Phoenix Club - 01/11/18

[Alastor22]

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So I took the plunge today after reading the reviews on here and I am glad I did.

Beforehand let me say I was feeling really tired and my performance was very lacking, but it was not due to the girls not trying. On the contrary, they were super attentive all the time and very eager to please.

So the price is the usual £160 and I told the lady that opened the door that I was a newby. She made sure to tell all the girls, which was a very nice detail on her part, because immediately they gave me all their attention.
The lineup today was Toni, Ivana, Elsa, Monique and Delia to three guys at the beginning (lucky me!) I started playing with Ivana and, I believe, Delia. One was spooning me and feeding me her tits while the other was sucking owo and playing with my balls. This lasted quite a while and I was in heaven. I really had my sight on Ivana since the beginning (besides Toni) and I am glad I managed to enjoy her the best part of an hour.

Some time later other 3 guys showed up so unfortunately the girls had to divide their attention. At this moment Delia went to meet them and I was left with Ivana, whose company I enjoyed deeply. We had sex in various positions, a lot of oral, a lot of handjob but I could not come in the end (and this would be the story for the rest of the evening unfortunately  ) she is very proud of her oral skills and she was quite disappointed that she couldn’t take me to the promised land, but it was definitely not her fault.

After that I went for a break and I spent some 10 minutes moving around because every girl was busy and I really didn’t want to interrupt anything. Finally Elsa was freed up so I moved to play with her, suck her beautiful tities and give her some oral on that gorgeous bushy pussy. Right next to us Toni was being fucked hard by this powerful young black man and I was proper jealous because Toni was mainly the reason I wanted to go in the first place to the party (she is a pornstar with the most beautiful ass).
I think Elsa sensed I wanted Toni and I sensed she wanted the black stallion because she proposed a swap and we all agreed quite quickly to it 
Unfortunately at this point I just couldn’t get hard anymore so I saved the worst of me for the one I  wanted to impress the most   . She was very patient with me, anyhow. I tasted her beautiful pussy, her beautiful tits and I asked her to get in doggy, but the friend down there did not want to colaborate.
I asked her to suck me for a bit and then she went for a drink. I went to look for her again and she indulged me in some ass licking (me to her) and that was basically the end of the session. I told her next time she would be first and I’d be prepared and she took my word for it.

Special mention to Monique (I believe it was her), a beautiful brazilian lady, extremely kind and eager to please. I did not play with her, not enough time!
Also the lady that manages the party was very pleasant, very polite and kind to me (with all the newby, shy stuff)

All in all it was a very good experience, I let myself down, but the girls were top. I just hope they don’t think bad of me for having such a rough session lol. I played with 4 girls, so not bad for the first time.

Thanks for reading.

[Stephan200210]

I have not attended a Phoenix Party for a number of years (in fact not since they were called LMP and Moss was around!). So I guess that really dates me. I have read the reviews and other comments on Phoenix and they seem to have bounced back (a bit?) after a bad patch. Hence I am thinking of attending again. And while I imagine it depends on the party and the girl, my query is about how "full on" the parties are now. I picked up on the comment in this review that he was waiting at times as a girl was busy. When I attended before there was lots of spit roasing and girls takaing on 2 - 3 guys at a time. From the current Phoneix reviews and posts I read I get the sense (but I could be wrong) it is more a question of people just "pairing up" and when they are finished, anohter guy gets a go. More like a bunch of couples in the same room rather than a true "gangbang". Anyway, any intel on the current state of play would be appreciated.

[iseekcougar1]

When I went there a year ago, Toni tried to do spit roasting. But the mattress of the bed we were in was very soft/bouncy.. we were just unable to manage the act !
So Toni went back to being one on one.
That day I did not see any other MMF attempts.

[poulen]

I have not attended a Phoenix Party for a number of years (in fact not since they were called LMP and Moss was around!). So I guess that really dates me. I have read the reviews and other comments on Phoenix and they seem to have bounced back (a bit?) after a bad patch. Hence I am thinking of attending again. And while I imagine it depends on the party and the girl, my query is about how "full on" the parties are now. I picked up on the comment in this review that he was waiting at times as a girl was busy. When I attended before there was lots of spit roasing and girls takaing on 2 - 3 guys at a time. From the current Phoneix reviews and posts I read I get the sense (but I could be wrong) it is more a question of people just "pairing up" and when they are finished, anohter guy gets a go. More like a bunch of couples in the same room rather than a true "gangbang". Anyway, any intel on the current state of play would be appreciated.

