House of Divine - West Kensington - Avoid

[hillingdonpete]

what a stupid post again you didn t want to answer the point because you know it's the truth.

There are many many many positive reports by punters there . Please acknowledge this and stop looking at the few negative reports .

The positive reports MASSIVELY out weigh the negatives,

One Negative review is worth a hundred Positive written by fluffy cunts.
Now stop being a cunt and make sure people get the time they PAY for.

Nothing difficult.

[smiths]

At the end of the day the following is true without any shadow of a doubt  .

1. The girls work there of their own free will.
2. The girls have a safe working environment.
3. The clients have a safe place to visit.
4. The place is audited by law enforcement. And is known by them, the police if they felt something was a danger to the public or not being properly run would have shut this place down ages ago , instead they have permitted it to go from 1 location to 3.
5. There are at least a thousandsl plus of positive reports over the years.
6. The prices are reasonable

Please respect this

There is NO such thing as police auditing an illegal brothel, please give a link to the Met police website where it states they have audited HOD as proof of what you have stated.

You really are a sickening white knight fanboy, I have zero respect for pimps as posters like you.

[LLPunting]

At the end of the day the following is true without any shadow of a doubt  .

1. The girls work there of their own free will.  TRUE OF MANY OTHER PLACES
2. The girls have a safe working environment.  TRUE OF MANY OTHER PLACES
3. The clients have a safe place to visit.   TRUE OF MANY OTHER PLACES
4. The place is audited by law enforcement. And is known by them, the police if they felt something was a danger to the public or not being properly run would have shut this place down ages ago , instead they have permitted it to go from 1 location to 3.   PURE CONJECTURE BY YOU
5. There are at least a thousandsl plus of positive reports over the years.  DID YOU COUNT?  AGAIN CONJECTURE
6. The prices are reasonable YOUR OPINION, GIVEN MORE INDIES OFFER SIMILAR SERVICE LEVELS FOR LESS OTHERS COULD CONCLUDE OTHERWISE

Please respect this  WHY? YOU'RE JUST PEDDLING YOUR BELIEFS AS "FACTS"

ONLY CERTAINTY FROM EVIDENCE ON THIS THREAD - NICEGUYJAMES IS A TROLL

[niceguyjames]

Fuck off ....

They lie, fabricate reports, have fanboys on discounts to post positive reviews, and you are of dubious character. Gut feeling you are that slimeball pimp Karl 

fuck off , watch your mouth buddy let's see If you can be an adult for a change.

But feeling wrong, read my post above   

[niceguyjames]

One Negative review is worth a hundred Positive written by fluffy cunts.
Now stop being a cunt and make sure people get the time they PAY for.

Nothing difficult.

watch your mouth with your language let's see If you can behave like a grown up and engage in some debate in the facts that surround this situation .

Like
 1. The girls work in the place of their own free will.
2. It's a safe place for them to work
3. It's reasonable prices
4. There are many many many positives reviews
5.It's a safe place for punters to visit

[niceguyjames]

There is NO such thing as police auditing an illegal brothel, please give a link to the Met police website where it states they have audited HOD as proof of what you have stated.

You really are a sickening white knight fanboy, I have zero respect for pimps as posters like you.

the police know about this place FACT
The police have allowed it to expand From 1 location to 3 FACT
This pimp nonsense that you seem to keep peddling and incorrectly believe in is total junk absolutely nononse the girls are free to work or not work there as they please. So stop making yourself look stupid with this pimp cra p you keep peddling and engage in the facts

1. It's a safe place for the girls to work
2. I the girls work there of their own free will
3. It's a safe place for clients to visit
4. It's reasonably priced
5. There are many many many positive reports
 

[hillingdonpete]

watch your mouth with your language let's see If you can behave like a grown up and engage in some debate in the facts that surround this situation .

Like
 1. The girls work in the place of their own free will.
2. It's a safe place for them to work
3. It's reasonable prices
4. There are many many many positives reviews
5.It's a safe place for punters to visit

Are you in a parallel universe?

Why dont you address the problem highlighted in this topic.
I will use any language I see fit. I certainly will not be told what to say and how to say it by some faceless pimp.

Your establishment is facing criticism. deal with the criticism instead of talking total bollocks about unrelated issues.

