few reviews as such, I just thought it was the 'done thing to do' in that situation?
Having said that, my motivations were because I would want to see her for 'me' based upon profile / pics / location etc (or possibly a last minute replacement punt which I try to stop myself doing now), rather than it being 'because' she was new.

Just my observation on the topic since being on here.

 

[cueball]

Must admit, I assumed that a TOFTT punt was one where there were no previous UKP reviews for the girl - so we were dipping our toe in the water so to speak, and flagging it accordingly.
Having seen a few reviews as such, I just thought it was the 'done thing to do' in that situation?
Having said that, my motivations were because I would want to see her for 'me' based upon profile / pics / location etc (or possibly a last minute replacement punt which I try to stop myself doing now), rather than it being 'because' she was new.

Just my observation on the topic since being on here.

 

Good post this ^^,imo nobody in their right mind does a TOFTT punt just because she's unreviewed.

I've been the first reviewer on a decent number but the TOFTT review is the last thing on my mind....
Her location, price, comms, profile, pics, attitude and likes all dictate whether I punt with her. The TOFTT review is only incidental and last on the list.

Fwiw, I too find the term TOFTT a bit over used and over emphasized, I (for one) don't punt for the team, I punt for me and report back my findings when I'm good and ready.

[Stevensmiles]

Pretty much the responses I knew would be forthcoming.

TOFTT is pure UKP speak, with reference to a girl who has never been reviewed by anyone.

OR

It’s usually mentioned when someone is asking about a SP who is new or nothing known about her.

As in,
“Go TOFTT”

[Grumpy Pumpy]

Interesting post. Nowadays I'm quite a "safe" punter. By that I mean I tend to see regulars, or those well reviewed by others whose views I respect.

My only TOFTT of this year was also my only neutral. Not a shit punt, just a bit "meh". That said, it wouldn't put me off TOFTTing in the future. But I'd need, as others have said, to get a good vibe from the profile and comms.

But there are other punters, perhaps, who enjoy "breaking new ground"

[JonasG]

Must admit, I assumed that a TOFTT punt was one where there were no previous UKP reviews for the girl - so we were dipping our toe in the water so to speak, and flagging it accordingly.
Having seen a few reviews as such, I just thought it was the 'done thing to do' in that situation?
Having said that, my motivations were because I would want to see her for 'me' based upon profile / pics / location etc (or possibly a last minute replacement punt which I try to stop myself doing now), rather than it being 'because' she was new.

Just my observation on the topic since being on here.

 

My thoughts on it too.

[LLPunting]

"Punting" isn't "punting" if you're seeing a well reviewed, reliable SP, you're taking about as much risk as binge watching your favourite show.

I choose to see unreviewed talent because:
1) First and foremost the girl is attractive to me, whether looks or demeanour. 
2) I am foolishly hopeful of finding a gem because I'm after unspoilt, unaffected, impassioned "GFE" (dumb as that is) with a girl who isn't jaded/inured to getting lost in the moment. 

True I'm not taking it for the team, I'm seeking for my own ends, just happy to share even if many may seem to be warnings.  The best thing we can do is warn each other of poor providers.  Sharing the greats is fine but as many have said (and most leeches probably think) sharing risks availability and burnout.

Henceforth I will label such encounters as FRE - First Reviewed Encounter.

[peter purves]

"Punting" isn't "punting" if you're seeing a well reviewed, reliable SP, you're taking about as much risk as binge watching your favourite show.

I choose to see unreviewed talent because:
1) First and foremost the girl is attractive to me, whether looks or demeanour. 
2) I am foolishly hopeful of finding a gem because I'm after unspoilt, unaffected, impassioned "GFE" (dumb as that is) with a girl who isn't jaded/inured to getting lost in the moment. 

True I'm not taking it for the team, I'm seeking for my own ends, just happy to share even if many may seem to be warnings.  The best thing we can do is warn each other of poor providers.  Sharing the greats is fine but as many have said (and most leeches probably think) sharing risks availability and burnout.

Henceforth I will label such encounters as FRE - First Reviewed Encounter.

 

No, please! I prefer TOFFT term 

[mrhappypants]

Seeing SP's who have not been reviewed opens up the field. Learning how to research and qualify from primary sources pays off in the quality and value of your punts.  Otherwise you're at the mercy of other punters (and touts).

[JonasG]

Sometimes you just gotta go for it.

The thrill of seeing some random profile on AW which has potential and then when you search UKP and see no reviews and go in without any knowledge it's a good feeling.

The suspense. 😍

[Stevensmiles]

The suspense. 😍

Ahhhhh the suspense. Such a great feeling.

Sometimes the suspense turns out to be the best part of a punt. 

[Billy the kid]

"Punting" isn't "punting" if you're seeing a well reviewed, reliable SP, you're taking about as much risk as binge watching your favourite show.

That's certainly a different description than my assumed understanding of a 'punt' which I had always considered to mean a 'meeting' with an SP. not saying my understanding is correct - just what I thought it meant since being on the forum.  Looked it up in punting wiki and it's not actually covered. Also just assumed a 'punter' was just someone who visits said SP's.
Wasn't my understanding that risk taking needed to be involved - however also agree with the sentiment of the thrill when meeting someone new, but also appreciate the 'ease' of a return to a familiar and VFM provider.


I get the literal meaning of 'taking a punt' but wasn't aware it applied in the context (again not suggesting I'm correct - it's an interesting point raised on this thread).

[LLPunting]

That's certainly a different description...

It wasn't  a definition it was an interpretation, hence use of inverted commas.
Plenty here take the risk aspect into account, these are often the soldiers who stick their heads up.
Others of a more delicate persuasion who like to feel included will claim the looser description which isn't about chancing the SPs and services offered but risking the consequences of being outed. 