It has certainly improved over the slump and state that it was a year or so ago and the preceeding one to that. I have been on and off going for a decade and inspite its faults, there's really nothing like it (anymore at least) in London. Of course I have to say that currently it is nowhere nearly as good as it was in its LMP haydays, but that would be a tall order. There was lots of chemistry back then between the girls and the punters were also much more ... fun (?) is the right word? Regardless, some of the old LMP parties are my fondest memories in life (and I have had plenty).

Nowadays, they have certainly improved as of late. The girls make more effort and are more pleasant and M is supervising properly again. It does depend on the rota, but the few times that I've been the last year have been decent.

[BigBoi1955]

I do hope they'll start the Saturday parties again as that usually is the only day I can attend.

[smiths]

It has certainly improved over the slump and state that it was a year or so ago and the preceeding one to that. I have been on and off going for a decade and inspite its faults, there's really nothing like it (anymore at least) in London. Of course I have to say that currently it is nowhere nearly as good as it was in its LMP haydays, but that would be a tall order. There was lots of chemistry back then between the girls and the punters were also much more ... fun (?) is the right word? Regardless, some of the old LMP parties are my fondest memories in life (and I have had plenty).

Nowadays, they have certainly improved as of late. The girls make more effort and are more pleasant and M is supervising properly again. It does depend on the rota, but the few times that I've been the last year have been decent.

In part you and other punters interested in TPC can thank the pressure some of us on UKP put on TPC to improve when it was going down the shitter, not that the TPC touts ever admitted it was. Now we have got rid of the main TPC mouthpiece VT thanks to admin, banned for taking bribes off pimps I hope we will get genuine reviews and feedback about TPC from now on. Plus 9 or 10 other posters linked to TPC were banned by admin, purging UKP of those touts and other assorted cunts.

I disagree its a tall order to be as good as LMP at Lancaster Gate, they are charging the same as LMP did at its end so it should be as good as LMP in my view. I wouldn't accept less which is why I haven't been to TPC, 2 less WGs per party than LMP but costs the same, no thanks. My LMP memories from Lancaster Gate are some of my best ever in punting. For me its a crying shame TPC isn't at that standard but as long as it keeps up offering punters a good service its good to hear. If they slip back it WILL get on here and the criticism will start again.

[poulen]

In part you and other punters interested in TPC can thank the pressure some of us on UKP put on TPC to improve when it was going down the shitter

Yes, I am aware! Been reading in here for a while so I got glimpses of these discussions. It was indeed shit for at least two years at TPC. It has improved a lot now for sure.

I disagree its a tall order to be as good as LMP at Lancaster Gate, they are charging the same as LMP did at its end so it should be as good as LMP in my view. I wouldn't accept less which is why I haven't been to TPC, 2 less WGs per party than LMP but costs the same, no thanks. My LMP memories from Lancaster Gate are some of my best ever in punting. For me its a crying shame TPC isn't at that standard but as long as it keeps up offering punters a good service its good to hear. If they slip back it WILL get on here and the criticism will start again.

Yes, fair enough, they could get it back to the awesome times of the lancaster gate days, but this requires better girls I believe, in terms of attitude. And maybe looks - my biggest disappointment the last few years is, to put it a bit bluntly, the lack of fitness in (some of) the girls' appearance.

[samtor]

I've been going to LMP/TPC for over 10 years.  I haven't seen the huge variations from then to now that I read about here.  The parties still have mostly a 2:1 ratio and a chance to have all kinds of sex with 4-6 girls (some enthusiastic and some more passive, some super hot and some more ordinary) in a 2 hours period for about the price of hour with a single mid-range SP on AW.  Some venues were better than others, but pretty much a a few beds in a couple of bed rooms.  Sometimes if the turnout is lower or people drift away toward the end of the party, I get more 1:1 interaction (and even the 2 girls on 1 which sounds great, but can exhaust you).

The August party I went to was 4 girls with 4 guys and 2 guys left early (OMG the scenarios I indulged in that day).  Last week, I went to a party with 6 girls and 12 guys (and all the guys stayed to the end).  That party was virtually non-stop spit-roasting.