[finn5555]

the police know about this place FACT
The police have allowed it to expand From 1 location to 3 FACT
This pimp nonsense that you seem to keep peddling and incorrectly believe in is total junk absolutely nononse the girls are free to work or not work there as they please. So stop making yourself look stupid with this pimp cra p you keep peddling and engage in the facts

1. It's a safe place for the girls to work
2. I the girls work there of their own free will
3. It's a safe place for clients to visit
4. It's reasonably priced
5. There are many many many positive reports
 

Another load of bollocks 

[niceguyjames]

Are you in a parallel universe?

Why dont you address the problem highlighted in this topic.
I will use any language I see fit. I certainly will not be told what to say and how to say it by some faceless pimp.

Your establishment is facing criticism. deal with the criticism instead of talking total bollocks about unrelated issues.

again ypu are peddking your pimp crap and totally false


1. The girls are free to work at this place any time they like or leave any time they like. HOD is simply a safe place for them to work that's it away from any aggressive or controlling pimps. Do you understand this concept?

 can we address the facts please there are many many many positive reports over the years , what is the difficulty I  understanding and acknowledging this ? ??

[finn5555]

 can we address the facts please there are many many many positive reports over the years , what is the difficulty I  understanding and acknowledging this ? ??

It’s been proven on numerous occasions that punters are given discounts to post positive reviews on pro$$ies from the Devine brothels 

On that basis no review should be trusted

[Fuzzyduck]

From time to time, I do consider HOD again. I've not been much since South Ken closed down and I was put off by all the media exposure earlier this year. Recently I thought it was perhaps time to check things out again.

However, whenever I've felt like this in the past I've had to remind myself what a total cunt Evanson is. Total cunt. So thanks, UKP, for resetting my compass.

[niceguyjames]

It’s been proven on numerous occasions that punters are given discounts to post positive reviews on pro$$ies from the Devine brothels 

On that basis no review should be trusted

and how many of those are from . Rival establishments or childish and immature punters that are fake  and negative or are those ALWAYS genuine because your deep hatred and total obsession with HOD

[niceguyjames]

From time to time, I do consider HOD again. I've not been much since South Ken closed down and I was put off by all the media exposure earlier this year. Recently I thought it was perhaps time to check things out again.

However, whenever I've felt like this in the past I've had to remind myself what a total cunt Evanson is. Total cunt. So thanks, UKP, for resetting my compass.

come on buddy let's behave like a gentleman that's in co tell of himself.  Less of the C word please let's have some self control

[smiths]

the police know about this place FACT
The police have allowed it to expand From 1 location to 3 FACT
This pimp nonsense that you seem to keep peddling and incorrectly believe in is total junk absolutely nononse the girls are free to work or not work there as they please. So stop making yourself look stupid with this pimp cra p you keep peddling and engage in the facts

1. It's a safe place for the girls to work
2. I the girls work there of their own free will
3. It's a safe place for clients to visit
4. It's reasonably priced
5. There are many many many positive reports
 

Of course they know about as they know about ALL brothels that advertise for punters, that's not the same as you saying they audit it which is shit, as I said please provide proof from the Met site that they do audit it.

A pimp is a person who takes agreed or not a cut of a WGs fees which is a crime, the divines who own HOD ARE pimps legally, criminals breaking the law who can be arrested at any time. Ask the Met police not me why they haven't been done so far. So its not nonsense at all, its a legal fact, read the CPS legal site and learn the facts before posting total shit like this. Clueless white knight fanboy.

[smiths]

again ypu are peddking your pimp crap and totally false


1. The girls are free to work at this place any time they like or leave any time they like. HOD is simply a safe place for them to work that's it away from any aggressive or controlling pimps. Do you understand this concept?

 can we address the facts please there are many many many positive reports over the years , what is the difficulty I  understanding and acknowledging this ? ??

More untrue shit, they are pimps legally and breaking the law, its a fact, go and read the law about pimps and you will find having a third party in a deal between a WG and punter makes them a pimp and is illegal, its not my opinion, its a legal fact.

Of course an evil cunt who forces women to be WGs is worse than those like the divines who don't, but both are pimps and breaking the law, its just that the former should get much longer prison sentences than the latter, both should get done and POCA to try to seize their assets and HMRC to do them if they haven't been paying the correct tax.

[haggismccormick]

It is obvious that NGJ is either a super fluffy or, more likely, has some vested interest.

I have been to HOD only once in my life. That was many years ago, before I had heard of UKP, just behind Warren Street station and saw an (almost) MILF called Lottie. She gave a good but rather mechanical service. No kissing and only OW. Had I reviewed her it would have been a neutral. Didn't really like it so never went back.