[MrArmagh]

I hope I'm the only one asking this but what it  TOFTT mean? what does it stand for?

[Innocente]

It seems like a badge of honor around here.
I must say, I don't think anybody would TOFTT if they didn't see the possible scenario where they discover a fresh, not burned out gem before all the others.

[Gordon Bennett]

As long as it's an honest account I can live with all manner of weird language, slang and odd turns of phrase. I can't speak for all regions but my feeling is that the current reviewing is as good, varied, useful and comprehensive as any time I've known in past 3 or 4 years so things like TOFTT don't bother me at all.

[CockMonster]

I'm also one who just assumed from usage on the site that TOFTT was used to denote the reviewing of someone who hadn't been reviewed (on here) before, so seems like I've been using it wrong.  But then considering language is mostly dictated by usage - maybe it's time for the glossary to be updated?

And to answer OP's original question, I don't TOFTT as an end goal in and of itself - indeed most of the time I prefer to stick to well-reviewed SP's to mitigate the vast array of time that could be wasted...  However if their profile, comms, and attitude are great, then I'll go out on a limb no problem.  And happy to report back my findings here to repay the benefits others have shared!

[Stevensmiles]

I'm also one who just assumed from usage on the site that TOFTT was used to denote the reviewing of someone who hadn't been reviewed (on here) before, so seems like I've been using it wrong.  But then considering language is mostly dictated by usage - maybe it's time for the glossary to be updated?

And to answer OP's original question, I don't TOFTT as an end goal in and of itself - indeed most of the time I prefer to stick to well-reviewed SP's to mitigate the vast array of time that could be wasted...  However if their profile, comms, and attitude are great, then I'll go out on a limb no problem.  And happy to report back my findings here to repay the benefits others have shared!

I think most folk think along these lines CM.

I also agree with the badge of honour comment. As if TOFTT makes you superior in some kind of inferior way.

[tynetunnel]

I hope I'm the only one asking this but what it  TOFTT mean? what does it stand for?

Take One For The Team

My understanding was that it wasn’t literally ‘for the team’ but simply a previously unreviewed WG that a chap decided he liked the look of, and visited. Surely nobody would actually go and visit someone purely for the benefit of reviewing for other members?

[Malvolio]

Take One For The Team

My understanding was that it wasn’t literally ‘for the team’ but simply a previously unreviewed WG that a chap decided he liked the look of, and visited. Surely nobody would actually go and visit someone purely for the benefit of reviewing for other members?

I will volunteer to visit someone purely for the benefit of reviewing for other members if my expenses are paid.

The things I do for you guys...

[cueball]

I will volunteer to visit someone purely for the benefit of reviewing for other members if my expenses are paid.

Ok, we'll have a wip round on here for the fee.... And I'll find you the rental candidate 

Remember, you're doing this for the team 

[LLPunting]

It seems like a badge of honor around here.
I must say, I don't think anybody would TOFTT if they didn't see the possible scenario where they discover a fresh, not burned out gem before all the others.

Advancement in every field of human activity has involved risking the unknown, I definitely appreciate those who contribute at this level more than any other.  Without them I wouldn't learn more than I do with just my own limited adventures.
What use would this site be if no-one reviewed new SPs?

[Stevensmiles]

Advancement in every field of human activity has involved risking the unknown, I definitely appreciate those who contribute at this level more than any other.  Without them I wouldn't learn more than I do with just my own limited adventures.
What use would this site be if no-one reviewed new SPs?

I don’t think that’s the argument LLP.
But I know what your getting at.
Although you come across as a big headed know it all and I just know in real life we wouldn’t get on. 
It’s members like yourself who I read most prominently. The reviews being most informative etc.

I just don’t think TOFTT actually exists in reality.
“TO GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE” ...... review wise 

I’m leaving the bridge..... I’ll get me coat 

[LLPunting]

I don’t think that’s the argument LLP.
But I know what your getting at.
Although you come across as a big headed know it all and I just know in real life we wouldn’t get on. 
It’s members like yourself who I read most prominently. The reviews being most informative etc.

I just don’t think TOFTT actually exists in reality.
“TO GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE” ...... review wise 

I’m leaving the bridge..... I’ll get me coat 

Live long and prosper.

In this voluntary association we're all able to TOFTT subject to our own inclination to take that risk.  The fact that one is willing doesn't detract from the fact that no one else will step forward and review their past experience with or try any particular "unknown" SP.

[Stevensmiles]

Live long and prosper.

In this voluntary association we're all able to TOFTT subject to our own inclination to take that risk.  The fact that one is willing doesn't detract from the fact that no one else will step forward and review their past experience with or try any particular "unknown" SP.

Actually that’s a fuckin good point.
Just as much as I think people don’t actually or consciously TOFTT. I do think there a lot of those out there who DON’T see SP’s unless they’ve been reviewed.

Cowards the lot of you 

[Waterhouse]

Actually that’s a fuckin good point.
Just as much as I think people don’t actually or consciously TOFTT. I do think there a lot of those out there who DON’T see SP’s unless they’ve been reviewed.

Cowards the lot of you 

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[Stevensmiles]

Just who are the saviours of the UKP galaxy 

[winkywanky]

I hope I'm the only one asking this but what it  TOFTT mean? what does it stand for?

Take
One
For
The
Team

(ie be the first one to sample, and then review)

[Stevensmiles]

Take
One
For
The
Team

(ie be the first one to sample, and then review)

Wouldn’t that be something. Sounds like something from the thread about what do you and SP’s talk about afterwards.

“Yes darling. You are my first client..... ever” 

[winkywanky]

Yes, with Like A Virgin by Madonna playing in the background as you fuck her

[Third Man]

I'd only see a girl if I wanted to see her, so it's hardly toftt. And if it was a neg or neutral I'd review.