A few things are different.  The parties are smaller.  There used to be 6 even 7 girls as well as holiday parties that had over a dozen.  Now the average is 4-5 and the special parties are rarer.  Emma's not doing hot food any more...but I'm not really coming to eat (food that is).  Another thing that has changed is the punters themselves.  Back "in the day", most punters were there for a frolicking, erotic party.  Now, the majority of punters are there for a cheaper cost-per-head punt.  The problem with them is that they don't follow any of the standard party protocol.  For example, they will hog a favourite girl for a half hour just letting her suck him till she gets lockjaw (party protocol is that you move on or at least change positions after about 10 minutes).  But mostly the new crowd of customers doesn't have the same banter and demeanor which affects the girls and the other guests.

The parties vary, the years change, but I still can't find anything close to the erotic experience (including other parties in town all of which I have tried) of multiple high quality girls, non-stop action and extreme voyeurism as TPC.

[smiths]

Yes, I am aware! Been reading in here for a while so I got glimpses of these discussions. It was indeed shit for at least two years at TPC. It has improved a lot now for sure.

Yes, fair enough, they could get it back to the awesome times of the lancaster gate days, but this requires better girls I believe, in terms of attitude. And maybe looks - my biggest disappointment the last few years is, to put it a bit bluntly, the lack of fitness in (some of) the girls' appearance.

Getting better WGs is down to Em of course, that's her job, she managed when it was LMP so should be able to manage now. The point is she is charging the same £160 for 2 hours that LMP did at its end, she should be ensuring she has only good WGs like most I punted with at LMP were. And any that weren't got the elbow sharpish as I recall.

TPC like LMP is a premium priced party, for that I would expect only good WGs who were lookers, the problem on here is some punters just say there is nothing better than TPC so put up with the reduced standards while still paying a premium price. Obviously that's up to them. The main thing is the standard appears to have improved that must be offered to every punter, after all they all pay the same. I for one will castigate TPC if the standard slips, irrespective of what the usual suspects on here think. Punters who are nowhere to be seen when TPC gets criticised on here or moan and groan about it. I had a couple of total moronic dickheads say how boring it was that I was challenging VT, I knew 100% what he was. I was proved right and will do so again if another poster or posters like him appear trying to undermine UKP, a punters forum NOT a pimps appreciation forum.

As I say hopefully TPC will continue to improve and offer ALL punters a good service.

[smiths]

I've been going to LMP/TPC for over 10 years.  I haven't seen the huge variations from then to now that I read about here.  The parties still have mostly a 2:1 ratio and a chance to have all kinds of sex with 4-6 girls (some enthusiastic and some more passive, some super hot and some more ordinary) in a 2 hours period for about the price of hour with a single mid-range SP on AW.  Some venues were better than others, but pretty much a a few beds in a couple of bed rooms.  Sometimes if the turnout is lower or people drift away toward the end of the party, I get more 1:1 interaction (and even the 2 girls on 1 which sounds great, but can exhaust you).

The August party I went to was 4 girls with 4 guys and 2 guys left early (OMG the scenarios I indulged in that day).  Last week, I went to a party with 6 girls and 12 guys (and all the guys stayed to the end).  That party was virtually non-stop spit-roasting.

A few things are different.  The parties are smaller.  There used to be 6 even 7 girls as well as holiday parties that had over a dozen.  Now the average is 4-5 and the special parties are rarer.  Emma's not doing hot food any more...but I'm not really coming to eat (food that is).  Another thing that has changed is the punters themselves.  Back "in the day", most punters were there for a frolicking, erotic party.  Now, the majority of punters are there for a cheaper cost-per-head punt.  The problem with them is that they don't follow any of the standard party protocol.  For example, they will hog a favourite girl for a half hour just letting her suck him till she gets lockjaw (party protocol is that you move on or at least change positions after about 10 minutes).  But mostly the new crowd of customers doesn't have the same banter and demeanor which affects the girls and the other guests.

The parties vary, the years change, but I still can't find anything close to the erotic experience (including other parties in town all of which I have tried) of multiple high quality girls, non-stop action and extreme voyeurism as TPC.

The hogging used to occur with some when it was LMP but Em used to move the hoggers on to another WG, this is what she is there to do, be pro-active which she was in LMP days, she should be ensuring there isn't any hogging at TPC and no excuse for not doing so in my opinion. Hardly any party I went to back then, GP Parties, LAPC, Desire, Limelight gave a shit about hoggers. Ems presence in the playrooms made a massive difference in ensuring the hogging was kept to a minimum. Only Sacred Rose also did a bit of the same when Kayley was running them.

[samtor]

The hogging used to occur with some when it was LMP but Em used to move the hoggers on to another WG, this is what she is there to do, be pro-active which she was in LMP days, she should be ensuring there isn't any hogging at TPC and no excuse for not doing so in my opinion. Ems presence in the playrooms made a massive difference in ensuring the hogging was kept to a minimum.