The main point here is that the owners could argue that they are not pimps. The money they take, they will say, is rental for the room and use of the telephone and facilities etc. They will say that they neither know nor care what happens in the room and as it appears it is accepted by all that the girls are free agents, i.e.not coerced or trafficked, they just might get away with it, and the cops know it.

I am not a lawyer so I won't be offended or surprised if I am told  I have just spouted a load of nonsense.

[Belgarion]

again ypu are peddking your pimp crap and totally false


1. The girls are free to work at this place any time they like or leave any time they like. HOD is simply a safe place for them to work that's it away from any aggressive or controlling pimps. Do you understand this concept?

 can we address the facts please there are many many many positive reports over the years , what is the difficulty I  understanding and acknowledging this ? ??

Do HOD offer the place to work free of charge?

[niceguyjames]

Of course they know about as they know about ALL brothels that advertise for punters, that's not the same as you saying they audit it which is shit, as I said please provide proof from the Met site that they do audit it.

A pimp is a person who takes agreed or not a cut of a WGs fees which is a crime, the divines who own HOD ARE pimps legally, criminals breaking the law who can be arrested at any time. Ask the Met police not me why they haven't been done so far. So its not nonsense at all, its a legal fact, read the CPS legal site and learn the facts before posting total shit like this. Clueless white knight fanboy.

let's see If you can do some analysis all by yourself .  (And please don't say ask the met themselves as that's just lame and immature as you know where this is heading )

Why do you think the police haven't shut the place down And instead have allowed to to expand to 3 locations?

[niceguyjames]

Do HOD offer the place to work free of charge?

 

[niceguyjames]

It is obvious that NGJ is either a super fluffy or, more likely, has some vested interest.

I have been to HOD only once in my life. That was many years ago, before I had heard of UKP, just behind Warren Street station and saw an (almost) MILF called Lottie. She gave a good but rather mechanical service. No kissing and only OW. Had I reviewed her it would have been a neutral. Didn't really like it so never went back.

The main point here is that the owners could argue that they are not pimps. The money they take, they will say, is rental for the room and use of the telephone and facilities etc. They will say that they neither know nor care what happens in the room and as it appears it is accepted by all that the girls are free agents, i.e.not coerced or trafficked, they just might get away with it, and the cops know it.

I am not a lawyer so I won't be offended or surprised if I am told  I have just spouted a load of nonsense.

congratulations you have won the intelligence as of the year award .

You went to HOD saw one girl many years ago, didnt like it and decided that they are all like that 

[Belgarion]

 

Simple question. Do they?

How much of a cut do they give you?

[niceguyjames]

More untrue shit, they are pimps legally and breaking the law, its a fact, go and read the law about pimps and you will find having a third party in a deal between a WG and punter makes them a pimp and is illegal, its not my opinion, its a legal fact.

Of course an evil cunt who forces women to be WGs is worse than those like the divines who don't, but both are pimps and breaking the law, its just that the former should get much longer prison sentences than the latter, both should get done and POCA to try to seize their assets and HMRC to do them if they haven't been paying the correct tax.

tje polixe are well aware of HOD and would have shut it down ages ago if they weren't happy with it so please stop spouting your cra p about it being illegal it's boring and inaccurate and again you are ignoring the facts.  The police are well aware of HOD and have decided not to act against it

 buddy do you not read the posts I'm writing to you ??? whats with using the C word. Do you not have any self control

[niceguyjames]

Simple question. Do they?

How much of a cut do they give you?

noting unfortunately,  I dont work for the. Or have any affiliation with them I'm just a simple punter

[smiths]

tje polixe are well aware of HOD and would have shut it down ages ago if they weren't happy with it so please stop spouting your cra p about it being illegal it's boring and inaccurate and again you are ignoring the facts.  The police are well aware of HOD and have decided not to act against it

 buddy do you not read the posts I'm writing to you ??? whats with using the C word. Do you not have any self control

Lies again, ALL brothels are illegal and the Crown Prosecution Service site proves it, clearly you haven't a clue about the law on brothels or do know them but are pretending you don't.

ALL brothels are illegal and ALL pimps who take an agreed or not cut of a WGs fees are pimps and breaking the law. YOU ask the police why they haven't raided HOD, I don't know as I don't work for the police.

[smiths]

let's see If you can do some analysis all by yourself .  (And please don't say ask the met themselves as that's just lame and immature as you know where this is heading )

Why do you think the police haven't shut the place down And instead have allowed to to expand to 3 locations?

Because Karl used to be a copper and offers free sex and bungs to his mates in return for them turning a blind eye. POCA may also be investigating Karl and his wife looking to seize their assets, the more money they make the more the POCA order may be.

[smiths]

noting unfortunately,  I dont work for the. Or have any affiliation with them I'm just a simple punter

Cause you don't. Didn't answer whether the WGs pay to work at HOD, well they do, they pay the pimp a third of their fees which is illegal and the pimps are breaking the law by taking that cut.

[haggismccormick]

NGJ. You have missed my point. What I or any individual punter does is entirely irrelevant to the wider discussion about HOD or indeed any establishment. It is blatantly obvious that you have some vested, probably financial, interest in HOD and we are being charitable if we describe you only as a tout. Normally quite reasonable, just like any advertising. But NOT repeat NOT on this site. This is a PUNTERS site whose sole purpose is to provide advice, assistance and information etc. for punters. If you want to promote yourself there are plenty of facilities which will happily publish you both for payment and some even for free.
It is agreed by all that HOD gives incentives for positive reviews thereby rendering them worthless. Other agencies, notably the Asian ones, also do that  but it is not the same. With an agency you visit the girl at her own place, give her the money and it could be argued that she herself is giving the discount to encourage a return to her. With an establishment it is entirely different as I am sure you can see.
If I were you I would now stop. You have successfully achieved that I would, after reading all your bumpf never go to HOD and I would be extremely surprised if I am the only one.

[niceguyjames]

Lies again, ALL brothels are illegal and the Crown Prosecution Service site proves it, clearly you haven't a clue about the law on brothels or do know them but are pretending you don't.

ALL brothels are illegal and ALL pimps who take an agreed or not cut of a WGs fees are pimps and breaking the law. YOU ask the police why they haven't raided HOD, I don't know as I don't work for the police.

ok I accept that it is illegal BUT my question to you use if it is illegal and thevpolixe know about it why don't you think they have shut it down?

[niceguyjames]

Cause you don't. Didn't answer whether the WGs pay to work at HOD, well they do, they pay the pimp a third of their fees which is illegal and the pimps are breaking the law by taking that cut.

considering the amount of flak I am taking and time spent positing on here .....but that's not why I'm sticking up for them

[finn5555]

ok I accept that it is illegal BUT my question to you use if it is illegal and thevpolixe know about it why don't you think they have shut it down?

Ask the Met 

[finn5555]

your deep hatred and total obsession with HOD

Would love to see them shut down and that cunt Karl arrested I know first hand how he treats the pro$$ies, is he still fucking them behind his wife’s back  he enjoys all the trappings of living of imoral earnings but like all criminals he will be caught out one day 

[smiths]

ok I accept that it is illegal BUT my question to you use if it is illegal and thevpolixe know about it why don't you think they have shut it down?

Ah you accept it now, previously I was posting nonsense. I answered your point directly above, Karl the male pimp is ex-police and bribes and/or offers his old copper mates free sex, and maybe POCA is building a case to seize their assets, and the more the pimp makes the more they may get.

In Manchester Sandys Superstars was allowed too operate as a brothel at 2 or 3 locations for years but got done in the end. I cant answer for the Met police as I am not one of them.

The fact is an illegal business which you have now finally agreed HOD is COULD get raided at any time and the pimp/s nicked.

[Belgarion]

noting unfortunately,  I dont work for the. Or have any affiliation with them I'm just a simple punter

Of course you are 

You must think you are talking to children in a nursery.

Do you get paid in cash or do you get freebies for touting?

Even the owners of HOD have not defended themselves so passionately.

 

[finn5555]

Even the owners of HOD have not defended themselves so passionately.

 

They would love to but the cunts are banned from here and rightly so 

[smiths]

They would love to but the cunts are banned from here and rightly so 

Indeed, which is why they bribe some willing punters like VT banned off here for taking bribes off pimps and having admitted to doing so though he called it a permanent discount. Raylondoner also banned off here is another and I have no doubt there are loads more.

This poster is at least a white knight fanboy in my view, and maybe linked to HOD but he or she has done them no favours so far. What Karl and his pimp wife want are credible touts for them on here, the number 1 punting forum in the UK, posters who might be believed, ideally real punters but corrupted by them, something the divines have been doing for 10 years to my knowledge.