Em still gets involved.  She comes into the playrooms a few times during the party as she always has.  Also, she's become savvy about giving a quiet word to one of the veteran girls and have the girls urge the moving along ("come to me big boy").  When it was 1 or 2 guys out of 12 in the old days, it was quite easy to contain that way.  When it is 5 guys out of 8, it is much harder.  And even if she does manage to stem the hogging, she still can't do anything about the damper that the budget-seeking hoggers bring to the party vibe.   

[trustme217]

Sorry for asking a dumb question.. but is it a open room or do you get a private room for the action?

[smiths]

Em still gets involved.  She comes into the playrooms a few times during the party as she always has.  Also, she's become savvy about giving a quiet word to one of the veteran girls and have the girls urge the moving along ("come to me big boy").  When it was 1 or 2 guys out of 12 in the old days, it was quite easy to contain that way.  When it is 5 guys out of 8, it is much harder.  And even if she does manage to stem the hogging, she still can't do anything about the damper that the budget-seeking hoggers bring to the party vibe.   

I am glad to hear she is about in and out of the playrooms, she is the one running the party so its down to her to sort hoggers out. The party vibe is a different point, never a problem when I went to LMP but it has been at some other party providers. LAPC at the pimps place near Hatton Garden was never known for its great party vibe but then John the pimp who ran it had about as much personality as a wet fish.

[samtor]

Sorry for asking a dumb question.. but is it a open room or do you get a private room for the action?

No, no private rooms.  All open.  Two primary rooms - one with a double bed and one with a double bed and a sofa.  Both connected with an open doorway (so you can see from one room to the other easily).  Usually, 2 girls on each bed and anywhere from 1 to 4 guys enjoying them.

[jeezyuk]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=227287.msg2313588#msg2313588

This review seems to suggest some things have been stripped to the bare bones. Lack of alcohol and crap food.

I know we just there to fuck but at the Hyde Park Mansions, venue was top class, food was decent, beer and wine flowed and the space was excellent.

I used to be a regular, always consider this a backup plan but finding a lot more vfm doing my own thing with indie’s atm.

Some good recent reviews of the girls and sex service though so all in all still OK at TPC.

[trustme217]

No, no private rooms.  All open.  Two primary rooms - one with a double bed and one with a double bed and a sofa.  Both connected with an open doorway (so you can see from one room to the other easily).  Usually, 2 girls on each bed and anywhere from 1 to 4 guys enjoying them.

Thank you.. will give it a go soon and review. Little nervous though

[Heph]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=227287.msg2313588#msg2313588

This review seems to suggest some things have been stripped to the bare bones. Lack of alcohol and crap food.

I know we just there to fuck but at the Hyde Park Mansions, venue was top class, food was decent, beer and wine flowed and the space was excellent.

I used to be a regular, always consider this a backup plan but finding a lot more vfm doing my own thing with indie’s atm.

Which year was this / what was the final year of LMP?

[BigBoi1955]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=227287.msg2313588#msg2313588

This review seems to suggest some things have been stripped to the bare bones. Lack of alcohol and crap food.

I know we just there to fuck but at the Hyde Park Mansions, venue was top class, food was decent, beer and wine flowed and the space was excellent.

I used to be a regular, always consider this a backup plan but finding a lot more vfm doing my own thing with indie’s atm.

Some good recent reviews of the girls and sex service though so all in all still OK at TPC.

For a two hour party I'm not looking for lots of wine, beer and food so as long as the girls and service are to a good standard then I'm going to be happy.

Of course it would be nice to have everything and for the price to be cheaper but you do have to remember this is a business and unless the organisers can make a profit they won't keep doing it. For the party being reviewed there were five girls and six men at its height and a period with only 3 men and 5 girls. With those ratios I know that my priority would not be on the food and drink supply.

[jeezyuk]

For a two hour party I'm not looking for lots of wine, beer and food so as long as the girls and service are to a good standard then I'm going to be happy.

Of course it would be nice to have everything and for the price to be cheaper but you do have to remember this is a business and unless the organisers can make a profit they won't keep doing it. For the party being reviewed there were five girls and six men at its height and a period with only 3 men and 5 girls. With those ratios I know that my priority would not be on the food and drink supply.

It’s not about the food/drink, it’s just about maintaining par offering to what was delivered in the past. Alcohol does take the edge off for me personally.