Lord Melchett, 6UPXXX, Trolley, Lamorak and Asianbeast aka Marty McFly were all on the take from the divines, 6up was banned before I joined UKP, Lamorak banned later and we know about Asianbeast aka McFly, an evil cunt. Melchett and Trolley may be on here as other punters who knows.

[niceguyjames]

Ask the Met 

come on buddy stop hiding and get answering

Why do you think the police haven't closed it down .?

[niceguyjames]

Would love to see them shut down and that cunt Karl arrested I know first hand how he treats the pro$$ies, is he still fucking them behind his wife’s back  he enjoys all the trappings of living of imoral earnings but like all criminals he will be caught out one day 

come on buddy behave yourself and get a life . Karl is out there ducking girls and running a business (I assume) you are on the internet.....

[niceguyjames]

Of course you are 

You must think you are talking to children in a nursery.

Do you get paid in cash or do you get freebies for touting?

Even the owners of HOD have not defended themselves so passionately.

 

I get nothing I'm not connecyed with them at all

[Belgarion]

I get nothing I'm not connecyed with them at all

Of course you're not 

[finn5555]

come on buddy behave yourself and get a life . Karl is out there ducking girls and running an illegal brothel (I assume) you are on the internet.....

Corrected it for you 

[niceguyjames]

Indeed, which is why they bribe some willing punters like VT banned off here for taking bribes off pimps and having admitted to doing so though he called it a permanent discount. Raylondoner also banned off here is another and I have no doubt there are loads more.

This poster is at least a white knight fanboy in my view, and maybe linked to HOD but he or she has done them no favours so far. What Karl and his pimp wife want are credible touts for them on here, the number 1 punting forum in the UK, posters who might be believed, ideally real punters but corrupted by them, something the divines have been doing for 10 years to my knowledge.


Lord Melchett, 6UPXXX, Trolley, Lamorak and Asianbeast aka Marty McFly were all on the take from the divines, 6up was banned before I joined UKP, Lamorak banned later and we know about Asianbeast aka McFly, an evil cunt. Melchett and Trolley may be on here as other punters who knows.

look how badly your hatred and anget and total obsession with thia place has got to you , look at the language you use like the C word. Ive told you to behave like gentlemen and to have more self controller your langauge . Ypu clearly dont listen and lack basic manners .You are clearly obsessed with this place and have a deep hatred . I bet you spend all day thinking about this place . Enjoy your life

[finn5555]

look how badly your hatred and anget and total obsession with thia place has got to you , look at the language you use like the C word. Ive told you to behave like gentlemen and to have more self controller your langauge . Ypu clearly dont listen and lack basic manners .You are clearly obsessed with this place and have a deep hatred . I bet you spend all day thinking about this place . Enjoy your life

can you use spell check please as nothing you post makes sense 

[niceguyjames]

1. It's a safe place for the girls to work
2. I the girls work there of their own free will
3. It's a safe place for clients to visit
4. It's reasonably priced
5. There are many many many positive reports

Please respect this , thank you

[smiths]

look how badly your hatred and anget and total obsession with thia place has got to you , look at the language you use like the C word. Ive told you to behave like gentlemen and to have more self controller your langauge . Ypu clearly dont listen and lack basic manners .You are clearly obsessed with this place and have a deep hatred . I bet you spend all day thinking about this place . Enjoy your life

Thanks for the chuckle, you have TOLD me to behave. I have more respect for a piece of dog shit than a white knight fanboy like you.

You only recently agreed it WAS a brothel after saying that was nonsense earlier, you are all over the place but one thing has been consistent so far, you are a surpreme arse licker of these pimps who own HOD.

[niceguyjames]

Of course you are 

You must think you are talking to children in a nursery.

Do you get paid in cash or do you get freebies for touting?

Even the owners of HOD have not defended themselves so passionately.

 

how much are the HOD rivals paying you to be a penis snogger?

[finn5555]

penis snogger

What the fuck is one of those 

[Fuzzyduck]

What the fuck is one of those 

I think he/she called you a cock sucker, mate. You know how he/she doesn't like the C-word.

[finn5555]

I think he/she called you a cock sucker, mate. You know how he/she doesn't like the C-word.

He wasn't calling me it but it's something you hear kids saying in primary school to mock each other

 Mind you looking at niceguyjames literacy skills on here he would be the dunce in primary school 

[niceguyjames]

Hidden Image/Members Only

What the fuck is one of those 

[Belgarion]

how much are the HOD rivals paying you to be a penis snogger?

I don't punt at brothels or with obviously pimped SPs. That would be you.

You won't last long on this site.